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|content=@delbel156 Iām trying to keep this channel open. | |||
The Portal is a communal resource. It reappears when you both need it and are prepared to fight for it. I cannot answer the interpersonal attacks myself as a public figure. Think about it a bit: Itās not haters.Ā Itās a bit more serious.š | |||
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|content=Iām happy to answer a few. | |||
Itāll be fewer than Iād like. I was invited to participate in the press conference about to start, but that project is totally separate, so I politely declined the gracious offer of my hosts, as I came here as *unaffiliated* observer. | |||
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|content=If youāre not interested in my responses, or feel I owe you total personal disclosure, I politely decline in advance and suggest you unfollow. Any abuse of good will ends in a block. Those are my rules so that I can say all I might to those genuinely interested. Fair? Letās go! | |||
|timestamp=11:52 AM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@DasWoolf I was not expecting to speak. The guest of honor, Lue Elizondo, became unavailable at the last minute. I was asked to step in. As a courtesy I agreed, and shared some ideas that represent no one but myself as a private US citizen working with publicly available info. Specifics? | |||
|timestamp=11:57 AM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@andyinberlin I am not as sure as you are that this what is going on. Itās a matryoshka problem. Iām convinced that many people you think of as insiders are not really inside enough. The UAP/UFO community leaps to MANY conclusions as if this is fun. This is not fun if you are serious about it. | |||
|timestamp=12:02 PM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@ALean_Skye I donāt think people understand disclosure properly. Consider layers: | |||
A) The basic *claimed* phenomena.</br> | |||
B) Associate phenomena.</br> | |||
C) Cover up of the above.</br> | |||
D) People in the know living a lie.</br> | |||
E) Outsiders being destroyed to keep secrets.</br> | |||
F) Outsiders being forced to live lies. | |||
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|content=@ALean_Skye Disclosure likely has to do with F) as much as anything. No matter what A) Turns out to be. Which I still donāt really know. If you are fighting for disclosure, donāt over focus on whether we are prepared for A). | |||
Iām not inflating my level of knowledge here. I still donāt know. | |||
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|content=@andyinberlin I see a lot of people struggling under a heavy weight. People take their NDAs very seriously. | |||
|timestamp=12:11 PM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@dkb003 Official panels tend to be tightly controlled in advance through use of insiders. Occasionally that screws up and you get a Jeff Sachs (Lancet) or a Richard Feynman/Gen Kutyna (Challenger). Galileo Project is an outsider project. Prefer the latter. | |||
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|content=@DasWoolf Technology is the entry point *if* recovered craft are real. Iāve seen no such proof. None. | |||
But it is *psychotic* not to have Particle Theorists, General Relativists and Differential Geometers all over our US effort. I have yet to meet one in two years. Makes me very suspicious. | |||
|timestamp=12:18 PM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@DasWoolf One thought is that it is very hard to make up ghost stories about how Alcubierre Drives, Wormholes, Time Dilation, etc REALISTICALLY account for this with actual specialists. | |||
I mean, I get it. But itās nonsense. This is not about tech. Itās about post-GR/SM physics or a psyop. | |||
|timestamp=12:22 PM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@DasWoolf It could sorta kinda maybe be a cover story for advanced tech. But I canāt get that to make sense yet. Maybe my failure of imagination. | |||
|timestamp=12:23 PM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@delbel156 If others have gone beyond GR/SM to navigate/settle the cosmos, I donāt think they would let us leave this solar system with the BS we see in Russia/Ukraine, Wuhan etc. We look like a crazy species about to unlock the source code. Itās unbelievable. We look like savage fools. | |||
|timestamp=12:28 PM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@delbel156 Just got warned. You want to know why I donāt tweet? Sorry all. Write to Twitter. Iām out. https://t.co/8aR5F0juYf | |||
|timestamp=12:30 PM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@delbel156 This account is throttled beyond belief. Check the graph over time. Check the level of reputational attack. Check the DOJ ready to block Elon. Go review portal Episode 21. The level of narrative control is through the roof. Wake up. Look at the patterns. All FUD. All suppression. https://t.co/949t7DAPsS | |||
|timestamp=12:33 PM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|timestamp=12:41 PM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@ben_koski Hope that helped clear things up. I was never meant to speak at this conference. Keep that in mind. Goodnight. | |||
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|content=Willing to answer a few more Tweets on the San Marino UAP conference where I unexpectedly was asked to fill in for @LueElizondo. Iām likely to get throttled & harassed yet again. When and if the beloved Twitter nanny algorithm starts again, Iāll call it a night here in Rome. | |||
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|content=Same rules as before. No changes on my part. Iām doing this only because I am not trying to hide anything that I am in a reasonable position to share and many of you want to know what the heck is going on as much as I do. But there are limits. Such is life. | |||
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|timestamp=11:21 PM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@McLuhanStates @LueElizondo There is a lot of loose talk about dimensionality. Keep in mind that I have zero direct evidence of the phenomena. So this is wildly premature. | |||
My interest here is that GU replaces one manifold with two in a bundle structure and adds BOTH temporal and spatial dimensions. | |||
|timestamp=11:24 PM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@McLuhanStates @LueElizondo As the author of GU, I still donāt know how to think in multiple temporal dimensions. The math is quite exotic. But I at least know through GU that the math can FORCE us to confront ultra hyperbolic PDE. It would change everything we know if unscreened. No simple Hamiltonian. | |||
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|content=@McLuhanStates @LueElizondo I wish people would stop talking about higher dimensional beings though. If GU is on point, then we are also higher dimensional beings. So I could do without Exoticism. If this is in any way real, we should reserve speech for precise meanings. And I donāt know if it is real. Yet. | |||
|timestamp=11:31 PM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@prowl4uap @LueElizondo Here goes. I still feel like this FEELS like bullshit. Particularly the number of explicit depictions of Tetrapod hominid like beings. | |||
But the truckloads of indirect evidence suggests NHI. I just donāt have a way of squaring this. And the āexperiencersā are breaking my heart. | |||
|timestamp=11:35 PM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@prowl4uap @LueElizondo I wasnāt prepared for this part to be honest. Iāve met so many voices whoās lives were taken over by an experience that they seemingly didnāt want. People breaking down. As far from attention seeking as you can imagine with no theater background. Itās pretty hard to explain away. | |||
|timestamp=11:37 PM Ā· Oct 24, 2022 | |||
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|content=@prowl4uap @LueElizondo Why would ordinary folks ruin their lives like this? No money in it. No desire for fame. No other signs of shifted reality. So I donāt know what to say. | |||
The absence of direct evidence screams BS. The indirect evidence screams some wildly new thing in town. And Iām too dumb here. | |||
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|content=@mikedduffey @LueElizondo Donāt know. Less if not asked to do something official. I hate this topic. Itās an infinite conundrum. Always a new hint. Never just some actual solid trustworthy data. | |||
Iāve had quite enough space opera and national security runaround. Letās get to the meal. Too many appetizers. | |||
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|content=@montanacasey @LueElizondo Donāt know who that is. I see the name around. But Iām not really in this space. Itās embarrassing. But Iām not a ufologist. And there is so much ufology that Iām not up on this stuff. My fault. | |||
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|content=@smbodie3 @LueElizondo People were very kind. Apparently I did some wrong things on stage. But a condition of taking this on the night before was that I would be me. They decided this is real. I donāt have that data. I am still spread over real / not real until I see something super clear & concrete. | |||
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|content=@twitpucker @LueElizondo Iād start with academic freedom and civility. There is more than enough here to DEMAND answers. This belongs to science as much as it does to NatSec. We donāt need a Fauci for UAP. We need physics and math to begin. Biology if warranted. Letās just be serious if it is a threat. | |||
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|content=@twitpucker @LueElizondo The gigglers & shamers & accusers need to get a pacifier and a juice box for a time out. We gave out too many PhDs to mediocre souls. Itās a disaster. Itās nuts that theyāre STILL here to inhibit consideration of this after all the claims by USG. | |||
Too much inclusion of trolls. | |||
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|content=@BostonsBuddha @twitpucker @LueElizondo It appears to be titrated. Which I dislike. At some point foreplay made sense. That was a while ago. Enough. | |||
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|content=@StevenBelmont4 @LueElizondo Weāre now waiting for a cataclysmic event to arrive in a Poisson process. We arenāt getting it. Biden & Putin & Xi & Kim & Khamenei & Zelensky are not getting where we are. Itās like theyāre throwing a rave on a life boat surrounded by oceanic whitetips. Who are these people? | |||
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|content=@StevenBelmont4 @LueElizondo We have all our eggs in this basket and we are focused on Eastern Ukraine & Chips in Taiwan like the world didnāt change last century forever? Iām totally lost. I donāt want to be here for the Poisson process. I want to be somewhere with an atmosphere and real distance from this. | |||
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|content=@RGoddardishere @LueElizondo Would prefer not to. I need data and an end to NatSec paternalism. This is either serious or it isnāt. If it isnāt, stop wasting time. If it is, you need the physicists and geometers at a minimum. Where are they?? | |||
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|content=@codingfodder @LueElizondo Read @notevenwrongās excerpts of the David E Kaplan interview. We need to clean house to revitalize physics as if our lives depend on its progress. Anyone who wants to whine about taxpayer dollars for theoretical physics gets thrown out of the planning discussion. So destructive. | |||
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|content=@UAPDAO @LueElizondo Yesā¦but itās like space opera. Lots of claims. Iād like to see something. Isnāt it a bit weird to hear these super detailed stories with hard NO EVIDENCE this even happened? | |||
Itās embarrassing frankly. Like Stag-o-Lee stories around a campfire. Only from serious people. | |||
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|content=@galacticfuton Been going on for too long. š¤·āāļø | |||
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|content=@207isHeaven Iām not read in anywhere. Not an insider unless I have to become one. | |||
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|content=@SergheiIancenco @McLuhanStates @LueElizondo Thereās an operation called āPull Backā in differential topology. Itās akin to pulling back data from a record album. You donāt hear the album all at once even though the data is all there at once. Weād be pullbacks into 4D from 14D w/ both 4D & 14D existence. Bit of a mind flip. | |||
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|content=@nickthadude_86 @LueElizondo Many. Of either Material vehicles or spoofing and disinformation. It feels like a spoof that is too big for anyone or any group to pull off. Like way too big. So I think itās probably real. Just canāt believe it has no solid evidence. I donāt get how this is possible. | |||
|timestamp=12:21 AM Ā· Oct 25, 2022 | |||
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|content=@TheCertainT @Klupperz Let me answer this. I donāt think we are alone in the universe. So a lot rests on GR being effectively a moat making travel so cumbersome as to be not worth attempting. If thatās wrong; itās pretty arrogant to think we are alone in the solar system. Post-GR changes a lot of odds. | |||
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|content=@TheCertainT @Klupperz I promise you India would keep the North Sentinelese from leaving and causing trouble if the Islanders figured out Science and Fusion Wepons before they figured out how to escape and build vehicles to escape their island. Think about it. | |||
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|content=@lololmaoha @LueElizondo Magic spoon has weird mouth feel. But itās okay. | |||
|timestamp=12:28 AM Ā· Oct 25, 2022 | |||
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|content=@Intriguing_Post @LueElizondo Tetrapods are the least interesting beings. Because then itās likely just earth life or we were seeded from them. Tells us little about Post-GR escape. Post-GR is everything to me. Can we travel the cosmos? Dunno. | |||
āOur home is in the stars or not at all.ā | |||
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|timestamp=12:32 AM Ā· Oct 25, 2022 | |||
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|content=@207isHeaven No. | |||
|timestamp=12:40 AM Ā· Oct 25, 2022 | |||
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|content=@kerskine They are running out of road. So it is way up. People are fed up. | |||
|timestamp=12:42 AM Ā· Oct 25, 2022 | |||
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|content=@YungJozuz Yes. | |||
|timestamp=12:43 AM Ā· Oct 25, 2022 | |||
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|content=@ben83724 Canāt answer. | |||
|timestamp=12:43 AM Ā· Oct 25, 2022 | |||
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|content=@DannyDeck68 There was a lot of disinformation around the Golden Age of GR. Itās mostly in the public domain. But it requires piecing together. | |||
|timestamp=12:44 AM Ā· Oct 25, 2022 | |||
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|content=@ben_koski Last Question of the Night: where did the top mathematicians and physicists go after the Mansfield amendment(s)? How can you have UAP where I am the only voice loudly pointing out that Real Alien Vehicles would like require new physical law. We can account for every relevant PhD. | |||
|timestamp=12:48 AM Ā· Oct 25, 2022 | |||
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|content=@ben_koski Where are the physicists and Geometers? Hint hint. | |||
If they are not out here, itās likely all BS. If they are here, they are hidden in plain sight. There just arenāt that many of us. Technology wonāt work if you donāt know the relevant science. Thatās not engineering or MatSci. | |||
|timestamp=12:52 AM Ā· Oct 25, 2022 | |||
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|content=@ben_koski Stop dreaming about FTL. Or element 115. Or Alcubierre GR. Or electogravitics. Itās bizarre that we discuss this so much. | |||
First Ask: where are our relevant experts? Imagine you want the top 25 GR/SM/DiffGeometers for a matter of national security? Put together that list. | |||
|timestamp=12:55 AM Ā· Oct 25, 2022 | |||
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|content=@ben_koski If those folks arenāt out here then we are talking about a psyop or a giant government blunder endangering us all. If they ARE here, you know their names. Work backwards. Is there an NSA for UAP? If so what is its address? Come on guys. Not many speak this language. Small club. | |||
|timestamp=12:58 AM Ā· Oct 25, 2022 | |||
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|content=@ben_koski What happened with the Mansfield amendment & why does no one discuss this? We used to have our top people on this but we called it something else. Where did it go? Either it ended or it didnāt. Itās a tiny world. Just donāt get all Qanon. Itās a big story: Treat it w/ respect.š | |||
|timestamp=1:01 AM Ā· Oct 25, 2022 | |||
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|content=@nickpopemod I say exactly the same. But, to be fair, the skeptics can point to zero incontrovertible evidence (at least so far as I am aware)ā¦Which is a big deal in my book. The soft evidence is not in their favor. The absence of hard evidence *available to citizens & scientists* is. š¤·āāļø | |||
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|content=Let me say two things. | |||
A) I have always believed that almost all Unidentified Flying Objects are just that: something unremarkable that is not identified. | |||
B) That has nothing to do with the issue of the remainder. It takes no more than a *single* confirmed inexplicable event. | |||
|timestamp=1:18 AM Ā· Oct 29, 2022 | |||
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|content=Beyond that, as I have told you, I am sure that I am being used by at least some of those who have come to talk to me. But I cannot come up with any explanation for some of the representations made to me. And I get more fed up by the day with USG playing āLucy & the footballā. | |||
|timestamp=1:18 AM Ā· Oct 29, 2022 | |||
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|content=National Security isnāt license to gaslight & ruin the lives of ordinary folks who arenāt participating in IC games. Itās cruel, abusive & totally UnAmerican. Come up with better cover if you need it. But between bioweapons/UAP gaslighting, youāre playing god. And youāre not him. | |||
|timestamp=1:18 AM Ā· Oct 29, 2022 | |||
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|content=Shabbat Shalom everyone. Have a great weekend. | |||
|timestamp=1:18 AM Ā· Oct 29, 2022 | |||
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|content=@Methedra And often forced to speak as if one voice. Donāt forget that part. | |||
|timestamp=10:33 AM Ā· Oct 29, 2022 | |||
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|content=@CarpathianMts Happy to NEVER mention UFO/UAP ever again and work quietly. Totally up to what the interested community wants. I hate this topic. I just think it is clear that it appears to be criticallyĀ important. Even if it is a USG headfake. | |||
|timestamp=10:36 AM Ā· Oct 29, 2022 | |||
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|timestamp=11:12 AM Ā· Oct 29, 2022 | |||
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|content=@UAP_LEE @dsmethurst66 Yeah. That must be it. ;-) | |||
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|content=This is an odd moment. Official Washington tells us we have lost control of airspace. But also we should not in any way freak out because it is mostly just a combination of Hypersonic enemy drones of rival powers and some ultra high performing seagulls. And some alien non-aliens. | |||
|timestamp=2:44 PM Ā· Oct 31, 2022 | |||
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|content=Which is to sayā¦we clearly have two factions in government not allowed to file separate reports. The result is total intellectual incoherence. | |||
So the whole thing comes across like the USG is having its first collective magic mushroom trip in real time. Itās so embarrassing. | |||
|timestamp=2:44 PM Ā· Oct 31, 2022 | |||
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|content=Good luck on this report. If I had to guess it will again be super interesting if unpacked and as boring as possible on the surface. But I have little confidence in my own guess. | |||
I am going to drop my interest way back if things stay like this too much longer. But letās see. š | |||
|timestamp=2:44 PM Ā· Oct 31, 2022 | |||
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|content=@528vibes Letās put it this way. I will lose interest in government disclosure as a self protective measure. This is an abusive relationship. Whose government is it? Ours? Theirs? Lockheedās? Enough. | |||
Iām playing by the rules. They arenāt. | |||
|timestamp=3:07 PM Ā· Oct 31, 2022 | |||
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|content=@seanonolennon Done. | |||
|timestamp=3:19 PM Ā· Oct 31, 2022 | |||
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|content=@IdesignsWak Deliberate misinterpretation to smear never gets old. | |||
|timestamp=4:09 PM Ā· Oct 31, 2022 | |||
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|content=@seanonolennon Letās get out of here. | |||
Miss you too. And happy belated if I didnāt call. I think I did or sent a voice message. But the days run together honestly. | |||
|timestamp=4:52 PM Ā· Oct 31, 2022 | |||
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|content=@MickWest Ya know, it kinda did Mick. It speaks with many voices. And some of those heads said stuff. | |||
I really donāt get why we are often apart. We agree there is no incontrovertible concrete data in the public domain. And I never mention those grainy videos because they donāt impress me. | |||
|timestamp=8:03 PM Ā· Oct 31, 2022 | |||
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|content=@MickWest Anytime you can clear up a bird or a weather ballon, or flares or a jet with a funny reflection, I am thrilled. | |||
Iām really grateful for that part of what you have contributed. So thank you. | |||
But the other part, leaves me feeling like I just donāt get something. | |||
Take care. | |||
|timestamp=8:06 PM Ā· Oct 31, 2022 | |||
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|timestamp=8:08 PM Ā· Oct 31, 2022 | |||
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|content=This isnāt 18th century France. Just a thought. | |||
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|content=One of the questions about UFOs that needs to be asked, and that I donāt hear much about, is: āHas the US government built fake UFOs?ā | |||
UFO people are so focused on whether there are real UFOs that they donāt push hard enough on this question. | |||
Allow me to share a thought or two. https://t.co/B1FXSmb9Z3 | |||
|timestamp=4:13 PM Ā· Nov 10, 2022 | |||
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|content=When I first realized I was totally wrong about UFO/UAP, I was shocked by how many folks have very similar stories about recovered crashes of very similar advanced vehicles. | |||
It was mind blowing in 2 ways. | |||
A) We have real crashed vehicles. | |||
And/Or | |||
B) We built fake alien vehicles. https://t.co/4sOOXDtPoW | |||
|timestamp=4:13 PM Ā· Nov 10, 2022 | |||
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|content=At this point Iām reasonably sure there are things that look like cool alien vehicle in some hangers. But I also grew up near Hollywood and remember super cool looking fake space cars visible off the Hollywood freeway. | |||
So: does anyone have stories of building fake UFOs for USG? https://t.co/3JuMmOwFRZ | |||
|timestamp=4:13 PM Ā· Nov 10, 2022 | |||
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|content=As you likely guessed, all the photos in this thread are fake military equipment. The airbase is totally fake. The dummy tanks are often inflated on the battlefield. The fake tank pieces are bolted on to real cars. | |||
Q: Did we build fake UFOs in places like Wright-Patterson AFB? https://t.co/VRD9vroHdm | |||
|timestamp=4:13 PM Ā· Nov 10, 2022 | |||
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|content=After studying this issue for 2yrs, Iām pretty convinced that there ARE wild looking vehicles in secret high security locations. But I also find NO SIGN OF OUR TOP PHYSICISTS. That is a huge red flag. If you had fake UFOs, you would have a puzzle for physics: What is the science? | |||
|timestamp=4:13 PM Ā· Nov 10, 2022 | |||
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|content=A true recovered interstellar craft would be like LHC or LIGO data: potential scientific data for physics beyond the Standard Model and General Relativity. | |||
But if the crafts are fake, you would be crazy to let the A-team physicists near them. It would blow up in your face. | |||
|timestamp=4:13 PM Ā· Nov 10, 2022 | |||
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|content=So my ignorant question is this: are there stories of building fake UFOs for sites in Nevada? Ohio? Are there fake retrieval teams? To what extent does faking military equipment spill into faking a UFOgasm for decades? | |||
Because there are too many very similar craft stories. https://t.co/CfXOh0yXdW | |||
|timestamp=4:13 PM Ā· Nov 10, 2022 | |||
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|content=So, at this point, the stories of craft kept at secret locations is most likely to be true in my opinion.Ā But it is also true that all the top physics talent that was working only semi-covertly on suspicious gravity projects left by the early 1970s. So any craft may be faked. | |||
|timestamp=4:13 PM Ā· Nov 10, 2022 | |||
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|content=Either way, itās a big deal. Everything changed in the early 70s. Itās impossible to say how much. The moment the Mansfield amendment came in, physics began to stagnate. And āQuantum Gravityā destroyed our culture of science. We donāt even whisper about its āAnti-Gravityā origin. | |||
|timestamp=4:13 PM Ā· Nov 10, 2022 | |||
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|content=So to sum up: there do *appear* to be craft. But advanced armies all build dummy weapons. | |||
Q1: Do we have any Fakes? | |||
Q2: Do we have only Fakes? | |||
Q3: Why do we talk almostĀ *exclusively* about Technology and not new Post-GR/SM science if there are *any* real interstellar craft? | |||
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|timestamp=4:13 PM Ā· Nov 10, 2022 | |||
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|content=Note Added: many readers are making wild inferences about me talking aboutĀ flying fakes. I was very clear that this was about apparent crafts on the ground and in Hangars in Nevada, Ohio & elsewhere. | |||
Wild or bad inference patterns will get you blocked. I donāt have time. Thx. | |||
|timestamp=5:16 PM Ā· Nov 10, 2022 | |||
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|content=Uh. Iām kind of coming to the end of my patience w/ this line of thinking. | |||
PhD Scientists arenāt the āhelp.ā We are the backbone. And, honestly, I would never treat ANY service people this way! The security risks of embittering scientists by treating them like servants is nuts. | |||
|timestamp=6:44 PM Ā· Nov 10, 2022 | |||
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|content=@Deepneuron @SBF_FTX I canāt explain curvature tensor to 5 year olds. I admit I donāt even understand the rule of āif you canāt explain it simply you donāt understand it.ā It seems totally wrong to me! Oh well. | |||
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|content=I donāt think there is any history of my ever commenting on @SBF_FTX. | |||
It is because I never deeply understood what was going on when it was explained to me. Iām not going to lie: I felt dumb. | |||
[[Morals|Moral]]: be very careful celebrating success that you donāt understand for its own sake. | |||
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|content=2) I'm really sorry, again, that we ended up here. | |||
Hopefully things can find a way to recover.Ā Hopefully this can bring some amount of transparency, trust, and governance to them. | |||
Ultimately hopefully it can be better for customers. | |||
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|content=Other things that made/make me feel dumb: | |||
Bernie Madoffās Returns</br> | |||
COVID origin questions = Racism</br> | |||
Fauci</br> | |||
Hilaryās Inevitability</br> | |||
[[Quantum Gravity]]</br> | |||
[[Jeffrey Epstein|Jeffrey Epsteinās CCY trading Claims]]</br> | |||
[[CPI|CPI Construction]]</br> | |||
[[UAP|UFO/UAP]]</br> | |||
Chinese Graduate Students in STEM</br> | |||
Open Borders</br> | |||
Defund The Police</br> | |||
DEI</br> | |||
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|content=@TOEwithCurt I think that there is a lot more deliberate mis/disinformation right now and a modest increase in the level of information. So far as I can make out, they seem related. Itās as if as soon as more needles appear, haystacks arrive that make them hard to find. | |||
Iām pretty annoyed. | |||
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|content=@TOEwithCurt As to intuitionā¦.we donāt and shouldnāt have much. | |||
Hard UFO/UAP data is supposed to be all about the unprecedented. Disinformation and superstition is all well precedented. So intuition should say itās all BS. The whole thing comes down to hard data. | |||
Intuition here is useless. | |||
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As I said before, I have no idea what to make of the UAP shift of our government. But I do know that this period is unlike *any* other epoch. And there are many *different* unprecedented things that could happen so close to the source code as we have been for 50 to 75 years.
The number of higher credibility officials or former officials choosing to walk right up to, yet generally not over, the line of confirming alien encounters via UAP has changed markedly.
I have always avoided UFO discussion. This makes that impossible:
At this point, the story I am tracking isnāt āLittle Green Menā. It is āOfficials inexplicably change course on UFO narrativeā.
Also, the story about āTechnology never before seen.ā Would make more sense with āTechnologyā replaced by āPhysicsā.
High level government officials have given UAPs credibility, but it's still pretty hard for an outsider to analyze the evidence objectively. It's all video footage and testimony. We need much stronger evidence to form any real opinion on UFOs being extraterrestrial or not.
The US/Europe seriously diverted attention from doing real theoretical physics almost 40 years ago in 1984 to explore physics inspired mathematics. Did China/Iran/Russia/Israel? I donāt know.
But I can tell you this: no one in government is appropriately focused on new physics.
Imagine in 1900 some ācrankā told you about thermonuclear weapons. Would you listen or laugh? Well, theyād be only 5 decades away with no aliens necessary. And powered flight hadnāt happened yet!
Thatās how powerful a ānew physicsā advantage is. Weāre behaving like lunatics.
Any time ANYONE at least 1/2-way viable says something weird or kooky or interesting (Wolfram, Lisi, etc.) the cost of a Department of Energy 1hr phone call is negligible. Almost no one with that background says anything like this. Maybe less than 1 such PhD ālunaticā per year.
Do I think Wolfram, Lisi, Kaku, Smolin, Klee Irwin, Sarfatti, Woit/Penrose etc are right or on the doorstep of new physics? No! But Itās also totally irrelevant to the security risk.
It wouldnāt matter to me at all. I would check in with all of them: the cost is zero. The risk?
The thing I like least about Geometric Unity is not being able to know what it would unlock if true, any more than Einstein and Bohr understood Lise Meitner, Stan Ulam & Edward Tellerās weaponization of New Physics.
We are talking about UFOs while not worrying about New Physics.
Think about the g-2 muon anomaly. Have you heard as much about that suggesting the possibility of New Physics from high precision (rather than high energy) as you have about the TicTac UAP?
Similarly, how often do you hear about UAP technology rather than physics issues. Right??
I have no idea what to make of the change in the UAP narrative. What I can tell you with certainty is that for such an ENORMOUS change in the narrative there is no sane explanation for the DOE not to be talking new physics risks and taking every one of the few claims seriously.
As we saw over & over in the 20th century, any small change in physics can change everything almost overnight. From A-Bombs to Semiconductors.
The handful of PhD level claims are of negligible cost to investigate & dismiss compared to a single fighter jet.
DOE lost the plot.
Enough! Letās get back to UFOs and space opera so we donāt have to worry about China & Iran making a breakthrough on a white board in some lab we canāt see.
Moral: if you take UFOs seriously but not the risk of new physics, you arenāt thinking clearly.
Just think about it. š
We are being told L*ttl*-Gr**n-M*n and are being handed the vowels i and four eās by our defense department.
Only donāt say UFO...say UAP. And when we ask āSo...aliens?ā They say āThis is not consistent with the capabilities of any nation.ā
Cut the crap: https://t.co/cfDIUVvndC
No one knows how to talk about this. It isnāt our top headline.
My question is *how* is this not our top headline? Either the defense department is pranking the entire world or we have the largest dire security mystery on earth or we have contact.
All 3 would be our top story.
When our experts now talk openly about all these UFOs they talk about their ātechnologyā.
And every time they do, I replace the word ātechnologyā with the word āphysicsā for the obvious reasons. Because if non-terrestrial craft are here, physics > technology.
Imagine if these UAP were actually visitors from beyond the local solar neighborhood. You wouldnāt be focused on their technology first. Youād want to understand how they got here and if they used new physics to do so. Most importantly, youād want to know about dimension hacking.
A key issue in Geometric Unity for me is whether additional temporal & spatial degrees of freedom are accessible or shielded from manipulation. But consider what 6 additional temporal dimensions or the ability to manipulate rulers and protractors fundamentally could yield.
We are somehow no longer worried about any new physics. We are so sure it wonāt suddenly progress in an unexpected way or unlock anything new that we arenāt even paying attention to the field. After String Theory it all feels ironic.
This is potentially a *catastrophic* mistake.
Every threat against a head of state is taken seriously. Even the absurd ones. It is cheaper to dot a few āiās and cross a few ātās than to not worry about such threats.
Obviously.
UAP, Gain Of Function, New Physics, MANPADS, loose nukes, etc should be the same.
Obviously.
You can recover a surprising amount from just one simple statement: UAP, public health, standardized testing, immigration, mortgage backed securities, crypto, inflation methodology, String Theory, Aaron Swartz, Etc.
āInstitutions do not have the right to gaslight individuals.ā
In a certain sense, that is the main through-line of my politics. Any institution that gaslights an ordinary human trying to make sense of the world in a reasonable fashion is wrong to me in a particularly profound way.
Donāt know how to describe this as a political perspective.
Folk wisdom to the contrary, we are somehow mildly pregnant with UFOs.
Itās very weird. Itās ongoing titration of UFO declassifications so that we never wake up to hear āItās little green men!ā nor āWe figured out they were just seagulls covered in metallic flotsam.ā
We just get pulled farther and farther out. Like a rip-tide you donāt even notice.
Iām not saying that the UAP/UFO stuff is š½. I am saying that weāre being *told* itās š½ in a game.
The game: we present a mystery (UFOs) and then take away all but one option. If you guess *anything* but š½, we tell you it is de facto been ruled out.
Guess š½, and we shrug š¤·āāļø.
Our National and military position on UAP/UFO in restricted military airspace makes no sense to me.
As in zero. Maybe I just donāt get it but I really really donāt get it. Can anyone make this make sense? Why is the leadership of the US scientific community totally absent?
The US isnāt explaining or keeping secrets. We arenāt debunking. We arenāt defending ourselves. We arenāt interested as a nation or even particularly curious. We arenāt outraged. We do giggle a bit. We arenāt debating. We arenāt excited.
We are sleepwalking. As usual. Even here.
UFO / UAP Poll:
Note: if you think this is Atlantis or future humans or Orca technology, choose āalienā to this earth. There just werenāt enough characters allowed. Sorry.
On UFO/UAP: note the absence of top physicists. Or scientists more generally. Or academicians more generally than that.
Any science fiction author would know to get our leading physicists, geometers, evolutionary biologists, linguists on this if itās real. Ok, so where are they?
There has been a tiny response. Mostly we see military, ex-military and civilians UFO community commenting.
The number of top relevant academicians commenting is near zero. This is very odd because we know from the Manhattan project that you need to tap your academics. Thoughts?
The UAP data is all of ours. Not the militaryās exclusively.
It is scientific data. It is physics data.
We need to get it to our physicists. Not just our aerospace companies & defense contractors.
The Institute for advanced study, fully informed, should be leading discussion.
@the_IAS > @LockheedMartin
This is ridiculous.
Not releasing claimed (remarkable) data and expecting scientists comment is a recipe for destroying scientific credibility.
The Military destroyed lives of those who claimed to have seen what leaked.
I demand our data from the defense department. Demand yours as well.
- UAP #UFO
25000 of you answered. Almost 3 in 4 of you believe either that UFOs are a deliberate fabrication of the government and/or Next Generation US Tech, or from some previously unknown advanced civilization.
About 1 in 4 say the US is just incompetent (in error or being leapfrogged).
The poll ran for 3 days to decrease selection bias. It was stable from early on in the response patterns.
Over 2/5 of you have already gone to some form of alien explanation.
Even at this crude level I find this fascinating having run several of these Twitter polls in the past.
The poll was intended to force people to make a definite guess:
There is nothing real there (lying or incompetence)
There is something there (US tech)
There is something there (Adversaries).
There is something there (Aliens)
More characters would have helped, but not much.
But here is what I find fascinating: if 2/5 of us think this is Aliens, and 3/4 of us think the US is *baldly* lying on a matter of grave security, in possession of out of this world tech, or are being visited by advanced alien civilizationsā¦and UAP is still not the top story.
I personally have no idea whatās going on. If I believe in my country then it is most likely aliens. If I disbelieve my country we are engaged in a lie that will soon collapse and destroy our trust and credibility even more.
Moral: get us US scientists our own US UAP data. Now.
My 1st tweet thread ever about UFO/UAP so far as I know was end of April of 2020.
So I am WAY late to this party.
Why? Because I thought this was all bullshit. I shutdown most every conversation until last year on this.
Why? Because it seemed obviously preposterous. I trusted.
I never went through an X-files phase. No āChariots of The Godsā or āAncient Aliensā phase. Ever.
I canāt even conceive of a world where this national strategy makes any sense.
The US can be occasionally ruthless. But just plain dumb? I still canāt believe we are Keystone Cops.
John reached out to me not all that long ago. I also will not kill myself. Iām not suicidal.
Also, this is getting fucking ridiculous.
This authoritarian turn around Epstein, Wuhan, Ivermectin, āFortifying Democracyā, UAP, climate, mostly peaceful protests, Leaked Tax Returnsā¦
Getting subtle messages from U.S. officials saying, in effect: "We're coming for you McAfee! We're going to kill yourself". I got a tattoo today just in case. If I suicide myself, I didn't. I was whackd. Check my right arm.
$WHACKD available only on http://McAfeedex.com:)
ā¦mandatory racism exorcism at work, #metoo witch hunts, shadowbanning, Build Back Better, Trust and Safety, TOS changes, compulsory speech, ANTIFA denials, Labor Shortage claims, denial etcā¦etc⦠is clearly a repudiation of all the US stands for. He was bugged by it all.
And if you mention the ENORMOUS number of issues that are behaving in this *same* totally artificial fashion, the reputation attacks SOAR from all sides.
What the hell has control of the US and why is it localized to the Democratic Party & itās associated media and businesses?
I wish I could remember his call w/ more precision. But it was when I was in San Francisco. I couldnāt believe I was known to him.
NOTE: I will be taking a new approach to all repetitive doxing, reputational or other attacks as a result.
Think Iām done fucking around.
Having been menaced over asking for Epstein as a fake āDisgraced Financierā to be called out by our press and connected to any intelligence services, this takes on new meaning.
When you canāt call your own damn teams for help, who can you even call?
I so hate this shit. RIP JM.
DOD: It appears not to be that we can't confirm that it's no longer the case that with multiple sensor data that it is now unlikely that at least some UAP are likely to be non-human technology or enemies leapfrogged us.
Public: Huh. Gosh. Ok. Meh.
DOD: Phew. Dodged that bullet.
Itās totally irresponsible for any scientist to refuse to investigate UAP after this report with a full and unpruned decision tree at her side.
That includes considering the total incompetence of the defense department, *aliens*, spoofing by enemies and UFO political economy.
Name a single species on earth so insignificant that biologists do not bother to include it on the phylogenetic tree or consider it interesting?
Neil:Pardon me for asking, but isnāt *this* an egocentric anti-curiosity position elevating radical obligate ādebunkingā over science?
How egocentric of us to think that Space Aliens, who have mastered interstellar travel across the Galaxy, would give a shit about humans on Earth.
This isnāt meant as a dig. I am trying to use your same exactly choice of normative framing that you used to dismiss my fellow inquiring minds in the wake of the UAP report. Happy to remove it if we can get rid of the invective. Thanks.
*exact
I subscribe to an unpopular position. Consider 3 kinds of š:
A) Ones with no life or at least no life within striking distance of the source code (ToE).
B) Worlds that are on the verge of gaining the source code but are confined to a terrestrial surface.
C) Root level access.
Now, if you can jack into the cosmos as āRootā it MAY facilitate stuff thatās unimaginable (e.g. dimension hacking) yet only one remaining big upgrade away from being able to fuse nuclei. Which is where we are now.
Iād guess all civilizations that are Root care about each other.
The following is pure speculation (Tutored by experience w/ GU):
I think we sent a signal to the cosmos in 1945 and then on Nov. 1, 1952. Fusing Nuclei is what you do JUST before you become root. If this is right, we let the cosmos know āEarth is root adjacentā w/o awareness.
Is there anyone in the cosmos listening? Perhaps not. But we are all acting as if living on a terrestrial surface with the ability to fuse nuclei is some totally normal thing due to <70 years of good luck. Which is insane.
Now what if Iām right in the above and the cosmos cares?
The idea of a newly space-time-faring unwise civilization with fresh root level access is a nightmare. And no one but no one on earth takes this seriously anymore. After 1952 fundamental physics went on progressing normally for ~20yrs. So after that itās been~50yrs of stagnation.
In those ~50yrs we learned to stop worrying. About Fusion-weapons, interstellar travel, a cosmos that listens or even our ability to progress to the end. In 1984, physicists were talking about the end of physics without irony. They then failed, while failing to report failure.
So they told another story: āString theory didnāt fail!! It may take 100s of years to figure it out!ā That is āIf we String Theorists canāt make progress, a Theory of Everything is now far over the Horizon for everyone else.ā But thatās not logically necessary. I say weāre close.
It makes sense to worry about *every* small boutique program: Lisi, Wolfram, Barbour, LQG, Tegmark, ConnesLott, Octonions, amplitudhedron, etc. Our science/defense establishment doesnāt seem to get this idea: after 50yrs of no progress it seems too abstract to practical men.
I learned from my buddy @SamHarrisOrg that he thought š½ would be Millenia ahead of us. Look at Nov 1, 1952 from Nov 1 1902: you donāt have powered flight, know what relativity or the quantum is, know that neutrons exist, know about anti-matter, etc.
From ā02, ā52 IS millennia. https://t.co/YiRc1AbkcU
Well, we may or may not have a major update in our future. And if it unlocks dimension hacking, looking glass matter, VEV/potential hacking, multi-temporal pseudo-Riemannian metrics, Dark Chemisty, Dark Light, additional families, RaritaSchwinger fields, etc then we get upgraded.
And I believe all at once.
What does that mean? I honestly donāt know.
But Imagine you sent a chainsaw, a Bugatti, Ibogaine, āMy-1st-Crisperā, and an F-18 to a badly behaved 5yr old child for a birthday present w a simple card: āEnjoy!ā Weād worry specifically b/c immaturity.
Thatās what NDT has most wrong. He thinks we are far behind anything that could visit us, but that ISNāT backed up by science. Heād have to explain why we arenāt āroot adjacentā right now or that root buys us nothing. Well?
Think of the relationship of Iran to nukes for example.
Iran is now Nuke adjacent. And their facilities and scientists keep running into mysterious problems. Why? Surely not because Iran is too insignificant to her more advanced neighbors. That would mirror NDTās argument. My argument is that root level access to nuclei *suffices*.
Am I saying āAliens are hereā? Of course not. But the āRoot Adjacency Hypothesisā is not properly discussed almost anywhere. Which defies all explanation.
Perhaps everyone else is right & Iām wrong. Absolutely! But itās common for the world to make a crazy dumb idea a consensus.
And I think NDT is enforcing a dangerous āCopernicanā consensus that we are too insignificant to even monitor or visit, to go along with āWeāve had Nukes for 70 years without losing a city. I wouldnāt worry. What could possibly go wrong.ā
This is just a human rationality flaw.š
When does Jon Stewart signal it is finally okay to talk about progressing cognitive decline?
He isnāt the only one. Jon did the Wuhan lab leak. @TIME did āfortificationā 2020. @BarackObama got UAP and Wokeness. Brad Delong got to reveal NAFTA was social Darwinianā¦
But the rules are very clear on EXACTLY who is allowed to say āPrevious Fringe view X is now Mainstream!ā
What was special about Stewart was quite subtle. He didnāt say āThe facts have changed.ā He said: itās obvious & has always been so, that the Biosafety Level4 Bat Corona Virus lab is the likely origin while Colbert feigned being shocked: The Gated Institutional Narrative updated.
An irrational attachment to being able to feed their families & avoid reputational ruin on a going forward basis. Call it a hunch.
UAP with crappy video and without hard data is unbounded downside with limited upside for scientists.
Itās absurd: We donāt bring in our own team.
The fact that many of us have moved on from the UAP report is fascinating.
During the financial crisis, the phrase āNon-Recourse Loanā was used to describe the governmentās āreliefā strategy.
And folks just walked right by āNon-Recourse Loansā as if it were just boring jargon.
@JohnGingyJo Read it *super* closely. Thatās the only way it is so interesting.
Physicsā Overton Window.
We can talk about CRAZY stuff thatās irrelevant to our lives & never progresses: Boltzmann Brains, Many Worlds, String Theory Unification, AdS, Super-partners, etc.
We canāt talk about anything that COULD suddenly change everything. UAP, other TOEs, etc
My point isnāt at all that low probability topics are likely to change everything. Itās that we feel *safe* knowing certain crazy ideas always seem to lead nowhere. But we feel unsafe when we donāt know if what weāre looking at *could* surprise us by suddenly changing our world.
An example: In GU, relativity theory is recovered from the Observerse which is constructed around two separate spaces X and Y. Einsteinās Spacetime (a signature (1,3) 4-manifold with pseudo Riemannian metric) is recovered from observations of Y by X.
Another example. Some see spacetime as the commutative limit of a non-commutative manifold. That would be beyond relativity.
Others see topology changing operators that allow agents to change spacetime topologically. Again that would be beyond the usual relativity theory.
But in standard Relativity theory as an effective theory, I donāt think about FTL. Sorry.
Scratch the UAP story and you soon learn that there are a surprising number of seemingly sane people orbiting around the Pentagon who assert that UAP are particularly active around our nuclear weapons.
What to make of this? š¤·āāļø But the above *can* be said *without* speculation.
Are they all insane? Donāt know. Seems unlikely.
Are they propagandized? Seems far fetched but possible.
Is it a Psy-op? Maybe.
Mass psychosis? Donāt think so. But it could be a self reinforcing belief.
But no one wants to chew up their credibility talking about these rumors.
And just so we are clear on the nature of the rumors, here is what you hear over and over again:
āThe UAP arenāt merely hovering over nukes. The UAP know how to *shut down* nuclear weapons.ā
This is why I never listened to UFO rumors BEFORE the DOD report. Itās just too crazy.
Things I don't believe we can't conclusively resolve:
A) COVID's origin.
B) The Jeffrey Epstein story.
C) UAP.
D) JFK assassination.
E) Vegas Shooting.
F) Extent of 'Democracy Fortifying' in 2020.
G) Efficacy of Non-Vaccines.
H) Mysterious WEF 'Build Back Better' mantra.
I) Negative impacts of Trade known to have been suppressed.
J) Adulteration of BLS CPI measure of inflation.
K) Negative economic impacts of Immigration.
L) Sudden spike in fake 'Objective Third Party Fact Checking'.
M) Sudden "Diversity Equity Inclusion" explosion.
Q) Joe Biden's state of cognitive decline.
R) Nature of MSNBC campagin against Andrew Yang.
S) Nature of Dean Scream, Anti-Ron Paul and other interference in democracy by Mainstream media News.
T) Impact of loss of mandatory retirement on young people seeking work.
U) Rex84.
V) Collusion between National Academy and National Science foundation division of Policy Research and Analysis to fake demographic crisis in mid 1980s.
W) Lack on anyone building the significant & desperately needed new non-profit institutions despite skyhigh wealth inequality.
X) Loss of Academic Freedom across the board in Academe.
Y) Loss of the Lancet and other publications as trusted non-political sources of fact.
Z) The true nature of @EcoHealthNYC w its relationship to @doddtra & Dr A. Fauci.
Moral: much of this 'ambiguity' is serving the few.
@MLGACE Whatever our data is for UFO/UAP. Accelerations. Heat signature. Cloaking. Transmedia behavior. Cornering ability. I have no idea. I just know we aren't looking at high quality data and I know we have MUCH higher quality data than has been released.
After a zoom call yesterday with Avi Loeb, Iāve decided to join Harvardās Galileo Project on its Research Team.
Time to de-stigmatize the whole topic and help the data talk. The claimed phenomenon of UFO/UAP, after all, should be a scientific question.
A key point. We use cosmic rays as if they were from an accelerator. There is an outside chance that UAP should be thought of the same way.
If weāre hurting for new physical phenomena to analyze, some portion of our physics effort should be spent debunking or understanding UAP.
@delta_waverider There are many sightings that are bunk. Your issue is with the nature of the complement of that set. But debunking will need to be done in all future scenarios. Nature of the beast.
@michaelshermer I havenāt seen any compelling data. I have been told that such data exists in abundance from multiple sources that I trust. No idea how to square that.
@s_offiler @michaelshermer Not saying anything beyond that I find the videos released uncompelling as data. I find the incident super interesting. Would like to see the entire time series of data taken in by all sensors.
I have been dismayed by the senator before this.
But this is correct. And courageous. UAP is both a security and a scientific issue. Stop the giggles. Start the study.
Maybe I was too hasty about dismissing KG. Opening my mind again.
2022
Can someone authenticate the existence of this claim for me? Iām new to UFOs. Before the report on UAP this last summer, I would think this is BS.
Now I believe itās more likely to be real, having updated my Bayesian priors. And, again, apologies to all of you Iāve denigrated.
Is there such a text?
Has the USG owned up to it?
Is there a PDF of it circulating?
Are there others attached to Wright Patterson AFB, or the RIAS, or the Physical Fields institute of UNC Chappell Hill or Brown Universityās Non Linear Dynamics Group, or the Glen L Martin Co.?
Sorry for the weird specificity but Iām trying to link this to things that I know to be real and that Iāve been puzzled about for years that never made sense to me.
Also, itās hard to fake an entire text competently. So this is interesting.
Thanks #ufotwitter.
Hi Michael,
Not updating my priors on all UFO sightings. Iām updating my priors on āThe Golden Age of General Relativityā, B DeWitt, L Witten, RIAS, the Martin Company, etc.ā And Iām doing it based on a government report inconsistent with the closing report of BlueBook. And you?
Dear @EricRWeinstein
According to UFOlogists 95% of all sightings for all time are explained by natural/terrestrial phenom (planes, blimps, geese, sun dogs, lens flares, etc.). 5% unexplained (ā ET or Russian tech). X new sighting is made. Which bin is X most likely to be in?
We have been spun. And as skeptics we have to notice the inconsistencies.
We were likely either spun this last summer, or spun at the closure of Operation BlueBook.
The whole thing sounds like total bullshit. But we also have a lot of weird stuff from real 1950s science.
Who were Babson and Bahnson? Those stories donāt make much sense. Why Bryce and Cecile DeWitt and Peter Higgs in Chappell hill funded as part of a weird anti-gravity program?
Simple question: how did you tutor your priors last summer? Not at all? A tiny amount?
Skeptically, E
My colleague and friend Jesse Michels asked me to interview Dr. @haroldputhoff on UAP/UFO. Wasnāt sure how to do this, so we tried oscillating between steelmanning and critiquing what Puthoff was able to say within his obligations of non-disclosure.
Can we just end the secrecy?
For those of you speculating on channels reaching out to Sam Harris, myself and others on UFO/UAP. There was a minimum of one planned dissemination that got called off for reasons unknown. I am not at liberty to discuss. But I can say why people like Sam are likely to be quiet.
What has so far been released to the public by government has been minimal. No one I know wants to incinerate credibility becoming a true believer over a tiny number of relatively low quality USG videos which, at least to me, prove absolutely nothing.
So then: why be interested?
Because there is an ocean of weird behavior and claims coming from otherwise sober seeming USG and former USG people. And a lot of it is weirdly consistent. So Iām totally underwhelmed by the direct evidence so far. But Iām baffled by the indirect evidence. What generated this?
I wonāt speak for @SamHarrisOrg. But I failed to generate *any* good explanation for the repeated and fairly consistent assertions of DOD/IC types with no evident training in acting or theater. To say nothing of ordinary non-USG people. Soā¦none of us knows what to think. Truly.
Something huge is up. It could be a psychological operation. It could be next generation spoofing by an adversary. It could be mass psychosis. But I donāt want to speculate beyond a decision tree. Something huge *is* up. And I dug hard, but failed to get beyond indirect evidence.
What is worse, the most parsimonious explanations are the obvious two:
A) Our government is engaged in deception and utterly brilliant at it.
B) š½.
If the former, it is more competent than we ever suspected.
Everything else is less parsimonious. But I canāt make sense of it.
One request: stop speculating. Some folks are reaching out. They pulled back a bit. And I for one may stop talking about this if asked due to the security issues. But that which has been shared with the public is not enough to go on. Itās the indirect evidence we are watching. š
I developed a private principle which has been useful in life. It says:
āA fair coin canāt always land on its side, seemingly by accident, without constant, deliberately cryptic active management by others unseen.ā
This UAP coin always seems to land on its side.
@MickWest Mick, I donāt know how to communicate this, but you seem to want to be a dedicated debunker here. What direct evidence has been shared with the public, on its own, doesnāt seem to require this level of aggressive debunking. Itās just not that compelling. I agree with you on that.
@MickWest Simply put, trying to turn it all into the occult + swamp gas + reflections on a lens + lying to get attention etcā¦doesnāt seem very compelling. Some of it is surely that, but something else is likely at play. Thereās too much that doesnāt fit that description for it to so easy.
@MickWest Hope you are right. Or wrong. But this is seemingly a lot weirder than you are admitting. Too many grownups with security clearances and training telling too many similar stories at this point. Maybe itās all fake. If so, Iād be impressed. But I donāt understand your confidence.
@MickWest Appreciate your perspective. Didnāt have that before. Thanks Mick.
Iām just going to say it:
Is this our BEST video/data/imagery when it comes to withstanding scrutiny?? Why choose this??
Let us guess: there will be yet more releases of things that are less impressive than ordinary photography, photoshop, CGI, or video games.
Enough already.
This is coming to feel like an infinite tease. Letās stop making our nation, our military & our government look like idiots. Reveal or donāt. Show or donāt. We all get that there are security issues. But stop teasing with blobs, blurs and snippets less convincing than deep fakes.
My physics colleagues generally still have yet to incorporate what is going on in the changing UAP picture.
All of this lawyerly āobservations that currently cannot be completely explainedā soft language in the absence of hard data is pretty confusing.
Imagine if an MD said to you āFor legal reasons protecting our clinic, I canāt share your data with you, but it is not impossible that a still small number of atypical cells may be non locally replicating above baseline.ā as a way of letting you know you had metastasized tumor.
You might, or might not, even understand what a serious situation you were in. It all sounds so bloodless.
If you did understand it, you would want to see the data. It is YOUR data after all. Data about you.
Thatās where we are. No real data. Bloodless language. Few scientists.
More or less, we are increasingly being told we have what *appear* to be *large* numbers of craft of unknown origin in our skies and seas taking an unusual interest in world military activities so that our own government has asymmetrically good data it doesnāt want to show us.
Some portion of the USG is saying we are repeatedly being visited by non human technology. Some other portion of the government is saying āDonāt say thatā either because it is a lie or they want it to stay hidden.
The net effect: destruction of trust in government and science.
It is now time to inform us all. It is either an elaborate USG psyop hoax or something of incomparable significance. Itās not swamp gas anymore. Itās not Mylar balloons and a few people desperate to get on television.
But it is definitely time to end the soft language. Itās big.
@MickWest Mick, no offense, but at this point you are just wrong. There are factions within government, ex-government and government contracting, and some of them are saying that. Enough.
Or as you say: BS. Sorry.
@MickWest Mick, donāt take this the wrong way. But you are highly motivated and stigmatizing. When you ask āwho?ā you are playing dumb. I have agreed with you that the videos arenāt compelling. But you donāt quit.
So either play the debunker or donāt. But this isnāt 2 guys and 3 videos.
@MickWest Obviously a lot of serious people are scared about reputational attacks. But this isnāt in range of just debunking a few videos anymore. Something is going on. We just canāt know with confidence if it is real deception or real phenomena until real data is released. Clear?
@MickWest Iām getting fatigued. I donāt talk much about the Tic Tac. Or the Zimbabwe kids. Or Lue. Or Remote Viewing. Clear?
There are an enormous number of IC and DOD related folks who want to know what we are seeing. And this āDebunkingā grainy videos feels petty. Itās not the videos.
@MickWest I had to admit that there is an unbelievable amount of indirect evidence that something is going on with not much direct evidence.
Thatās pretty weird. But pretending that this is either debunked or real misses the point. And I canāt keep having this nonprogressing interaction.
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Request for Help: have any of the technical folks claiming UAP knowledge been interviewed by technical folks w/ knowledge of General Relativity & Particle physics?
I would like to watch such a conversation dealing with the dry science of how UAP are claimed/thought to work. š
This could include someone like Eric Davis, Bob Lazar, Travis Taylor, etc. maybe at blackboard talking over equations/Lagrangians, rather than merely speaking in prose
And if this doesnāt exist, why doesnāt it exist? Forgive me, but I donāt know the history here. Seems odd. Thx.
I have been told this repeatedly by sober seeming USG and ex-USG folks. That both the US Navy and Air Force hold video of *arbitrarily* high quality backed up by extensive sensor data.
I have seen none of it. Zero. If I had signed away my right to disclose, I could not say this.
It may all be an elaborate lie. But the basic stories are pretty consistent. And one of them is that the UAP take an asymmetric interest in our advanced militaries. Unfortunately, that is also consistent with military disinformation, weapons R&D, spying, etc. i.e. cover stories.
So one version of events is that the military holds this high quality video/data because the UAP focused on our advanced militaries. The other version is that UAP cover stories are used by the Military to disguise what are sensitive security issues. But without the hard data⦠š
Under Newton, we were free to explore the cosmos: 1686-1905.
Einstein then enforced house arrest to our solar system:1905-Now.
@elonmusk then said chemical rockets could get us 2 more spheres w Newtonian laws.
But survival hinges on going *beyond* Einstein, not back to Newton.
Iām not going to complicate the basic story with caveats. Thatās the basic plot.
Either there is freedom to leave based on new ideas, like GU, or the Einsteinian restrictions will persist.
If they persist; we probably can mildly elongate survival here by decades via wisdom.
But if we can leave to explore the universe by going beyond Einstein, anyone else out there can visit.
This brings us to UFO/UAP. Assuming a distribution of life in the cosmos:: some life is behind us in science, with others ahead.
A (loose) argument then links UAP to survival:
If life is abundant & weāre not the top of the hierarchy (which is reasonable to me), Iād guess that UAP would be here if that is possible in Einsteinās successor theories. The absence of UAP is strong but *inconclusive* proof that Einsteinās restrictions persist in all theory.
Hence my interest in UAP. UAP from distant worlds would be a strong indication that it is possible to diversify our shared risk which is that all known technological life is dependent on one atmosphere linking our three main existential risks:
A) Climate
B) Pathogen
C) Radiation
So if #ufotwitter ever wanted to know why I didnāt take #UFO seriously, it was because I thought it was *preposterous* given lack of evidence.
And if #ScienceTwitter wants to know why I spun on a dime, itās because it IS linked to the post-Einsteinian physics of our survival. š
Just now on the Santa Monica freeway in broad daylight.
I know, I know, itās slightly blurry. Granted⦠but it was gone before I knew it. https://t.co/uIqtYhOMHq
@vallez_joe Even @MickWest says this is unlikely to be a Mylar balloon.
@LoudmouthLisa UAP is the US governmentās new name for UFO:
This official US government military website has now REMOVED its extremely bizarre insigniaā¦as if this was just totally normal behavior.
I have no idea whatās going on or what the official narrative will be around this. I was told to focus on its color scheme as the main clue.
This pattern of āextend, then retractā has been my consistent experience of the entire official USG, IC, DoD, part of the UAP/UFO world.š
Though Iād get some help, trying to figure out what the heck is actually going on. Thanks Lue. https://t.co/9bkSYNnzXt
1) General Relativity 2) (Pseudo-)Riemannian Geometry 3) Quantum Field Theory 4) Material Science/Condensed Matter 5) Nuclear Physics/Weaponry 6) Disinformation Theory 7) Cult Indoctrination/Deprogramming 8) Propaganda 9) Preference Falsification Theory 10) Mansfield Amendment
11) Science Policy Theory (V Bush) 12) Selection (Abstracted) 13) Comparative Eschatology 14) Anti-Gravity Pseudo-science involving top physicists and mathematicians in the era of the So-Called āGolden age of General Relativityā. 15) GU 16) Mind control.
Remember: you asked! ;-)
@thatdudej6 @Deepfryguy76 @Puthoffbyputho1 @dwpasulka @TUPACABRA2 @FullStackLogan Many decision makers interpret UFO-UAP in religious terms. And the population has an enormous pre-existing memetic complex of religious ideology. So it is essential. Even if you are a hard core atheist.
Iām happy to answer a few.
Itāll be fewer than Iād like. I was invited to participate in the press conference about to start, but that project is totally separate, so I politely declined the gracious offer of my hosts, as I came here as *unaffiliated* observer.
How may I help?
If youāre not interested in my responses, or feel I owe you total personal disclosure, I politely decline in advance and suggest you unfollow. Any abuse of good will ends in a block. Those are my rules so that I can say all I might to those genuinely interested. Fair? Letās go!
@DasWoolf I was not expecting to speak. The guest of honor, Lue Elizondo, became unavailable at the last minute. I was asked to step in. As a courtesy I agreed, and shared some ideas that represent no one but myself as a private US citizen working with publicly available info. Specifics?
@andyinberlin I am not as sure as you are that this what is going on. Itās a matryoshka problem. Iām convinced that many people you think of as insiders are not really inside enough. The UAP/UFO community leaps to MANY conclusions as if this is fun. This is not fun if you are serious about it.
@ALean_Skye I donāt think people understand disclosure properly. Consider layers:
A) The basic *claimed* phenomena.
B) Associate phenomena.
C) Cover up of the above.
D) People in the know living a lie.
E) Outsiders being destroyed to keep secrets.
F) Outsiders being forced to live lies.
@ALean_Skye Disclosure likely has to do with F) as much as anything. No matter what A) Turns out to be. Which I still donāt really know. If you are fighting for disclosure, donāt over focus on whether we are prepared for A).
Iām not inflating my level of knowledge here. I still donāt know.
@andyinberlin I see a lot of people struggling under a heavy weight. People take their NDAs very seriously.
@dkb003 Official panels tend to be tightly controlled in advance through use of insiders. Occasionally that screws up and you get a Jeff Sachs (Lancet) or a Richard Feynman/Gen Kutyna (Challenger). Galileo Project is an outsider project. Prefer the latter.
@DasWoolf Technology is the entry point *if* recovered craft are real. Iāve seen no such proof. None.
But it is *psychotic* not to have Particle Theorists, General Relativists and Differential Geometers all over our US effort. I have yet to meet one in two years. Makes me very suspicious.
@DasWoolf One thought is that it is very hard to make up ghost stories about how Alcubierre Drives, Wormholes, Time Dilation, etc REALISTICALLY account for this with actual specialists.
I mean, I get it. But itās nonsense. This is not about tech. Itās about post-GR/SM physics or a psyop.
@DasWoolf It could sorta kinda maybe be a cover story for advanced tech. But I canāt get that to make sense yet. Maybe my failure of imagination.
@delbel156 If others have gone beyond GR/SM to navigate/settle the cosmos, I donāt think they would let us leave this solar system with the BS we see in Russia/Ukraine, Wuhan etc. We look like a crazy species about to unlock the source code. Itās unbelievable. We look like savage fools.
@delbel156 Just got warned. You want to know why I donāt tweet? Sorry all. Write to Twitter. Iām out. https://t.co/8aR5F0juYf
@delbel156 This account is throttled beyond belief. Check the graph over time. Check the level of reputational attack. Check the DOJ ready to block Elon. Go review portal Episode 21. The level of narrative control is through the roof. Wake up. Look at the patterns. All FUD. All suppression. https://t.co/949t7DAPsS
@delbel156 Iām trying to keep this channel open.
The Portal is a communal resource. It reappears when you both need it and are prepared to fight for it. I cannot answer the interpersonal attacks myself as a public figure. Think about it a bit: Itās not haters. Itās a bit more serious.š
Willing to answer a few more Tweets on the San Marino UAP conference where I unexpectedly was asked to fill in for @LueElizondo. Iām likely to get throttled & harassed yet again. When and if the beloved Twitter nanny algorithm starts again, Iāll call it a night here in Rome.
Same rules as before. No changes on my part. Iām doing this only because I am not trying to hide anything that I am in a reasonable position to share and many of you want to know what the heck is going on as much as I do. But there are limits. Such is life.
Shoot.
@McLuhanStates @LueElizondo There is a lot of loose talk about dimensionality. Keep in mind that I have zero direct evidence of the phenomena. So this is wildly premature.
My interest here is that GU replaces one manifold with two in a bundle structure and adds BOTH temporal and spatial dimensions.
@McLuhanStates @LueElizondo As the author of GU, I still donāt know how to think in multiple temporal dimensions. The math is quite exotic. But I at least know through GU that the math can FORCE us to confront ultra hyperbolic PDE. It would change everything we know if unscreened. No simple Hamiltonian.
@McLuhanStates @LueElizondo I wish people would stop talking about higher dimensional beings though. If GU is on point, then we are also higher dimensional beings. So I could do without Exoticism. If this is in any way real, we should reserve speech for precise meanings. And I donāt know if it is real. Yet.
@prowl4uap @LueElizondo Here goes. I still feel like this FEELS like bullshit. Particularly the number of explicit depictions of Tetrapod hominid like beings.
But the truckloads of indirect evidence suggests NHI. I just donāt have a way of squaring this. And the āexperiencersā are breaking my heart.
@prowl4uap @LueElizondo I wasnāt prepared for this part to be honest. Iāve met so many voices whoās lives were taken over by an experience that they seemingly didnāt want. People breaking down. As far from attention seeking as you can imagine with no theater background. Itās pretty hard to explain away.
@prowl4uap @LueElizondo Why would ordinary folks ruin their lives like this? No money in it. No desire for fame. No other signs of shifted reality. So I donāt know what to say.
The absence of direct evidence screams BS. The indirect evidence screams some wildly new thing in town. And Iām too dumb here.
@mikedduffey @LueElizondo Donāt know. Less if not asked to do something official. I hate this topic. Itās an infinite conundrum. Always a new hint. Never just some actual solid trustworthy data.
Iāve had quite enough space opera and national security runaround. Letās get to the meal. Too many appetizers.
@montanacasey @LueElizondo Donāt know who that is. I see the name around. But Iām not really in this space. Itās embarrassing. But Iām not a ufologist. And there is so much ufology that Iām not up on this stuff. My fault.
@smbodie3 @LueElizondo People were very kind. Apparently I did some wrong things on stage. But a condition of taking this on the night before was that I would be me. They decided this is real. I donāt have that data. I am still spread over real / not real until I see something super clear & concrete.
@twitpucker @LueElizondo Iād start with academic freedom and civility. There is more than enough here to DEMAND answers. This belongs to science as much as it does to NatSec. We donāt need a Fauci for UAP. We need physics and math to begin. Biology if warranted. Letās just be serious if it is a threat.
@twitpucker @LueElizondo The gigglers & shamers & accusers need to get a pacifier and a juice box for a time out. We gave out too many PhDs to mediocre souls. Itās a disaster. Itās nuts that theyāre STILL here to inhibit consideration of this after all the claims by USG.
Too much inclusion of trolls.
@BostonsBuddha @twitpucker @LueElizondo It appears to be titrated. Which I dislike. At some point foreplay made sense. That was a while ago. Enough.
@StevenBelmont4 @LueElizondo Weāre now waiting for a cataclysmic event to arrive in a Poisson process. We arenāt getting it. Biden & Putin & Xi & Kim & Khamenei & Zelensky are not getting where we are. Itās like theyāre throwing a rave on a life boat surrounded by oceanic whitetips. Who are these people?
@StevenBelmont4 @LueElizondo We have all our eggs in this basket and we are focused on Eastern Ukraine & Chips in Taiwan like the world didnāt change last century forever? Iām totally lost. I donāt want to be here for the Poisson process. I want to be somewhere with an atmosphere and real distance from this.
@RGoddardishere @LueElizondo Would prefer not to. I need data and an end to NatSec paternalism. This is either serious or it isnāt. If it isnāt, stop wasting time. If it is, you need the physicists and geometers at a minimum. Where are they??
@codingfodder @LueElizondo Read @notevenwrongās excerpts of the David E Kaplan interview. We need to clean house to revitalize physics as if our lives depend on its progress. Anyone who wants to whine about taxpayer dollars for theoretical physics gets thrown out of the planning discussion. So destructive.
@UAPDAO @LueElizondo Yesā¦but itās like space opera. Lots of claims. Iād like to see something. Isnāt it a bit weird to hear these super detailed stories with hard NO EVIDENCE this even happened?
Itās embarrassing frankly. Like Stag-o-Lee stories around a campfire. Only from serious people.
@galacticfuton Been going on for too long. š¤·āāļø
@207isHeaven Iām not read in anywhere. Not an insider unless I have to become one.
@SergheiIancenco @McLuhanStates @LueElizondo Thereās an operation called āPull Backā in differential topology. Itās akin to pulling back data from a record album. You donāt hear the album all at once even though the data is all there at once. Weād be pullbacks into 4D from 14D w/ both 4D & 14D existence. Bit of a mind flip.
@nickthadude_86 @LueElizondo Many. Of either Material vehicles or spoofing and disinformation. It feels like a spoof that is too big for anyone or any group to pull off. Like way too big. So I think itās probably real. Just canāt believe it has no solid evidence. I donāt get how this is possible.
@TheCertainT @Klupperz Let me answer this. I donāt think we are alone in the universe. So a lot rests on GR being effectively a moat making travel so cumbersome as to be not worth attempting. If thatās wrong; itās pretty arrogant to think we are alone in the solar system. Post-GR changes a lot of odds.
@TheCertainT @Klupperz I promise you India would keep the North Sentinelese from leaving and causing trouble if the Islanders figured out Science and Fusion Wepons before they figured out how to escape and build vehicles to escape their island. Think about it.
@lololmaoha @LueElizondo Magic spoon has weird mouth feel. But itās okay.
@Intriguing_Post @LueElizondo Tetrapods are the least interesting beings. Because then itās likely just earth life or we were seeded from them. Tells us little about Post-GR escape. Post-GR is everything to me. Can we travel the cosmos? Dunno.
āOur home is in the stars or not at all.ā
I believe that.
@207isHeaven No.
@kerskine They are running out of road. So it is way up. People are fed up.
@YungJozuz Yes.
@ben83724 Canāt answer.
@DannyDeck68 There was a lot of disinformation around the Golden Age of GR. Itās mostly in the public domain. But it requires piecing together.
@ben_koski Last Question of the Night: where did the top mathematicians and physicists go after the Mansfield amendment(s)? How can you have UAP where I am the only voice loudly pointing out that Real Alien Vehicles would like require new physical law. We can account for every relevant PhD.
@ben_koski Where are the physicists and Geometers? Hint hint.
If they are not out here, itās likely all BS. If they are here, they are hidden in plain sight. There just arenāt that many of us. Technology wonāt work if you donāt know the relevant science. Thatās not engineering or MatSci.
@ben_koski Stop dreaming about FTL. Or element 115. Or Alcubierre GR. Or electogravitics. Itās bizarre that we discuss this so much.
First Ask: where are our relevant experts? Imagine you want the top 25 GR/SM/DiffGeometers for a matter of national security? Put together that list.
@ben_koski If those folks arenāt out here then we are talking about a psyop or a giant government blunder endangering us all. If they ARE here, you know their names. Work backwards. Is there an NSA for UAP? If so what is its address? Come on guys. Not many speak this language. Small club.
@ben_koski What happened with the Mansfield amendment & why does no one discuss this? We used to have our top people on this but we called it something else. Where did it go? Either it ended or it didnāt. Itās a tiny world. Just donāt get all Qanon. Itās a big story: Treat it w/ respect.š
@ben_koski Hope that helped clear things up. I was never meant to speak at this conference. Keep that in mind. Goodnight.
Let me say two things.
A) I have always believed that almost all Unidentified Flying Objects are just that: something unremarkable that is not identified.
B) That has nothing to do with the issue of the remainder. It takes no more than a *single* confirmed inexplicable event.
Beyond that, as I have told you, I am sure that I am being used by at least some of those who have come to talk to me. But I cannot come up with any explanation for some of the representations made to me. And I get more fed up by the day with USG playing āLucy & the footballā.
National Security isnāt license to gaslight & ruin the lives of ordinary folks who arenāt participating in IC games. Itās cruel, abusive & totally UnAmerican. Come up with better cover if you need it. But between bioweapons/UAP gaslighting, youāre playing god. And youāre not him.
Shabbat Shalom everyone. Have a great weekend.
@Methedra And often forced to speak as if one voice. Donāt forget that part.
@CarpathianMts Happy to NEVER mention UFO/UAP ever again and work quietly. Totally up to what the interested community wants. I hate this topic. I just think it is clear that it appears to be critically important. Even if it is a USG headfake.
@nickpopemod I say exactly the same. But, to be fair, the skeptics can point to zero incontrovertible evidence (at least so far as I am aware)ā¦Which is a big deal in my book. The soft evidence is not in their favor. The absence of hard evidence *available to citizens & scientists* is. š¤·āāļø
This is an odd moment. Official Washington tells us we have lost control of airspace. But also we should not in any way freak out because it is mostly just a combination of Hypersonic enemy drones of rival powers and some ultra high performing seagulls. And some alien non-aliens.
Which is to sayā¦we clearly have two factions in government not allowed to file separate reports. The result is total intellectual incoherence.
So the whole thing comes across like the USG is having its first collective magic mushroom trip in real time. Itās so embarrassing.
Good luck on this report. If I had to guess it will again be super interesting if unpacked and as boring as possible on the surface. But I have little confidence in my own guess.
I am going to drop my interest way back if things stay like this too much longer. But letās see. š
@528vibes Letās put it this way. I will lose interest in government disclosure as a self protective measure. This is an abusive relationship. Whose government is it? Ours? Theirs? Lockheedās? Enough.
Iām playing by the rules. They arenāt.
@seanonolennon Done.
@IdesignsWak Deliberate misinterpretation to smear never gets old.
@seanonolennon Letās get out of here.
Miss you too. And happy belated if I didnāt call. I think I did or sent a voice message. But the days run together honestly.
@MickWest Ya know, it kinda did Mick. It speaks with many voices. And some of those heads said stuff.
I really donāt get why we are often apart. We agree there is no incontrovertible concrete data in the public domain. And I never mention those grainy videos because they donāt impress me.
@MickWest Anytime you can clear up a bird or a weather ballon, or flares or a jet with a funny reflection, I am thrilled.
Iām really grateful for that part of what you have contributed. So thank you.
But the other part, leaves me feeling like I just donāt get something.
Take care.
@UAP_LEE @dsmethurst66 Yeah. That must be it. ;-)
One of the questions about UFOs that needs to be asked, and that I donāt hear much about, is: āHas the US government built fake UFOs?ā
UFO people are so focused on whether there are real UFOs that they donāt push hard enough on this question.
Allow me to share a thought or two. https://t.co/B1FXSmb9Z3
When I first realized I was totally wrong about UFO/UAP, I was shocked by how many folks have very similar stories about recovered crashes of very similar advanced vehicles.
It was mind blowing in 2 ways.
A) We have real crashed vehicles. And/Or B) We built fake alien vehicles. https://t.co/4sOOXDtPoW
At this point Iām reasonably sure there are things that look like cool alien vehicle in some hangers. But I also grew up near Hollywood and remember super cool looking fake space cars visible off the Hollywood freeway.
So: does anyone have stories of building fake UFOs for USG? https://t.co/3JuMmOwFRZ
As you likely guessed, all the photos in this thread are fake military equipment. The airbase is totally fake. The dummy tanks are often inflated on the battlefield. The fake tank pieces are bolted on to real cars.
Q: Did we build fake UFOs in places like Wright-Patterson AFB? https://t.co/VRD9vroHdm
After studying this issue for 2yrs, Iām pretty convinced that there ARE wild looking vehicles in secret high security locations. But I also find NO SIGN OF OUR TOP PHYSICISTS. That is a huge red flag. If you had fake UFOs, you would have a puzzle for physics: What is the science?
A true recovered interstellar craft would be like LHC or LIGO data: potential scientific data for physics beyond the Standard Model and General Relativity.
But if the crafts are fake, you would be crazy to let the A-team physicists near them. It would blow up in your face.
So my ignorant question is this: are there stories of building fake UFOs for sites in Nevada? Ohio? Are there fake retrieval teams? To what extent does faking military equipment spill into faking a UFOgasm for decades?
Because there are too many very similar craft stories. https://t.co/CfXOh0yXdW
So, at this point, the stories of craft kept at secret locations is most likely to be true in my opinion. But it is also true that all the top physics talent that was working only semi-covertly on suspicious gravity projects left by the early 1970s. So any craft may be faked.
Either way, itās a big deal. Everything changed in the early 70s. Itās impossible to say how much. The moment the Mansfield amendment came in, physics began to stagnate. And āQuantum Gravityā destroyed our culture of science. We donāt even whisper about its āAnti-Gravityā origin.
So to sum up: there do *appear* to be craft. But advanced armies all build dummy weapons.
Q1: Do we have any Fakes? Q2: Do we have only Fakes? Q3: Why do we talk almost *exclusively* about Technology and not new Post-GR/SM science if there are *any* real interstellar craft?
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Note Added: many readers are making wild inferences about me talking about flying fakes. I was very clear that this was about apparent crafts on the ground and in Hangars in Nevada, Ohio & elsewhere.
Wild or bad inference patterns will get you blocked. I donāt have time. Thx.
Uh. Iām kind of coming to the end of my patience w/ this line of thinking.
PhD Scientists arenāt the āhelp.ā We are the backbone. And, honestly, I would never treat ANY service people this way! The security risks of embittering scientists by treating them like servants is nuts.
This isnāt 18th century France. Just a thought.
I donāt think there is any history of my ever commenting on @SBF_FTX.
It is because I never deeply understood what was going on when it was explained to me. Iām not going to lie: I felt dumb.
Moral: be very careful celebrating success that you donāt understand for its own sake.
Other things that made/make me feel dumb:
Bernie Madoffās Returns
COVID origin questions = Racism
Fauci
Hilaryās Inevitability
Quantum Gravity
Jeffrey Epsteinās CCY trading Claims
CPI Construction
UFO/UAP
Chinese Graduate Students in STEM
Open Borders
Defund The Police
DEI
NIH
@Deepneuron @SBF_FTX I canāt explain curvature tensor to 5 year olds. I admit I donāt even understand the rule of āif you canāt explain it simply you donāt understand it.ā It seems totally wrong to me! Oh well.
@TOEwithCurt I think that there is a lot more deliberate mis/disinformation right now and a modest increase in the level of information. So far as I can make out, they seem related. Itās as if as soon as more needles appear, haystacks arrive that make them hard to find.
Iām pretty annoyed.
@TOEwithCurt As to intuitionā¦.we donāt and shouldnāt have much.
Hard UFO/UAP data is supposed to be all about the unprecedented. Disinformation and superstition is all well precedented. So intuition should say itās all BS. The whole thing comes down to hard data.
Intuition here is useless.
2023
So far as I am aware, there is as yet ZERO evidence of UAP/UFO craft defying the laws of known physics based on high quality publicly available data.
There are simply an enormous number of videos, rumors, eye witness accounts, and indirect indications.
What should we propose?
I have no idea what the ground truth is on UAP. But I strongly believe itās time for science to take UAP seriously, & push for answers. Even if every single one is mundane, we will surely learn things along the way. There is LOTS of evidence. Itās time to look for PROOF w/data!
I donāt mean to rain on any parades, but the complete absence of high quality data made available to scientists is both a MAJOR clue and an impediment to figuring this out. It is interpreted as the government not wanting scientists to investigate. Thus, it makes it sound like BS.
My position on UFO/UAP is that this is something *huge* that Iām simply not smart enough to figure out. Iām not going to lie and say itās all weather balloons. And Iām not going to lie and say we have solid high quality publicly available data when we donāt: we are being starved.
Did I miss some tweets, Eric, where you slowly pivoted from the "government have kept all of this data secret, this must mean something, why is no one taking this seriously" to the message today?
I haven't got a strong stance here but felt like there's been a change in yours.
Point blank: we are being starved for information. My response to being starved for information is not to guess which branch of the decision tree is correct but to share with you the contradictory evidence both direct and circumstantial. I donāt know why others pretend to know.š
2024
Many of you are asking for my reaction regarding the just released @DoD_AARO report. There is much to say. I want to think carefully before saying more. I am not unsympathetic to US National Security needs in this.
In February of 2023, @joerogan invited me for four hours onto the world's largest English Language program (episode #1945) to describe in detail the mystery of potential US Government involvement in UFOs and Post-Einsteinian physics during the mysterious "Golden Age of General Relativity". It has been seen and discussed by millions as expected. I was thus eager to see how thorough this report would be by combing it for search strings raised in my research.
REFERENCES:
"Glenn L Martin Company": 0
Bryce Cecile DeWitt: 0
Institute for Field Physics: 0
Research Institute for Advanced Study: 0
Louis Witten: 0
Roger Babson: 0
Agnew Bahson: 0
Gravity Research Foundation: 0
Gravity: 1 (pg. 32)
Rennaisance Technologies: 0
UNC Chapel Hill: 0
Solomon Lefschetz: 0
Freeman Dyson: 0
Herman Bondi: 0
Negative Mass: 0
"Scientific and Intelligence Aspects of the UFO Problem"
Australian Intelligence 1971 Report: 0
Australia: 0
George Rideout: 0
Edward Teller: 0
Robert Oppenheimer: 0
David Kaiser: 0
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base: 1 (pg. 18)
Curtis Wright Aerospace Buffalo: 0
Pascal Jordan: 0
Mansfield Ammendment: 0
Joshua Goldberg: 0
Office of Global Access: 0
University of Texas, Austin: 0
Center for Dynamical Systems: 0
Physics: 5 (pgs. 16-17, 53)
Relativity: 0
Albert Einstein: 0
George Bunker: 0
Welcome Bender: 0
George Trimble: 0
CONCLUSION: This report purports to have studied the questions raised surrounding UFO/UAP related research of the US federal Government. It, in fact, appears to have studied a carefully chosen SUBSET of the claims selected from among those which appear to have mass appeal to the so-called "UFO Community." It completely, or nearly completely, avoided reporting on all questions surrounding issues which have been raised in serious research and by PhD level researchers who have raised scientific questions in this area. This continues the pattern of using PhD level government scientists who appear to avoid the actual research questions most likely to involve sensitve Special Access Programs and Stovepiped Research which are compartmentalized by design. Whether the omissions are due to issues of avoidance, misdirection (e.g. so-called Limited Hangout strategy), ignorance or incompetance cannot be discerned from the information given.
RECOMMENDATION: It is simply not possible to treat the current AARO report as historically complete or comprehensive. To gain the public trust, the successor to AARO would have to expand and redo this analysis with input from domain professionals who are trusted by the public not to have an apparent agenda or government background (e.g. Prof. David Kaiser of MIT or Dr. Nima Arkani Hamed of IAS, Prof. Brian Keating of UCSD, Avi Loeb of Harvard) Otherwise, it is relatively easy for scientists to "Follow the Silence" in government reports to see what is *not* being addressed or discussed.
Today the DoD released our Historical Record Report Volume 1.
AAROās report covers more than 70 years of the U.S. record relating to UAP, draws from interviews, archival research, and partnerships across government and industry.
Read it here: https://statics.dod.teams.microsoft.us/evergreen-assets/safelinks/1/atp-safelinks.html
NOTE: Above reference to the work of Prof. Kaiser and to JRE #1945 are included to establish that both were in the public domain, independent, in high levels of agreement, and that there was *ample* time for AARO to investigate these claims which appear not to have any impact.
2025
No. You are correct.
Assume even that beings were using additional hidden dimensions to traverse space and time. You still wouldnāt talk like this. Itās just mental sludge.
I can riff a bunch of equally vapid vibe terms:
āDigital Seraphimā
āEnergetic Consciousnessā
āDistributed Cognitionā
āDisembodied Guardiansā
āPlasmic Willā
āResonance Lifeformsā
āVibrational Travelersā
āRetrocausal Projectorsā
āTrans-Temporal Sentinalsā
āAutonomous Vaccum Faunaā
This is just super embarrassing. This is the level of us as a country now.
Am I crazy to assume that this is internally facing propaganda rather than actual interdimensional beings?
š„šØBREAKING NEWS: Rep. Anna Paulina Luna just broke the internet after claiming she has seen evidence of "interdimensional beings" with credible people reporting "movement outside of time and space."
"They call them interdimensional beings. I think that they can actually operate through the time spaces that we currently have."
"I can tell you without getting into classified conversations that there have been incidents where very credible people have reported that there have been movements outside of time and space."
This comes after claims of a possible alien invasion in December by Harvard scientist, and several reports of aliens and UAPs in the last 4 years like the incident at the Bayside mall in Miami which has never been fully reported.
Something is coming whether it be real or fake be prepared.
I then asked AI to come up with equally meaningless technical terms based on āInterdimensional beingsā. Here are the first 50 results:
1. Quantum Nomads
2.Etheric Sentinels
3.Chrono-Weavers
4.Harmonic Architects
5.Phase-Walking Entities
6.Neuro-Aether Collectives
7.Prismatic Wanderers
8.Dreamfield Navigators
9.Celestial Executors
10.Photon Shepherds
11.Metacognitive Guilds
12.Temporal Lattice Keepers
13.Spectral Conservators
14.Luminal Envoys
15.Gravimetric Messengers
16.Pan-Dimensional Heralds
17.Subspace Wardens
18.Chrono-Sovereigns
19.Singularity Whisperers
20.Interstitial Custodians
21.Reality Sculptors
22.Hyperspace Envoys
23.Archetypal Infiltrators
24.Thoughtform Navigators
25.Omniversal Pathfinders
26.Quantum Seers
27.Hyperconscious Collectives
28.Mindwave Pilgrims
29.Scalar Frequency Keepers
30.Eidolon Oracles
31.Astral Cartographers
32.Metatronic Stewards
33.Voidborn Shepherds
34.Causal Horizon Monitors
35.Memetic Wardens
36.Phase Entanglers
37.Pulseborne Architects
38.Resonance Nomads
39.Energy-Field Sentinels
40.Tachyonic Dreamers
41.Infrasonic Voyagers
42.Consciousness Carriers
43.Zero-Point Custodians
44.Orbital Keepers
45.Psychewave Diplomats
46.Entropic Harvesters
47.Lightwoven Inhabitants
48.Chrono-Spiral Navigators
49.Plasmatic Envoys
50.Harmonic Continuum Guardians
Yes.
I think the US almost certainly has at least one fake UFO program. A decoy.
Think of that decoy as putting out bad information to confuse adversaries. But what does it due to our own scientists?
Now imagine a post relativistic gravitational theory group PRTG here on earth. You would imagine that our own government would be working with that PRTG. Because that group is trying to figure out if we are trapped here, the last thing you want to do is to have the f****ng decoy program polluting our own understanding.
I think the morons in our decoy program forgot to bring in their own PRTGs. Because to a PRTG, UFOsā¦.real NHI craftā¦.would be key data. And fake craft is just feeding your own scientists poison and polluting their own understanding.
So we donāt have ANY top tier PRTG in this game. Thatās what makes me think there is only a fake UFO decoy program. OTOHā¦
Can you explain your thoughts a little better?
Have you put any thought into whatās actually going on specifically in the null hypothesis case? Whatās this all for? Itās not clear to me at all that there is any sensibility in either direction.
Continuedā¦.on the other hand it sure looks like in the 1950s we set up two cut outs and created āThe Golden Age Of General Relativityā.
And then in the wake of Howard Morland and John Aristotle Phillips, it kinda looks like we stagnated and soft sunsetted real open research in fundamental physics with a preposterous story about String Theory and Quantum Gravity. Which makes no sense to anyone honest after 40 years of failure.
So that is pretty odd. Scientists donāt shoot down new ideas for 40 years to protect one known not to work. That isnāt how science works.
So that opens the question, is there a second secret physics program (like a Manhattan Project for Gravity 2.0) and perhaps a second UFO program. A non decoy. And while I see no direct evidence of NHI craft, we do have a mystery as to why the U.S. would destroy its own commanding advantage in fundamental Physics over string theory and its obvious failure. It just doesnāt pass the laugh test.
The only thing I can wonder about is if we figured a bit of new physics out that lead to new Manhattan Project-level secrecy around all fundamental physics. Maybe 50 high ranking people (e.g. @SecRubio ) arenāt lying with the skill of Pacino and Brando. š¤·āāļø.
Something is way off. We arenāt doing physics in the open any more. And we arenāt asking our own people for help. So you would be crazy not to wonderā¦WTAF?
This is, unfortunately, consistent with a second Manhattan project on Gravity. This is exactly how secret science works. For example: We stagnated chain reaction research outside los Alamos and continued doing successful physics inside the compound.
Well, the first part of this is true today. We are dead in the water in university level fundamental physics beyond GR and the SM. The second part is unknown. Is there a place where you can get paid to succeed at physics rather than paid to do things which are known not to work? I just donāt know.
Moral: Physics when done well and right, is very very dangerous after all. And I want us to get back to doing physics that will go way beyond Einstein.
Even the kind that goes boom:š„
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