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|content=The rest of us for markets, democracy, liberal values, modest social safety nets, tolerance, content of character over color of skin, due process, free speech, etc. have to go back to defeating our loyal friends across the aisle & squashing newly emboldened neo-fascists. #Enough
|content=The rest of us for markets, democracy, liberal values, modest social safety nets, tolerance, content of character over color of skin, due process, [[Free Speech|free speech]], etc. have to go back to defeating our loyal friends across the aisle & squashing newly emboldened neo-fascists. #Enough
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|content=I tried to engage before & do very little of this (e.g. Blocking or ignoring). But the danger to named individuals from the Platform, the bots, governments, law and mobs has nothing to do with free speech. It has to do with a tilted playing field encouraging personal destruction.
|content=I tried to engage before & do very little of this (e.g. Blocking or ignoring). But the danger to named individuals from the Platform, the bots, governments, law and mobs has nothing to do with [[Free Speech|free speech]]. It has to do with a tilted playing field encouraging personal destruction.
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|content=Why is @antihero_kate gone and @uberfeminist still here? '''Is cruelty about someone’s deceased sibling the free speech we defend while we chill meaningful speech?'''
|content=Why is @antihero_kate gone and @uberfeminist still here? '''Is cruelty about someone’s deceased sibling the [[Free Speech|free speech]] we defend while we chill meaningful speech?'''


Is that account a paid for troll? Is that an instituon? Someone who needs help with trauma? What is it? Why anonymous?|thread=
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|content=If you want to fight that with me, I’m in. But it requires more subtlety. And for such a simple point, this is getting needlessly tedious. I think I’ve been clear enough that I don’t need to come back to this. Happy to read what you want to say of course.
 
All best,</br>
Eric
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|content=I reached some kind of an unexpected impasse with many people I admire now condescending to me. And it’s pissing me off.
 
Gad et. al.: You’ve chosen a bad tactic. “Hijab is a symbol of oppression.” is too simplistic. Are you winning hearts and minds with this? No. You’re losing.
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|content=Many of you have picked bad terms for a set of arguments:
 
Ethnonationalism</br>
Identity Politics</br>
[[Free Speech|Free Speech Absolutism]]</br>
Political Correctness</br>
Rationality v Bullshit</br>
Tribalism
 
Okay. Why aren’t they winning? Because they‘re meretricious framings, way too simplistic and thus losers.
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|content=I‘m on the same side of many if not all of these points with you but with a massive disagreement in tactics. If you frame one issue like FGM too simplistically you‘re going to get hit with the obvious point about male circumscision. Against tribalism? You chase away all cultures.
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|content=This saddles many of us w/ a set of “convenience products” that don’t really work. Very simple bumper sticker ideas that are incredibly powerful rhetorically...right up until they backfire due to:
 
A) Exceptions invalidating the rule</br>
B) Inconsistency in application
 
So they lose.
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|content=Hijab is a simple symbol of oppression? What about churches that ask us to cover before entering or online Jewish modesty clothing retailers. Don’t like Political Correctness? Then why do you say “The N-word” but joke about other groups. Against “identity politics”? In Tibet too?
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|content=If you want the spirit of [[Free Speech|free speech absolutism]] you have to admit to some restrictions or you lose [[Free Speech|free speech]] due to the egregious corner cases you will encounter. I don’t want to see swastikas, but I have to admit they crop up in cultural non-Nazi contexts. That’s reality.
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|content=Normally I’ve bitten my tongue for years. I feel like I got here late to a party and everyone had chosen the terms of engagement. But those don’t work because they are too open to charges of bias when their radical simplicity doesn’t capture the counter examples easily produced.
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|content=Snakes are tetrapods yet don’t seem to have 4 limbs. Echidna lay eggs but are clearly mammals. These aren’t nitpicks. They point out that the theories “Tetrapods are defined by having 4 external limbs.” Or “Mammals are furry and give live birth.” are simply *unsalvageably* wrong.
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|content=You are an evolutionary guy Gad. So presumably I don’t have to tell you You don’t get to define tetrapods by how many limbs most have and then just claim that there are exceptions! That’s bad theory. Same with Hijab. It *can* be a symbol of oppression. It may *generally* be one!!
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|content=But the theory is off. You open yourself up to the obvious line of attack “My friend Aisha just did X,Y,Z and she loves being a Hijabi.” I’m thinking of such a person in my past right now. Counter examples are meaningful for good reason. They aren’t an ‘epsilon’ term in any way.
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|content=A proper theory of oppression by Islamic veiling and covering must take into account:
 
Christian Covering</br>
Jewish Orthodox Modesty-wear</br>
Coercion both explicit and implicit</br>
Brainwashing vs Projection</br>
Niqab vs Headscarves</br>
Etc.
 
and no one wants to do it. So it gets oversimplified.
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|content=So forgive me. I still think we‘re fighting the same BS with veiling &amp; covering as control &amp; subjugation, but we are *tactically* divided, as we are on almost all the terms of art in this. You‘re going to continue to get hounded over the corner cases because of oversimplifying.
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|content=And please don’t condesend to me. The great danger with Islam today isn’t the Hijab. Or any of a host or thorny issues. It’s that forms of Islam together with North Korea are among the few potent remaining totalizing forces left in the 🌎. It’s [[Totalizing Ideologies|*totalizing*]] that must be fought.
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|content=I would be against [[Totalizing Ideologies|World totalitarian Judaism]] if it existed. But it does not. I was against [[Totalizing Ideologies|imperial totalitarian communism]], but I don’t see much left. If there were [[Totalizing Ideologies|totalitarian Prius owners]] I’d be opposed to them. I’d much rather fight [[Totalizing Ideologies|totalizing beliefs]] than all these proxies.
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|content=My problems with Islam all stem from its desire to provide way way too many answers and entertain too few questions from outside. Honor killings, FGM, religious message killings, etc are coming from a [[Totalizing Ideologies|totalizing cultural and belief system]].
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|content=[p.s. thanks for engaging. Civility takes courage at the moment. Respect, brother.]
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|content=Michael, I respectfully disagree. We could add those who voted for the PATRIOT act, worked for censorious tech platforms, closed their eyes to H1B worker replacement, supported the “WMD” Iraq war, etc.
 
I did none of those things, but I’ve done plenty of things I’d take back.
https://x.com/mbsimon/status/1324845072697987075
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|content=Look, the most important thing is we either have a country or we don’t. I’m not going to lie: I didn’t like this presidency, but I believe we the Democrats, and not the republicans, elected him. We are also the bad guys for telling everyone to fall in line...or watch their step.
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|content=Join me in not blacklisting anyone who didn’t break our laws and offering the same respect I demand they show us when I do their conservative shows.
 
They fear us &amp; our wide eyed Utopianism more than they hate us. They fear the left is just crazy enough to lead us into violence.
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|content=I want to signal the opposite: “We the Left had blacklists inflicted on us. We came back w [[Free Speech|‘The Free Speech Movement’]]. We will not hunt or intimidate those who have historically used illiberal tools against us.”
 
Two Words: Join me.
 
My Heart’s open: We don’t blacklist Americans.
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|content=These concepts are being used to control our thoughts, bias our conversations, chill our speech even when it is not endangering anyone and simply discussing and weighing branches of *legitimate* decision trees of possibilities that Tech now insists we assign zero weight.
 
Sorry..
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|content=“Here at X we are fully committed to [[Free Speech|free speech]]. The diversity of ideas is in fact the very reason this company was founded. At the same time, we at X strive for diversity inclusion so that all users on our platform may have an optimal user experience sharing perspectives.”
https://x.com/wheeldonkey/status/1331678993477627904
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|content=“We at X are proud of our commitment to both Trust and Safety. That is why we have worked with thought leaders from across a diverse group of authoritative &amp; respected institutions to formulate dynamic Terms of Service to constantly adapt to our mission of diversity &amp; inclusion.”
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|content=“We believe that through a process we call “Dynamic Best Practices” our adaptive policies meet the needs of all our users. That is why we launched our awareness campaign [[Free Speech|“Free Speech without Hate Speech”]] with leading academics to share their research in advising our every move.”
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|content=“Of course it is never possible to please all users and our space is actually more ferociously competitive than our critics realize. However rather than fear competition, at X we welcome it and encourage those who think that this can be done better to launch their own companies.”
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|content=“In fact many don’t realize that we actually work *with* our competitors across platforms, and even with our regulators to make sure that we can learn from their experiences and share our knowledge. Because in the end, at X we know that business is about serving you, the people.”
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|content=Now all that doesn’t come from a company X. But it comes from the same place from which all the mindless corporate tech drivel they all produce originates. And all I had to do was get myself in the right frame of mind to write it. So I sat on a porcelain throne, and there it was.
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|content=This is undoubtedly coming from multiple sources. Some of it is common pressures producing common intellectually incoherent responses. But other parts of this are likely coming from quiet “Working Groups” with report titles like “Coordinating Response to Hate Speech &amp; Fake News.”
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|content=Of course there is no problem with protecting individuals from harm and abuse. The issue is that once Tech defines Fake News, Diversity, Inclusion, Equity, Hate Speech, etc to include methods making reality illegal, *any* inconvenient user can be removed, down ranked &amp; deboosted.
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