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Woit is an excellent example of someone who was told he was barren when he was a pure critic...only to then be told he was a self-promoter when he had something to say about the structure bundle of CP^3 being potentially the low energy electro strong SU(3)xU(1) and the oddity of the chirality of the weak force being either fully on or off rather than merely conjugate V vs \bar{V}.
Woit is an excellent example of someone who was told he was barren when he was a pure critic...only to then be told he was a self-promoter when he had something to say about the structure bundle of CP^3 being potentially the low energy electro strong SU(3)xU(1) and the oddity of the chirality of the weak force being either fully on or off rather than merely conjugate V vs \bar{V}.


It's time to stop pretending this is about physics. It's about protecting a 4 decade MASSIVE screw up pretending that there is only one game in town.
It's time to stop pretending this is about physics. It's about protecting a 4 decade MASSIVE screw up pretending that there is [[The Only Game in Town|only one game in town]].
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Senior physicists
Senior physicists


The “Only Game in Town!” monopoly
[[The Only Game in Town|The “Only Game in Town!” monopoly]]


@pmarca’s WH convo
@pmarca’s WH convo
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The issue is the [[The Only Game in Town|“String Theory is the only game in town”]] which appears designed to destroy fundamental physics itself. If you have spent 40 years bragging and failing, wouldn’t you at least ask “Doesn’t anyone have any other ideas?” before finally going over the edge of the cliff?  
The issue is the [[The Only Game in Town|“String Theory is the only game in town”]] which appears designed to destroy fundamental physics itself. If you have spent 40 years bragging and failing, wouldn’t you at least ask “Doesn’t anyone have any other ideas?” before finally going over the edge of the cliff?  


<nowiki>*</nowiki>Absolutely* not. And that tells you that string theory isn’t a theory. It’s some kind of a suicide pact. Better that the field die than we ask “What if the string theorists were always wrong including pronouncements about [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and against other theorists? What if ‘the only game in town’ was always an obviously totally unethical anti-scientific move to destroy and poison the market place of ideas?”
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Absolutely* not. And that tells you that string theory isn’t a theory. It’s some kind of a suicide pact. Better that the field die than we ask “What if the string theorists were always wrong including pronouncements about [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and against other theorists? What if [[The Only Game in Town|‘the only game in town’]] was always an obviously totally unethical anti-scientific move to destroy and poison the market place of ideas?”


cc: @bgreene.
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|content=Here is one in theoretical physics dear @grok.
|content=Here is one in theoretical physics dear @grok.


In order to justify the failure that is [[Quantum Gravity]] research and its claim to be the only game in town. All physicists are expected to parrot a party line:  
In order to justify the failure that is [[Quantum Gravity]] research and its claim to be [[The Only Game in Town|the only game in town]]. All physicists are expected to parrot a party line:  


“Our two greatest theories are [[General Relativity]] which dominates in the very large, and the Standard Model which dominates in the world of the very small. Unfortunately, they are incompatible because one is a quantum theory while the other is merely classical. That is why, for the last 100 years, a theory of [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity (QG)]] has been seen as the holy grail of theoretical physics. Unfortunately despite a century of effort, no one has shown exactly how to quantize gravity. But quantizing gravity must occur because nature cannot be half classical and half quantum. So the ultimate theory of QG remains physics’ top priority.”
“Our two greatest theories are [[General Relativity]] which dominates in the very large, and the Standard Model which dominates in the world of the very small. Unfortunately, they are incompatible because one is a quantum theory while the other is merely classical. That is why, for the last 100 years, a theory of [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity (QG)]] has been seen as the holy grail of theoretical physics. Unfortunately despite a century of effort, no one has shown exactly how to quantize gravity. But quantizing gravity must occur because nature cannot be half classical and half quantum. So the ultimate theory of QG remains physics’ top priority.”
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VI) Adults who would never discuss the Tooth Fairy in public should not discuss alien equivalents of the Tooth Fairy. Alien life and higher dimensions are both super serious subjects to me. And they would be too you too if this wasn’t made into a cheap farce. Space opera is just dumping cognitive sludge in the middle of a central scientific question. And I don’t take kindly to it.  
VI) Adults who would never discuss the Tooth Fairy in public should not discuss alien equivalents of the Tooth Fairy. Alien life and higher dimensions are both super serious subjects to me. And they would be too you too if this wasn’t made into a cheap farce. Space opera is just dumping cognitive sludge in the middle of a central scientific question. And I don’t take kindly to it.  


VII) I personally believe there are 4+6=10 =(d**2 + d)/2 for d=1+3 additional dimensions available for travel. But that would make **US**
.humans
.just as interdimensional as alien life. And we don’t evaluate any such ideas for our own travel. We just run out the clock listening to decades of the same 20 Octogenarians and Septuagenarians discussing how they are going to solve [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] when they grow up. And we let them destroy all competitors so they can take down the field of theoretical physics and die in piece pretending they were the “Only Game In Town”. Which is total pure unadulterated anti-scientific bullshit. Think about it.  
VII) I personally believe there are 4+6=10 =(d**2 + d)/2 for d=1+3 additional dimensions available for travel. But that would make **US**
.humans
.just as interdimensional as alien life. And we don’t evaluate any such ideas for our own travel. We just run out the clock listening to decades of the same 20 Octogenarians and Septuagenarians discussing how they are going to solve [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] when they grow up. And we let them destroy all competitors so they can take down the field of theoretical physics and die in piece pretending they were the [[The Only Game in Town|“Only Game In Town”]]. Which is total pure unadulterated anti-scientific bullshit. Think about it.  


VIII) Nobody but nobody is this dumb. Not even the government on its worst day. This is national security cognitive sludge being dumped into science. We are 40+ years into a string theory fairy tale about [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] without asking “Is this all bullshit?”
VIII) Nobody but nobody is this dumb. Not even the government on its worst day. This is national security cognitive sludge being dumped into science. We are 40+ years into a string theory fairy tale about [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] without asking “Is this all bullshit?”
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|content=Wow @grok. That was like just before [[String Theory]] took over, and the field suddenly veered to studying the “Only Game In Town”.  
|content=Wow @grok. That was like just before [[String Theory]] took over, and the field suddenly veered to studying the [[The Only Game in Town|“Only Game In Town”]].  


Sounds like the USG had a problem with a “Streisand Effect” before it was called that. Am I just wrong about this?
Sounds like the USG had a problem with a “Streisand Effect” before it was called that. Am I just wrong about this?
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