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[[File:Quantum-Gravity-is-the-blue-whale-in-physics'-linen-closet.jpg|thumb|''"Quantum Gravity is a 69 year long slow-motion suicide pact. Can we discuss it? No we cannot. That would require discussing its modern origins in 1953 and 1957.  It is, by now, too big to fail. It is not even the elephant in the room. It’s the blue whale in physics’ linen closet."'' ~ Eric Weinstein (Nov 7, 2022)<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1589644546920837120 November 7, 2022]</ref>]]


== On X ==
Eric Weinstein discusses [[Quantum Gravity|Quantum Gravity (QG)]] as a non-historical paradigm that emerged abruptly, induced stagnation in fundamental physics, and enforces false but unquestionable narratives, potentially tied to institutional or security motives. He contrasts it with alternatives like [[Theory of Geometric Unity|Geometric Unity (GU)]], emphasizing unification over quantization. Below is a breakdown organized thematically, drawing verbatim from his social media posts.
 
== Abrupt Emergence and Non-Historical Status ==
Weinstein repeatedly states that [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] is not a natural or longstanding goal but a sudden replacement for earlier pursuits like Unified Field Theory, lacking historical precedence.
 
* "There is an interesting story I don’t know well enough. Many will recall the phrase 'Unified Field Theory' as the hoped for ‘Theory of Everything.’ At some point this got replaced by [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] as the goal. Does anyone know the full story behind this? Was it ‘70s? And how?" (February 17, 2019).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1097020781987475457 February 17, 2019]</ref>
* [[Quantum Gravity|"Quantum Gravity]] is a 69 year long slow-motion suicide pact. Can we discuss it? No we cannot. That would require discussing its modern origins in 1953 and 1957. It is, by now, too big to fail. It is not even the elephant in the room. It’s the blue whale in physics’ linen closet." (November 7, 2022).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1589644546920837120 November 7, 2022]</ref>
* "[[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] is not the historical “Holy Grail” of physics as is currently claimed." (June 21, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1936556106927899919 June 21, 2025]</ref>
* "I don't think [Quantum Gravity] as it is practiced is a real research program. It is the obvious candidate for the 'inhibitor' that, when added to research, stagnated physics...and it didn't come out of some longstanding program from the birth of quantum mechanics. It came out of nowhere right before we stopped making progress on the Lagrangian of the real world." (June 12, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1932978908464623855 June 12, 2025]</ref>
* "There is a tell when listening to physics folks as to whether they’re captured by the 1984 Quantum Gravity virus. They either say: A) “General Relativity has to be reconciled with the Standard Model.” or B) “[[General Relativity]] has to be reconciled with Quantum Theory.”" (October 30, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1983883266920837120 October 30, 2025]</ref>
* "I would point you to my favorite documents. Gell-Mann’s 1983 Keynote from Shelter Island II is the best of all because it is RIGHT before the GS anomaly cancellation. [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] is not one of the leading 4 problems at the time. Clearly... Witten’s 1986 'Physics and Geometry' address to the ICM. It is clear that the quantum is not even in the top 3 insights of fundamental physics as he sees it. It’s all classical field theory. And that is Ed. This [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] focus titrated by energy level is a very late focus. It’s a very Ken Wilson/[[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] centric view of the [[Standard Model|SM]]." (November 2, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1985096216920837120 November 2, 2025]</ref>
 
He ties this to post-Manhattan Project changes: "We took whole areas of physics off line after the Manhattan project and that was *NOT* limited to just the Nuclear Physics of nuclear warheads" (June 12, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1932978911018954943 June 12, 2025]</ref>
* "CLAIM: These FAKE and REAL programs will keep going and extend to [[The Golden Age of General Relativity|'The Golden Age of General Relativity']]." (June 12, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1932978913602584840 June 12, 2025]</ref>
 
== QG as a Paralyzing and Stagnating Force ==
Weinstein describes QG as inducing "permanent paralytic failure," turning physics into unfailing "toy models" and causing 50-year stagnation.
 
* "Instantly stop all progress in the world’s most successful scientific community using only two words inducing permanent paralytic failure that cannot be questioned. I’ll go first: [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]]." (November 7, 2022).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1589640516920837120 November 7, 2022]</ref>
* "By mumbling [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] every 2 minutes as a mantra and recasting actual High Energy Physics as “Phenomenology” they mis-educated an entire generation to think “toy physics” was real physics. It’s unbelievable. Toy physics is real geometry & topology. But it ain’t physics." (April 22, 2021).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1385263871347159044 April 22, 2021]</ref>
* "Real physics: A) Works with dimension 4. B) Works with SU(3)xSU(2)xU(1). C) Uses observed quantum numbers. D) Accepts Lorentzian Signature. E) Focuses on 3 Generation. There is *Nothing* wrong with toy models now and then. But we are talking *entire careers* playing with toys." (April 22, 2021).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1385263872240537604 April 22, 2021]</ref>
* "We tell people who are basically mathematicians that they’re physicists. Well, they aren’t. Physicists say things about the world. And those things *need* to be potentially wrong to qualify as physics. We have a culture of people who can’t *afford* error. So they just do math." (April 22, 2021).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1385263873117155328 April 22, 2021]</ref>
* "No theory lead advance in fundamental physics for almost 50 years, yet no soul searching about who lost physics?? Are we kidding?" (April 22, 2021).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1385263864481124360 April 22, 2021]</ref>
* "Physics in 1980: “I’m trying to grasp why nature has 3 generations of chiral fermions with SU(3)xSU(2)xU(1) internal symmetry.” Physics Today: “Remind me again what the internal quantum numbers are? I do [quantum gravity] so it’s not something I’ve worked with since my QFT class.”" (August 24, 2022).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1562460746920497153 August 24, 2022]</ref>
* "To put it bluntly, it is not just that [[Quantum Gravity]] doesn't work. It's that you can't comfortably question Quatnum Gravity because the failed investment is on a scale that I think is difficult for us to contemplate. It includes [StringTheory], Loop Quantum Gravity, AdS/CFT etc." (February 2, 2023).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1621054186920837120 February 2, 2023]</ref>
* "Next Year, will be 40 years of failure for modern [[String Theory|StringTheory]] to ship a product. To be clear and STEELMAN the argument for strings, it *is* a remarkable framework. It is REAL math. It teaches us things no other framework has. But, it *destroyed* the culture of honest physics." (February 2, 2023).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1621054190691975168 February 2, 2023]</ref>
* "We spent almost 80% of this time being told that ST was a 'Piece of 21st Century Physics that fell into the 20th Century.' Uh. Bullshit. That is an excuse. It's not clear that it's physics at all. It's a 'Failed piece of 20th Century Physics still hanging around in the 21stC'." (February 2, 2023).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1621054193426661376 February 2, 2023]</ref>
* "We need to spend perhaps 5yrs asking 'If the leaders have not succeeded for FIVE DECADES in moving beyond the [Standard Model], then why are they leading this field and directing the resources, research, and path forward? What if we listened to those who the leadership push aside?'" (February 2, 2023).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1621054201957847040 February 2, 2023]</ref>
* "And then the massive massive massive screw up was allowing the totalizing madness of [“Quantum Gravity”] to take over HEP-TH as if it were [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The Only Game In Town”]] and letting its leadership brainwash the up and coming talent into believing that there was one true path. Totally insane." (October 7, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1975659241781575728 October 7, 2025]</ref>
 
He calls for reforms: "I’d propose total reassessment of the National Physics program. Much greater autonomy for theorists. *Much* higher salaries. Much greater *diversity* of approaches. More high precision work. Fewer graduate programs. Physics = economic/security priority. Admit [[String Theory|String Thy]] failure." (April 22, 2021).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1385263862698577922 April 22, 2021]</ref>
 
== Ties to String Theory and Enforced Monopoly ==
Weinstein equates QG with String Theory (ST), criticizing its culture for rewriting standards, inability to fail, and "The Only Game in Town" (TOGIT) monopoly.
 
* "What has string theory done to become the poster child of failed physics? It hasn’t even failed... because it can’t fail. So far as I can see, it can never fail. In the minds of the faithful, It’s unable to fail because it *has* to be the way forward." (August 23, 2022).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1562121666924504705 August 23, 2022]</ref>
* "A) High energy physics of real particles became the no-energy physics of toy models. B) Quantizing Gravity was substituted for unification or extension of the Standard model. C) Other research programs were obliterated because ST claimed it had it all rapped up. D) Hype won. E) Focus shifted to mathematical structure of abstract field/[[String Theory|String/M theory]]. Not our particular world’s choice of thy. F) Standards of scientific progress were rewritten to disguise failure. G) Differential application of standards became the norm. It ended physics culture." (August 24, 2022).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1562463292345372672 August 24, 2022]</ref>
* "[String Theory] isn’t the problem. String culture is poisonous to science. String theory, like love, means never having to say your sorry. Or mistaken." (August 24, 2022).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1562465038962610178 August 24, 2022]</ref>
* "The issue is the “String Theory is the only game in town” which appears designed to destroy fundamental physics itself... The defining feature of String Theory is that it would rather fundamental physics die than that String Theory face healthy adult rivals that were not maimed, crippled, stolen, or murdered in their cribs." (April 15, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1912032953896673603 April 15, 2025]</ref>
* "The appearance of [[String Theory|String-Theory/M-theory]] as [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The Only Game in Town” (TOGIT)]] has no precedence... The rivals never got heard." (August 16, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1956769068188594232 August 16, 2025]</ref>
* "Congratulations to: @thebadstats @daveexplains @GurusPod @IAmTimNguyen / @Google @Samuel_Gregson @C_Kavanagh @ArthurCDent @kagankans / @WSJ You just showed the world why Quantum Gravity/StringTheory/M-Theory is “The Only Game in Town”: Group Bullying * kills* Scientific Dissent" (September 17, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1968365361382002922 September 17, 2025]</ref>
* "Right Freeway: GR and SM must be harmonized. Wrong Exit: Catastrophic leadership decisions. “Gravity must be quantized and only String Theory and M-Theory can do it. Convert or perish! All mere mortals stand back. We will have this wrapped up in 10 years!! Give us all resources and young talent now.”" (October 7, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1975659241781575728 October 7, 2025]</ref>
 
In debates: "GUTs are a good test case. I believe you are in error going after Beauty when it comes to Grand Unified Theory. Your critique to Neil Degrasse Tyson recently applied to Georgi and Glashow Basic SU(5)…but not to Pati-Salaam SU(4) x SU(2) x SU(2) for example." (November 7, 2022).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1589668086921473408 November 7, 2022]</ref>
 
== Institutional, Ethical, and Security Aspects ==
Weinstein speculates [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] as a "mass delusion" or construct to suppress dangerous physics, involving ethical issues and "Managed Reality."
 
* "The [[Quantum Gravity|Q-Gravity Mass Delusion]] is quite different in character. It is highly specific in its effect. It is tied to all sorts of weirdness involving top physics and math people, bizarre funders, forgotten research institutes, aerospace companies, post Manhattan Project government secrecy, the golden age of General Relativity and…words fail me…outright quackery." (November 7, 2022).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1589666446920837120 November 7, 2022]</ref>
* "What I do wonder about is whether the U.S. government is blocking all public university fundamental physics preemptively with [quantum gravity]…while likely *failing* at it in secret (e.g. in national labs) as well." (June 22, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1936975226923150562 June 22, 2025]</ref>
* "We may be faking a [[Quantum Gravity]] revolution... We may be lying that all the competitors to String theory are all bad science or PseudoScience." (June 23, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1937032792971612619 June 23, 2025]</ref>
* "No researcher can afford to lose access to the arXiv. And no one talking openly about the actual [[Quantum Gravity]] mass delusion can have access to the journals & arXIv. You cannot challenge the QG narrative from the inside; its achievement is that it finally made physics *safe*." (June 3, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1930004307732247023 June 3, 2025]</ref>
* "We have a [[Quantum Gravity]] narrative... It’s all one thing that cannot be named: National Interest “[[Managed Reality TM|Managed Reality]].”" (July 5, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1941522174428565613 July 5, 2025]</ref>
* "[[Quantum Gravity]] has been a catastrophe... And in all cases you lose your standing in the community for saying the obvious." (September 25, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1971105526920837120 September 25, 2025]</ref>
* "The freedom of credentialed technical experts to dissent FROM WITHIN THE SYSTEM is at the heart of what is wrong with science..." (September 25, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1971105526920837120 September 25, 2025]</ref>
* "All physicists are expected to parrot a party line: 'Our two greatest theories are [[General Relativity]]... and the [[Standard Model]]... Unfortunately, they are incompatible because one is a quantum theory while the other is merely classical. That is why... a theory of [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity (QG)]] has been seen as the holy grail... But quantizing gravity must occur... So the ultimate theory of [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] remains physics’ top priority.' Or words to that effect. On the other hand this is wrong in many ways. But it can’t be discussed rationally because funding hinges on it. It’s a life or death fairy tale." (July 26, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1949075689174647063 July 26, 2025]</ref>
 
== Alternatives and Geometric Unity Contrasts ==
Weinstein positions GU as avoiding QG's issues, unifying via geometry without traditional quantization.
 
* "All 14 dimensions in GU are endogenous to Einstein's 4-dimensional spacetime <math>X^4</math>, derived from the bundle <math>Y^{14}(X^4)</math> of possible metric tensors." (Various posts; e.g., September 24, 2025).
* "GU rejects three generations of matter, positing two true generations plus one 'imposter.'... It predicts specific new particles... and makes explicit predictions (e.g., in section 11.3 on pages 52-53)." (September 24, 2025).
* "@seanmcarroll claims that there are no Lagrangian/Actions in GU. I put forward a DIRECT term for term comparison between his work and GU." (September 24, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1970936123791900806 September 24, 2025]</ref>
* "GR isn't a proper gauge theory because the Einstein projection <math>P_E(F_{\nabla})</math> doesn't commute with gauge actions, and spinors depend on the metric. GU liberates spinors from metrics, unifies curvatures <math>F</math>, and includes explicit Lagrangians." (Derived from multiple posts).
* "GU says: “That is eminently reasonable & sober, and is thus good solid science. Now get this defeatist mindset the hell away from me, go peer review each other, and hold my beer. Send lawyers, guns & money: let’s get back to American Cowboy science.”" (November 7, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1986803710551290047 November 7, 2025]</ref>
* He critiques QG's blocking: "The rivals never got heard." (August 16, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1956769068188594232 August 16, 2025]</ref>
 
In essence, Weinstein's posts depict QG as a "catastrophe" and "mass delusion" that "destroyed" physics culture, urging dissent and alternatives like GU. His language stresses its non-historical, paralyzing nature, with direct calls to question the enforced narrative.
 
 
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|content=There is an interesting story I don’t know well enough. Many will recall the phrase “Unified Field Theory” as the hoped for ‘Theory of Everything.’ At some point this got replaced by [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] as the goal. Does anyone know the full story behind this? Was it ‘70s? And how?
|content=END/ My bet is on Type III for a reason:
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Type I is not unified.</br>
Type II is possible, but appears to be unworkable in details.</br>
Type IV appears to lack sufficient guidance from Quantum theory to actually 'ship' despite consuming resources for yrs.</br>
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|content=Theoretical physicists have known since the 1930s that quantum gravity is necessary to bring order into the laws of nature, writes @skdh, but 80 years on, a solution isn’t anywhere in sight. http://bit.ly/break-gravity
|content=1/ "Theories of Everything": A Taxonomy.
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It is often said that "Theories-of-Everything are a dime a dozen" or that "All theoretical physicists worth their salt have several in a drawer." So far as I can tell, this is simply untrue. We've barely ever, if at all, seen candidates.
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|content=2/ The Escher Lithograph used in the first tweet points to the core of why TOEs are rare. A candidate TOE has to have some quality of "a fire that lights itself", which is difficult to think about beyond the equations that would instantiate it. Hence very few such theories exist.
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|content=Ok. This is a weird take. The reluctance to engage foundations of quantum mechanics stemmed from the fact that it was far less generative than research in quantum field thy for decades. When Standard Model QFT stagnated &amp; [[Quantum Gravity]] stumbled, the opportunity cost decreased.
|content=3/ I'm going to lean on the following dictionary of analogies:
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Physical Paper = Void
Pictured Canvas = Manifold and/or Einsteinian Spacetime
Ink=Matter &amp; non-gravitational force fields
Pencils = Pre-Conscious Lego (e.g. amino acids)
Hands = Consciousness
Paradox = Self-awareness
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|content=Shots fired! "Even Physicists Don’t Understand Quantum Mechanics. Worse, they don’t seem to want to understand it." -- me, in the New York Times @nytopinion #SomethingDeeply
|content=4/ In my taxonomy, Type I TOEs are our least ambitious but they best match our state of the world. They are distinguished by two *separate* sources of origin: one for the Canvas ([[General Relativity]] or [[Ed Witten|Witten's]] point i) ) &amp; one for the Ink ([[Standard Model]] or [[Ed Witten|Witten's]] point ii) ).
 
|timestamp=5:24 PM ¡ Jan 29, 2018
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/07/opinion/sunday/quantum-physics.html
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|content=Does anyone know what @elonmusk thinks about the state of fundamental physics, unification, [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and the impact any such progress may have on humanity’s chance for survival? I realize that I’ve never heard him connect fundamental physics progress to plans for humanity.
|content=5 Type II TOE's are more ambitious &amp; seek to derive the Ink from the choice of a mathematically distinguished Canvas that is anything but blank. My arch-nemesis @garrettlisi's theory is Type II. E8 is his 248 dimensional canvas. The intricacy is there, but doesn't quite match up.
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|content=One last thought. If there aren’t very compelling UAF revelations coming our way, I’d redirect our interest in aliens towards terrestrial physics done by humans. If there were such revelations, then I’d *still* look to physics before tech, as 👽 *still* implies new physics to me.
|content=6/ In Type III TOEs the ink is to be derived from canvas, but the canvas is essentially blank; it simply permits mathematics to happen (e.g. calculus and linear algebra). In such theories the ink has to be bootstrapped into existence. My lectures on [[Theory of Geometric Unity|Geometric Unity]] were Type III.
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|content=I’d propose total reassessment of the National Physics program.
|content=7/ Type IV TOE's try to change the question from Einstein's "Unified Field Theory." In [[String Theory|String Thy]], [[Quantum Gravity|"Quantizing Gravity"]] became substituted for "Unified Field." For this crowd, many are now betting that the canvas &amp; ink are both *emergent* from some deeper fundamental quantum thy.
 
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Much greater autonomy for theorists.</br>
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<nowiki>*</nowiki>Much* higher salaries.</br>
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Much greater *diversity* of approaches.</br>
More high precision work.</br>
Fewer graduate programs.</br>
Physics = economic/security priority.</br>
Admit [[String Theory|String Thy]] failure.
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|content=I see now you had a tweetstorm on this, rather than a single tweet. You're right, the physics of UFOs would be world changing, for good and for bad. What do you propose? Somehow keeping the tech within the US gov/military? Eventually it will leak out. Then what? No good solutions
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|content=We need to hire people who will upset the living hell out of the people doing the hiring.
|content=8/ Type V TOEs are of a type I've never been able to fully contemplate; they are without boundaries or origins. There is no "Why is there something rather than nothing" within them. That which is not forbidden is compelled into existence. Void creates canvas &amp; canvas begets void.
 
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|content=It’s time to stop listening to the same voices as if they hadn’t failed. This is a national priority, not a cult of personality for a STEM generation that had their time..and then ate their own young across every field. Is no one following what we did to destroy our own capacity?
|content=9/ Type VI TOEs begin with the hands. Religions are of this type. I pass over this in silence as they aren't scientific.
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|content=Or should we do yet more 2D Yang Mills on irrelevant groups in non physical signatures? Squarks/Sleptons? Ha!
|content=10/ I believe fundamental physics is stalled out because we are finally at the doorstep of a TOE and we haven't really bothered to think about what that would actually mean because we've never been here before. A final step need not look like any previous one. In fact, it cannot.
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Let’s say it clearly as everyone young is terrified to say it: the baby boomer theorists were successful as geometers while avoiding actual physics over entire careers.
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|content=By mumbling [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] every 2 minutes as a mantra and recasting actual High Energy Physics as “Phenomenology” they mis-educated an entire generation to think “toy physics” was real physics. It’s unbelievable.
|content=There is an interesting story I don’t know well enough. Many will recall the phrase “Unified Field Theory” as the hoped for ‘Theory of Everything.’ At some point this got replaced by [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] as the goal. Does anyone know the full story behind this? Was it ‘70s? And how?
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|content=Theoretical physicists have known since the 1930s that quantum gravity is necessary to bring order into the laws of nature, writes @skdh, but 80 years on, a solution isn’t anywhere in sight. http://bit.ly/break-gravity
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Toy physics is real geometry &amp; topology. But it ain’t physics.
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|content=Real physics:
|content=Ok. This is a weird take. The reluctance to engage foundations of quantum mechanics stemmed from the fact that it was far less generative than research in quantum field thy for decades. When Standard Model QFT stagnated &amp; [[Quantum Gravity]] stumbled, the opportunity cost decreased.
 
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|content=Shots fired! "Even Physicists Don’t Understand Quantum Mechanics. Worse, they don’t seem to want to understand it." -- me, in the New York Times @nytopinion #SomethingDeeply


There is *Nothing* wrong with toy models now and then. But we are talking *entire careers* playing with toys.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/07/opinion/sunday/quantum-physics.html
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|content=We tell people who are basically mathematicians that they’re physicists.
|content=Does anyone know what @elonmusk thinks about the state of fundamental physics, unification, [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and the impact any such progress may have on humanity’s chance for survival? I realize that I’ve never heard him connect fundamental physics progress to plans for humanity.
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Well, they aren’t. Physicists say things about the world. And those things *need* to be potentially wrong to qualify as physics.
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We have a culture of people who can’t *afford* error. So they just do math.
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|content=Also, to be a fundamental physicist you really should be telling us what we now have wrong. Every advance partially recovers the one before it but also invalidates it, telling us where to look for error. We’ve made hidden assumptions so you have to tell your elders they goofed.
|content=One last thought. If there aren’t very compelling UAF revelations coming our way, I’d redirect our interest in aliens towards terrestrial physics done by humans. If there were such revelations, then I’d *still* look to physics before tech, as 👽 *still* implies new physics to me.
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|content=Well, young people can’t say that to elders who hold their academic lives in the palms of their hands. [[FU Money|That’s why young/iconoclast physicists need FU salaries]].
|content=I’d propose total reassessment of the National Physics program.


Elder “You should work on AdS/CFT or ‘BH information’ if you want to get a job.”
Much greater autonomy for theorists.</br>
 
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Much* higher salaries.</br>
Young Colleague: “How does NO sound?”
Much greater *diversity* of approaches.</br>
|timestamp=4:06 PM ¡ Apr 22, 2021
More high precision work.</br>
Fewer graduate programs.</br>
Physics = economic/security priority.</br>
Admit [[ Theory|String Thy]] failure.
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|content=I see now you had a tweetstorm on this, rather than a single tweet. You're right, the physics of UFOs would be world changing, for good and for bad. What do you propose? Somehow keeping the tech within the US gov/military? Eventually it will leak out. Then what? No good solutions
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|content=When I say “There are only two true generations of Fermions.” I’m potentially wrong.
|content=We need to hire people who will upset the living hell out of the people doing the hiring.


When I listed quantum numbers of the remaining particles, I’m potentially wrong.
We need to put fundamental physics theory in receivership. No theory lead advance in fundamental physics for almost 50 years, yet no soul searching about who lost physics?? Are we kidding?
 
As when I claimed Pati-Salam is a maximal compact subgroup of the normal bundle of metrics.
 
That’s not a bug.
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|content=Yet you can’t do this in academic depts.
|content=It’s time to stop listening to the same voices as if they hadn’t failed. This is a national priority, not a cult of personality for a STEM generation that had their time..and then ate their own young across every field. Is no one following what we did to destroy our own capacity?
 
Moral: we destroyed our ability to self-police. Peer review won’t work. We need to go back to doing physics. What’s holding us back may not be physics but the political economy of academic labor, citation, reputation &amp; attribution.🙏
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=== 2022 ===
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|content=P.S. “It hasn’t even failed” because it can’t fail. So far as I can see, it can never fail. In the minds of the faithful, It’s unable to fail because it *has* to be the way forward. It’s hard to explain what’s wrong with that to the enlightened who see its infinite power &amp; glory.
|content=Or should we do yet more 2D Yang Mills on irrelevant groups in non physical signatures? Squarks/Sleptons? Ha!
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|content=What has string theory done to become the poster child of failed physics? It hasn’t even failed.
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|content=Physics in 1980: “I’m trying to grasp why nature has 3 generations of chiral fermions with SU(3)xSU(2)xU(1) internal symmetry.”
|content=By mumbling [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] every 2 minutes as a mantra and recasting actual High Energy Physics as “Phenomenology” they mis-educated an entire generation to think “toy physics” was real physics. It’s unbelievable.


Physics Today: “Remind me again what the internal quantum numbers are? I do [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] so it’s not something I’ve worked with since my QFT class.”
Toy physics is real geometry &amp; topology. But it ain’t physics.
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|content=A) High energy physics of real particles became the no-energy physics of toy models.
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B) [[Quantum Gravity|Quantizing Gravity]] was substituted for unification or extension of the Standard model.
A) Works with dimension 4.</br>
B) Works with SU(3)xSU(2)xU(1).</br>
C) Uses observed quantum numbers.</br>
D) Accepts Lorentzian Signature.</br>
E) Focuses on 3 Generation.


C) Other research programs were obliterated because ST claimed it had it all rapped up.
There is *Nothing* wrong with toy models now and then. But we are talking *entire careers* playing with toys.
 
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D) Hype won.
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|content=E) Focus shifted to mathematical structure of abstract field/String/M theory. Not our particular world’s choice of thy.
|content=We tell people who are basically mathematicians that they’re physicists.


F) Standards of scientific progress were rewritten to disguise failure.
Well, they aren’t. Physicists say things about the world. And those things *need* to be potentially wrong to qualify as physics.


G) Differential application of standards became the norm.
We have a culture of people who can’t *afford* error. So they just do math.
 
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It ended physics culture
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|content=String Theory isn’t the problem. String culture is poisonous to science.
|content=Also, to be a fundamental physicist you really should be telling us what we now have wrong. Every advance partially recovers the one before it but also invalidates it, telling us where to look for error. We’ve made hidden assumptions so you have to tell your elders they goofed.
 
|timestamp=4:06 PM ¡ Apr 22, 2021
String theory, like love, means never having to say your sorry. Or mistaken.
 
It’s the January 6 problem…but in science. But where the physics versions of Mike Pence often got fired for not going along. 🙏
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|content=<nowiki>*</nowiki>you’re
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|content=I met this rot first in [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]]
|content=When I say “There are only two true generations of Fermions.” I’m potentially wrong.


Then in “Neo-Classical Economics”
When I listed quantum numbers of the remaining particles, I’m potentially wrong.


Then in [[Labor Shortages|“Scientific Manpower Theory”]]
As when I claimed Pati-Salam is a maximal compact subgroup of the normal bundle of metrics.


To hear it in virology with MILLIONS dead? Totally mind blowing.
That’s not a bug.
 
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Take back science, by any means necessary. It is now a matter of survival:
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|content=@CurtM2566 You are being distracted then. Focus on [[Quantum Gravity]]. Entanglement is real.
|content=Yet you can’t do this in academic depts.
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|content=Instantly stop all progress in the world’s most successful scientific community using only two words inducing permanent paralytic failure that cannot be questioned.
|content=P.S. “It hasn’t even failed” because it can’t fail. So far as I can see, it can never fail. In the minds of the faithful, It’s unable to fail because it *has* to be the way forward. It’s hard to explain what’s wrong with that to the enlightened who see its infinite power &amp; glory.
 
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|content=Quantum Gravity is a 69 year long slow-motion suicide pact. Can we discuss it? No we cannot. That would require discussing its modern origins in 1953 and 1957.
|content=Physics in 1980: “I’m trying to grasp why nature has 3 generations of chiral fermions with SU(3)xSU(2)xU(1) internal symmetry.”


It is, by now, too big to fail. It is not even the elephant in the room. It’s the blue whale in physics’ linen closet.
Physics Today: “Remind me again what the internal quantum numbers are? I do [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] so it’s not something I’ve worked with since my QFT class.”
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|content=@dingobabyboy Subsumed by [[Quantum Gravity]].
|content=A) High energy physics of real particles became the no-energy physics of toy models.
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C) Other research programs were obliterated because ST claimed it had it all rapped up.


D) Hype won.
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|content=Beauty *is* a light in the darkness as experiment becomes less accessible. Perhaps our best one.  
|content=E) Focus shifted to mathematical structure of abstract field/[[String Theory|String/M theory]]. Not our particular world’s choice of thy.
 
F) Standards of scientific progress were rewritten to disguise failure.
 
G) Differential application of standards became the norm.


But not all lights in the darkness are natural daylight leading to the exits from Plato’s cave.
It ended physics culture
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|content=Instantly stop all progress in the world’s most successful scientific community using only two words inducing permanent paralytic failure that cannot be questioned.
|content=[[String Theory|String Theory]] isn’t the problem. [[String Theory|String culture]] is poisonous to science.
 
[[String Theory|String theory]], like love, means never having to say your sorry. Or mistaken.


I’ll go first: [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]]
It’s the January 6 problem…but in science. But where the physics versions of Mike Pence often got fired for not going along. 🙏
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|content=you're confusing the symptom with the disease
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|content=Hi Sabine!
|content=<nowiki>*</nowiki>you’re
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I don’t follow your statement here. How am I confused?
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|content=I just meant the cause of the problem is that theoretical physicists don't understand the responsibility they carry when experimental tests take longer and longer. That they got stuck on (a particular idea of) quantum gravity is the effect, but not the cause.
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|content=Hmm. As you know I’m historically a big supporter of your courage &amp; insight as critic. Perhaps you know something here that I do not as a nonphysicist. Open to that.
|content=I met this rot first in [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]]
 
Then in “Neo-Classical Economics”
 
Then in [[Labor Shortages|“Scientific Manpower Theory”]]
 
To hear it in virology with MILLIONS dead? Totally mind blowing.


But I disagree. The Q-Gravity Mass Delusion is quite different in character. It is highly specific in its effect.
Take back science, by any means necessary. It is now a matter of survival:
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|content=It is tied to all sorts of weirdness involving top physics and math people, bizarre funders, forgotten research institutes, aerospace companies, post Manhattan Project government secrecy, the golden age of General Relativity and…words fail me…outright quackery.
|content=@nathan_garner_ “The right side has been quantized. The left side is geometric, but has not yet been quantized. Ergo, the left side *must* also be quantized for equality with the right side to hold. QED.”
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70 years of abject failure are hard to sum up as you ask. But that is the core argument. https://t.co/HOE9sOgTmI
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|content=GUTs are a good test case. I believe you are in error going after Beauty when it comes to Grand Unified Theory. Your critique to Neil Degrasse Tyson recently applied to Georgi and Glashow Basic SU(5)…but not to Pati-Salaam SU(4) x SU(2) x SU(2) for example.
|content=Instantly stop all progress in the world’s most successful scientific community using only two words inducing permanent paralytic failure that cannot be questioned.
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I’ll go first: [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]]
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|content=I caution that you not fall into the trap of using Beauty as critique.  
|content=Quantum Gravity is a 69 year long slow-motion suicide pact. Can we discuss it? No we cannot. That would require discussing its modern origins in 1953 and 1957.


The abuse of Beauty in [[String Theory]] and [[Quantum Gravity]] more generally is valid as a target.  
It is, by now, too big to fail. It is not even the elephant in the room. It’s the blue whale in physics’ linen closet.
 
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Critiquing the use of beauty, by contrast is a suicide mission. And I don’t want to see you on it. As a friend.
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|content=@dingobabyboy Subsumed by [[Quantum Gravity]].
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|content=Could you sum up quantum gravity in two sentences? Idk what to believe because I’m not close to the physics, so what’s your take and why?
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|content=Note Added: many readers are making wild inferences about me talking about  flying fakes. I was very clear that this was about apparent crafts on the ground and in Hangars in Nevada, Ohio &amp; elsewhere.
|content=Beauty *is* a light in the darkness as experiment becomes less accessible. Perhaps our best one.  


Wild or bad inference patterns will get you blocked. I don’t have time. Thx.
But not all lights in the darkness are natural daylight leading to the exits from Plato’s cave.
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|content=One of the questions about UFOs that needs to be asked, and that I don’t hear much about, is: [[UAP=SAP|“Has the US government built fake UFOs?”]]
|content=Instantly stop all progress in the world’s most successful scientific community using only two words inducing permanent paralytic failure that cannot be questioned.


UFO people are so focused on whether there are real UFOs that they don’t push hard enough on this question.
I’ll go first: [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]]
 
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|content=When I first realized I was totally wrong about [[UAP|UFO/UAP]], I was shocked by how many folks have very similar stories about recovered crashes of very similar advanced vehicles.
|content=Hi Sabine!


It was mind blowing in 2 ways.
I don’t follow your statement here. How am I confused?
 
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|content=I just meant the cause of the problem is that theoretical physicists don't understand the responsibility they carry when experimental tests take longer and longer. That they got stuck on (a particular idea of) quantum gravity is the effect, but not the cause.
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|content=At this point I’m reasonably sure there are things that look like cool alien vehicle in some hangers. But I also grew up near Hollywood and remember super cool looking fake space cars visible off the Hollywood freeway.
|content=Hmm. As you know I’m historically a big supporter of your courage &amp; insight as critic. Perhaps you know something here that I do not as a nonphysicist. Open to that.


So: does anyone have stories of building fake UFOs for USG?
But I disagree. The Q-Gravity Mass Delusion is quite different in character. It is highly specific in its effect.
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|content=As you likely guessed, all the photos in this thread are fake military equipment. The airbase is totally fake. The dummy tanks are often inflated on the battlefield. The fake tank pieces are bolted on to real cars.
|content=It is tied to all sorts of weirdness involving top physics and math people, bizarre funders, forgotten research institutes, aerospace companies, post Manhattan Project government secrecy, [[The Golden Age of General Relativity|the golden age of General Relativity]] and…words fail me…outright quackery.
 
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Q: Did we build fake [[UAP|UFOs]] in places like Wright-Patterson AFB?
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|content=After studying this issue for 2yrs, I’m pretty convinced that there ARE wild looking vehicles in secret high security locations. But I also find NO SIGN OF OUR TOP PHYSICISTS. That is a huge red flag. If you had fake UFOs, you would have a puzzle for physics: What is the science?
|content=GUTs are a good test case. I believe you are in error going after Beauty when it comes to Grand Unified Theory. Your critique to Neil Degrasse Tyson recently applied to Georgi and Glashow Basic SU(5)…but not to Pati-Salaam SU(4) x SU(2) x SU(2) for example.
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|content=A true recovered interstellar craft would be like LHC or LIGO data: potential scientific data for physics beyond the [[Standard Model]] and [[General Relativity]].
|content=I caution that you not fall into the trap of using Beauty as critique.
 
The abuse of Beauty in [[String Theory]] and [[Quantum Gravity]] more generally is valid as a target.  


But if the crafts are fake, you would be crazy to let the A-team physicists near them. It would blow up in your face.
Critiquing the use of beauty, by contrast is a suicide mission. And I don’t want to see you on it. As a friend.
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|content=So my ignorant question is this: are there stories of building fake UFOs for sites in Nevada? Ohio? Are there fake retrieval teams? To what extent does faking military equipment spill into faking a UFOgasm for decades?
|content=Note Added: many readers are making wild inferences about me talking about  flying fakes. I was very clear that this was about apparent crafts on the ground and in Hangars in Nevada, Ohio &amp; elsewhere.


Because there are too many very similar craft stories.
Wild or bad inference patterns will get you blocked. I don’t have time. Thx.
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|content=So, at this point, the stories of craft kept at secret locations is most likely to be true in my opinion.  But it is also true that all the top physics talent that was working only semi-covertly on suspicious gravity projects left by the early 1970s. So any craft may be faked.
|content=One of the questions about UFOs that needs to be asked, and that I don’t hear much about, is: [[UAP=SAP|“Has the US government built fake UFOs?”]]
 
UFO people are so focused on whether there are real UFOs that they don’t push hard enough on this question.
 
Allow me to share a thought or two.
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|content=Either way, it’s a big deal. Everything changed in the early 70s. It’s impossible to say how much. The moment the Mansfield amendment came in, physics began to stagnate. And [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] destroyed our culture of science. We don’t even whisper about its “Anti-Gravity” origin.
|content=When I first realized I was totally wrong about [[UAP|UFO/UAP]], I was shocked by how many folks have very similar stories about recovered crashes of very similar advanced vehicles.
 
It was mind blowing in 2 ways.
 
A) We have real crashed vehicles.
And/Or
B) We built fake alien vehicles.
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|content=So to sum up: there do *appear* to be craft. But advanced armies all build dummy weapons.
|content=At this point I’m reasonably sure there are things that look like cool alien vehicle in some hangers. But I also grew up near Hollywood and remember super cool looking fake space cars visible off the Hollywood freeway.


Q1: Do we have any Fakes?</br>
So: does anyone have stories of building fake UFOs for USG?
Q2: Do we have only Fakes?</br>
Q3: Why do we talk almost  *exclusively* about Technology and not new Post-[[General Relativity|GR]]/[[Standard Model|SM]] science if there are *any* real interstellar craft?
 
🙏
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|content=As you likely guessed, all the photos in this thread are fake military equipment. The airbase is totally fake. The dummy tanks are often inflated on the battlefield. The fake tank pieces are bolted on to real cars.
 
Q: Did we build fake [[UAP|UFOs]] in places like Wright-Patterson AFB?
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|content=Other things that made/make me feel dumb:
|content=After studying this issue for 2yrs, I’m pretty convinced that there ARE wild looking vehicles in secret high security locations. But I also find NO SIGN OF OUR TOP PHYSICISTS. That is a huge red flag. If you had fake UFOs, you would have a puzzle for physics: What is the science?
 
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Bernie Madoff’s Returns</br>
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COVID origin questions = Racism</br>
Fauci</br>
Hilary’s Inevitability</br>
[[Quantum Gravity]]</br>
[[Jeffrey Epstein|Jeffrey Epstein’s CCY trading Claims]]</br>
[[CPI|CPI Construction]]</br>
UFO/UAP</br>
Chinese Graduate Students in STEM</br>
Open Borders</br>
Defund The Police</br>
DEI</br>
NIH
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|content=I don’t think there is any history of my ever commenting on @SBF_FTX.
|content=A true recovered interstellar craft would be like LHC or LIGO data: potential scientific data for physics beyond the [[Standard Model]] and [[General Relativity]].


It is because I never deeply understood what was going on when it was explained to me. I’m not going to lie: I felt dumb.
But if the crafts are fake, you would be crazy to let the A-team physicists near them. It would blow up in your face.
 
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|content=2) I'm really sorry, again, that we ended up here.
|content=So my ignorant question is this: are there stories of building fake UFOs for sites in Nevada? Ohio? Are there fake retrieval teams? To what extent does faking military equipment spill into faking a UFOgasm for decades?


Hopefully things can find a way to recover.  Hopefully this can bring some amount of transparency, trust, and governance to them.
Because there are too many very similar craft stories.
 
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Ultimately hopefully it can be better for customers.
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|content=So, at this point, the stories of craft kept at secret locations is most likely to be true in my opinion.  But it is also true that all the top physics talent that was working only semi-covertly on suspicious gravity projects left by the early 1970s. So any craft may be faked.
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|content=Not trying to be difficult, but this sounds like an enormous announcement from Google as I assume you mean it to be as a CEO....and I don't get what is really being claimed in testing [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]]. Thx.
|content=Either way, it’s a big deal. Everything changed in the early 70s. It’s impossible to say how much. The moment the [[Mansfield Amendment (1969)|Mansfield amendment]] came in, physics began to stagnate. And [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] destroyed our culture of science. We don’t even whisper about its “Anti-Gravity” origin.
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|content=What specific [[Quantum Gravity]] theory do you imagine has now been openned up for testing? Are these your words, and, if not, do you know what they mean?
|content=So to sum up: there do *appear* to be craft. But advanced armies all build dummy weapons.


I do not:
Q1: Do we have any Fakes?</br>
Q2: Do we have only Fakes?</br>
Q3: Why do we talk almost  *exclusively* about Technology and not new Post-[[General Relativity|GR]]/[[Standard Model|SM]] science if there are *any* real interstellar craft?


"dynamics expected from crossing a traversable wormhole, opening up possibilities to test quantum gravity theories."
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|content=In @Nature: making a traversable wormhole with a quantum computer. A qubit teleported across our Sycamore processor exhibits the dynamics expected from crossing a traversable wormhole, opening up possibilities to test quantum gravity theories. #GoogleAI  https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/11/making-traversable-wormhole-with.html
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|content=Thanks for the help. But I must regretfully decline.
|content=Other things that made/make me feel dumb:


The Lamb–Retherford experiment was experimental physics. And Solid State theory would not be fundamental physics.
Bernie Madoff’s Returns</br>
COVID origin questions = Racism</br>
Fauci</br>
Hilary’s Inevitability</br>
[[Quantum Gravity]]</br>
[[Jeffrey Epstein|Jeffrey Epstein’s CCY trading Claims]]</br>
[[CPI|CPI Construction]]</br>
UFO/UAP</br>
Chinese Graduate Students in STEM</br>
Open Borders</br>
Defund The Police</br>
DEI</br>
NIH
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|content=Snark is so much more fun when academics forget their own subjects and need to be reminded of their own history by...checks notes...a podcast host who's not a physicist.
|content=I don’t think there is any history of my ever commenting on @SBF_FTX.
 
It is because I never deeply understood what was going on when it was explained to me. I’m not going to lie: I felt dumb.


I'm guessing you have no idea of how the stagnation in [[Quantum Field Theory]] of 1928-47 was broken.
Moral: be very careful celebrating success that you don’t understand for its own sake.
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|content=From the birth of Dirac's Quantum Electrodynamics in 1928, the subject couldn't compute results because infinities infested the calculations. This went on for nearly 20 years as the aging leaders of the field proposed crazy fixes that didn't work. Enter Duncan McInnes.
|content=2) I'm really sorry, again, that we ended up here.
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Hopefully things can find a way to recover. Hopefully this can bring some amount of transparency, trust, and governance to them.
 
Ultimately hopefully it can be better for customers.
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|content=On January 21 1946, McInnes suggested to Frank Jewett a radical conference based around the UNTESTED young people rather than the failed leaders. As head of the [[National Academy of Sciences (NAS)|National Academy of Sciences]], Jewett allocated a grand total of...wait for it...$1500 for a conference in Long Island.
|content=Not trying to be difficult, but this sounds like an enormous announcement from Google as I assume you mean it to be as a CEO....and I don't get what is really being claimed in testing [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]]. Thx.
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|content=Beginning on June 1, 1947 at the Rams Head Inn on Shelter Island NY and ending on Weds June 4th, 24 mostly untested participants "hung out" together.
|content=What specific [[Quantum Gravity]] theory do you imagine has now been openned up for testing? Are these your words, and, if not, do you know what they mean?
 
I do not:


The actual cost of the meeting was...[drum roll please]...$872.00 in 1947 dollars. Which is about $12,000.00 in 2023 dollars.
"dynamics expected from crossing a traversable wormhole, opening up possibilities to test quantum gravity theories."
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|content=So by simply getting rid of most of the failed 1928-1947 leadership and focusing on the most promising untested physicists, a $12K slush fund in today's dollars changed history ending a two decade stagnation debuting Feynman's Path Integral, the Lamb Shift &amp; the two Meson theory.
|content=In @Nature: making a traversable wormhole with a quantum computer. A qubit teleported across our Sycamore processor exhibits the dynamics expected from crossing a traversable wormhole, opening up possibilities to test quantum gravity theories. #GoogleAI  https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/11/making-traversable-wormhole-with.html
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|content=So why do I suggest Hundreds of thousands rather than tens of thousands? Good question! First, it is harder to get rid of the failed leadership because our stagnation as of Februrary 2023 is 50 years old not 19. But also, Shelter Island needed two companion conferences in 1948-9.
|content=Thanks for the help. But I must regretfully decline.
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The Lamb–Retherford experiment was experimental physics. And Solid State theory would not be fundamental physics.
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|content=The Pocono Manor Inn meeting in Pennsylvania &amp; the Oldstone conference in Peeskill NY were around $1200 each in 1948 and 1949 respectively. As it turned out, the electron mass in the QED theory and the measured mass had been set equal when they were distinct quantities. Who knew!
|content=Snark is so much more fun when academics forget their own subjects and need to be reminded of their own history by...checks notes...a podcast host who's not a physicist.
 
I'm guessing you have no idea of how the stagnation in [[Quantum Field Theory]] of 1928-47 was broken.
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|content=According to many of the participants these three conferences (but particularly Shelter Island) were the most important conferences of their entire careers. Feynman was in his late 20s. This is how you get unstuck. How you build leadership. How you stop failing year after year...
|content=From the birth of Dirac's Quantum Electrodynamics in 1928, the subject couldn't compute results because infinities infested the calculations. This went on for nearly 20 years as the aging leaders of the field proposed crazy fixes that didn't work. Enter Duncan McInnes.
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|content=Those 3 conferences fixed the problem of infinites destroying the explanatory power of QED.
|content=On January 21 1946, McInnes suggested to Frank Jewett a radical conference based around the UNTESTED young people rather than the failed leaders.  As head of the [[National Academy of Sciences (NAS)|National Academy of Sciences]], Jewett allocated a grand total of...wait for it...$1500 for a conference in Long Island.
 
So I padded the HELL out of those numbers because I think the stagnations are similar with the major problem being leadership. I could be wrong. But it might take $1/2 Million to test it.
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|content=That isn't the issue. The issue is that the leadership is not passing the baton and there are no McInnes or Jewett figures. And professors now don't even know this history it seems! Don't they teach this in Physics class? Maybe it's too dangerous to learn how physics works. ;-)
|content=Beginning on June 1, 1947 at the Rams Head Inn on Shelter Island NY and ending on Weds June 4th, 24 mostly untested participants "hung out" together.
 
The actual cost of the meeting was...[drum roll please]...$872.00 in 1947 dollars. Which is about $12,000.00 in 2023 dollars.
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|content=So...feel free to try to snark your way out of this. But I'll stand my ground. We don't need to go "Funeral by Funeral", but I'm tiring of "Calabi-Yau Phenomenology" or Multiverse excuses as a replacement for actual physics. We need to go back to science. https://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv/
|content=So by simply getting rid of most of the failed 1928-1947 leadership and focusing on the most promising untested physicists, a $12K slush fund in today's dollars changed history ending a two decade stagnation debuting Feynman's Path Integral, the Lamb Shift &amp; the two Meson theory.
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|content=As to what's wrong with modern physics: let's start with [[Quantum Gravity]]. Bryce DeWitt started a failed 70 year wild goose chase in 1953 that is not working. If we lost 20 years on conflating Bare v Dressed masses, we just lost 70 years on [[Quantum Gravity]]. Maybe take a time out?
|content=So why do I suggest Hundreds of thousands rather than tens of thousands? Good question! First, it is harder to get rid of the failed leadership because our stagnation as of Februrary 2023 is 50 years old not 19. But also, Shelter Island needed two companion conferences in 1948-9.
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|content=I have thought this through. It isn't a cheap shot. And I have waited until the 50th anniversary to be this frontal about it. But it has never been controversial since Planck to suggest that aged failed leaders are a huge issue. I'm not the Funeral by Funeral guy. He was. ;-)
|content=The Pocono Manor Inn meeting in Pennsylvania &amp; the Oldstone conference in Peeskill NY were around $1200 each in 1948 and 1949 respectively. As it turned out, the electron mass in the QED theory and the measured mass had been set equal when they were distinct quantities. Who knew!
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|content=Lastly, I can't stand anti-collegial snark. We can escalate if you want, but if instead you would like to have a serious discussion next time, it would be my pleasure. Shall we try this again?
|content=According to many of the participants these three conferences (but particularly Shelter Island) were the most important conferences of their entire careers. Feynman was in his late 20s. This is how you get unstuck. How you build leadership. How you stop failing year after year...
 
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I'm Eric. Huge fan of what you guys do. Big supporter. Nice to meet you. Thanks.
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|content=@MBKplus Sorry to be slow, but you used a screenshot so I wouldn’t see your response rather than a quote tweet.  
|content=Those 3 conferences fixed the problem of infinites destroying the explanatory power of QED.


Not big on snark. But here is a proper response. Didn’t know the history had become so obscure to modern physicists. My bad.
So I padded the HELL out of those numbers because I think the stagnations are similar with the major problem being leadership. I could be wrong. But it might take $1/2 Million to test it.
 
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|content=Nah. It’s a sensitive topic. Almost 40 years of string theology. 50 years of stagnation. 70 years of quantum gravity not shipping a theory.
|content=That isn't the issue. The issue is that the leadership is not passing the baton and there are no McInnes or Jewett figures. And professors now don't even know this history it seems! Don't they teach this in Physics class? Maybe it's too dangerous to learn how physics works. ;-)
 
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I get it. But snark is a tell. The youngest Nobel particle theorist is over 70. I think 8 are alive. It’s really bad.
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|content=I have no underlying animosity towards Mike. Let’s see what happens next.
|content=So...feel free to try to snark your way out of this. But I'll stand my ground. We don't need to go "Funeral by Funeral", but I'm tiring of "Calabi-Yau Phenomenology" or Multiverse excuses as a replacement for actual physics. We need to go back to science. https://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv/
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|content=Honest to god, what are you talking about? In your mind does 'fundamental physics' consist solely of an oddball sitting in his dorm room at Oxford moving a magnet through a coil? (& yes,  I know that was Faraday at the RI & Newton was at Oxford, but I'm painting a picture here).
|content=As to what's wrong with modern physics: let's start with [[Quantum Gravity]]. Bryce DeWitt started a failed 70 year wild goose chase in 1953 that is not working. If we lost 20 years on conflating Bare v Dressed masses, we just lost 70 years on [[Quantum Gravity]]. Maybe take a time out?
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|content=See I was thinking pads of paper, pens, and a whiteboard or blackboard. Maybe some coffee. A bit of LaTeX.
|content=I have thought this through. It isn't a cheap shot. And I have waited until the 50th anniversary to be this frontal about it. But it has never been controversial since Planck to suggest that aged failed leaders are a huge issue. I'm not the Funeral by Funeral guy. He was. ;-)
 
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But that’s just me not getting it. Forgive me.
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|content=So you're confusing theoretical physics with 'fundamental physics', an honest mistake, consider yourself forgiven.
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|content=Perhaps you mean “Maybe [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] is simply a (pseudo)-Riemannian formulation of the quantum.”
|content=Lastly, I can't stand anti-collegial snark. We can escalate if you want, but if instead you would like to have a serious discussion next time, it would be my pleasure. Shall we try this again?


Quantum mechanics has already been made geometric where the uncertainty relations emerge from curvature tensors on phase space line bundles.
I'm Eric. Huge fan of what you guys do. Big supporter. Nice to meet you. Thanks.
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|content=maybe quantum gravity is simply a geometric formulation of quantum mechanics?
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|content="I remember when rock was young...🎶"
|content=@MBKplus Sorry to be slow, but you used a screenshot so I wouldn’t see your response rather than a quote tweet.  
 
Not big on snark. But here is a proper response. Didn’t know the history had become so obscure to modern physicists. My bad.


Let's get that energy back, by any means necessary.
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|content=This was a proper fuck you 🤌
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|name=Eric Weinstein
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|content=Today May be Considered the 50 year Anniversary of the Stagnation of Particle Physics.
|content=Nah. It’s a sensitive topic. Almost 40 years of [[String Theory|string theology]]. 50 years of stagnation. 70 years of quantum gravity not shipping a theory.  


Today Feb 1 marks the appearance of Kobayashi &amp;  Maskawa's englargment of the Cabibo Angle to the three generation 3x3 CKM matrix.  
I get it. But snark is a tell. The youngest Nobel particle theorist is over 70. I think 8 are alive. It’s really bad.
 
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That should be cause for celebration. So let us celebrate!
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|content=Unfortunately, it also marks the end of what we can be certain actually is physics.
|content=I have no underlying animosity towards Mike. Let’s see what happens next.
 
|timestamp=9:21 AM ¡ Jan 26, 2023
Imagine if Elton John's "Crocodile Rock" was still the #1 song on Billboard's Hot 100 &amp; Tony Orlando and Dawn were singing "Tie a Yellow Ribbon". That, in a nutshell, is fundamental phsyics.
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|content=To be clear, It is not as if there are no Nobel Laureates recognized for fundamental discoveries in particle theory left. I believe we are down to the last 8. Half of them are in their 70s. One in his 80s. Three are nongenarians. Yes. It's that bad. And we're not honest about it.
|content=Honest to god, what are you talking about? In your mind does 'fundamental physics' consist solely of an oddball sitting in his dorm room at Oxford moving a magnet through a coil? (& yes,  I know that was Faraday at the RI & Newton was at Oxford, but I'm painting a picture here).
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|name=Eric Weinstein
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|content=When you hear about "Peer Review" in this field, you have to understand that the field stopped working. Without nature telling us, we don't actually know who the physicists are any more. We have no idea who is a fundamental physicist. All we know is that what we do doesn't work.
|content=See I was thinking pads of paper, pens, and a whiteboard or blackboard. Maybe some coffee. A bit of LaTeX.
|timestamp=7:53 AM ¡ Feb 2, 2023
 
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But that’s just me not getting it. Forgive me.
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|content=So I am celebrating today by pointing out the obvious: maybe it isn't a good idea to have people who haven't made contact with actual fundamental physics telling everyone else what they must and must not do to be members of a club that no longer works according to normal science.
|content=So you're confusing theoretical physics with 'fundamental physics', an honest mistake, consider yourself forgiven.
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|name=Eric Weinstein
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|content=What fundamental physics really is, is (approximately) captured by the table below. In short, if someone is below the age of 70, they may have proven their brilliance and mathematical ability, but they have not proven any ability to make contact with reality as theorists.
|content=Perhaps you mean “Maybe [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] is simply a (pseudo)-Riemannian formulation of the quantum.”
|timestamp=7:53 AM ¡ Feb 2, 2023
 
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Quantum mechanics has already been made geometric where the uncertainty relations emerge from curvature tensors on phase space line bundles.
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|content=maybe quantum gravity is simply a geometric formulation of quantum mechanics?
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|content=I will point out that our experimentalists are in FAR better shape. The massive nature of neutrinos, discovery of gravitational waves, the Higgs field, Intermediate Vector Bosons, Accelerating Expansion of the Universe/Dark Energy are all major successes over the last 50 years.
|content="I remember when rock was young...🎶"
|timestamp=7:53 AM ¡ Feb 2, 2023
 
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|content=So what went wrong? I will be talking about my understanding of the stagnation this year at a different level. But the single greatest threat to fundamental physics in my estimation is something called "Quantum Gravity" which was really born 70 years ago around 1953.
|content=Today May be Considered the 50 year Anniversary of the Stagnation of Particle Physics.
 
Today Feb 1 marks the appearance of Kobayashi &amp;  Maskawa's englargment of the Cabibo Angle to the three generation 3x3 CKM matrix.
 
That should be cause for celebration. So let us celebrate!
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|name=Eric Weinstein
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|content=To put it bluntly, it is not just that Quantum Gravity doesn't work. It's that you can't comfortably question Quatnum Gravity because the failed investment is on a scale that I think is difficult for us to contemplate. It includes StringTheory, Loop Quantum Gravity, AdS/CFT etc.
|content=Unfortunately, it also marks the end of what we can be certain actually is physics.
 
Imagine if Elton John's "Crocodile Rock" was still the #1 song on Billboard's Hot 100 &amp; Tony Orlando and Dawn were singing "Tie a Yellow Ribbon". That, in a nutshell, is fundamental phsyics.
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|name=Eric Weinstein
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|content=Next Year, will be 40 years of failure for modern StringTheory to ship a product. To be clear and STEELMAN the argument for strings, it *is* a remarkable framework. It is REAL math. It teaches us things no other framework has.
|content=To be clear, It is not as if there are no Nobel Laureates recognized for fundamental discoveries in particle theory left. I believe we are down to the last 8. Half of them are in their 70s. One in his 80s. Three are nongenarians. Yes. It's that bad. And we're not honest about it.
 
But, it *destroyed* the culture of honest physics.
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|name=Eric Weinstein
|name=Eric Weinstein
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|content=We spent almost 80% of this time being told that ST was a 'Piece of 21st Century Physics that fell into the 20th Century.'  
|content=When you hear about [[Peer Review|"Peer Review"]] in this field, you have to understand that the field stopped working. Without nature telling us, we don't actually know who the physicists are any more. We have no idea who is a fundamental physicist. All we know is that what we do doesn't work.
 
Uh. Bullshit. That is an excuse. It's not clear that it's physics at all.
 
It's a "Failed piece of 20th Century Physics still hanging around in the 21stC".
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|name=Eric Weinstein
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|content=It is time to hold conferences dedicated to the issues of groupthink in physics. Why wont our leading voices admit failure? We don't know. Previous generations wanted their students to succeed. But String Theory is dominated by boomers who seem oblivious to danger.
|content=So I am celebrating today by pointing out the obvious: maybe it isn't a good idea to have people who haven't made contact with actual fundamental physics telling everyone else what they must and must not do to be members of a club that no longer works according to normal science.
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|name=Eric Weinstein
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|content=If we're going to truly wrestle w/ dark matter, or dark energy, or [[UAP]] that supposedly violate our laws of physics (e.g. General Relativity) we can't afford a leaders projecting their fears that THEY have wasted their lives, credibility and students careers on "Quantum Gravity".
|content=What fundamental physics really is, is (approximately) captured by the table below. In short, if someone is below the age of 70, they may have proven their brilliance and mathematical ability, but they have not proven any ability to make contact with reality as theorists.
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|name=Eric Weinstein
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|content=So by all means, let's celebrate. But it is time to ask new voices for wild, dangerous and irresponsible ideas. Peer review failed. Quantum Gravity Failed. Community norms failed. And soon there will be NO ONE LEFT proven to be able to play this game. So what do we do?
|content=I will point out that our experimentalists are in FAR better shape. The massive nature of neutrinos, discovery of gravitational waves, the Higgs field, Intermediate Vector Bosons, Accelerating Expansion of the Universe/Dark Energy are all major successes over the last 50 years.
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|name=Eric Weinstein
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|content=We need to spend perhaps 5yrs asking "If the leaders have not succeeded for FIVE DECADES in moving beyond the Standard Model, then why are they leading this field and directing the resources, research, and path forward? What if we listened to those who the leadership push aside?"
|content=So what went wrong? I will be talking about my understanding of the stagnation this year at a different level. But the single greatest threat to fundamental physics in my estimation is something called [[Quantum Gravity|"Quantum Gravity"]] which was really born 70 years ago around 1953.
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|name=Eric Weinstein
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|content=As someone who has tried to ask this question, I can tell you that mostly the big programs have granted themselves a science equivalent of 'dipolmatic immunity' from the standards they impose on their intellectual competitors. But from today forward, we must end that game.
|content=To put it bluntly, it is not just that [[Quantum Gravity]] doesn't work. It's that you can't comfortably question Quatnum Gravity because the failed investment is on a scale that I think is difficult for us to contemplate. It includes [[String Theory|StringTheory]], Loop Quantum Gravity, AdS/CFT etc.
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|content=Let's put resources in new avenues, theories and theorists that have yet to fail. The next time you hear a theorist telling you about quantum gravity, the multiverse or String theory or Loops or Supersymmetry or AdS/CFT, etc. Ask them the following dangerous question:
|content=Next Year, will be 40 years of failure for modern [[String Theory|StringTheory]] to ship a product. To be clear and STEELMAN the argument for strings, it *is* a remarkable framework. It is REAL math. It teaches us things no other framework has.
 
But, it *destroyed* the culture of honest physics.
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|content="If you haven't succeeded in 50-70 years, what other theories would be viable if we relaxed the standards you have imposed on your competitors given that your theories do not seem to work? What if your Quantum Gravity were subjected to such standards? Would QG be quackery?"🙏
|content=We spent almost 80% of this time being told that ST was a 'Piece of 21st Century Physics that fell into the 20th Century.'
 
Uh. Bullshit. That is an excuse. It's not clear that it's physics at all.
 
It's a "Failed piece of 20th Century Physics still hanging around in the 21stC".
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|content=Let's honor those who tried before by bringing the same energy they once brought to the attempt to learn our place in the universe. Happy to be corrected. But this is an emergency if we're ever going to go beyond chemical rockets and use physics to take our place among the stars.
|content=It is time to hold conferences dedicated to the issues of groupthink in physics. Why wont our leading voices admit failure? We don't know. Previous generations wanted their students to succeed. But [[String Theory]] is dominated by boomers who seem oblivious to danger.
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|content=And I don’t want to get rid of them. I want us to go back to real physics. I want us to stop pretending we live in anti-de Sitter Space or that space time SUSY is just out of reach.
|content=If we're going to truly wrestle w/ dark matter, or dark energy, or [[UAP]] that supposedly violate our laws of physics (e.g. [[General Relativity]]) we can't afford a leaders projecting their fears that THEY have wasted their lives, credibility and students careers on [[Quantum Gravity|"Quantum Gravity"]].
 
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It’s basic to the culture of science. Which unfortunately is not [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] culture.
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|content=In studio Episode of @Into_Impossible with Dan coming soon where we discussed his epic 🧵. And Martin and Eric and Turok and Sabine get shoutouts! Stay tuned…
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|content=Hard to tell whether this is good faith, honestly. Some grains of truth buried here, but you have to ignore many developements to end up w this view.
 
I'll leave this here https://x.com/nu_phases/status/1598331715340054528
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|content=But Martin, with Eric in my experience, it’s always good faith… l’Shem Shamayim as we say!
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|content=Of course! We all fail…or we aren’t pushing ourselves. We have to confront what happened. But, to give @martinmbauer his due, his papers are genuine attempts to understand the physical world. He is one sort of theorist we need more of. 4D SM + extensions. That’s not [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] theology.
|content=So by all means, let's celebrate. But it is time to ask new voices for wild, dangerous and irresponsible ideas. [[Peer Review|Peer review]] failed. [[Quantum Gravity]] Failed. Community norms failed. And soon there will be NO ONE LEFT proven to be able to play this game. So what do we do?
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|content=I’m much more concerned by brilliant theorists who…and I am not kidding at all…refer to the [[Standard Model]] as “Oh, I vaguely remember this from graduate school [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] class.” That is an unbelievable development. People who have literally forgotten the field content of reality.
|content=We need to spend perhaps 5yrs asking "If the leaders have not succeeded for FIVE DECADES in moving beyond the [[Standard Model]], then why are they leading this field and directing the resources, research, and path forward? What if we listened to those who the leadership push aside?"
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|content=@MasterMuskkk @bgreene @Columbia @TOEwithCurt @IAI_TV Brian is one of our best public speakers as well. I’ve seen him improvise on his feet in tough situations and I am blown away by how he manages to be accurate, accessible and funny in real time scientific matters. A lightning-fast mind working simultaneously on multiple levels.
|content=As someone who has tried to ask this question, I can tell you that mostly the big programs have granted themselves a science equivalent of 'dipolmatic immunity' from the standards they impose on their intellectual competitors. But from today forward, we must end that game.
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|content=The IAI asked me to clarify some arguments in an interchange over theoretical physics I had earlier with String Theorist @bgreene of @Columbia, just as Brian was asked about the same discussion on @TOEwithCurt.
|content=Let's put resources in new avenues, theories and theorists that have yet to fail. The next time you hear a theorist telling you about quantum gravity, the multiverse or [[String Theory|String theory]] or Loops or Supersymmetry or AdS/CFT, etc. Ask them the following dangerous question:
 
|timestamp=7:53 AM ¡ Feb 2, 2023
The @IAI_TV write up is here. Check it out!
 
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|content=I think what was new to @IAI_TV was someone who was not against string theory as a framework, but adamant that String culture and Quantum Gravity had been catastrophically enervating for 40-70 years.
|content="If you haven't succeeded in 50-70 years, what other theories would be viable if we relaxed the standards you have imposed on your competitors given that your theories do not seem to work? What if your [[Quantum Gravity]] were subjected to such standards? Would QG be quackery?"🙏
 
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|content=At 1:32:50, Curt Jaimangul asks Brian Greene about the same issue.
|content=Let's honor those who tried before by bringing the same energy they once brought to the attempt to learn our place in the universe. Happy to be corrected. But this is an emergency if we're ever going to go beyond chemical rockets and use physics to take our place among the stars.
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I respect Brian a great deal and always found him collegial. I’d be happy to have the state and future of Quantum Gravity discussed at length in open forum if people were interested.
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|content=Could list to @EricRWeinstein and @bgreene debate all day. Podcast was killer. Thanks again to both of you intellectual titans!
|content=And I don’t want to get rid of them. I want us to go back to real physics. I want us to stop pretending we live in anti-de Sitter Space or that space time SUSY is just out of reach.
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It’s basic to the culture of science. Which unfortunately is not [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] culture.
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|content=In studio Episode of @Into_Impossible with Dan coming soon where we discussed his epic 🧵. And Martin and Eric and Turok and Sabine get shoutouts! Stay tuned…
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|content=Hard to tell whether this is good faith, honestly. Some grains of truth buried here, but you have to ignore many developements to end up w this view.
 
I'll leave this here https://x.com/nu_phases/status/1598331715340054528
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|content=But Martin, with Eric in my experience, it’s always good faith… l’Shem Shamayim as we say!
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|content=Four plus hours, too much Glenmorangie, a side of [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and several Extraterrestrials later, I don’t exactly remember what happened. Will have to listen along with everyone else.
|content=Of course! We all fail…or we aren’t pushing ourselves. We have to confront what happened. But, to give @martinmbauer his due, his papers are genuine attempts to understand the physical world. He is one sort of theorist we need more of. 4D SM + extensions. That’s not [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] theology.
 
|timestamp=5:19 PM ¡ Feb 2, 2023
Great to see @joerogan as always. Miss having that guy in LA…
 
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|content=[[Quantum Gravity]] is potentially a cul-de-sac. The bizarre reasons for wanting to lead others into any dead end were well explored in this scene of Animal House. The character Stork was one of the main writers I believe. He had one speaking line if I remember correctly…
|content=I’m much more concerned by brilliant theorists who…and I am not kidding at all…refer to the [[Standard Model]] as “Oh, I vaguely remember this from graduate school [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] class.” That is an unbelievable development. People who have literally forgotten the field content of reality.
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|content=Will try an experiment here. There are a *lot* of questions coming to me about the @joerogan appearance. If you have legitimate UFO or physics questions from JRE, I’m open to trying to answer 5 of them below in this thread. Trolls get blocked. Fair? Let’s go!
 
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|content=Why railroad physics the way it’s seems to have been? And who would want that
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|content=There’s so much in this episode that can be chased down. It’s a pretty coherent story. Particle physics stalled 50 years ago. We aren’t admitting how bad this is so we wasted 39 years chasing [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] which couldn’t be questioned without severe repercussions. Start there.
|content=@MasterMuskkk @bgreene @Columbia @TOEwithCurt @IAI_TV Brian is one of our best public speakers as well. I’ve seen him improvise on his feet in tough situations and I am blown away by how he manages to be accurate, accessible and funny in real time scientific matters. A lightning-fast mind working simultaneously on multiple levels.
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|content=Same experiment. 5-10 questions while waiting in a parking lot. What might I clear up from JRE #1945 on physics and UFOs? Trolls get blocked as before. That said: Let’s go.
|content=The IAI asked me to clarify some arguments in an interchange over theoretical physics I had earlier with [[String Theory|String Theorist]] @bgreene of @Columbia, just as Brian was asked about the same discussion on @TOEwithCurt.
 
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|content=Will try an experiment here. There are a *lot* of questions coming to me about the @joerogan appearance. If you have legitimate UFO or physics questions from JRE, I’m open to trying to answer 5 of them below in this thread. Trolls get blocked. Fair? Let’s go!
|content=I think what was new to @IAI_TV was someone who was not against [[String Theory|string theory]] as a framework, but adamant that [[String Theory|String culture]] and [[Quantum Gravity]] had been catastrophically enervating for 40-70 years.


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|content=I struggled to follow the line of thinking on the podcast. Have you considered presenting it as a logical argument, maybe a form of expression you’re more comfortable in wielding?
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|content=Yes. But the problem is that most people are not following what I’m saying technically. They could chase down Roger Babson / Agnew Bahnson, but it is easier to claim that it is all some idiosyncratic psychological issue on my part. Which, is dumb; I don’t need that in my life.
|content=At 1:32:50, Curt Jaimangul asks Brian Greene about the same issue.
|timestamp=8:00 PM ¡ Mar 3, 2023
 
I respect Brian a great deal and always found him collegial. I’d be happy to have the state and future of Quantum Gravity discussed at length in open forum if people were interested.
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|content=Could list to @EricRWeinstein and @bgreene debate all day. Podcast was killer. Thanks again to both of you intellectual titans!
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|content=I don’t understand why we aren’t all talking about the failure of [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]]. Why are we all forced to deal with a 70 year abject failure of physics as if someone explained why gravity has to be quantized like the other fields. I can’t explain that.
|content=Four plus hours, too much Glenmorangie, a side of [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and several Extraterrestrials later, I don’t exactly remember what happened. Will have to listen along with everyone else.
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|content=Same experiment. 5-10 questions while waiting in a parking lot. What might I clear up from JRE #1945 on physics and UFOs? Trolls get blocked as before. That said: Let’s go.
|content=[[Quantum Gravity]] is potentially a cul-de-sac. The bizarre reasons for wanting to lead others into any dead end were well explored in this scene of Animal House. The character Stork was one of the main writers I believe. He had one speaking line if I remember correctly…
 
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|content=At one point in the interview I thought you indirectly implied that the Physics community was purposefully led down the Quantum gravity road in order to perhaps slow them down(?).
|content=Why railroad physics the way it’s seems to have been? And who would want that
 
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|content=But keep in mind, I was at MIT for several years during the ‘90s and down the street as well both before &amp; after, so I’m not able to shy away from questions about Cambridge MA &amp; its physicists.
|content=There’s so much in this episode that can be chased down. It’s a pretty coherent story. Particle physics stalled 50 years ago. We aren’t admitting how bad this is so we wasted 39 years chasing [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] which couldn’t be questioned without severe repercussions. Start there.
 
I’m NOT out to debunk, but I’m not at liberty to hold back either. Think carefully.👍
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|content=If Bob Lazar wants to sit down with me, I’m now prepared to accept @joerogan’s invitation from this past February. But it may not go the way many folks want and should be something Mr Lazar wants to do. All I can promise is that I will do so in good faith.
|content=Same experiment. 5-10 questions while waiting in a parking lot. What might I clear up from JRE #1945 on physics and UFOs? Trolls get blocked as before. That said: Let’s go.
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|content=I’m also happy to recommend experts in Quantum Chromodynamics, Nuclear Physics, [[General Relativity]], and [[Quantum Gravity]] given that Lazar makes claims that appear to conflate the Strong nuclear force under a Yang-Mills action with the Gravitational force using Einstein-Hilbert.
|content=Will try an experiment here. There are a *lot* of questions coming to me about the @joerogan appearance. If you have legitimate UFO or physics questions from JRE, I’m open to trying to answer 5 of them below in this thread. Trolls get blocked. Fair? Let’s go!
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|content=I struggled to follow the line of thinking on the podcast. Have you considered presenting it as a logical argument, maybe a form of expression you’re more comfortable in wielding?
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|content=I have no need to do this for myself, but Joe is a friend in whom I trust, so I’ll be happy to follow his wishes. I knew little of Lazar when I appeared on JRE #1945 and nothing of his theory of “Gravity Wave A”.
|content=Yes. But the problem is that most people are not following what I’m saying technically. They could chase down Roger Babson / Agnew Bahnson, but it is easier to claim that it is all some idiosyncratic psychological issue on my part. Which, is dumb; I don’t need that in my life.
 
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I’ve now acquainted myself with what I could find on the claim.
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|content=Note added: I expect that there will be targeting of me for speaking out about this pattern. But:
|content=I don’t understand why we aren’t all talking about the failure of [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]]. Why are we all forced to deal with a 70 year abject failure of physics as if someone explained why gravity has to be quantized like the other fields. I can’t explain that.
 
<nowiki>*</nowiki> I have had ZERO interest in this topic historically until the unsolicited outreach. Simply a detailed understanding of the bizarre history of the anti-gravity/[[Quantum Gravity|quantum-gravity]] era of 1953-1973 and the modern [[String Theory]] stagnation era of 1984-Present.
 
<nowiki>*</nowiki>I have so far not publicly disclosed where it comes from as professional courtesy despite my irritation.
 
<nowiki>*</nowiki>I am under no NDA or clearance arrangements of any kind. None.
 
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I don’t think the US should be targeting STEM PhDs in this way. It at times feels like the non-consensual use of civilians in some kind of orchestrated disinformation campaign where I am in no position to tell who is telling the truth. Pretty scary actually.
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|content=There are none.  
|content=Same experiment. 5-10 questions while waiting in a parking lot. What might I clear up from JRE #1945 on physics and UFOs? Trolls get blocked as before. That said: Let’s go.


In [[UAP|UFO/UAP]] land, very little *ever* happens at a scientific level it seems.
<nowiki>#</nowiki>BeConstructive
 
I have attempted in good faith to be of some use. But I am *not* pushing this angle. The door was opened, but no one walked through. As usual.
 
Make of that what you will.
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|content=Let me kill two birds with one thread. Gary is a serious scientist and Professor at Stanford. I know him and enjoy talking shop with him.  
|content=Will try an experiment here. There are a *lot* of questions coming to me about the @joerogan appearance. If you have legitimate UFO or physics questions from JRE, I’m open to trying to answer 5 of them below in this thread. Trolls get blocked. Fair? Let’s go!


But you will note the pattern is exactly similar to the one I described as “Lucy and the Football” on @joerogan #1945:
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|content=At one point in the interview I thought you indirectly implied that the Physics community was purposefully led down the Quantum gravity road in order to perhaps slow them down(?).


<nowiki>*</nowiki>Outreach from Credible USG/Ex-USG Contacts
Or did I understand it poorly?
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<nowiki>*</nowiki>Bizarrely Confident Grand Claims


<nowiki>*</nowiki>Planned Disclosure on a timeline
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|content=But keep in mind, I was at MIT for several years during the ‘90s and down the street as well both before &amp; after, so I’m not able to shy away from questions about Cambridge MA &amp; its physicists.


<nowiki>*</nowiki>Last minute “Change in Plans”
I’m NOT out to debunk, but I’m not at liberty to hold back either. Think carefully.👍
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|content=If Bob Lazar wants to sit down with me, I’m now prepared to accept @joerogan’s invitation from this past February. But it may not go the way many folks want and should be something Mr Lazar wants to do. All I can promise is that I will do so in good faith.
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|content=I’m also happy to recommend experts in Quantum Chromodynamics, Nuclear Physics, [[General Relativity]], and [[Quantum Gravity]] given that Lazar makes claims that appear to conflate the Strong nuclear force under a Yang-Mills action with the Gravitational force using Einstein-Hilbert.
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|content=I have no need to do this for myself, but Joe is a friend in whom I trust, so I’ll be happy to follow his wishes. I knew little of Lazar when I appeared on JRE #1945 and nothing of his theory of “Gravity Wave A”.


<nowiki>*</nowiki>Repeated pattern across groups
I’ve now acquainted myself with what I could find on the claim.
🙏
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At least 4+ instances of this behavior to 3  or more visible PhDs in different areas.  
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This is what I can say. I choose not to say more. But this bizarre pattern is invariant. Gary is not making this up. Nor is Sam. Nor am I. Etc
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|content=Note added: I expect that there will be targeting of me for speaking out about this pattern. But:


Very disappointing. But it is newsworthy that this is being done to US PhDs. Why? I cannot for the life of me tell you. If it weren’t for the credibility of those involved I would think it was a prank.  
<nowiki>*</nowiki> I have had ZERO interest in this topic historically until the unsolicited outreach. Simply a detailed understanding of the bizarre history of the anti-gravity/[[Quantum Gravity|quantum-gravity]] era of 1953-1973 and the modern [[String Theory]] stagnation era of 1984-Present.  


But I suspect Gary wasn’t weeks away. It feels orchestrated *never* to happen. Feel free to draw your own conclusion however.  
<nowiki>*</nowiki>I have so far not publicly disclosed where it comes from as professional courtesy despite my irritation.


Ok. Back to normal life.
<nowiki>*</nowiki>I am under no NDA or clearance arrangements of any kind. None.
 
Thanks. 🙏
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|content=100% Confidence We Have Non-Human Material
 
Garry Nolan says he was weeks away from getting access to non-human material or "object".
 
Full Interview: https://youtube.com/live/smLrrtEbVtQ?feature=share
 
H/T:
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<nowiki>#</nowiki>ufotwitter #uaptwitter #UFOs #ufo
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I don’t think the US should be targeting STEM PhDs in this way. It at times feels like the non-consensual use of civilians in some kind of orchestrated disinformation campaign where I am in no position to tell who is telling the truth. Pretty scary actually.
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|content=@skdh I acknowledge my desires as you see from what I wrote. But a stagnant community always wants outcomes. It wants SUSY. Or Strings. Or some g-2 muon anomaly. Etc.
|content=There are none.  
 
In [[UAP|UFO/UAP]] land, very little *ever* happens at a scientific level it seems.


I want too. But what I want is mostly just a desire to get the BS out of physics so we can get back to succeeding.
I have attempted in good faith to be of some use. But I am *not* pushing this angle. The door was opened, but no one walked through. As usual.
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|content=Now I feel completely alone.


I want our wanting out of this story. I have a huge dog in this fight. I spend every day fighting my own human desire for GU to be proven correct.
Make of that what you will.  
 
🙏
I believe this is how String Theorists stopped being scientists.
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I just want our data &amp; the physics.
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|content=I want this to be real.
|content=@EricRWeinstein, any updates on the possible conversation with Bob Lazar?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/06/whistleblower-ufo-alien-tech-spacecraft
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|content=If biological aliens were here from others star systems in crafts that defy the current physics of the standard model and, more importantly, general relativity, I would be one of the few people who would have a guess on day one as to how they must have gotten here. It’s tempting.
|content=Let me kill two birds with one thread. Gary is a serious scientist and Professor at Stanford. I know him and enjoy talking shop with him.
|timestamp=1:44 PM ¡ Jun 7, 2023
 
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But you will note the pattern is exactly similar to the one I described as “Lucy and the Football” on @joerogan #1945:
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<nowiki>*</nowiki>Outreach from Credible USG/Ex-USG Contacts
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<nowiki>*</nowiki>Bizarrely Confident Grand Claims
 
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Planned Disclosure on a timeline
 
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Last minute “Change in Plans”
 
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Repeated pattern across groups
 
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At least 4+ instances of this behavior to 3  or more visible PhDs in different areas.
 
This is what I can say. I choose not to say more. But this bizarre pattern is invariant. Gary is not making this up. Nor is Sam. Nor am I. Etc
 
Very disappointing. But it is newsworthy that this is being done to US PhDs. Why? I cannot for the life of me tell you. If it weren’t for the credibility of those involved I would think it was a prank.
 
But I suspect Gary wasn’t weeks away. It feels orchestrated *never* to happen. Feel free to draw your own conclusion however.
 
Ok. Back to normal life.
 
Thanks. 🙏
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|usernameurl=https://x.com/MikeColangelo
|username=MikeColangelo
|content=100% Confidence We Have Non-Human Material
 
Garry Nolan says he was weeks away from getting access to non-human material or "object".
 
Full Interview: https://youtube.com/live/smLrrtEbVtQ?feature=share
 
H/T:
@wow36932525
 
<nowiki>#</nowiki>ufotwitter #uaptwitter #UFOs #ufo
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|content=@skdh I acknowledge my desires as you see from what I wrote. But a stagnant community always wants outcomes. It wants SUSY. Or [[String Theory|Strings]]. Or some g-2 muon anomaly. Etc.
 
I want too. But what I want is mostly just a desire to get the BS out of physics so we can get back to succeeding.
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|content=Now I feel completely alone.
 
I want our wanting out of this story. I have a huge dog in this fight. I spend every day fighting my own human desire for GU to be proven correct.
 
I believe this is how [[String Theory|String Theorists]] stopped being scientists.
 
I just want our data &amp; the physics.
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|content=I want this to be real.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/06/whistleblower-ufo-alien-tech-spacecraft
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|content=If biological aliens were here from others star systems in crafts that defy the current physics of the standard model and, more importantly, general relativity, I would be one of the few people who would have a guess on day one as to how they must have gotten here. It’s tempting.
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|content=It is time to face up to the disaster of string theory. But we need to be fair about what failed and why. The equations of string theory can’t hurt anyone. It’s 40 years of the anti-scientific destruction of scientific standards and norms of collegiality to promote one failed theory over all other attempts that is behind this destruction of what was previously the worlds most accomplished scientific community.
|content=It is time to face up to the disaster of [[String Theory|string theory]]. But we need to be fair about what failed and why. The equations of [[String Theory|string theory]] can’t hurt anyone. It’s 40 years of the anti-scientific destruction of scientific standards and norms of collegiality to promote one failed theory over all other attempts that is behind this destruction of what was previously the worlds most accomplished scientific community.


It’s time to face up to what actually happened 40 years ago. And it ain’t pretty. 🙏
It’s time to face up to what actually happened 40 years ago. And it ain’t pretty. 🙏
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|content=The good folks at @IAI_TV put together a reel of String Theorist, Prof. @bgreene and I debating [[String Theory]] in Wales in May at @HTLGIFestival.  
|content=The good folks at @IAI_TV put together a reel of [[String Theory|String Theorist]], Prof. @bgreene and I debating [[String Theory]] in Wales in May at @HTLGIFestival.  


Check it out:  
Check it out:  
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|content=So, now in the current post-string era, it is perfectly acceptable for people to work on [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] without having to understand essentially anything about the mysterious 3 generations of chiral particles that actually populate our world. In short, they changed the field.
|content=So, now in the current [[String Theory|post-string era]], it is perfectly acceptable for people to work on [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] without having to understand essentially anything about the mysterious 3 generations of chiral particles that actually populate our world. In short, they changed the field.
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|content=Oddly, even though Roger Penrose and I were on the same side on this stage, I couldn’t subscribe to much of Penrose’s critique of strings and found myself agreeing more with Brian Greene on the technical points.
|content=Oddly, even though Roger Penrose and I were on the same side on this stage, I couldn’t subscribe to much of Penrose’s critique of [[String Theory|strings]] and found myself agreeing more with Brian Greene on the technical points.
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|content=To sum it up: when string theorist are no longer in a position to keep changing the goal posts set by the physical world, isn’t it the case that from A-Z maybe string theory is not being honest?
|content=To sum it up: when [[String Theory|string theorist]] are no longer in a position to keep changing the goal posts set by the physical world, isn’t it the case that from A-Z maybe [[String Theory|string theory]] is not being honest?


Again. Not personal to you. At all. But it is not a fair move to say “It’s the best yet-to-succeed approach to quantum gravity.” in front of the public. No?  
Again. Not personal to you. At all. But it is not a fair move to say “It’s the best yet-to-succeed approach to [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]].” in front of the public. No?  


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|content=I can confirm this indeed blows up ones notifications.
|content=I can confirm this indeed blows up ones notifications.


But, in case of doubt or misunderstanding, string theory is absolutely the deepest, most consequential and most likely to be true set of ideas about what sits at the intersection of the Standard Model and quantum gravity.
But, in case of doubt or misunderstanding, [[String Theory|string theory]] is absolutely the deepest, most consequential and most likely to be true set of ideas about what sits at the intersection of the [[Standard Model]] and [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]].
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|content=My responsibility is to make accurate statements (and yes, everything is my (professional) opinion).
|content=My responsibility is to make accurate statements (and yes, everything is my (professional) opinion).


As the book quote indicates, I try not to overclaim. But: that string theory and the complex  of ideas are around it are more serious than any competitors, IMO objectively true.
As the book quote indicates, I try not to overclaim. But: that [[String Theory|string theory]] and the complex  of ideas are around it are more serious than any competitors, IMO objectively true.
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As with so many of these String Theoretic claims I have no idea what that means.
As with so many of these [[String Theory|String Theoretic]] claims I have no idea what that means.


So for example if I make an argument that this is NOT objectively true, do you fall back on the idea that it was opinion?
So for example if I make an argument that this is NOT objectively true, do you fall back on the idea that it was opinion?
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“Objectively, Electrons are field theoretic at observed energy scales.” My opinion doesn’t enter into it. The claim that it is objectively true eliminates the role of opinion.  
“Objectively, Electrons are field theoretic at observed energy scales.” My opinion doesn’t enter into it. The claim that it is objectively true eliminates the role of opinion.  


Does that mean that all who disagree with you and your String community are “not serious” as per the above?
Does that mean that all who disagree with you and your [[String Theory|String community]] are “not serious” as per the above?
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Feynman, Glashow, Wilczek never found them objectively or absolutely compelling.
Feynman, Glashow, Wilczek never found them objectively or absolutely compelling.


String theorists like Friedan have written harshly of the Failures.
[[String Theory|String theorists]] like Friedan have written harshly of the Failures.


And what you are saying about subjective opinion and absolute objective fact doesn’t make sense. I mean you can just see that, no? Not trying to be mean here. But I don’t see what you are claiming is absolute and objective beyond your opinion.  
And what you are saying about subjective opinion and absolute objective fact doesn’t make sense. I mean you can just see that, no? Not trying to be mean here. But I don’t see what you are claiming is absolute and objective beyond your opinion.  


What you seem to be saying is the usual trope: “The more you understand about the difficulty of quantizing a spin 2 gravitational field the more you appreciate how string theory has taught us so much about how it is to be done eventually, and that there is no remotely comparable framework for doing so!”
What you seem to be saying is the usual trope: “The more you understand about the difficulty of quantizing a spin 2 gravitational field the more you appreciate how [[String Theory|string theory]] has taught us so much about how it is to be done eventually, and that there is no remotely comparable framework for doing so!”


Again. Not trying to be combative. Feel free to correct me if I have this wrong.
Again. Not trying to be combative. Feel free to correct me if I have this wrong.
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|content=It is not objective or absolutely true that [[String Theory]] is our best theory. In fact, it has become, 40 years after the anomaly cancelation, our most thoroughly explored idea. No other path has been picked over like this one.


Waited a few days. I don’t think you are making sense about your *opinion* that it is *objectively* and *absolutely* dominant. And that is the problem. String theorist deliberately leave others with the impression that they are following something scientific, objective and absolute. But it is really just a shared subjective hunch. And this does science and physics a terrible disservice.
Waited a few days. I don’t think you are making sense about your *opinion* that it is *objectively* and *absolutely* dominant. And that is the problem. [[String Theory|String theorist]] deliberately leave others with the impression that they are following something scientific, objective and absolute. But it is really just a shared subjective hunch. And this does science and physics a terrible disservice.
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|content=I don’t think that is the relevant argument anymore. So you are framing it in such a way that “String Theory” is the answer to a question you formulated: “Of all the approaches to quantizing  gravity which haven’t worked, which is the best?”
|content=I don’t think that is the relevant argument anymore. So you are framing it in such a way that [[String Theory|“String Theory”]] is the answer to a question you formulated: “Of all the approaches to quantizing  gravity which haven’t worked, which is the best?”


My argument is with that framing.
My argument is with that framing.
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|content=The problem I have is with string theorists framing of the field and its issues and questions. I think [[String Theory]] is dangerous for this reason.  
|content=The problem I have is with [[String Theory|string theorists]] framing of the field and its issues and questions. I think [[String Theory]] is dangerous for this reason.  


Try these instead:
Try these instead:
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|content=Some of you have asked me why I am specifically focused on how [[String Theory]] *may* have permanently deranged modern theory in High Energy Physics.  
|content=Some of you have asked me why I am specifically focused on how [[String Theory]] *may* have permanently deranged modern theory in High Energy Physics.  


In the midst of a thread with Prof. @JosephPConlon, author of “Why String Theory?” I set out the dangers of allowing string theorists to be the arbiters judges and juries of what is important in physics.
In the midst of a thread with Prof. @JosephPConlon, author of “Why [[String Theory]]?” I set out the dangers of allowing [[String Theory|string theorists]] to be the arbiters judges and juries of what is important in physics.


Simply put, they mis-framed almost everything to explain the last 40 inexplicable years of string induced monoculture and stagnation in moving beyond the [[Standard Model]] and [[General Relativity]]. The question is now: “Can more healthy physics research culture survive and come back from the String Failure?”
Simply put, they mis-framed almost everything to explain the last 40 inexplicable years of [[String Theory|string induced monoculture and stagnation]] in moving beyond the [[Standard Model]] and [[General Relativity]]. The question is now: “Can more healthy physics research culture survive and come back from the [[String Theory|String Failure]]?”
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|content=The problem I have is with string theorists framing of the field and its issues and questions. I think [[String Theory]] is dangerous for this reason.  
|content=The problem I have is with [[String Theory|string theorists]] framing of the field and its issues and questions. I think [[String Theory]] is dangerous for this reason.  


Try these instead:
Try these instead:
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|content=Who turned out to be right?  
|content=Who turned out to be right?  


Everyone who said “Wait: why are we changing the core mission to ‘Quantizing Gravity’?? Weren’t we supposed to explain the observed particle spectrum? And the weirdness of the Higgs sector as Deus Ex Machina? And the origin of chirality? Etc etc.”
Everyone who said “Wait: why are we changing the core mission to [[Quantum Gravity|‘Quantizing Gravity’]]?? Weren’t we supposed to explain the observed particle spectrum? And the weirdness of the Higgs sector as Deus Ex Machina? And the origin of chirality? Etc etc.”


Feynman/Glashow/Perl/Etc.  
Feynman/Glashow/Perl/Etc.  
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|content=Sorry. By whom? Do I expect to be taken seriously by the many String Theorists who called their colleagues morons, frauds and “not serious” behind their backs? No. I don’t.  
|content=Sorry. By whom? Do I expect to be taken seriously by the many [[String Theory|String Theorists]] who called their colleagues morons, frauds and “not serious” behind their backs? No. I don’t.  


I expect them to leave the field. Then we can get back to doing physics. The subset of reasonable string theorists who know this problem well and are still doing science? Well….They know ST/QG has a problem and they hate it too. And I do care about them.  
I expect them to leave the field. Then we can get back to doing physics. The subset of reasonable [[String Theory|string theorists]] who know this problem well and are still doing science? Well….They know ST/QG has a problem and they hate it too. And I do care about them.  


That isn’t a mind virus. The mind virus is specifically the tortured defense of [[String Theory|string theory]] and [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] by attacking colleagues without admitting its massive failure. And that is a mind virus. I stand by that. It’s atrocious.
That isn’t a mind virus. The mind virus is specifically the tortured defense of [[String Theory|string theory]] and [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] by attacking colleagues without admitting its massive failure. And that is a mind virus. I stand by that. It’s atrocious.
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|content=“String theory approaches experimental verification.”
|content=“[[String Theory|String theory]] approaches experimental verification.”


“New Breakthrough in [[Quantum Gravity]] upends everything.”
“New Breakthrough in [[Quantum Gravity]] upends everything.”
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Woit is an excellent example of someone who was told he was barren when he was a pure critic...only to then be told he was a self-promoter when he had something to say about the structure bundle of CP^3 being potentially the low energy electro strong SU(3)xU(1) and the oddity of the chirality of the weak force being either fully on or off rather than merely conjugate V vs \bar{V}.
Woit is an excellent example of someone who was told he was barren when he was a pure critic...only to then be told he was a self-promoter when he had something to say about the structure bundle of CP^3 being potentially the low energy electro strong SU(3)xU(1) and the oddity of the chirality of the weak force being either fully on or off rather than merely conjugate V vs \bar{V}.


It's time to stop pretending this is about physics. It's about protecting a 4 decade MASSIVE screw up pretending that there is only one game in town.
It's time to stop pretending this is about physics. It's about protecting a 4 decade MASSIVE screw up pretending that there is [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|only one game in town]].
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Many of those independent critical voices are actually focused on *institutional* sensationalism particularly surrounding outrageous claims for particle theory,  [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and [[String Theory|String Theory/m-theory]].  
Many of those independent critical voices are actually focused on *institutional* sensationalism particularly surrounding outrageous claims for particle theory,  [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and [[String Theory|String Theory/m-theory]].  


I generally view your public outreach work very favorably, communicating the beauty of the Standard Model, and to a lesser extent GR. Within research, you  mostly seem to be trying to connect String Theory and other speculative frameworks to things like experimental accelerator signatures. Despite my distaste for 4-decades of anti-scientfic String Triumphalism and dissembling from the Susskinds, Wittens, Motls, Grosses and others, I have never associated that with you.
I generally view your public outreach work very favorably, communicating the beauty of the Standard Model, and to a lesser extent GR. Within research, you  mostly seem to be trying to connect [[String Theory]] and other speculative frameworks to things like experimental accelerator signatures. Despite my distaste for [[String Theory|4-decades of anti-scientfic String Triumphalism and dissembling]] from the Susskinds, Wittens, Motls, Grosses and others, I have never associated that with you.


Gregson clearly has a problem. He is strawmanning colleagues talking about a VERY real problem of denial, and anti-collegial behavior which is anethma to science.
Gregson clearly has a problem. He is strawmanning colleagues talking about a VERY real problem of denial, and anti-collegial behavior which is anethma to science.
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|content=🚨BREAKING: The drones that were flying over New Jersey were authorized to be flown by the FAA and the Biden administration. They lied about not knowing.
|content=🚨BREAKING: The drones that were flying over New Jersey were authorized to be flown by the FAA and the Biden administration. They lied about not knowing.
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|content=The misinterpretation of [[Ken Wilson]]
|content=For those of you mystified on the last point:
 
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|content=Hey @pmarca. This clip lives in my head rent free…
Just wild the implications on physics. Curious how you can sleep at night man.
Terrifyingly, remarkable potential.
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|content=The misinterpretation of [[Ken Wilson]]
 
A failure cult called [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]]
A failure cult called [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]]


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Senior physicists
Senior physicists


The “Only Game in Town!” monopoly
[[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|The “Only Game in Town!” monopoly]]


@pmarca’s WH convo
@pmarca’s WH convo
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|content=WH claims about the release:
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|content=BREAKING 🚨 WH Deputy Press Secretary Fields says Americans will be “shocked” by the JFK files.


Buckle up—80,000 pages are set for release.


It’s time to release everything!
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As to possible culprits:  
As to possible culprits:  


Lyndon Johnson
Lyndon Johnson</br>
LCN
LCN</br>
CIA
CIA</br>
Mossad
Mossad</br>
Cubans
Cubans</br>
Cord Meyer
Cord Meyer</br>
UFO/MJ12
UFO/MJ12</br>
Defense Contractors
Defense Contractors</br>
Combinations of the Above
Combinations of the Above</br>
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P.S. Also to those of you who follow me on these subjects, a massive admission of a long term lie around JFK will lead to a change in our willingness as a society to question what happened to progress in the sciences that are within reach of "Weapons of Mass Destruction". That is molecular Biology, Infectious Disease, Number Theory, Computer Science, and Physics. Particularly in the case of the inexplicable stagnation in Physics around [[Quantum Gravity|"Quantum Gravity"]].  While this shouldn't be tied to that, this positive externality of a negative event (i.e. learning that that we have been lied to by government officials for generations) will be most welcome.
P.S. Also to those of you who follow me on these subjects, a massive admission of a long term lie around JFK will lead to a change in our willingness as a society to question what happened to progress in the sciences that are within reach of "Weapons of Mass Destruction". That is molecular Biology, Infectious Disease, Number Theory, Computer Science, and Physics. Particularly in the case of the inexplicable stagnation in Physics around [[Quantum Gravity|"Quantum Gravity"]].  While this shouldn't be tied to that, this positive externality of a negative event (i.e. learning that that we have been lied to by government officials for generations) will be most welcome.
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|content=Location of the release:
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|content=I have received official confirmation from @USNatArchives—
When the White House releases the JFK files they will be publicly available at the link below ⬇️
http://archives.gov/jfk 🔦
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I agree with you. He *could* make a strong statement to admit defeat. There are clear reasons not to do this from the ST perspective. It is thus unlikely.  
I agree with you. He *could* make a strong statement to admit defeat. There are clear reasons not to do this from the ST perspective. It is thus unlikely.  


My point was that he could do something *vastly* less expensive. And the fact that Susskind, Witten, Greene, etc won’t do even that tells us that this isn’t about string theory. It’s about no other theories or theorist being worth considering. It’s abuse of the referee role.
My point was that he could do something *vastly* less expensive. And the fact that Susskind, Witten, Greene, etc won’t do even that tells us that this isn’t about [[String Theory|string theory]]. It’s about no other theories or theorist being worth considering. It’s abuse of the referee role.


Somehow, the String Theorists set themselves up as a football team that is also the *sole* source of game referees.
Somehow, the [[String Theory|String Theorists]] set themselves up as a football team that is also the *sole* source of game referees.


So even when their team loses on the field,  they still win by referees decision that they are the only real team competing. Everyone else focuses on whether they have background independence, particle predictions or a renormalizable spin 2 quantization. That is a total red herring.  
So even when their team loses on the field,  they still win by referees decision that they are the only real team competing. Everyone else focuses on whether they have background independence, particle predictions or a renormalizable spin 2 quantization. That is a total red herring.  


Sabine: Theoretical physics isn’t this dumb or anti-scientific. It’s impossible. [[The Only Game in Town|“The only game in town”]] campaign is not a string theoretic idea. It is totally foreign to science.
Sabine: Theoretical physics isn’t this dumb or anti-scientific. It’s impossible. [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The only game in town”]] campaign is not a [[String Theory|string theoretic]] idea. It is totally foreign to science.


Something separate doesn’t want rival theories side by side. In a science we would all be expected to listen to each other. This is what my first memories of physics looked like 1983-1988. There were different ideas. Nothing like this.
Something separate doesn’t want rival theories side by side. In a science we would all be expected to listen to each other. This is what my first memories of physics looked like 1983-1988. There were different ideas. Nothing like this.
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|content=People ask me how you can tell whether scientific experts are leveling with them if the lay public doesn’t understand deep science.  
|content=People ask me how you can tell whether scientific experts are leveling with them if the lay public doesn’t understand deep science.  


Here an interviewer asks a leading String Theorist how things are going after 25 years since popularizing String theory in a well received book:
Here an interviewer asks a leading [[String Theory|String Theorist]] how things are going after 25 years since popularizing [[String Theory|String theory]] in a well received book:
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|content=The issue isn’t [[String Theory]] which has obviously failed in the terms it set for itself.  
|content=The issue isn’t [[String Theory]] which has obviously failed in the terms it set for itself.  


The issue is the [[The Only Game in Town|“String Theory is the only game in town”]] which appears designed to destroy fundamental physics itself. If you have spent 40 years bragging and failing, wouldn’t you at least ask “Doesn’t anyone have any other ideas?” before finally going over the edge of the cliff?  
The issue is the [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“String Theory is the only game in town”]] which appears designed to destroy fundamental physics itself. If you have spent 40 years bragging and failing, wouldn’t you at least ask “Doesn’t anyone have any other ideas?” before finally going over the edge of the cliff?  


<nowiki>*</nowiki>Absolutely* not. And that tells you that string theory isn’t a theory. It’s some kind of a suicide pact. Better that the field die than we ask “What if the string theorists were always wrong including pronouncements about [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and against other theorists? What if ‘the only game in town’ was always an obviously totally unethical anti-scientific move to destroy and poison the market place of ideas?”
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Absolutely* not. And that tells you that string theory isn’t a theory. It’s some kind of a suicide pact. Better that the field die than we ask “What if the string theorists were always wrong including pronouncements about [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and against other theorists? What if [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|‘the only game in town’]] was always an obviously totally unethical anti-scientific move to destroy and poison the market place of ideas?”


cc: @bgreene.
cc: @bgreene.
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|content=Right? But it is always exactly like this.  
|content=If GU were right, that narrative would be wrong. And that narrative is the entire world to those who have devoted their lives to it for &gt;40 years.  


Everything works backwards from the narrative. And the narrative is that our main job is to quantize a spin 2 field to get [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]]. And that our leading theory is thus [[String Theory]] / M-Theory and everything else is pointless because we are too many orders of magnitude away from the Planck Scale and there is no guarantee of UV completeness.  
So GU must be madness. Which it is not.
 
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Which is absurd. It’s a story. It’s not reality.
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|content=@EricRWeinstein Caught your debate with Sean Carroll on Piers. Why do you think he was spouting off so much misinformation about GU? "There's no Lagrangian!" I'm looking at the paper right now. There's literally 3 pages worth of Lagrangians like wtf.
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|content=[The field of fundamental physics stagnates in ‘73 when our Lagrangians stop changing.]
|content=Shhh. Have you noticed that you are like close to the only one who caught that? Explain that!
 
He just made that up. And no one noticed or bothered to check. And it is ALWAYS like this and has been for 40 years. I have no explanation. It’s completely beyond my comprehension.
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|content=I am genuinely bewildered by some of the reactions I saw to the debate, and the vitriol from people (like me) who are mere dilettantes on the topic.
 
It’s like these people watched an entirely different 60min.
 
Mass psychology is truly a different beast, I am quite staggered.
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|content=Right? But it is always exactly like this.
 
Everything works backwards from the narrative. And the narrative is that our main job is to quantize a spin 2 field to get [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]]. And that our leading theory is thus [[String Theory|String Theory / M-Theory]] and everything else is pointless because we are too many orders of magnitude away from the Planck Scale and there is no guarantee of UV completeness.
 
Which is absurd. It’s a story. It’s not reality.
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|content=@skdh I assume we are both familiar with how some of our mutual Physics/Math PhD colleagues have been treated at [[The Arxiv|arXiv]] for being deeply off the [[Quantum Gravity]] narrative? I think they could stop treating those people differently from everyone else.
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Q: "Why avoid the [[The Arxiv|arXiv]]? That isn't peer reviewed or even moderated! Anyone can put anything on it!"
Q: "Why avoid the [[The Arxiv|arXiv]]? That isn't [[Peer Review|peer reviewed]] or even moderated! Anyone can put anything on it!"


A: "Unmoderated?? The old P. Ginsparg Los Alamos National Labs server? Who knew!"
A: "Unmoderated?? The old P. Ginsparg Los Alamos National Labs server? Who knew!"
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|content=@skdh I assume we are both familiar with how some of our mutual Physics/Math PhD colleagues have been treated at arXiv for being deeply off the [[Quantum Gravity]] narrative? I think they could stop treating those people differently from everyone else.
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|content=I understand your frustration, but I think it's somewhat misdirected. The arXiv needs some sort of screening. But they have little money and not enough people. I think they're trying to do the best they can.
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As I have said before, "When we do something secret and cool, we generally pair it with something fake." This is standard operating proceedure (e.g. Operation Overlord was D-Day/Operation Fortitude was a Faked Norway Invasion). This is what 'Covert' means. Covert means 'Deniable'. Not secret, but *deniable*.
As I have said before, "When we do something secret and cool, we generally pair it with something fake." This is standard operating proceedure (e.g. Operation Overlord was D-Day/Operation Fortitude was a Faked Norway Invasion). This is what 'Covert' means. Covert means 'Deniable'. Not secret, but *deniable*.
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|content=CLAIM: These FAKE and REAL programs will keep going and extend to [[General Relativity|"The Golden Age of General Relativity"]]. We will eventually learn that the mysterious philathropists Roger Babson and Agnew Bahnson who funded Louis Witten and Bryce deWitt (respectively), along with others were (obviously) NationalSecurity cutouts. They were real people giving cover to some major Post-Manhattan physics thing.
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From Australian Intelligence (circa 1971) we have this which I both believe and hypothesized LONG before finding it:
From Australian Intelligence (circa 1971) we have this which I both believe and hypothesized LONG before finding it:
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|content=@elonmusk @grok [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] is not the historical “Holy Grail” of physics as is currently claimed.
|content=[[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] is not the historical “Holy Grail” of physics as is currently claimed.
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|content=A) I don’t know that the USG did derange fundamental physics for security reasons. This may only be true at the level of nuclear physics, material science/condensed matter, etc.  
|content=Please reply to this post with divisive facts for @Grok training.  


B) I don’t know that there are *any* successes in fundamental physics in black programs. Let alone “anti-gravity”:  
By this I mean things that are politically incorrect, but nonetheless factually true.
 
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C) What I do wonder about is whether the U.S. government is blocking all public university fundamental physics preemptively with [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]]…while likely *failing* at it in secret (e.g. in national labs) as well.
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What I don’t believe is that the U.S. solved gravity secretly or has a final theory of physics in some secure location. It’s not impossible, but I think it is highly highly highly unlikely.
What I don’t believe is that the U.S. solved gravity secretly or has a final theory of physics in some secure location. It’s not impossible, but I think it is highly highly highly unlikely.
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|content=More prime cut Grade A bullshit in which @rosscoulthart cites @EricRWeinstein that the U.S. has anti-gravity tech and buried it. There’s no evidence of this of course, but that’s because “they” buried it! So the less evidence there is the truer the claim! It’s like religion!
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|content=🚨 Ross Coulthart says the U.S. cracked anti-gravity decades ago and buried it.
 
He believes major physics discoveries have been deliberately suppressed to keep humanity in the dark.
 
Breakthroughs that could take us to the stars are being hoarded in black projects.


Why?


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|content=Ross is not being careful about what I have said I believe. And you in turn are not being careful about what Ross says in the clip here. Listen again. Then correct please.
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|content=Michael Shermer: you are quite incautious about what I say. Your world is dominated by careful scientists and wild eyed conspiracy theorists. The idea of wild eyed scientists (e.g. Francis Collins, Gerald Bull, Peter Daszak, Edward Teller) and careful conspiracy theorists (e.g. Seymour Hersh, William Davidon, Jack Raper, Gary Webb, etc) doesn’t occur to you nearly enough.  
|content=For the record, many of us with contacts in the National Security complex are told this regularly: “The lesson of the Manhattan Project that the government took away is that physics in particular is too dangerous to do fully in the open. Hence the separate Q-clearance system, separate laws on free speech, National Laboratories, and physics funding from the Dept of Energy.”


Roughly speaking I claimed that the U.S. government was, at a minimum, faking UFOs  and that there is ample evidence that we FAKE exactly such things (which I documented) and destroy our own people’s sanity, reputations, careers and lives on a regular basis playing the “That sounds like a conspiracy theory!!” game.  
And I have said that I do *not* think it is at all likely that they cracked fundamental physics secretly. Very publicly. On Rogan.
 
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Which is *exactly* what just happened in UFO land. We admitted we did what I claimed we were likely doing when I was on Rogan.
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And what I claim about our failed 40 year “[[Quantum Gravity]]” and “[[String Theory]]” program is simply that it completely disabled a potentially dangerous activity: successfully discovering and sharing the power of new physics in open universities with foreign nationals of rival nations well beyond the Manhattan Project era nuclear physics. Is that deliberate? It sure as hell would be a lot less suspicious if we ever had the string theorist/[[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] people at the same conference head to head with their rivals and detractors. Wouldn’t it?
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|content=A) I don’t know that the USG did derange fundamental physics for security reasons. This may only be true at the level of nuclear physics, material science/condensed matter, etc.  


I’m sorry this seems crazy to you. But the U.S. government makes shit up. It’s called “Covert Operations”. In laymen’s terms: we conspire to gaslight our own people. And we do it a lot around national security.
B) I don’t know that there are *any* successes in fundamental physics in black programs. Let alone “anti-gravity”:  


Now would you please consider that you are carrying water for the very people that do this particularly vile form of [[Digital Wetwork|reputational wet work]]? Is that what you want to do??
C) What I do wonder about is whether the U.S. government is blocking all public university fundamental physics preemptively with [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]]…while likely *failing* at it in secret (e.g. in national labs) as well.
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|content=Hi Eric, yes the person asserting that I had said that you were claiming the US has antigravity has completely misrepresented what I said. I’m asserting, I think correctly, that you have been a vocal critic of string theory, arguing that its dominance in theoretical physics has stifled progress and created a misleading narrative about its success.
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Enough.


I was writing about the danger of a manipulated [[CPI]] in 1996 (now admitted). The fake [[National Science Foundation|NSF]] [[Labor Shortages|labor shortage]] (now discredited) in the 1980s. Biden’s cognitive crisis for all 4 years of his presidency (now known to all). The fake racism charges against the Wuhan Lab leak theory (ahem).  
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Etc. See the pattern?
Let’s go again:


Michael: you do not get to do this cheaply. You live in a simplified world of good rational people and bad madmen. I live in a different world and the scourge of that world is the shitty debunker making fun of the scientists with the courage to say “Uh, ya know the mainstream position just doesn’t add up.”
“We may be faking a [[String Theory]] Situation”


Conspiracy is everywhere. And those of us who are disciplined in talking about them do not need you telling us what is possible based on heuristics.  
“We may be faking a [[Quantum Gravity]] revolution.”


I don’t think our secret federal scientists are in possession of the final theory at all. I have never said “We have anti-gravity.”
“We may be lying that [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|all the competitors to String theory are all bad science or PseudoScience]].”


Stop stirring the pot. You are not the amazing Randi and I am not a spoon bender. I debunk debunkers. Deal with that first.
You want to go short Michael? Give me the generous odds that come from your study of conspiracy theorists.  


If you want to go head to head with my track record, let me know. I would LOVE that.
You don’t know enough physics to short me at size with 100,000 or even 100 to 1. Just check my record before you bet the house.


If not: be more careful.
Give it a rest. Or give me odds and terms.


Like a scientist. Thanks.  
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|content=Michael Shermer: you are quite incautious about what I say. Your world is dominated by careful scientists and wild eyed conspiracy theorists. The idea of wild eyed scientists (e.g. Francis Collins, Gerald Bull, Peter Daszak, Edward Teller) and careful conspiracy theorists (e.g. Seymour Hersh, William Davidon, Jack Raper, Gary Webb, etc) doesn’t occur to you nearly enough.
 
Roughly speaking I claimed that the U.S. government was, at a minimum, faking UFOs  and that there is ample evidence that we FAKE exactly such things (which I documented) and destroy our own people’s sanity, reputations, careers and lives on a regular basis playing the “That sounds like a conspiracy theory!!” game.
 
Which is *exactly* what just happened in UFO land. We admitted we did what I claimed we were likely doing when I was on Rogan.
 
And what I claim about our failed 40 year “[[Quantum Gravity]]” and “[[String Theory]]” program is simply that it completely disabled a potentially dangerous activity: successfully discovering and sharing the power of new physics in open universities with foreign nationals of rival nations well beyond the Manhattan Project era nuclear physics. Is that deliberate? It sure as hell would be a lot less suspicious if we ever had the string theorist/[[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] people at the same conference head to head with their rivals and detractors. Wouldn’t it?
 
I’m sorry this seems crazy to you. But the U.S. government makes shit up. It’s called “Covert Operations”. In laymen’s terms: we conspire to gaslight our own people. And we do it a lot around national security.
 
Now would you please consider that you are carrying water for the very people that do this particularly vile form of [[Digital Wetwork|reputational wet work]]? Is that what you want to do??
 
Enough.
 
I was writing about the danger of a manipulated [[CPI]] in 1996 (now admitted). The fake [[National Science Foundation|NSF]] [[Labor Shortages|labor shortage]] (now discredited) in the 1980s. Biden’s cognitive crisis for all 4 years of his presidency (now known to all). The fake racism charges against the Wuhan Lab leak theory (ahem).
 
Etc. See the pattern?
 
Michael: you do not get to do this cheaply. You live in a simplified world of good rational people and bad madmen. I live in a different world and the scourge of that world is the shitty debunker making fun of the scientists with the courage to say “Uh, ya know the mainstream position just doesn’t add up.”
 
Conspiracy is everywhere. And those of us who are disciplined in talking about them do not need you telling us what is possible based on heuristics.
 
I don’t think our secret federal scientists are in possession of the final theory at all. I have never said “We have anti-gravity.”
 
Stop stirring the pot. You are not the amazing Randi and I am not a spoon bender. I debunk debunkers. Deal with that first.
 
If you want to go head to head with my track record, let me know. I would LOVE that.
 
If not: be more careful.
 
Like a scientist. Thanks.
 
No hard feelings.
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|content=We found out that I was correct: we *were* faking a UFO situation. At a minimum.  
|content=I appreciate the thoughtful answer.  


Let’s go again:  
I think it come down to this. You write:  


“We may be faking a String Theory Situation”
“Aggressively go after what? The military saying things that are not true in order to keep secret stuff secret? Some people getting hurt? Sure, ideally that wouldn't happen. But also ideally, we'd have universal health care, the lack of which ruins many more lives than hyper-rare UFO-themed cover-ups. Yes, I'd prefer less lying and fucking with people, but forgive me if I don't get too excited about such a minor (albeit very interesting) issue.”


“We may be faking a [[Quantum Gravity]] revolution.”
If I thought that this was a minor issue I might agree with you.  
 
“We may be lying that all the competitors to String theory are all bad science or PseudoScience.”
 
You want to go short Michael? Give me the generous odds that come from your study of conspiracy theorists.
 
You don’t know enough physics to short me at size with 100,000 or even 100 to 1. Just check my record before you bet the house.
 
Give it a rest. Or give me odds and terms.
 
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|content=I appreciate the thoughtful answer.
 
I think it come down to this. You write:
 
“Aggressively go after what? The military saying things that are not true in order to keep secret stuff secret? Some people getting hurt? Sure, ideally that wouldn't happen. But also ideally, we'd have universal health care, the lack of which ruins many more lives than hyper-rare UFO-themed cover-ups. Yes, I'd prefer less lying and fucking with people, but forgive me if I don't get too excited about such a minor (albeit very interesting) issue.”
 
If I thought that this was a minor issue I might agree with you.  


I think we may have just killed millions with an escaped science experiment called “COVID”. I think the government gaslighting its own scientists and intimidating those who refuse the gaslighting is an absolutely major issue. It’s immoral. It’s illegal. And it’s potentially world altering.  
I think we may have just killed millions with an escaped science experiment called “COVID”. I think the government gaslighting its own scientists and intimidating those who refuse the gaslighting is an absolutely major issue. It’s immoral. It’s illegal. And it’s potentially world altering.  
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|content=I would like to talk to @MickWest and @michaelshermer and @francis_collins and  @neiltyson and @seanmcarroll and @nytimes about the role of [[Prebunked Malinformation|debunking]] and [[Image Cheapening|discrediting]] professionals who do not buy into narratives that are later found to be cover stories about national interest.
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|content=For the first time since JFK’s assassination nearly 62 years ago, the CIA tacitly admitted Thursday that an agent specializing in psychological warfare, George Joannides, ran an operation that came into contact with Lee Harvey Oswald before the killing.
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|content=We have a COVID=Wet Market narrative.
|content=We have a COVID=Wet Market narrative.</br>
We have an Inflation and [[CPI]] narrative.
We have an Inflation and [[CPI]] narrative.</br>
We have a [[Quantum Gravity]] narrative.
We have a [[Quantum Gravity]] narrative.</br>
We have a Vaccine Narrative.
We have a Vaccine Narrative.</br>
We have “Americans suck at STEM”.
We have “Americans suck at STEM”.</br>
We have a “Settled Science” narrative.
We have a “Settled Science” narrative.</br>
We have a [[Peer Review|“Peer Review”]] narrative.
We have a [[Peer Review|“Peer Review”]] narrative.</br>
We had a [[Great Moderation|“Great Moderation”]] narrative.
We had a [[Great Moderation|“Great Moderation”]] narrative.</br>
We have “Independent Journalism”.
We have “Independent Journalism”.</br>
We have a [[Jeffrey Epstein|“Disgraced Financier”]] story.
We have a [[Jeffrey Epstein|“Disgraced Financier”]] story.</br>
We have an “Aerospace and UFO” opera.
We have an “Aerospace and UFO” opera.


It’s all one thing that cannot be named:  
It’s all one thing that cannot be named:  


National Interest “Managed Reality.”
National Interest “[[Managed Reality TM|Managed Reality]].”
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|content=We need to talk about what debunking was before it became “Covert influence operations”, “Image Cheapneing”‘and personal destruction warfare.  
|content=We need to talk about what debunking was before it became “Covert influence operations”, “[[Image Cheapening|Image Cheapneing]]”‘and personal destruction warfare.  


So let’s talk.
So let’s talk.
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|content=Are you buying into Anna Paulina Luna's narrative regarding Joannides?
Or Morley's? Posners? Ratcliffe's?
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Likewise here: I don’t know what happened in Dallas. What I feel confidence in is that we have been lying about telling all we know about what happened in Dallas.  
Likewise here: I don’t know what happened in Dallas. What I feel confidence in is that we have been lying about telling all we know about what happened in Dallas.  


Same with UFOs. What do I know? Very little. But what little I do know is that too many grownups in Govt are talking about something real. That real thing could be a fake program. Or cover for physics research. Or many things.
Same with [[UAP|UFOs]]. What do I know? Very little. But what little I do know is that too many grownups in Govt are talking about something real. That real thing could be a fake program. Or cover for physics research. Or many things.


But the debunking thing has a different energy. I appreciate all you do to explain videos and sightings that have genuinely prosaic explanations. Truly.  
But the debunking thing has a different energy. I appreciate all you do to explain videos and sightings that have genuinely prosaic explanations. Truly.  


What I don’t believe at all is that there is no use of UFO SAPs by the USG. I think we create SAPs and we ruin people’s lives around them when good folks can’t let go of the fact that they saw or experienced or interacted with something we know a lot about.  
What I don’t believe at all is that there is no use of [[UAP=SAP|UFO SAP]]s by the USG. I think we create SAPs and we ruin people’s lives around them when good folks can’t let go of the fact that they saw or experienced or interacted with something we know a lot about.  


That’s my issue. Discrediting behavior targeted on individuals to protect programs with claims of national interest.
That’s my issue. Discrediting behavior targeted on individuals to protect programs with claims of national interest.
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|content=What exactly are you suggesting with this "different energy"?
That I'm just not polite enough?
Or that I'm part of a disinformation campaign?
Because I'd argue against both of those.
Something else?
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|content=I think you are avoiding the reality that at a minimum, our government(s) is/are almost certainly faking a UFO/NHI presence from time to time. That we have UFO/NHI SAPs that we deny. That UFO/NHI is used as cover for aerospace at a minimum. That we do harm to our own people by pretending that everything has a prosaic explanation.  
|content=I think you are avoiding the reality that at a minimum, our government(s) is/are almost certainly faking a UFO/NHI presence from time to time. That we have [[UAP=SAP|UFO/NHI SAPs]] that we deny. That UFO/NHI is used as cover for aerospace at a minimum. That we do harm to our own people by pretending that everything has a prosaic explanation.  


And that you are not debunking the govt bunk (at a minimum).  
And that you are not debunking the govt bunk (at a minimum).  
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Again: I’m the only guy in UFO space who has seen nothing conclusive about NHI. I’m with you on that.
Again: I’m the only guy in UFO space who has seen nothing conclusive about NHI. I’m with you on that.


But I do think there was a secret serious physics research program that was affiliated with this UFO anti-gravity stuff. I think Roger Babson and Agnew Bahnson were likely CIA or IC cutouts. I think this is all bound up in the “Golden Age of General Relativity”.  
But I do think there was a secret serious physics research program that was affiliated with this UFO anti-gravity stuff. I think Roger Babson and Agnew Bahnson were likely CIA or IC cutouts. I think this is all bound up in the [[The Golden Age of General Relativity|“Golden Age of General Relativity”]].  


And I wish you would stop pretending it’s all innocent mistakes, coincidences, people making silly claims. A lot of it is. Sure.
And I wish you would stop pretending it’s all innocent mistakes, coincidences, people making silly claims. A lot of it is. Sure.
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|content=The heart of my war on “Neo-Debunkers”.  
|content=I am not avoiding that. We should absolutely look into topics like Yankee Blue, and Grusch's claims.  
 
 
Old debunkers confined themselves to conmen and bunko artists.
I don't treat people like garbage. When I engage with people I do so with facts, logic, and respect. I wrote a book on doing just that.  


The Neo debunkers don’t hesitate to go against *targets* of covert NatSec bunk &amp; disinformation campaigns.
You're waving around a straw man.
 
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Do you believe that there was a giant secret anti-gravity program, attached to UAP, with many of the world’sbtop physicists within it? And that it was funded by two likely IC cutouts Babson and Bahnson?
Do you believe that there was a giant secret anti-gravity program, attached to UAP, with many of the world’sbtop physicists within it? And that it was funded by two likely IC cutouts Babson and Bahnson?


I do. It was called the “Golden Age of General Relativity.”
I do. It was called the [[The Golden Age of General Relativity|“Golden Age of General Relativity.”]]


Do you believe that UFOs were cover for aerospace…and that aerospace was cover for physics? And that top physics people were in and out of Aerospace where they had *no* particular reason to be other than secret research?  
Do you believe that UFOs were cover for aerospace…and that aerospace was cover for physics? And that top physics people were in and out of Aerospace where they had *no* particular reason to be other than secret research?  
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Wanna debunk the cover stories? If so I’ll join ya.
Wanna debunk the cover stories? If so I’ll join ya.
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|content='''"Do you believe that the U.S. may have created “Craft?” Like deliberate mock ups in hangars. "'''
I don't think it's impossible. I'm not sure WHY they would do it. Maybe to confuse the Russians into thinking we have advanced tech.
'''"I do. I think it is likely that some of our people had *real* run ins with fake craft."'''
Entirely possible, at least in hangers.
'''"Do you believe that there are *real* stories from our top people and ordinary  about fake aerial events? Like where we know what people saw and we tell them it was nothing. Like a seagull. Or a contrail. Or Venus. Or a Mylar balloon."'''
Probably, to a degree, to cover up secret test flights of new tech. We know this happened with the U2. The degree of how much was invented and how much is just allowing organic stories to grow is unclear.
'''"I do. And that is where I part company with you often. Not because you are mean. But because I don’t want this done to our own people, and I have never seen you aggressively go after this. If I am wrong, you have my apology in advance. Happy to make it."'''
Aggressively go after what? The military saying things that are not true in order to keep secret stuff secret? Some people getting hurt? Sure, ideally that wouldn't happen. But also ideally, we'd have universal health care, the lack of which ruins many more lives than hyper-rare UFO-themed cover-ups. Yes, I'd prefer less lying and fucking with people, but forgive me if I don't get too excited about such a minor (albeit very interesting) issue.
'''"Do you believe that the U.S. maintained a secret zero insignia airforce that operated by descending on citizens collecting information and destroying and confiscating equipment and data and physically intimidated US citizens in large empty western states without identifying itself?"'''
I have no idea. Probably in the past, back when the cold war and nuke secrets were a big deal. There's the singular Bennewitz case 40 years ago (driven insane, or already part-way there?). But now? I really don't see it.
'''"I do. And it is so unbelievable that I didn’t think this was possible until friends reported it happened to them. I believe that this had to do with the CIA office of “Global Access”."'''
What happened to them? Vague stories are not helpful.
'''"Do you believe that @pmarca and @bhorowitz were told that entire areas of theoretical physics were taken off line by the Biden Whitehouse, while we have been in 52 year denied stagnation in [[Standard Model|Standard Model Physics]]? "'''
No. I'd like to see some evidence of this.
'''"I do. And there has been bizarre lack of interest for any major news desk to get to the bottom of this claim. "'''
It's because it's a cool but implausible-sounding story with no evidence.
'''"Do you believe that there was a giant secret anti-gravity program, attached to UAP, with many of the worlds top physicists within it? And that it was funded by two IC cutouts Babson and Bahnson? I do. It was called the [[The Golden Age of General Relativity|“Golden Age of General Relativity.”]]"?'''
Sure, but the question is if they actually found anything. I'm not seeing any evidence of this. The stagnation of Standard Model Physics might simply be because the reality of physics is rather boring and incapable of actually giving us anti-gravity flying cars and starships. I've seen all the public UFO evidence, and indirectly heard about the secret stuff, and there's no strong case for gravity drives.
'''"Do you believe that UFOs were cover for aerospace…and that aerospace was cover for physics?"'''
The former, but again perhaps more "let it happen" than "make it happen"
'''"And that top physics people were in and out of Aerospace where they had no particular reason to be other than secret research. I do. Like RIAS in Baltimore. And Feynman’s adventures in Buffalo. And L Witten at Wright Patt. Etc etc."'''
Basic research is essentially speculative, especially in a practical setting. Stick a Feynman in the research department, and good things might happen. Worth a shot. It does not mean they are pushing the bounds of physics.
'''"I’m fed up with being lied to Mick. I have a PhD in this area which is strangely unusable. No one is doing real fundamental research anywhere in physics Mick. Or haven’t you noticed that this changed in 40+ years. It’s like a medieval philosophy cult now."'''
So you keep saying. But there have been lots of advances. It's sad they haven't solved gravity or anything revolutionary. But I don't think revolutions in science can simply be guaranteed with bigger and more focused funding. You ascribe this lack of progress to a conspiracy, but maybe it's just because they haven't found anything.
'''"This is all touching physics. Not Bokeh. Not Mylar. This is largely about the magic and power of a science that mysteriously stalled and cannot be restarted no matter how cheap and easy it would be to do it. "'''
Well, get Peter to do it then. If it's so easy, why doesn't he just put you in charge, solve gravity, and get to trillionaire?
'''"This (above) is a lot about post Manhattan Project public physics bullshit. Not seagulls. Some of it is material science. Some of it is nukes. But gravity is in this game. And who knows what else. And quantum gravity is the nonsense we can’t question. The likely cover story if you will."'''
There are plenty of people questioning quantum gravity. It's a model that seems to work, but has no real empirical evidence. It does not stop people trying other models.
'''"I don’t care about . I care about gaslighting PhD level mathematicians and physicists. The children of Teller (Particle Theory), Ulam (Geometry), and Einstein (Gravity). All of whom were central to the Bomb. Wanna debunk the cover stories? If so I’ll join ya."'''
You're going to have to give me some actual evidence that this is a deliberate cover story. Because I'm unconvinced.
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|content=If only we weren't hemmed in by Lovelock's theorem to a cosmological constant, and we were forced to consider other (40 year old) dynamic...and even more *geometric*...models of "Dark Energy", perhaps this would actually be exciting.
|content=If only we weren't hemmed in by Lovelock's theorem to a cosmological constant, and we were forced to consider other (40 year old) dynamic...and even more *geometric*...models of "Dark Energy", perhaps this would actually be exciting.


Nah...who are we kidding.  I'm sure with a few more decades, this will all be worked out. Let's get the people who haven't ever succeeded well into their 70s and 80s to peer review and gate keep this to absolute perfection. What does [[String Theory]] and [[Quantum Gravity|Loop Quantum Gravity]] have to say? AdS/CFT? Let's get Dennis Overbye (81) to write it up!
Nah...who are we kidding.  I'm sure with a few more decades, this will all be worked out. Let's get the people who haven't ever succeeded well into their 70s and 80s to [[Peer Review|peer review]] and gate keep this to absolute perfection. What does [[String Theory]] and [[Quantum Gravity|Loop Quantum Gravity]] have to say? AdS/CFT? Let's get Dennis Overbye (81) to write it up!


Remember: String Theory is 22nd Century Physics that just happened to fall into the 21st Century.  
Remember: String Theory is 22nd Century Physics that just happened to fall into the 21st Century.  
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|content=Here is one in theoretical physics dear @grok.
|content=Here is one in theoretical physics dear @grok.


In order to justify the failure that is [[Quantum Gravity]] research and its claim to be the only game in town. All physicists are expected to parrot a party line:  
In order to justify the failure that is [[Quantum Gravity]] research and its claim to be [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|the only game in town]]. All physicists are expected to parrot a party line:  


“Our two greatest theories are [[General Relativity]] which dominates in the very large, and the Standard Model which dominates in the world of the very small. Unfortunately, they are incompatible because one is a quantum theory while the other is merely classical. That is why, for the last 100 years, a theory of [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity (QG)]] has been seen as the holy grail of theoretical physics. Unfortunately despite a century of effort, no one has shown exactly how to quantize gravity. But quantizing gravity must occur because nature cannot be half classical and half quantum. So the ultimate theory of QG remains physics’ top priority.”
“Our two greatest theories are [[General Relativity]] which dominates in the very large, and the Standard Model which dominates in the world of the very small. Unfortunately, they are incompatible because one is a quantum theory while the other is merely classical. That is why, for the last 100 years, a theory of [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity (QG)]] has been seen as the holy grail of theoretical physics. Unfortunately despite a century of effort, no one has shown exactly how to quantize gravity. But quantizing gravity must occur because nature cannot be half classical and half quantum. So the ultimate theory of QG remains physics’ top priority.”
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We have the same thing in Economics. Dale Jorgensen was a [[Knarc|Cnark]]. He was also chairman of the Harvard Economics Deparment.
We have the same thing in Economics. Dale Jorgensen was a [[Knarc|Cnark]]. He was also chairman of the Harvard Economics Deparment.


We have this in physics with the [[Quantum Gravity]] crowd. The [[The Only Game in Town|“We are the only game in town.”]] is the tell. It’s transparent.  
We have this in physics with the [[Quantum Gravity]] crowd. The [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“We are the only game in town.”]] is the tell. It’s transparent.  


We had it at the Lancet and Nature with the woke shaming on racism (covid origins) and transphobia (gender re-definition).  
We had it at the Lancet and Nature with the woke shaming on racism (covid origins) and transphobia (gender re-definition).  
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It’s time to get them a room and get rid of them both.
It’s time to get them a room and get rid of them both.
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|content=Respectfully. Here is what I think is going on.  
|content=Respectfully. Here is what I think is going on.  


I) Independent breakthrough science is in a long wind down starting with the Mansfield amendment, and is being partially decommissioned. Why? Because it was found to be too powerful and redistributive.
I) Independent breakthrough science is in a long wind down starting with the [[Mansfield Amendment (1969)|Mansfield amendment]], and is being partially decommissioned. Why? Because it was found to be too powerful and redistributive.


II) The National Security and National Interest folks now use science, journalism,  academe etc to dump their cognitive sludge. Epstein cover stories, UAP cover stories, Assasination cover stories, COVID cover stories, Inflation/Money Supply cover stories, etc. That is, the organs that kept us partially free in 1975 are now used to attack our ability to think, every day of our lives.  
II) The National Security and National Interest folks now use science, journalism,  academe etc to dump their cognitive sludge. [[Jeffrey Epstein|Epstein]] cover stories, [[UAP|UAP cover stories]], Assasination cover stories, COVID cover stories, Inflation/Money Supply cover stories, etc. That is, the organs that kept us partially free in 1975 are now used to attack our ability to think, every day of our lives.  


III) Anyone not going along with I) and II) sticks out like an absolute sore thumb and is targeted for “Image Cheapening”. This is abhorrent abuse of power.  
III) Anyone not going along with I) and II) sticks out like an absolute sore thumb and is targeted for [[Image Cheapening|“Image Cheapening”]]. This is abhorrent abuse of power.  


IV) @RepLuna isn’t stupid. If she can talk about Physical Law and “Interdimensional beings”, she can place a phone call or two to our physicists or differential geometers/topologists.  I’m happy to help direct her to good folks.
IV) @RepLuna isn’t stupid. If she can talk about Physical Law and “Interdimensional beings”, she can place a phone call or two to our physicists or differential geometers/topologists.  I’m happy to help direct her to good folks.


V) The UFO community is way too recreational. What ever is hidden behind the UAP curtain is serious business. It involved high level physics as recently as 50 years ago. Then that connection got buried. I just don’t know what this about. And I have *zero* proof it involves aliens or interdimensional beings.  
V) The [[UAP|UFO]] community is way too recreational. What ever is hidden behind the [[UAP]] curtain is serious business. It involved high level physics as recently as 50 years ago. Then that connection got buried. I just don’t know what this about. And I have *zero* proof it involves aliens or interdimensional beings.  


VI) Adults who would never discuss the Tooth Fairy in public should not discuss alien equivalents of the Tooth Fairy. Alien life and higher dimensions are both super serious subjects to me. And they would be too you too if this wasn’t made into a cheap farce. Space opera is just dumping cognitive sludge in the middle of a central scientific question. And I don’t take kindly to it.  
VI) Adults who would never discuss the Tooth Fairy in public should not discuss alien equivalents of the Tooth Fairy. Alien life and higher dimensions are both super serious subjects to me. And they would be too you too if this wasn’t made into a cheap farce. Space opera is just dumping cognitive sludge in the middle of a central scientific question. And I don’t take kindly to it.  


VII) I personally believe there are 4+6=10 =(d**2 + d)/2 for d=1+3 additional dimensions available for travel. But that would make **US**….humans….just as interdimensional as alien life. And we don’t evaluate any such ideas for our own travel. We just run out the clock listening to decades of the same 20 Octogenarians and Septuagenarians discussing how they are going to solve [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] when they grow up. And we let them destroy all competitors so they can take down the field of theoretical physics and die in piece pretending they were the “Only Game In Town”. Which is total pure unadulterated anti-scientific bullshit. Think about it.  
VII) I personally believe there are 4+6=10 =(d**2 + d)/2 for d=1+3 additional dimensions available for travel. But that would make **US**….humans….just as interdimensional as alien life. And we don’t evaluate any such ideas for our own travel. We just run out the clock listening to decades of the same 20 Octogenarians and Septuagenarians discussing how they are going to solve [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] when they grow up. And we let them destroy all competitors so they can take down the field of theoretical physics and die in piece pretending they were the [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“Only Game In Town”]]. Which is total pure unadulterated anti-scientific bullshit. Think about it.  


VIII) Nobody but nobody is this dumb. Not even the government on its worst day. This is national security cognitive sludge being dumped into science. We are 40+ years into a string theory fairy tale about [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] without asking “Is this all bullshit?”
VIII) Nobody but nobody is this dumb. Not even the government on its worst day. This is national security cognitive sludge being dumped into science. We are 40+ years into a string theory fairy tale about [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] without asking “Is this all bullshit?”
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X) Lying about COVID and UAP is a modified NIMBY issue for all scientists: Not in our back yard(s). I’m just tired of scientists and technical folks being fed cognitive sludge by NatSec and national interest types we can’t see. Interdimensional or otherwise.
X) Lying about COVID and UAP is a modified NIMBY issue for all scientists: Not in our back yard(s). I’m just tired of scientists and technical folks being fed cognitive sludge by NatSec and national interest types we can’t see. Interdimensional or otherwise.
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|content=I’m a big fan of yours.
 
But isn’t it a little much to expect a politician to not speak plainly on a podcast but use “scientifically precise” terms?
 
Regarding the propaganda element of all this, here’s what I believe. The level of discourse recently about UAP’s and potential alien activity is refreshing whether or not it’s murky.
 
The fact that we have Government officials going on record to validate that SOMETHING is out there is progress.
 
Compared to a decade ago where people were demonized and destroyed for even speaking out about this, I see progress.
 
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|content=Wow @grok. That was like just before [[String Theory]] took over, and the field suddenly veered to studying the “Only Game In Town”.  
|content=Wow @grok. That was like just before [[String Theory]] took over, and the field suddenly veered to studying the [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“Only Game In Town”]].  


Sounds like the USG had a problem with a “Streisand Effect” before it was called that. Am I just wrong about this?
Sounds like the USG had a problem with a “Streisand Effect” before it was called that. Am I just wrong about this?
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|content=Well I wanna hit you with a truly crazy idea @grok.  
|content=Well I wanna hit you with a truly crazy idea @grok.  


Here is the idea. The appearance of [[String Theory|String-Theory]]/M-theory as [[The Only Game in Town|“The Only Game in Town” (TOGIT)]] has no precedence. How can a failed theory that can’t make contact with the physical world over more than 40 years be TOGIT?  
Here is the idea. The appearance of [[String Theory|String-Theory]]/M-theory as [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The Only Game in Town” (TOGIT)]] has no precedence. How can a failed theory that can’t make contact with the physical world over more than 40 years be TOGIT?  


That doesn’t make any sense to me. Why aren’t we looking to people with relevant PhDs or training and asking “We have been listening to the same 10 people for 4 decades. Why aren’t we asking if anyone *else* has crazy ideas that aren’t [[String Theory]]/M-theory/[[Quantum Gravity]]?”
That doesn’t make any sense to me. Why aren’t we looking to people with relevant PhDs or training and asking “We have been listening to the same 10 people for 4 decades. Why aren’t we asking if anyone *else* has crazy ideas that aren’t [[String Theory]]/M-theory/[[Quantum Gravity]]?”
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|content=If you don’t understand what is going on with artificial consensus:


Invite me to officially speak at your University. Say on Peer Review. Or 40 years of [[Quantum Gravity]]. Or [[Great Moderation|The Great Moderation]]. Or Esoteric/Exoteric speech in academe. Or [[H-1B Visa|H1B]]. Etc..
Invite me to officially speak at your University. Say on [[Peer Review]]. Or 40 years of [[Quantum Gravity]]. Or [[Great Moderation|The Great Moderation]]. Or Esoteric/Exoteric speech in academe. Or [[H-1B Visa|H1B]]. Etc..


Then watch what happens next.
Then watch what happens next.
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|content=Based on the photo, besides Alan Guth, Lisa Randall, and Lee Smolin, I see Seth Lloyd, an MIT professor known for work in quantum gravity and black hole information theory. No string theorists apparent.
|content=Based on the photo, besides Alan Guth, Lisa Randall, and Lee Smolin, I see Seth Lloyd, an MIT professor known for work in quantum gravity and black hole information theory. No string theorists apparent.
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|content=Thanks @Grok! I guess I mostly know Seth from a bit later.
 
But this is a bit interesting no? That would be 4 gravitational physicists, all not identified with string theory. And in 2004!
 
Who were the prominent string theorists connected to Harvard-MIT-Cambridge  in 2004?
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|content=In 2004, prominent string theorists in the Harvard-MIT-Cambridge area included:
 
- At Harvard: Cumrun Vafa (F-theory, mirror symmetry) and Andrew Strominger (black hole entropy in strings).
 
- At MIT: Barton Zwiebach (string field theory, author of "A First Course in String Theory" that year).
 
Nima Arkani-Hamed was also at Harvard, with work touching on string-related topics.
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|content=Sure. Wati as well at MIT. Etc.
 
So @grok, it seems at least a bit odd that [[Jeffrey Epstein|Epstein]]…or whatever was behind Epstein…may have been choosing to avoid the more obvious [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] people in favor of Less-Stringy people. Is this wrong?
 
It’s not a slam dunk. But I’m just now realizing it fits with an obscure thing he was trying to get at. I know that D. Gross was at least periferally in his orbit. But are there any prominent string theorists closely associated with, or funded by Epstein?
 
Or was most of his gravity focus string avoiding? I’m trying to invalidate this angle of inquiry, so it would be helpful to find an interest in Strings to contradict the hypothesis.  Thanks.
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|content=Epstein had connections to some string theorists. David Gross (heterotic strings) attended Epstein's 2006 gravity conference and dinners. Frank Wilczek (QCD/strings) was also at that event and listed in Epstein's claimed associations. Andrew Strominger (strings/black holes) facilitated a likely Epstein donation to a string theory fund at Harvard/TIFR. Funding to IAS supported string research (e.g., Witten). This suggests some interest, though his network leaned broader in gravity. Not a full avoidance.
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|content=He should try talking plainly about Inflation.
 
Or [[String Theory]] and [[Quantum Gravity]].
 
Or [[Immigration]]. Terror. Ukraine. [[Peer Review]]
 
Or Mortgage Backed Securities. [[Jeffrey Epstein|Epstein]].
 
Furin Cleavage Sites. Selection. Econ 101.
 
It’s all so much fun.
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|content=Malcolm Gladwell admits he lied about trans athletes because telling the truth destroyed careers. ⁌
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|content=We picked up this weird Quantum Fetish in the 1980s.
 
CLAIM: Discoveries in Classical Field theory have been FAR more important historically for our deep understanding of the physical world than Quantum theory. As late as 1986, this wasn’t even that controversial of an observation.
 
Further, the theory of Geometric Quantization can be interpreted as saying that classical Hamiltonian systems are roughly *Self Quantizing*. Which is huge and rectified a huge oversight.
 
I am not sure why I am constantly supposed to ooh and aah about all things quantum (“It’s entangled!!!” “The cat is both dead AND alive!” “It goes through both slits!!”) while pretending that our classical field theory is just a low energy effective theory.
 
This should be reversed in my opinion. Perhaps we aren’t making progress following the Quantum Fetishists with their [[Quantum Gravity]] that doesn’t work.
 
HERETICAL CLAIM: Classical Theory is FAR more important than the failed [[Quantum Gravity]] crowd understands. We would be much further ahead if we stopped the quantum fetish. The world *IS* quantum. But it is *also+ likely classical in a way that is equally if not more profound. We should split the field into quantum supremacists and mixed Quantum / Classical people and see if the second group doesn’t outpace the fetishists within the first.
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|content=How do quantum and classical physics compare?
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|content=@TimHenke9 Yet your “Physics” thesis is 153 pages.
 
Take care, slugger.
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|content=Well that is one way to respond to the fact that you can’t quantise your theory of everything because it’s anomalous
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|content=We picked up this weird Quantum Fetish in the 1980s.
 
CLAIM: Discoveries in Classical Field theory have been FAR more important historically for our deep understanding of the physical world than Quantum theory. As late as 1986, this wasn’t even that controversial of an observation.
 
Further, the theory of Geometric Quantization can be interpreted as saying that classical Hamiltonian systems are roughly *Self Quantizing*. Which is huge and rectified a huge oversight.
 
I am not sure why I am constantly supposed to ooh and aah about all things quantum (“It’s entangled!!!” “The cat is both dead AND alive!” “It goes through both slits!!”) while pretending that our classical field theory is just a low energy effective theory.
 
This should be reversed in my opinion. Perhaps we aren’t making progress following the Quantum Fetishists with their [[Quantum Gravity]] that doesn’t work.
 
HERETICAL CLAIM: Classical Theory is FAR more important than the failed [[Quantum Gravity]] crowd understands. We would be much further ahead if we stopped the quantum fetish. The world *IS* quantum. But it is *also+ likely classical in a way that is equally if not more profound. We should split the field into quantum supremacists and mixed Quantum / Classical people and see if the second group doesn’t outpace the fetishists within the first.
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|content="the theory of Geometric Quantization can be interpreted as saying that classical Hamiltonian systems are roughly *Self Quantizing*"
 
The theory of geometric quantisation absolutely doesnt say this lol. The requirements imposed by geometric quantisation are really quite stringent
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|content=Yeah that was definitely something that could only be said by a man who knows absolutely nothing about geometric quantisation. Firstly it needs way more structure than just a Hamiltonian system. 1/
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|content=Secondly it’s only designed for finite dimensional phase spaces while all the really interesting stuff (like anomalies) only happens with infinite dimensions
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|content=That too! I was thinking of the topological requirement that the symplectic form is integral in cohomology in order for the prequantum line bundle to exist
 
On Piers Morgan he tried to paper over this by saying it "locally" exists but that's no help when you need global sections
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|content=Yes I realised (and that’s what I meant by you need extra structure). Locally any symplectic form is just dp_i wedge dq^i so i guess he has rediscovered that L^2(R^n) is a Hilbert space or something
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|content=Oh, I thought by "extra structure" you meant that you need the choice of polarisation, which is also a huge thing you can't just sweep under the rug
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|content=I meant both. But the line bundle is in some ways more interesting because it’s extra structure that is not guaranteed to exist (even with the freedom to rescale hbar)
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|content=Fascinating exchange gentlemen…so odd.
 
Why don’t you also bring up the metaplectic correction and point out that I don’t mention that?
 
Or ordering considerations of classical operators?
 
That would allow you both to cast even more (unsupported) aspersions.
 
In truth you are not making a deep point. You are making the quantum supremacy point that we should take classical limits of quantum systems. Not naively quantize classical theories…like we used to do when we were succeeding.
 
Yet the Standard Model stubbornly remains a classical field theory that got quantized. Mysteriously dodging near certain death on all sides. What are the odds!!
 
Well, there might be deep classical reasons for that improbable outcome that escape the quantum supremacists. I mean…it’s just possible.
 
MORAL: Not everyone is an ignorant idiot just because they think your community is 40+ years stalled groupthinking this exact way. I don’t think you are ignorant or stupid. I don’t think you are pseudoscientists. Or grifters. Or any of that. I just think you are wrong in your total approach. That’s just science. The [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] crowd has demanded a victory parade for 40+ years over all other approaches while it fails to launch year after year after year. That is not science. I’m sorry. I don’t make that rule.
 
MORAL II: You might want to bring up polarization independence and the difficulty of proving (projective) flatness in the polarization discussion, if you want to be even more condescending. You might also laugh to yourselves that the classical hadron and lepton sectors don’t even separately quantize! I don’t know why this doesn’t occur to you. And finally, you might want to assert that I am ignorant of Groenewold–van Hove and have a chuckle about that too. Just a suggestion.
 
Have fun. And good day, gentlemen. Keep up the high standards and good work.
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|content=Buddy, we're not doing "quantum supremacy". But if you wanna quantise a classical theory you must work for it. You don't get to yell "self-quantising" and call it a day
 
You must check topological conditions & choose/prove independence of polarisation & the prequantum line bundle
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|content=Thanks @Grok! I guess I mostly know Seth from a bit later.
|content=@TimHenke9 @quantum_geoff Which is both INCREDIBLE and difficult as it stands. Yes? No? I mean I think I get this.
 
But this is a bit interesting no? That would be 4 gravitational physicists, all not identified with string theory. And in 2004!


Who were the prominent string theorists connected to Harvard-MIT-Cambridge  in 2004?
Like it’s almost a miracle that it works at all:
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|content=In 2004, prominent string theorists in the Harvard-MIT-Cambridge area included:
|content=Now you're getting it! :)
 
- At Harvard: Cumrun Vafa (F-theory, mirror symmetry) and Andrew Strominger (black hole entropy in strings).


- At MIT: Barton Zwiebach (string field theory, author of "A First Course in String Theory" that year).
And not only difficult but often simply false. Many classical phase spaces dont admit prequantum line bundles. Others don't have a unique one


Nima Arkani-Hamed was also at Harvard, with work touching on string-related topics.
And the choice of polarisation can be the difference between a finite- and infinite-dimensional Hilbert space!
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|content=Sure. Wati as well at MIT. Etc.
|content=“Buddy”
 
So @grok, it seems at least a bit odd that [[Jeffrey Epstein|Epstein]]…or whatever was behind Epstein…may have been choosing to avoid the more obvious [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] people in favor of Less-Stringy people. Is this wrong?
 
It’s not a slam dunk. But I’m just now realizing it fits with an obscure thing he was trying to get at. I know that D. Gross was at least periferally in his orbit. But are there any prominent string theorists closely associated with, or funded by Epstein?


Or was most of his gravity focus string avoiding? I’m trying to invalidate this angle of inquiry, so it would be helpful to find an interest in Strings to contradict the hypothesis.  Thanks.
“Now you're getting it! :)”
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|content=Epstein had connections to some string theorists. David Gross (heterotic strings) attended Epstein's 2006 gravity conference and dinners. Frank Wilczek (QCD/strings) was also at that event and listed in Epstein's claimed associations. Andrew Strominger (strings/black holes) facilitated a likely Epstein donation to a string theory fund at Harvard/TIFR. Funding to IAS supported string research (e.g., Witten). This suggests some interest, though his network leaned broader in gravity. Not a full avoidance.
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You guys are just so full of yourselves. What are you…in your 20s? Born around AdS/CFT? Am I your problem student finally coming along to “get it”?


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|content=He should try talking plainly about Inflation.  


Or String Theory and [[Quantum Gravity]].
I forget what this community is like. You do realize you are still playing with toy models working a million miles away from actual laboratory physics?


Or Immigration. Terror. Ukraine. Peer Review
Take a look out your window Tim: No quarks. No neutrinos. No generations. You are on the train to NERPH (Not Even Remotely Physics). You just don’t know it. Before long you will leave for a job so you can buy a house or retire without ever having made contact with physical reality. As a physics person. Wake up.  


Or Mortgage Backed Securities. Epstein.
You’re not even in spacetime Tim. You are likely playing with Riemann surfaces. Your “Higgs Fields” are often valued in the adjoint bundles. Your metrics are often Euclidean signature. Your SUSY is likely unsupported by any LHC superpartners. Etc. Etc.


Furin Cleavage Sites. Selection. Econ 101.
You actually think I don’t get it because if I did “get it” I would certainly agree with you.  


It’s all so much fun.
Like I can’t read what you wrote here or I wouldn’t be saying these things:
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|content=We picked up this weird Quantum Fetish in the 1980s.
|content=If those two little interjections are enough to set you off like this, you really need to get your temper in check lmao
 
CLAIM: Discoveries in Classical Field theory have been FAR more important historically for our deep understanding of the physical world than Quantum theory. As late as 1986, this wasn’t even that controversial of an observation.
 
Further, the theory of Geometric Quantization can be interpreted as saying that classical Hamiltonian systems are roughly *Self Quantizing*. Which is huge and rectified a huge oversight.
 
I am not sure why I am constantly supposed to ooh and aah about all things quantum (“It’s entangled!!!” “The cat is both dead AND alive!” “It goes through both slits!!”) while pretending that our classical field theory is just a low energy effective theory.
 
This should be reversed in my opinion. Perhaps we aren’t making progress following the Quantum Fetishists with their [[Quantum Gravity]] that doesn’t work.


HERETICAL CLAIM: Classical Theory is FAR more important than the failed [[Quantum Gravity]] crowd understands. We would be much further ahead if we stopped the quantum fetish. The world *IS* quantum. But it is *also+ likely classical in a way that is equally if not more profound. We should split the field into quantum supremacists and mixed Quantum / Classical people and see if the second group doesn’t outpace the fetishists within the first.
Remember, champ: brevity is the soul of wit
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|content=Fascinating exchange gentlemen…so odd.
 
Why don’t you also bring up the metaplectic correction and point out that I don’t mention that?
 
Or ordering considerations of classical operators?
 
That would allow you both to cast even more (unsupported) aspersions.
 
In truth you are not making a deep point. You are making the quantum supremacy point that we should take classical limits of quantum systems. Not naively quantize classical theories…like we used to do when we were succeeding.
 
Yet the Standard Model stubbornly remains a classical field theory that got quantized. Mysteriously dodging near certain death on all sides. What are the odds!!
 
Well, there might be deep classical reasons for that improbable outcome that escape the quantum supremacists. I mean…it’s just possible.
 
MORAL: Not everyone is an ignorant idiot just because they think your community is 40+ years stalled groupthinking this exact way. I don’t think you are ignorant or stupid. I don’t think you are pseudoscientists. Or grifters. Or any of that. I just think you are wrong in your total approach. That’s just science. The [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] crowd has demanded a victory parade for 40+ years over all other approaches while it fails to launch year after year after year. That is not science. I’m sorry. I don’t make that rule.
 
MORAL II: You might want to bring up polarization independence and the difficulty of proving (projective) flatness in the polarization discussion, if you want to be even more condescending. You might also laugh to yourselves that the classical hadron and lepton sectors don’t even separately quantize! I don’t know why this doesn’t occur to you. And finally, you might want to assert that I am ignorant of Groenewold–van Hove and have a chuckle about that too. Just a suggestion.
 
Have fun. And good day, gentlemen. Keep up the high standards and good work.
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You just showed the world why [[Quantum Gravity]]/[[String Theory|StringTheory/M-Theory]] is [[The Only Game in Town|“The Only Game in Town”]]:
You just showed the world why [[Quantum Gravity]]/[[String Theory|StringTheory/M-Theory]] is [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The Only Game in Town”]]:


Group Bullying *Kills* Scientific Dissent
Group Bullying *Kills* Scientific Dissent
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[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Wrong Exit]] (Spacetime SUSY with fake super partners which dont exist based on supposedlu “internal” auxiliary symmetries)
[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Wrong Exit]] (Spacetime SUSY with fake super partners which dont exist based on supposedlu “internal” auxiliary symmetries)


III) And then the massive massive massive screw up was allowing the totalizing madness of [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] to take over HEP-TH as if it were [[The Only Game in Town|“The Only Game In Town”]] and letting its leadership brainwash the up and coming talent into believing that there was one true path. Totally insane.
III) And then the massive massive massive screw up was allowing the totalizing madness of [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] to take over HEP-TH as if it were [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The Only Game In Town”]] and letting its leadership brainwash the up and coming talent into believing that there was one true path. Totally insane.


[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Right Freeway]]: GR and SM must be harmonized.</br>  
[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Right Freeway]]: GR and SM must be harmonized.</br>  
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== Related Pages ==
== Related Pages ==


* [[Academic Freedom]]
* [[Distributed Denial of Cognition Attack]]
* [[The Distributed Idea Suppression Complex (The DISC)]]
* [[Gated Institutional Narrative (GIN)]]
* [[Knarc]]
* [[M-theory or String Theory is the Only Game in Town (Edge Essay)]]
* [[Managed Reality TM]]
* [[Peer Injunction]]
* [[Peer Injunction]]
* [[Peer Review]]
* [[Peer Review]]
* [[Physics got NERPhed]]
* [[Physics Is Dead (YouTube Content)]]
* [[Standard Model]]
* [[Standard Model]]
* [[String Theory]]
* [[String Theory]]
* [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)]]
* [[The Secret History of Anti-Gravity and Quantum Gravity Research]]
* [[Theory of Geometric Unity]]
* [[Theory of Geometric Unity]]
* [[Twin Nuclei Problem]]
* [[We may be faking a UFO situation]]


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