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|content=Ahh, that's annoying.
So gravity defines spacetime, ferimons depend on spacetime, quantizing gravity alters spacetime's nature ∴ the 'stage' on which all matter exists and interacts becomes uncertain and probabilistic at a fundamental level.
And we all casually nod heads. Hmmm
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|content=That I can explain. I am convinced that there are clear reasons that gravity/metrics are different than all other fields that indicate that the entire 70 year [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] program hasn’t been thought through at a basic level. This says “Making Gravity quantum destroys all matter.” That’s sorta sloppy. But you can’t DEFINE matter (spinors) without gravity (a metric). So you CAN’T casually quantize gravity. It seems kinda basic.
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Maybe I’m just not getting it. Don’t want to confuse others if I’m wrong. But I don’t get any of the explanations that come back. And that usually means the [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] community is not on top of their game historically.
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|content=Is there in instance where there is value making this digestible for a layman or is it always a gated intellectual niche (ha) that kinda sits outside of my purview?
Is there value in bringing this down or does it lose its authenticity and become a facsimile if we simplify?
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|content=That I can explain. I am convinced that there are clear reasons that gravity/metrics are different than all other fields that indicate that the entire 70 year [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] program hasn’t been thought through at a basic level. This says “Making Gravity quantum destroys all matter.” That’s sorta sloppy. But you can’t DEFINE matter (spinors) without gravity (a metric). So you CAN’T casually quantize gravity. It seems kinda basic.
Maybe I’m just not getting it. Don’t want to confuse others if I’m wrong. But I don’t get any of the explanations that come back. And that usually means the [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] community is not on top of their game historically.
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We look like the Keystone Cops.
We look like the Keystone Cops.


https://t.co/GMkXaQ04Bd
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kona-blue-causing-split-between-intel-agencies-dod-coulthart/ar-AA1ngzu3
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"News Story:  Physicists ‘Bootstrap’ Validity of String Theory NYU and Caltech scientists develop innovative mathematical approach to back existence of long-held framework explaining all physical reality"
"News Story:  Physicists ‘Bootstrap’ Validity of String Theory NYU and Caltech scientists develop innovative mathematical approach to back existence of long-held framework explaining all physical reality"


https://t.co/Clq4GGS2cJ
https://nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2024/december/physicists--bootstrap--validity-of-string-theory-.html
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|content=Certain strategies, used in politics, are also used by various angry scientists who have found ways to made it big in the media.  These strategies are effective.  But they must indeed be translated, just as Sam suggests here. https://x.com/Samuel_Gregson/status/1870158470575427620
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|timestamp=7:50 PM · Dec 22, 2024
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|content=I fail to see the relation between my comment and yours, Eric. I was hardly referring to the topics that you mentioned, and neither was Sam.
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The big problem for fundamental physics is institutional sensationalism, excuse-making, and cheerleading for failing programs as well as anti-collegial behavior of the form that SG regularly tries to turn into disparagment for entertainment.  
The big problem for fundamental physics is institutional sensationalism, excuse-making, and cheerleading for failing programs as well as anti-collegial behavior of the form that SG regularly tries to turn into disparagment for entertainment.  


Many of those independent critical voices are actually focused on *institutional* sensationalism particularly surrounding outrageous claims for particle theory,  [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and String Theory/m-theory.  
Many of those independent critical voices are actually focused on *institutional* sensationalism particularly surrounding outrageous claims for particle theory,  [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and [[String Theory|String Theory/m-theory]].  


I generally view your public outreach work very favorably, communicating the beauty of the Standard Model, and to a lesser extent GR. Within research, you  mostly seem to be trying to connect String Theory and other speculative frameworks to things like experimental accelerator signatures. Despite my distaste for 4-decades of anti-scientfic String Triumphalism and dissembling from the Susskinds, Wittens, Motls, Grosses and others, I have never associated that with you.
I generally view your public outreach work very favorably, communicating the beauty of the Standard Model, and to a lesser extent GR. Within research, you  mostly seem to be trying to connect String Theory and other speculative frameworks to things like experimental accelerator signatures. Despite my distaste for 4-decades of anti-scientfic String Triumphalism and dissembling from the Susskinds, Wittens, Motls, Grosses and others, I have never associated that with you.
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SG can man up and take Sabine on if he likes. But the man has an anti-collegial strawman problem followed by blocking.
SG can man up and take Sabine on if he likes. But the man has an anti-collegial strawman problem followed by blocking.
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|content=Sabine Hossenfelder does not propose any alternative.
Critics makes no sense until there is alternative solution.
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|timestamp=9:33 AM · Dec 23, 2024
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