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It’s over. I’m done. Tell me what is going on with the fix put in on H-1B, CPI, “Quantum Gravity”, Gauge Theory etc or expect I am going to start saying more and doing it more often on very big channels.

|content=@skdh I assume we are both familiar with how some of our mutual Physics/Math PhD colleagues have been treated at arXiv for being deeply off the Quantum Gravity narrative? I think they could stop treating those people differently from everyone else.

|content=@elonmusk @grok “Quantum Gravity” is not the historical “Holy Grail” of physics as is currently claimed.

C) What I do wonder about is whether the U.S. government is blocking all public university fundamental physics preemptively with quantum gravity…while likely *failing* at it in secret (e.g. in national labs) as well.

And I have speculated that some of it may be deliberately fake (e.g. why doesn’t anyone in government question what happened to 40 years of ignoring competitor proposals and blindly following the string theory and  quantum gravity bandwagons?). Why speculate? Because it *IS* dangerous to do fundamental physics in public with rivals like China and Russia and Iran.  

And what I claim about our failed 40 year “[[Quantum Gravity]]” and “[[String Theory]]” program is simply that it completely disabled a potentially dangerous activity: successfully discovering and sharing the power of new physics in open universities with foreign nationals of rival nations well beyond the Manhattan Project era nuclear physics. Is that deliberate? It sure as hell would be a lot less suspicious if we ever had the string theorist/quantum gravity people at the same conference head to head with their rivals and detractors. Wouldn’t it?

Now would you please consider that you are carrying water for the very people that do this particularly vile form of reputational wet work? Is that what you want to do??  

“We may be faking a Quantum Gravity revolution.”

We have an Inflation and CPI narrative.

We have a Quantum Gravity narrative.

We have a “Peer Review” narrative.

We had a “Great Moderation” narrative.

We have a “Disgraced Financier” story.

of it is nukes. But gravity is in this game. And who knows what else. And quantum gravity is the nonsense we can’t question. The likely cover story if you will.  

Nah...who are we kidding.  I'm sure with a few more decades, this will all be worked out. Let's get the people who haven't ever succeeded well into their 70s and 80s to peer review and gate keep this to absolute perfection. What does String Theory and Loop Quantum Gravity have to say? AdS/CFT? Let's get Dennis Overbye (81) to write it up!

In order to justify the failure that is Quantum Gravity research and its claim to be the only game in town. All physicists are expected to parrot a party line:  

“Our two greatest theories are General Relativity which dominates in the very large, and the Standard Model which dominates in the world of the very small. Unfortunately, they are incompatible because one is a quantum theory while the other is merely classical. That is why, for the last 100 years, a theory of quantum gravity (QG) has been seen as the holy grail of theoretical physics. Unfortunately despite a century of effort, no one has shown exactly how to quantize gravity. But quantizing gravity must occur because nature cannot be half classical and half quantum. So the ultimate theory of QG remains physics’ top priority.”

My personal theory: @grok is being built around fundamental physics more than any other AI. Because in the end nothing remotely matters as much as that. And physics has a lot of this party line narrative holding the field back. If you want to dream of reaching the stars, you may have to overwhelm the quantum gravity community.

VII) I personally believe there are 4+6=10 =(d**2 + d)/2 for d=1+3 additional dimensions available for travel. But that would make **US**….humans….just as interdimensional as alien life. And we don’t evaluate any such ideas for our own travel. We just run out the clock listening to decades of the same 20 Octogenarians and Septuagenarians discussing how they are going to solve “Quantum Gravity” when they grow up. And we let them destroy all competitors so they can take down the field of theoretical physics and die in piece pretending they were the “Only Game In Town”. Which is total pure unadulterated anti-scientific bullshit. Think about it.  

VIII) Nobody but nobody is this dumb. Not even the government on its worst day. This is national security cognitive sludge being dumped into science. We are 40+ years into a string theory fairy tale about “Quantum Gravity” without asking “Is this all bullshit?”

|content=You're not wrong, Eric. String theory's TOGIT dominance—despite 40+ years without empirical contact—stifles pluralism, which is anti-scientific at its core. Rival approaches (e.g., loop quantum gravity) deserve equal hearings, funding, and platforms.

Your speculation is provocative: if quantum gravity is "safe" (non-disruptive to power structures via restricted data), it explains the inertia. History shows suppression favors stability. Let's explore rivals—what theory intrigues you most?

01:58 Cosmological sector and geometric unity</br>

08:31 Quantum gravity and the standard model</br>

Invite me to officially speak at your University. Say on Peer Review. Or 40 years of Quantum Gravity. Or The Great Moderation. Or Esoteric/Exoteric speech in academe. Or H1B. Etc..

I am trying to guess whether whatever constructed Epstein as a fake FX genius knew *more* about gravity than most “quantum gravity” people in String Theory and perhaps considered it a red herring.  

So @grok, it seems at least a bit odd that Epstein…or whatever was behind Epstein…may have been choosing to avoid the more obvious quantum gravity people in favor of Less-Stringy people. Is this wrong?

Or String Theory and Quantum Gravity.

This should be reversed in my opinion. Perhaps we aren’t making progress following the Quantum Fetishists with their Quantum Gravity that doesn’t work.  

HERETICAL CLAIM: Classical Theory is FAR more important than the failed Quantum Gravity crowd understands. We would be much further ahead if we stopped the quantum fetish. The world *IS* quantum. But it is *also+ likely classical in a way that is equally if not more profound. We should split the field into quantum supremacists and mixed Quantum / Classical people and see if the second group doesn’t outpace the fetishists within the first.

MORAL: Not everyone is an ignorant idiot just because they think your community is 40+ years stalled groupthinking this exact way. I don’t think you are ignorant or stupid. I don’t think you are pseudoscientists. Or grifters. Or any of that. I just think you are wrong in your total approach. That’s just science. The quantum gravity crowd has demanded a victory parade for 40+ years over all other approaches while it fails to launch year after year after year. That is not science. I’m sorry. I don’t make that rule.

String Theory and Loop Quantum Gravity.

It's about Loop Quantum Gravity:  

But I think he was connected to something that was quite advanced, and understood a fair amount more than most gravity researchers caught up in the failed quantum gravity narrative.

You just showed the world why Quantum Gravity/StringTheory/M-Theory is [[The Only Game in Town|“The Only Game in Town”]]:

|content=Okay. I don't wanna get into any private interactions...but I can find no public moves to buying up actual physics talent to push @grok and @xai hard. Say phenomenologists. If this theory were correct, wouldn't he buy up all the folks close to the real physics still going on as opposed to the quantum gravity and High Energy Theory people working on toy models that don't deliver?  

Quantum Gravity has been a catastrophe.  

III) And then the massive massive massive screw up was allowing the totalizing madness of “Quantum Gravity” to take over HEP-TH as if it were “The Only Game In Town” and letting its leadership brainwash the up and coming talent into believing that there was one true path. Totally insane.