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|content=P.S. “It hasn’t even failed” because it can’t fail. So far as I can see, it can never fail. In the minds of the faithful, It’s unable to fail because it *has* to be the way forward. It’s hard to explain what’s wrong with that to the enlightened who see its infinite power & glory.
|content=P.S. “It hasn’t even failed” because it can’t fail. So far as I can see, it can never fail. In the minds of the faithful, It’s unable to fail because it *has* to be the way forward. It’s hard to explain what’s wrong with that to the enlightened who see its infinite power & glory.
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|content=What has string theory done to become the poster child of failed physics? It hasn’t even failed.
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|content=A) High energy physics of real particles became the no-energy physics of toy models.
|content=A) High energy physics of real particles became the no-energy physics of toy models.


B) Quantizing Gravity was substituted for unification or extension of the Standard model.
B) [[Quantum Gravity|Quantizing Gravity]] was substituted for unification or extension of the Standard model.


C) Other research programs were obliterated because ST claimed it had it all rapped up.
C) Other research programs were obliterated because ST claimed it had it all rapped up.
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|content=@CurtM2566 You are being distracted then. Focus on [[Quantum Gravity]]. Entanglement is real.
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|content=[[Quantum Gravity]] is a 69 year long slow-motion suicide pact. Can we discuss it? No we cannot. That would require discussing its modern origins in 1953 and 1957.
|content=Quantum Gravity is a 69 year long slow-motion suicide pact. Can we discuss it? No we cannot. That would require discussing its modern origins in 1953 and 1957.


It is, by now, too big to fail. It is not even the elephant in the room. It’s the blue whale in physics’ linen closet.
It is, by now, too big to fail. It is not even the elephant in the room. It’s the blue whale in physics’ linen closet.
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|content=@dingobabyboy Subsumed by [[Quantum Gravity]].
|content=@dingobabyboy Subsumed by [[Quantum Gravity]].
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|content=Beauty *is* a light in the darkness as experiment becomes less accessible. Perhaps our best one.


But not all lights in the darkness are natural daylight leading to the exits from Plato’s cave.
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|content=@CurtM2566 You are being distracted then. Focus on [[Quantum Gravity]]. Entanglement is real.
|content=Instantly stop all progress in the world’s most successful scientific community using only two words inducing permanent paralytic failure that cannot be questioned.
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I’ll go first: [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]]
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|content=you're confusing the symptom with the disease
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|content=Hi Sabine!


I don’t follow your statement here. How am I confused?
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|content=I just meant the cause of the problem is that theoretical physicists don't understand the responsibility they carry when experimental tests take longer and longer. That they got stuck on (a particular idea of) quantum gravity is the effect, but not the cause.
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|content=Hmm. As you know I’m historically a big supporter of your courage & insight as critic. Perhaps you know something here that I do not as a nonphysicist. Open to that.


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But I disagree. The Q-Gravity Mass Delusion is quite different in character. It is highly specific in its effect.
 
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|content=It is tied to all sorts of weirdness involving top physics and math people, bizarre funders, forgotten research institutes, aerospace companies, post Manhattan Project government secrecy, the golden age of General Relativity and
words fail me
outright quackery.
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|content=GUTs are a good test case. I believe you are in error going after Beauty when it comes to Grand Unified Theory. Your critique to Neil Degrasse Tyson recently applied to Georgi and Glashow Basic SU(5)
but not to Pati-Salaam SU(4) x SU(2) x SU(2) for example.
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|content=@skdh I caution that you not fall into the trap of using Beauty as critique.  
|content=I caution that you not fall into the trap of using Beauty as critique.  


The abuse of Beauty in [[String Theory]] and [[Quantum Gravity]] more generally is valid as a target.  
The abuse of Beauty in [[String Theory]] and [[Quantum Gravity]] more generally is valid as a target.  
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|content=Note Added: many readers are making wild inferences about me talking about  flying fakes. I was very clear that this was about apparent crafts on the ground and in Hangars in Nevada, Ohio & elsewhere.
Wild or bad inference patterns will get you blocked. I don’t have time. Thx.
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|content=One of the questions about UFOs that needs to be asked, and that I don’t hear much about, is: “Has the US government built fake UFOs?”
UFO people are so focused on whether there are real UFOs that they don’t push hard enough on this question.
Allow me to share a thought or two. https://t.co/B1FXSmb9Z3
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|content=When I first realized I was totally wrong about UFO/UAP, I was shocked by how many folks have very similar stories about recovered crashes of very similar advanced vehicles.
It was mind blowing in 2 ways.


A) We have real crashed vehicles.
And/Or
B) We built fake alien vehicles. https://t.co/4sOOXDtPoW
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|content=At this point I’m reasonably sure there are things that look like cool alien vehicle in some hangers. But I also grew up near Hollywood and remember super cool looking fake space cars visible off the Hollywood freeway.


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So: does anyone have stories of building fake UFOs for USG? https://t.co/3JuMmOwFRZ
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|content=As you likely guessed, all the photos in this thread are fake military equipment. The airbase is totally fake. The dummy tanks are often inflated on the battlefield. The fake tank pieces are bolted on to real cars.


Q: Did we build fake UFOs in places like Wright-Patterson AFB? https://t.co/VRD9vroHdm
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|content=After studying this issue for 2yrs, I’m pretty convinced that there ARE wild looking vehicles in secret high security locations. But I also find NO SIGN OF OUR TOP PHYSICISTS. That is a huge red flag. If you had fake UFOs, you would have a puzzle for physics: What is the science?
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|content=A true recovered interstellar craft would be like LHC or LIGO data: potential scientific data for physics beyond the Standard Model and General Relativity.
But if the crafts are fake, you would be crazy to let the A-team physicists near them. It would blow up in your face.
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|content=So my ignorant question is this: are there stories of building fake UFOs for sites in Nevada? Ohio? Are there fake retrieval teams? To what extent does faking military equipment spill into faking a UFOgasm for decades?
Because there are too many very similar craft stories. https://t.co/CfXOh0yXdW
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|content=So, at this point, the stories of craft kept at secret locations is most likely to be true in my opinion.  But it is also true that all the top physics talent that was working only semi-covertly on suspicious gravity projects left by the early 1970s. So any craft may be faked.
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|content=Either way, it’s a big deal. Everything changed in the early 70s. It’s impossible to say how much. The moment the Mansfield amendment came in, physics began to stagnate. And [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] destroyed our culture of science. We don’t even whisper about its “Anti-Gravity” origin.
|content=Either way, it’s a big deal. Everything changed in the early 70s. It’s impossible to say how much. The moment the Mansfield amendment came in, physics began to stagnate. And “Quantum Gravity” destroyed our culture of science. We don’t even whisper about its “Anti-Gravity” origin.
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|content=So to sum up: there do *appear* to be craft. But advanced armies all build dummy weapons.
 
Q1: Do we have any Fakes?
Q2: Do we have only Fakes?
Q3: Why do we talk almost  *exclusively* about Technology and not new Post-GR/SM science if there are *any* real interstellar craft?
 
🙏
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