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The '''distributed idea suppression complex''' (DISC) describes the emergent phenomenon of widespread, semi-independent idea suppression. The idea was first introduced in [[ep15|Episode 15]] of [[The Portal Podcast]] and described in detail in [[ep18#Distributed Idea Suppression Complex (DISC)|Episode 18]]. Eric has said he believes this might be the most important concept that we will be dealing with on a going-forward basis in 2020 on The Portal. It's the complex of structures that resulted in fantastic income inequality & unrest breaking out all over the Americas.
The '''Distributed Idea Suppression Complex''' (DISC) describes the emergent phenomenon of widespread, semi-independent idea suppression. The idea was first introduced in [[ep15|Episode 15]] of [[The Portal Podcast]] and described in detail in [[ep18#Distributed Idea Suppression Complex (DISC)|Episode 18]]. Eric has said he believes this might be the most important concept that we will be dealing with on a going-forward basis in 2020 on The Portal. It's the complex of structures that resulted in fantastic income inequality & unrest breaking out all over the Americas.


==Defining its properties==
==Defining its properties==
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'''From the episode Description'''
'''From the episode Description'''


This "housekeeping" (cough cough) episode of The Portal is only for the hard core listeners who launched this experiment with us. This year we begin to take on the idea of the Distributed Idea Suppression Complex or "DISC".  
<blockquote>This "housekeeping" (cough cough) episode of The Portal is only for the hard core listeners who launched this experiment with us. This year we begin to take on the idea of the Distributed Idea Suppression Complex or "DISC".  


From "Terms of Service" changes, to selective enforcement of rules, peer review, "Strategic Silence", 'authoritative sources only', deboosting, shadow banning, down ranking, "unbiasing", "Good Censorship", 'diversity and inclusion' oaths, 'cancel culture', no-platforming, mob shaming, certification requirements, "trust and safety" and quality control, we are surrounded by others interested in various forms of idea suppression who would prefer to work in private. Obviously some, but not all, of those ideas are truly dangerous. But many of those ideas never reached us because they threatened institutional players rather than public safety.  
From "Terms of Service" changes, to selective enforcement of rules, peer review, "Strategic Silence", 'authoritative sources only', deboosting, shadow banning, down ranking, "unbiasing", "Good Censorship", 'diversity and inclusion' oaths, 'cancel culture', no-platforming, mob shaming, certification requirements, "trust and safety" and quality control, we are surrounded by others interested in various forms of idea suppression who would prefer to work in private. Obviously some, but not all, of those ideas are truly dangerous. But many of those ideas never reached us because they threatened institutional players rather than public safety.  


This is the year we begin to do the unthinkable: attempt to fully reveal and slip the DISC. Stay tuned to the Portal for 2020. Or feel free to unsubscribe right now before we change it up...hope to see you soon.
This is the year we begin to do the unthinkable: attempt to fully reveal and slip the DISC. Stay tuned to the Portal for 2020. Or feel free to unsubscribe right now before we change it up...hope to see you soon.
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'''Quotes from episode 18'''
'''Quotes from episode 18'''


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We need to better understand exactly what is the political economy of the news.
We need to better understand exactly what is the political economy of the news.
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==== Quotes from episode 19 ====
==== Quotes from episode 19 ====


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Okay. I want to talk about something I'm calling the DISC, the Distributed Idea Suppression Complex, and it has nothing to do with Richard Dawkins and peer review and Jerry Coyne and a bunch of other things that almost nobody cares about. It has to do with about a 50 year period in which great ideas got buried no matter where they occurred. Because great ideas were very likely to be highly disruptive to an institutional order. And between you and your wife, and me and my wife, three of our four theses ran into incredible problems, because they were trying to break really new ground. And the amount of delay that you suffered, I mean you're now 50 years old. This is a very late start in a career. You're coming from a very inauspicious place. You've been fitted with a story, which is “He's a sweet guy who stood up to a mob and that's his claim to fame” and you're not really understanding that you're not being taken fully seriously as a biologist. In part what Jerry Coyne is saying to you is, “Hey, you're really unknown to us. I'm at Chicago. Richard Dawkins was at Oxford.” You know, he was the Simoni professor for the -
Okay. I want to talk about something I'm calling the DISC, the Distributed Idea Suppression Complex, and it has nothing to do with Richard Dawkins and peer review and Jerry Coyne and a bunch of other things that almost nobody cares about. It has to do with about a 50 year period in which great ideas got buried no matter where they occurred. Because great ideas were very likely to be highly disruptive to an institutional order. And between you and your wife, and me and my wife, three of our four theses ran into incredible problems, because they were trying to break really new ground. And the amount of delay that you suffered, I mean you're now 50 years old. This is a very late start in a career. You're coming from a very inauspicious place. You've been fitted with a story, which is “He's a sweet guy who stood up to a mob and that's his claim to fame” and you're not really understanding that you're not being taken fully seriously as a biologist. In part what Jerry Coyne is saying to you is, “Hey, you're really unknown to us. I'm at Chicago. Richard Dawkins was at Oxford.” You know, he was the Simoni professor for the -


Eric: Look, you see the same thing with like string theory because none of the reporters are actually string theorists, so they're dependent upon this. You saw this with this woman alleging that she had the Epstein story three years earlier, but that the editors said, well, we might lose access to the baby pictures of the Royal grandchildren like, you know, you're seeing this with catch and kill. There's this, I mean, I want you to take this seriously. You're just showing a part of what I'm calling the DISC, the Distributed Idea Suppression Complex. We have 50 years of such stories, and it happens that in our family, three out of four of us created such a story trying to get a PhD. And the idea for me is that every time you have to go into some closed system, like, there's a committee meeting or there's a blue ribbon commission or there's a peer review process, or there's a, what do they call them, the panels—study groups, for grants. That's where the DISC lives. We know that it's localized to the things that protect the integrity of science. It's an autoimmune disease, where what we have is an ability to stop highly disruptive ideas from getting a hearing in the general population of experts, by virtue of the fact that a carefully chosen group of experts can stop publication. Because look, if you're wrong about this stuff, there's a cost. It's not, it's not cheap.
Eric: Look, you see the same thing with like string theory because none of the reporters are actually string theorists, so they're dependent upon this. You saw this with this woman alleging that she had the Epstein story three years earlier, but that the editors said, well, we might lose access to the baby pictures of the Royal grandchildren like, you know, you're seeing this with catch and kill. There's this, I mean, I want you to take this seriously. You're just showing a part of what I'm calling the DISC, the Distributed Idea Suppression Complex. We have 50 years of such stories, and it happens that in our family, three out of four of us created such a story trying to get a PhD. And the idea for me is that every time you have to go into some closed system, like, there's a committee meeting or there's a blue ribbon commission or there's a peer review process, or there's a, what do they call them, the panels—study groups, for grants. That's where the DISC lives. We know that it's localized to the things that protect the integrity of science. It's an autoimmune disease, where what we have is an ability to stop highly disruptive ideas from getting a hearing in the general population of experts, by virtue of the fact that a carefully chosen group of experts can stop publication. Because look, if you're wrong about this stuff, there's a cost. It's not, it's not cheap.
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==== Eric's Quotes from Twitter about the DISC ====
==== Eric's Quotes from Twitter about the DISC ====


 
<blockquote>The enemy is the DISC. Its the complex of structures that resulted in fantastic income inequality & unrest breaking out all over the Earth globe americas. It is what keeps Jamie Dimon safe from Len Bole. David Baltimore from Margot O’Toole. Biden safe from Yang. Institutions safe from Individuals.
 
The enemy is the DISC. Its the complex of structures that resulted in fantastic income inequality & unrest breaking out all over the Earth globe americas. It is what keeps Jamie Dimon safe from Len Bole. David Baltimore from Margot O’Toole. Biden safe from Yang. Institutions safe from Individuals.
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1217886561196339200


But where do we start? As the Distributed Idea Suppression Complex, it isn’t under central control. It is a loosely coupled emergent structure. But the most obvious sector is the one which has fallen the farthest because it once grew the quickest: the modern research university.
But where do we start? As the Distributed Idea Suppression Complex, it isn’t under central control. It is a loosely coupled emergent structure. But the most obvious sector is the one which has fallen the farthest because it once grew the quickest: the modern research university.
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So let’s go after the exhaust vent in the DISC. Let’s get you a future. Jobs in the same city as the one you love. Careers while you‘re young. Let’s get you savings for retirement & help raising your kids.
So let’s go after the exhaust vent in the DISC. Let’s get you a future. Jobs in the same city as the one you love. Careers while you‘re young. Let’s get you savings for retirement & help raising your kids.


But to make this work: stop fetishizing “identity” & build our future.Folded hands
But to make this work: stop fetishizing “identity” & build our future.🙏


- '''Eric Weinstein''' on [https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1217886561196339200 X]
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The DISC does *not* usually try to ensure that you can’t find the story. It may even bring up the story tangentially in something like a “To be sure...” paragraph or in occasional features. It merely ensures that the reality now paved over never becomes operational.  
The DISC does *not* usually try to ensure that you can’t find the story. It may even bring up the story tangentially in something like a “To be sure...” paragraph or in occasional features. It merely ensures that the reality now paved over never becomes operational.  


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End.
End.
 
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This is the '''DISC''':
[https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1220402963455234048 '''This is the DISC:''']


Don’t ask your questions.
Don’t ask your questions.
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Die silently.
Die silently.


'''-Eric Weinstein'''
'''-Eric Weinstein''' on [https://x.com/ericrweinstein/status/1220402963455234048 X]
 
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Unfortunately no one can be told what the D.I.S.C. is:
[https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1225575383983984641 '''Unfortunately no one can be told what the D.I.S.C. is:''']


Terms of service
Terms of service
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Etc.
Etc.


'''-Eric Weinstein'''
'''-Eric Weinstein''' on [https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1225575383983984641 X]
 
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===Eric's Twitter Threads===
==On X==


[https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1220402963455234048 This is the DISC]
[https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1220402963455234048 This is the DISC]
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[https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1221475905219907585 Peer Review]
[https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1221475905219907585 Peer Review]
===Other Examples===
[https://medium.com/@josephparrish/encountering-the-disc-in-democratic-party-da7df9efd7aa Joseph Parrish: Encountering the DISC in the Democratic Party]


== List of Suppressed Ideas ==
== List of Suppressed Ideas ==
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* [[Far-Write / Alt-Write]]
* [[Far-Write / Alt-Write]]
* [[Iago Media]]
* [[Iago Media]]
* [[Image Cheapening]]
* [[Knarc]]
* [[Knarc]]
* [[Kayfabrication]]
* [[Kayfabrication]]
* [[Law of Gaslighting]]
* [[Law of Gaslighting]]
* [[Map the Silences]]
* [[Map the Silences]]
* [[Managed Reality TM]]
* [[New Gimmick Economy]]
* [[New Gimmick Economy]]
* [[No-Living-Heroes Theory]]
* [[No-Living-Heroes Theory]]
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* [[Thinkquisition]]
* [[Thinkquisition]]
* [[Universal Institutional Betrayal]]
* [[Universal Institutional Betrayal]]


== Links ==
== Links ==
* [[18: Slipping the DISC: State of The Portal & Chapter 2020]]
* [[18: Slipping the DISC: State of The Portal & Chapter 2020]]
* [https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1217886552962949121 Long Thread on Eric's Twitter about DISC]
* [https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1217886552962949121 Long Thread on Eric's Twitter about DISC]


[[Category:Slip the DISC]]
[[Category:Slip the DISC]]