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<p><em>00:00:28</em><br>What I see when watching this video of the episode in question is a frightened 53-year-old man in an unscripted-and perhaps occasionally rambling-hour of discussion of Jeffrey Epstein. He doesnāt exactly know how to say what he has | <p><em>00:00:28</em><br>What I see when watching this video of the episode in question is a frightened 53-year-old man in an unscripted-and perhaps occasionally rambling-hour of discussion of Jeffrey Epstein. He doesnāt exactly know how to say what he has to get across, but perhaps that is because he isnāt simply a middle-aged man at all. When I look closer, I see a terrified 10- or 11-year-old boy who, many years ago, was sent to a therapist. Why was that child so terrified of going to see a therapist, you may ask? Well, because of inappropriate events set in motion by the therapistās behavior at the first of their two meetings. That, however, was not what caused the lasting terror. Despite the therapist being a trained and established authority figure and the boy being a minor, it was possible for the boy to simply and firmly say, āNo. I do not want that. You must stop.ā Thus, the boy is not a survivor. He was not a victim, and he did not want a random broken person to be integrated into his life story. | ||
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What was terrifying instead was that when I explained that I did not ever wish to go back to that accursed office, I was forced against my will-and with a good amount of screaming and terror I might add-to go again for a second meeting. At that second meeting, I was intimidated by the failed and inappropriate therapist who was obviously himself terrified. Being forced back into such a dark office alone as a boy, to be berated, threatened, and shamed by an out-of-control representative of the world of institutional authority, alerted me to just how badly outgunned the individual is when confronted by the terrifying reality of institutional actors attempting to silence a lone voice. Why would no one listen to the boy when he told them what had happened? Why wouldnāt any one adult, powerful and credentialed, speak up for that child and his right to be free of the supposed therapy and therapist? Could no one see the terror in the childās eyes? Why, simply because two sessions had been booked, did he need to continue with this random therapist who was clearly a damaged soul and one who needed real therapy much more than the boy? </p> | What was terrifying instead was that when I explained that I did not ever wish to go back to that accursed office, I was forced against my will-and with a good amount of screaming and terror I might add-to go again for a second meeting. At that second meeting, I was intimidated by the failed and inappropriate therapist who was obviously himself terrified. Being forced back into such a dark office alone as a boy, to be berated, threatened, and shamed by an out-of-control representative of the world of institutional authority, alerted me to just how badly outgunned the individual is when confronted by the terrifying reality of institutional actors attempting to silence a lone voice. Why would no one listen to the boy when he told them what had happened? Why wouldnāt any one adult, powerful and credentialed, speak up for that child and his right to be free of the supposed therapy and therapist? Could no one see the terror in the childās eyes? Why, simply because two sessions had been booked, did he need to continue with this random therapist, who was clearly a damaged soul and one who needed real therapy much more than the boy? </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:02:29</em><br>This episode is ultimately about the world of institutions: the institutions of journalism that will regularly destroy individuals by reputation, but | <p><em>00:02:29</em><br>This episode is ultimately about the world of institutions: the institutions of journalism that will regularly destroy individuals by reputation, but which will generally not ask comparable questions of other institutions. The institutions of the intelligence world, which owe us information as to what is known about Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell,Ā and their operation. The institutions of government that will not hold hearings into out-of-control intelligence activities as we did in the 1970s. And the institutions of technology, which track our every move and know all our secrets, yet cannot locate a single individual (like Jeffrey Epsteinās accomplice) who completely improbably seems to have vanished from the face of the earth as of March, 2020. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:03:49</em><br>Why can we not talk openly about the risks to the | <p><em>00:03:49</em><br>Why can we not talk openly about the risks to the individual from the expert and authority classes when there is a conflict between them? </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:04:32</em><br>Well, I have an answer for that boy. One day you will become a man and you will fear loss in the battle between the flawed and vulnerable individual that all adults eventually become, and the amoral institutional world | <p><em>00:04:32</em><br>Well, I have an answer for that boy. One day you will become a man and you will fear loss in the battle between the flawed and vulnerable individual that all adults eventually become, and the amoral institutional world [which] continues to hold most of the best cards. You will learn the story of Jean Seberg, and that alone will change your life. You will not know to whom you can turn. You will come to believe that there is no news media, nor justice system, nor social movement, nor representative government that truly cares about protecting minors. In real terms, when institutional power, money, secrecy, and sex are all woven together, you will become part of the problem by remaining silent for a while to cope with your fears. That is, unless you are able to overcome them [in order] to clear your throat and finally say, āYou know what? I refuse to continue to be part of the charade in this way anymore.ā | ||
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<p><em>00:05:31</em><br>Iām not really here for myself, and Iāve been avoiding this. And perhaps at least directly, Iām not even mostly here for the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and his organization. I am, at last, really here selfishly, for a young boy, long gone, why-abandoned!-to prove to him that it was actually possible at personal risk to stand up for children and against the system. These young girls are no less deserving, of course, but I donāt know any of them personally, so I will stick to the issue that animates me: the individual standing against the institutions | <p><em>00:05:31</em><br>Iām not really here for myself, and Iāve been avoiding this. And perhaps at least directly, Iām not even mostly here for the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and his organization. I am, at last, really here selfishly, for a young boy, long gone, why-abandoned!-to prove to him that it was actually possible at personal risk to stand up for children and against the system. These young girls are no less deserving, of course, but I donāt know any of them personally, so I will stick to the issue that animates me: the individual standing against the institutions [which] would crush him or her. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:06:00</em><br>So, to that long-dead, and previously abandoned former self, let me just say this: āSorry Iām a little late, kid. I, uh, became afraid that the imperfections of what Iām about to say next could derange my adult life and make me vulnerable to those who will destroy anything and anyone who threatens them using everything at their disposal. I apologize for my cowardice. It is one of many character flaws that I am working to correct, but you as a boy did nothing wrong and it will be a pleasure to stand up for you, come what may. Youāre a solid kid who didnāt deserve this, and I think you deserve a better champion, but Jesus wasnāt available | <p><em>00:06:00</em><br>So, to that long-dead, and previously abandoned former self, let me just say this: āSorry Iām a little late, kid. I, uh, became afraid that the imperfections of what Iām about to say next could derange my adult life and make me vulnerable to those who will destroy anything and anyone who threatens them using everything at their disposal. I apologize for my cowardice. It is one of many character flaws that I am working to correct, but you as a boy did nothing wrong and it will be a pleasure to stand up for you, come what may. Youāre a solid kid who didnāt deserve this, and I think you deserve a better champion, but Jesus wasnāt available-so you got me instead. Letās do this thing.ā | ||
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<p><em>00:09:37</em><br>At that point, I also became aware of what I have termed the [https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942821656451457024 Borjas Rectangle Theory]: that is that employers generally, in free market economies, when theyāre complaining about labor shortages, are actually trying to transfer wealth from labor to capital-complaining instead that there is a small inefficiency that needs to be rectified, which we might [in turn] call the Harberger Triangle. So that is, employers claim that thereās a small inefficiency, but in [point of] fact theyāre seeking large transfer payments | <p><em>00:09:37</em><br>At that point, I also became aware of what I have termed the [https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942821656451457024 Borjas Rectangle Theory]: that is that employers generally, in free market economies, when theyāre complaining about labor shortages, are actually trying to transfer wealth from labor to capital-complaining instead that there is a small inefficiency that needs to be rectified, which we might [in turn] call the Harberger Triangle. So that is, employers claim that thereās a small inefficiency, but in [point of] fact theyāre seeking large transfer payments <em>from</em> the vulnerable <em>to</em> the well-heeled. I also believe that NAFTA and the Free Trade Agreement from the 1990s, was a kind of conspiracy supported by the economics establishment of the United States; that they knew that in fact free trade was not a freebie. It was not in fact a rising tide that lifted all boats, but was in fact, again, a transfer, which was claimed to be a pure good for everyone. This is the difference between something called the Kaldor-Hicks objective function and the Pareto objective function. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:11:31</em><br>This brings us to the two trading fortunes in New York City that, during the first decade of the new millennium, made no sense to me. And those were Bernie Madoff, then referred to as the āJewish T-Billā, and Jeffrey Epstein. In the case of Madoff, I made a wrong guess. I believed that Bernie Madoff was frontrunning a traditional business that he held using actual orders that he knew were being placed, and in his hedge fund [he] was effectively cheating-based on the inside information he had from a | <p><em>00:11:31</em><br>This brings us to the two trading fortunes in New York City that, during the first decade of the new millennium, made no sense to me. And those were Bernie Madoff, then referred to as the āJewish T-Billā, and Jeffrey Epstein. In the case of Madoff, I made a wrong guess. I believed that Bernie Madoff was frontrunning a traditional business that he held using actual orders that he knew were being placed, and in his hedge fund [he] was effectively cheating-based on the inside information he had from a <em>legitimate</em> business, in an <em>illegitimate</em> business. I goofed, and I was wrong. In fact, he was operating a pyramid scheme. It didnāt occur to me. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:23:16</em><br>Would an intelligence community ever contemplate using organized crime, such as La Cosa Nostra, in order to carry out an act that it didnāt want to do itself? ***This is what we found the comedian Dick Gregory was considered being subjected to when we found out that the FBI was thinking about having La Cosa Nostra be informed that he had been talking about union activities and labor racketeering.*** So, yes, it is quite possible that the intelligence | <p><em>00:23:16</em><br>Would an intelligence community ever contemplate using organized crime, such as La Cosa Nostra, in order to carry out an act that it didnāt want to do itself? ***This is what we found the comedian Dick Gregory was considered being subjected to when we found out that the FBI was thinking about having La Cosa Nostra be informed that he had been talking about union activities and labor racketeering.*** So, yes, it is quite possible that the intelligence community would use organized crime; this is also a proven fact. | ||
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<p><em>00:24:45</em><br>Is there any attempt to gain control of innocent influencers? That is, are there any circumstances in which people simply have the crime of being influential used against them? In fact, you can look for Section A of the Reserve Index, people to be rounded up in times of national emergency inside the United States. This might include professors, labor organizers, professionals, authors, the independently wealthy. In other words, there is very much an interest in keeping track of people whoāve done nothing wrong, but [who], in times of national emergency, [one] might want to [ensure] are [not] capable of influencing the population. </p> | <p><em>00:24:45</em><br>Is there any attempt to gain control of innocent influencers? That is, are there any circumstances in which people simply have the crime of being influential used against them? In fact, you can look for [[Section A of the Reserve Index]], people to be rounded up in times of national emergency inside the United States. This might include professors, labor organizers, professionals, authors, the independently wealthy. In other words, there is very much an interest in keeping track of people whoāve done nothing wrong, but [who], in times of national emergency, [one] might want to [ensure] are [not] capable of influencing the population. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:47:45</em><br>So what happened inside of the scientific enterprise is that many scientists had some memory from inside of the system when professors would in fact | <p><em>00:47:45</em><br>So what happened inside of the scientific enterprise is that many scientists had some memory from inside of the system, when [potentially] professors would have [had, in fact,] second homes, or even third homes; [when] they would [have been] paid at a level that was commensurate with financiers, or high-priced lawyers. That, in essence, the children of academic families [would have been] growing up with the children of very well-to-do families because there wasnāt, [at that time,] such income and asset inequality in the United States. I believe that the need to pay the scientific community, particularly the top members of the scientific community, at a far higher level, is not a question of taxpayer dollars. Itās a question of, first of all, being fair to the community that created our economyāthose are not taxpayer dollars, theyāre scientific dollars, in my opinion-we can argue that at some other point; but itās also a question of national interest. That is, it is completely irresponsible for us to pretend that the market for scientific research talent should be determined by [the] ability to teach undergraduates. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:48:50</em><br>We should probably decouple the teaching and research enterprises | <p><em>00:48:50</em><br>We should probably decouple the teaching and research enterprises; we should probably get rid of the majority of our research enterprise; and we should take care of the people who are obeying power laws at a very high level for the [sake of] national interest. Itās not a question [of] overpaying them; itās a question of leaving a valuable asset unguarded. And, I believe that Jeffrey Epstein was attempting, in part, to gain control of that asset. Thatās why people like George Church, or Robert Trivers or Stephen Hawking, or any one of a number of people, like Lisa Randall, were found on Jeffrey Epsteinās island. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:49:29</em><br>By the way, I think itās very important to stop using the fun phrases | <p><em>00:49:29</em><br>By the way, I think itās very important to stop using the fun phrases āPedophile Island,ā and āLolita Express,ā when you have people who almost certainly are not part of any kind of orgiastic culture like Lisa Randall or Betsy Devine. Itās ridiculous. In part, what weāre doing is turning a salacious story into a very dangerous national emergency, if in fact Jeffrey Epstein was up to something very different than the mainstream story would have you believe. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:49:58</em><br>So why is it that I am so disturbed by this and coming forward in this way? Well, there are a number of reasons | <p><em>00:49:58</em><br>So why is it that I am so disturbed by this and coming forward in this way? Well, there are a number of reasons; but one of the reasons is that I came to think about the following issue-which I find potentially dispositive. Iāve started asking people who knew Jeffrey Epstein, āDid the character you met, whoever that person was, impress you as being capable, characterologically, of taking his own life out of desperation, when he still clearly had many cards to play?ā He almost certainly had many secrets involving very powerful people. The man I met was so confident and so contemptuous of normal morality, that I donāt believe he was even bothered particularly by the reputation of being a pedophile from his previous stay as a guest of the state of Florida. I believe that Jeffrey Epstein, in fact, was contemptuous. He thought it was ridiculous that he would be jailed for such a thing, and he thought that while itās a matter of petty morality for you and me to mull over, he simply had to make sure that he didnāt run afoul of the system again. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00: | <p><em>00:51:18</em><br>Alright. Assume that Iām correct, that he was such a person who would laugh at the shame that others would bestow upon him. Then something very interesting happens. [Jeffrey Epstein is pronounced dead.] As you go down the various branches of the decision tree, you find that there has to be another unseen force, if this is true. Is he dead or not dead? Well, I can put a small weight on the idea that he isnāt even dead. Peopleās deaths have been faked before. I donāt think that thatās what happened, but itās possible. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:51: | <p><em>00:51:51</em><br>Or, he could be dead. Then he could be dead either by his own hand or the hand of another. If he is dead by his own hand, it could be an induced suicide, as we saw Sullivan was trying to induce in Martin Luther King; or, it could be [by] his own hand. If [by] his own hand, could it be out of fear, out of shame or out of a sense of duty to something more? If he was in fact murdered, a whole would had to [have] been punched in the timeline, so that somebody could have gotten to him; or, there would have to [have been] a tremendous coincidence that somehow he was left alone- in a jail which had not had a history of suicides in over a decade, if I recall correctly. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00: | <p><em>00:52:36</em><br>In any of these branches of the decision tree, something is at play and something is at work, unless you believe that somehow I have it wrong, and that people who knew Jeffrey Epstein would support the idea that he would take his own life out of fear or shame-which I find essentially impossible, given the character that he chose to project, or that the actor playing the financier and wiz kid Jeffrey Epstein chose to project to me. Iāve checked this with several people, and in general everyone had the same impression that he was completely contemptuous of normal human beings with their petty moralities. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00: | <p><em>00:53:16</em><br>It is by the ability to work over all branches of the decision tree that Iāve gained confidence-first, that I started talking about this ages ago, and anybody [with whom] Iāve discussed Jeffrey Epstein will remember me using the word "construct" even before he was arrested and jailed for solicitation/prostitution of minors. So Iāve been at this for 15 years, not knowing it was going to end like this. I think many of us have tweeted out that if he was, in fact, attached to the intelligence community, he was going to have to die, because otherwise these secrets would get out. And, am I scared that Iām thinking about releasing this to the general public? Yes, but Iām also scared about <em>not</em> releasing this to the general public. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00: | <p><em>00:54:02</em><br>My belief is that this was a poorly constructed operation, and that when it comes to light which intelligence community it was, we are in danger of countries that I care a great deal about being thought to have constructed a pedophilic honeytrap, using ākompromatā, to use the Russian word, for that which would be used to control people in order to gain some sort of a geopolitical strategic advantage. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:54: | <p><em>00:54:28</em><br>Now, I am not of the opinion that Jeffrey Epstein was a savory character, and Iām not saying that he didnāt hire prostitutes, or coerce women into orgies, or what have you. But my guess is that at the moment, he was not using that particular kink of his four children in order to enmesh scientists or other politicians, as the news media sometimes hints, when it is not suggesting that heās simply dead by his own hand. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00: | <p><em>00:55:05</em><br>In fact, I think itās extremely dangerous to think about this as being the decision of a country. Now, Iām not going to lie, Iāve thought that the country might be Israel, and as an American Jew whoās lived in Israel, I donāt think Israel came to this decision, if in fact he is a product of the Israeli intelligence network. In fact, this would be something that would be top secret. It would have been decided by a tiny number of individuals, and it is not right to take down a nation based upon the idea that you canāt even do intelligence work because you contrived such a ridiculous idea as Jeffrey Epstein in order to gain ākompromat,ā and therefore control, over influential people inside of another country. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:55: | <p><em>00:55:52</em><br>What I would believe, instead, is that this is a tiny program, and that these people should come forward-or that we should find them by reinitiating the Church and Pike Commissions. There is now so much bizarre stuff of this kind that it is time to revisit the Church and Pike Commissions of the mid-1970s to find out what our intelligence and other intelligence agencies may have been up to. We need something to restore our confidence, and when and if we find out that a foreign power has been operating in the US, perhaps with our consent or perhaps we are in fact gaining some benefit from an operation that we could not ourselves do post Church and Pike, I think what we would do well to realize is that this situation is not the responsibility of any country, but the responsibility of people in the intelligence community who would have gone out of control. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:56:51</em><br>Now, do I know this to be true? Absolutely not. Am I infallible? Far from it. I wouldnāt have shared with you that I was wrong about Bernie Madoff, in fact, if all of these conspiracy theories turned out to be exactly true. Some of them still remain to be proven. But what Iāve tried to do is to talk to you about the idea that I donāt think the story is being fully explored. Iām extremely dismayed that over a very brief period of time, we went from suggesting that Jeffrey Epstein was allegedly dead by his own hand, to believing the medical examinerās report as if this was conclusive. In fact, the charge that he mightāve been murdered, with an understanding of the powers that be [which] controlled the correctional facility in which he was housed, <em>includes</em> the charge that the medical examinerās report would likely have been doctored. Thatās not an additional charge; you wouldnāt murder somebody if the report would conclusively show murder, unless you actually knew that you had enough control over the system to control it all. Furthermore, there has to be a facility that keeps local law enforcement, local medical officers, from stumbling over something of high value. You couldnāt responsibly run the intelligence community, which has to be able to carry out covert operations-operations that are disturbing, operations that are effective-without constantly fearing that low-level law enforcement and low-level medical examiners could blow the whole thing sky high. </p> | |||
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<p><em>00:56:51</em><br>Now, do I know this to be true? Absolutely not. Am I infallible? Far from it. I wouldnāt have shared with you that I was wrong about Bernie Madoff, in fact, if all of these conspiracy theories turned out to be exactly true. Some of them still remain to be proven. But what Iāve tried to do is | |||
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<p><em>00:58:51</em><br>It is time to return to investigative journalism we can trust. It is time to return to committees of the House and Senate that have the power to investigate these things | <p><em>00:58:51</em><br>It is time to return to investigative journalism we can trust. It is time to return to committees of the House and Senate that have the power to investigate these things; and it is long past due that the intelligence services be revisited. If they, in fact, have very little to hide, then this shouldnāt really be a big problem. But at the moment, the American people have lost full confidence in our ability to get to the bottom of truths: as to whether foreign countries are meddling in our national elections; as to whether foreign countries are using their ability to send graduate students into the STEM pipeline to spy on us; as to whether foreign countries are using our tech platforms in order to help them with their military advantage over the United States. </p> | ||
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<p><em>00:59:36</em><br>Now, I really donāt want to come back to the Jeffrey Epstein story, so what Iām saying to you is | <p><em>00:59:36</em><br>Now, I really donāt want to come back to the Jeffrey Epstein story, so what Iām saying to you is: āItās quite possible that Jeffrey Epstein is simply dead by his own hand, that he was a pervy billionaire or near-billionaire who had an interest in science, and also an interest in young women that ranged from [the age] of perhaps 23 down either to 18, 15, 12, what have you-maybe the official story is true.ā </p> | ||
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<p><em>01:00:08</em><br>All Iām trying to suggest is that for some reason, I picked this one person to tell a 15-year story about that I believed he was an intelligence construct of probably another country operating in the center of the United States elite, and I believe | <p><em>01:00:08</em><br>All Iām trying to suggest is that for some reason, I picked this one person to tell a 15-year story about: that I believed he was an intelligence construct of probably another country operating in the center of the United States elite, and [that] I believe [this to be] an additional piece of information, because thereās no one else that Iāve been telling the story about. Iāve never met another person like this;Ā this is a completely <em>suis generis</em> exception to my general understanding of the world; and I think if I am correct that there was something very much amiss, that it was obviously amiss-obvious to anybody who wished to see it-just as the world clearly closed their eyes to Jeffrey Epsteinās problems when it was found that he was asking for massages from underage girls in Florida. Somebody was turning a blind eye towards the story almost certainly, because it was too salacious not to be interesting. Itās the kind of a story that would move newspapers, it would sell advertising spots; itās far too juicy for people to take this little of an interest in. </p> | ||
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<p><em>01:01:16</em><br>And I want to say one last thing about this. Jeffrey Epstein was enmeshed with a guy named John Brockman, who was a guy who in some sense gave me my first break on a larger stage. It is commonly believed at the moment by certain members of the media that John Brockman was complicit in the underage behavior, underage interest that Jeff Epstein showed in young girls. The one thing I can add is, | <p><em>01:01:16</em><br>And I want to say one last thing about this. Jeffrey Epstein was enmeshed with a guy named John Brockman, who was a guy who in some sense gave me my first break on a larger stage. It is commonly believed at the moment by certain members of the media that John Brockman was complicit in the underage behavior, underage interest, that Jeff Epstein showed in young girls. The one thing I can add is, that I met John Brockman and his wife, Katinka Mattson, at Stuart Brandās Interval Bar sometime in the last-I donāt know, one-to-three years. And when John and I sat down, I can tell you with certainty that John warned me that heād had an interaction with Jeffrey that he had found very disturbing, and that John had been forced to walk out of his house, realizing that Jeffrey Epstein had had a problem. And John has not come forward, and I donāt know that thereās anybody else in a position to tell this story, but I can say with some certainty that John was not happy about this, and that if John was, in fact, tolerant of a Hugh Hefner style person, the person I met had no reason to say this to me, [and] was certainly not okay with Jeffrey Epstein-was in fact warning me away from him-and I had no interest in seeing Jeffrey at that point. </p> | ||
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<p><em>01:02:44</em><br>So, I do wish to say that I think that the conspiracy theorizing that Iām seeing is of a lower quality and a lower level. Of course | <p><em>01:02:44</em><br>So, I do wish to say that I think that the conspiracy theorizing that Iām seeing is of a lower quality and a lower level. Of course, I could find out that the entire Edge network is somehow at risk and implicated, but I can say as somebody on the very peripheryāI wrote no books for John, I didnāt go to the billionairesā dinners, I never went to this island, I never flew on the plane; I met him once, and I had a phone call with him afterwards. I can tell you that I donāt personally believe that John Brockman was caught up in this at the level that is now being alleged by certain members of the press, who I think are perhaps not as [being as] responsible as they might be. </p> | ||
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<p><em>01:03:27</em><br>Anyway, thatās more or less what I have to say on the subject, and with this, I intend | <p><em>01:03:27</em><br>Anyway, thatās more or less what I have to say on the subject, and with this, I intend, to the extent possible, exit the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy business. </p> | ||
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