Government University Industry Research Round Table (GUIRR)
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Recommendation to @DARPA_news: request all internal docs written by @NSF economist Myles Boylan. Some are undated with no attribution.
2018[edit]
I don’t mind @Noahpinion making this wrong argument as a neo-liberal political activist. Just not as an economist, an expert, or an academician.
Because he‘s certainly aware that this hasn’t been a free lunch. It’s designed as cryptic wealth transfer:
Skilled immigration is basically a free lunch for America. A native-born kid costs lots of $$ to educate. All those public school dollars, all that college tuition!
Whereas a 22-year-old skilled immigrant basically appears out of nowhere, fully educated and ready to work!
As an economist, expert, or academician, I would be obliged to read and heed the empirical research on the topic! http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=23550
You are actually playing stupid? That’s mind blowing. You should be well aware that the NAS who you cited is the CENTER of the market manipulation. That is, you are citing the bad actor as impartial judge! Who do you think is behind the collusion Noah??
It’s NAS. Read my paper.
The National Academy of Sciences report draws on the research of academic economists, and they made sure to get a wide variety of economists to contribute (including George Borjas!).
There is no vast conspiracy at work here. Just evidence.
Woah. Am I supposed to be afraid of the @theNASciences?? And social scientists? I quake in my boots.
Sit down my son. The NAS has invited me on at least four occasions to explain this ‘conspiracy’ to them. They have thanked me for it, paid my expenses, & never challenged it.
Pops, no one is buying it. The NAS isn't a conspiracy. Skilled immigration isn't a plot. The research is real. Smoke a J and chill out.
No one is buying? Other than the NAS itself who bought it when they invited me and gave me a standing Ovation. Then invited me to their COSEPUP committee and reacted in horror. Then invited me back to address their GUIRR committee. Etc...
So the NAS bought it. But do keep going.
Here's a paper by Peri, Shih, and Sparber, finding that skilled immigrants raise wages for the native-born: http://giovanniperi.ucdavis.edu/uploads/5/6/8/2/56826033/stem-workers.pdf
Are they conspirators too? ARE THEY ALL IN ON IT, ERIC??
Not following you into another meaningless briar patch. You can contend with my paper. I’ll wait.
Fortunately, research shows that skilled immigration boosts the wages of skilled and unskilled native-born workers alike.
National Academy of Sciences report --> http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=23550
Therefore it is not a cryptic wealth transfer, but a policy for broad-based prosperity!
And @Noahpinion cites the National Academy of Sciences, which, as home of the Government-University-Industry-Reaearch-Roundtable (GUIRR), is named as the epicenter of the cabal to lower the wages of American Scientists using visas.
All detailed here: https://www.ineteconomics.org/research/research-papers/how-and-why-government-universities-and-industry-create-domestic-labor-shortages-of-scientists-and-high-tech-workers
Let's not degenerate into wackaloon conspiracy theories, Eric. The NAS report cited a wide array of academic economists who study immigration (including George Borjas!).
Wackaloon?? Ha. You’re devotion to authority is adorable.
But, don’t make me laugh. I’ll stand alone. Go get your army of economists ready to take apart my historical paper. I’ll wait....as I’ve been waiting for about 20 years.
I have my disagreements with Noah Smith but this stuff from EW just seems bizarrely conspiratorial tbh
2020[edit]
So I agree that this 2020 podcast is saying this is appalling. But this is almost 40Yrs after this problem became visible and these voices were NOWHERE to be heard! When we said this in 1987 or 1992 we were vilified. So yes, this is better than most. But that bar is too damn low.
And lastly, I have been in multiple conversations where professors of economics and/or finance have *literally* laughed in my face explaining how great our system is for them at the expense of younger students using exactly these concepts like barriers to entry: The joke is real.
H1-b visas come out of a secret 1986 economics study by the Policy, Reaearch & Analysis division of @NSF through the GUIRR division of @theNASciences in a scheme to tamper with the wage mechanism so that scientists would slave for a market in which they wouldn’t participate. 🙏
-Eric Weinstein, PhD (Math)
2021[edit]
EVERY single top research university in the US in EVERY STEM field is used by CCP.
I don’t understand the shock. The Erich Bloch & Peter House at @NSF via the GUIRR coordinated the giving away of our US STEM advantage just to save US employers $ in 1986:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-funded-scientists-compromised-china
This was written more than 20 years ago. It has sat on the NBER server for 20 years. No one reports the story.
https://users.nber.org/~sewp/references/archive/weinsteinhowandwhygovernment.pdf
There is no press. No outcry. There is just a freakish silence that has been unbroken for almost 40 years. We gave it all away to the CCP.
Don’t blame China. The US STEM leadership conspired against our own people just to save a few bucks. Of course PRC used our idiotic leadership against us.
No one will talk about this paper. Try it! No one challenges it yet no one reports the claims made within it? Still amazed.
35 years after @nsf “Policy Research and Analysis” conspired w/ NAS Government University Research Roundtable to sell out STEM-America.
I’ve been on this over 30 years. Is it finally happening? I doubt it.
Why? B/C it’s the *entire* STEM labor system.
https://www.newsweek.com/over-500-us-scientists-under-investigation-being-compromised-china-1586074
And here is a prediction. After we gut all of our advanced math and science, we are going to have a huge employer sponsored push to flood STEM markets with workers from abroad who were not subjected to “Diversity and Inclusion(tm)” re-education. Genius.
2022[edit]
The @nsf conspired AGAiNST the scientists. With whom? The National Academy of Science through the Government University Industry Research Round Table (@GUIRR). I have been invited four times to the NAS to present this. It is an out and out conspiracy.
Debunk this claim @snopes.
This account has > 1/2M followers & is spreading a wild conspiracy story that the US science establishment destroyed US STEM careers through market tampering. It’s housed at @nberpubs & @INETeconomics. It sews distrust in science & government. Debunk me @APFactCheck, @PolitiFact.
In the meantime, younger STEM PhDs, please don’t be angry or disappointed. Why not take the long years of cutting edge training at tax payer expense & visit @PandaExpress, where fast food can put you on the fast track to success & financial freedom! 🙏
So nuts. #followthesilence
As you know: no one will report but no one will debunk either. Welcome to the Boomer/Silent Generation distopia.
I still can’t get over that we don’t have a functioning free press. Thanks.
*dystopia
Also, feel free not to give a shit as we mask up injecting ourselves and our families against a virus that likely comes from the same exact people with almost no independent secure PhDs to stand up to the gerontocracy at @NIH, NIAID. That’s the cost of cheap science.
For the nth time:
The US Scientific Labor Market has been totally & deliberately rigged from 1986 on. As in completely ‘fixed’.
For whom? Employers/PRC/Boomers.
By whom? @theNASciences, GUIRR, AAU and @nsf.
Against whom: Scientists. Science. The US.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/us/ucla-adjunct-professor-salary.html
What will happen next? You’ll read this story. You’ll scratch your head “Needs PhD for 0 compensation??”
Then a few days later you will read another story about how the US is falling behind in STEM and the workplace of tomorrow needs H-1B visas & technical skills.
In a picture:
2024[edit]
I highly recommend learning about the history of where H-1B came from before getting emotionally invested in it.
It was born as a labor tampering conspiracy against American scientists headquartered at the @theNASEM (GUIRR) & @nsf (PRA) under Erich Bloch.
Posted this later, as an example:
"A growing influx of foreign PhD's into U.S. labor markets will hold down the level of PhD salaries to the extent that foreign students are attracted to U.S. doctoral programs as a way of immigrating to the U.S."
-Photograph from the secret @NSF study that led to the H-1B.
2025[edit]
Is this what you mean by “America First”? Ha ha.
A Patriot would kill this evil program, assess the transfer of wealth over 35 years and pay reparations to America’s brilliant scientists & engineers who we systematically lured, misled, discarded and economically raped.
Pussies.
🚨BREAKING: President Trump for ANOTHER WIN. The haters are FURIOUS!
Labor Secretary CONFIRMS that the administration is going FULL FORCE to SHUTDOWN all H-1B visa fraud and put American’s FIRST!
Everyone who says “America needs the best and the brightest!” needs to close their mouth and open their wallets, minds and hearts in that order.
We are a market economy. We have a wage mechanism. On your next flight from Van Nuys to Teterboro: use it. Stop looking abroad.
Americans Scientists and Engineers are pains in the ass if you are looking for employees. We aren’t really employee of the month types. Duh.
We are in a totally different idiom. We are badly behaved, maverick, cowboy science types. You aren’t serious about the best brightest scientists and engineers if you are in the bargain aisle looking for lapdogs, yes-men, employees and indoor cats.
End the war to capture the value created by scientists and STEM workers. Let them capture their own immense value again.
They made you rich. They made you secure. Time to return the favor.
Return the Borjas Rectangle stolen by @theNASciences, GUIRR and @NSF.
The intellectual godfather of H-1B is @myles_boylan. None of you even seem to know this.
Myles, let’s continue the conversation. In public. You started this. Let’s end it.
Related Pages[edit]
- Bayh-Dole Act (1980)
- Erich Bloch
- The Evolution of U.S. Science and Defense Research Policies
- H-1B Visa
- IMMACT90
- Immigration
- Mansfield Amendment (1969)
- Myles Boylan
- Peter House
- National Academy of Sciences (NAS)
- National Science Foundation (NSF)
- NSF Policy Research and Analysis Division (PRA)
- Science, The Endless Frontier (1945)
- Science Since Babylon