Theory of Geometric Unity
The Theory of Geometric Unity is an attempt by Eric Weinstein to produce a unified field theory by recovering the different, seemingly incompatible geometries of fundamental physics from a general structure with minimal assumptions. For the latest updates on the theory, visit https://geometricunity.org/.
- A first video presentation of the theory is available on Youtube
- A transcript of the talk is available here.
- Discussion on the Joe Rogan show
- PBS SpaceTime
- Geometric Unity Predictions
- You Know Youâre in GU When
The source code of the universe is overwhelmingly likely to determine a purely geometric operating system written in a uniform programming language.
- Eric Weinstein
Some Key Ideas
Starting point: three observations by Edward Witten
| 1. The Arena ([math]\displaystyle{ X, g_{\mu\nu} }[/math]) | [math]\displaystyle{ R_{\mu\nu} - \frac{1}{2} Rg_{\mu\nu} + \Lambda g_{\mu\nu} = \left( \dfrac{8 \pi G}{c^4} T_{\mu\nu}\right) }[/math] | the Einstein field equations, which describe gravity in the theory of general relativity |
| 2. [math]\displaystyle{ G }[/math] (non abelian)
[math]\displaystyle{ SU(3) \times SU(2) \times U(1) }[/math] |
[math]\displaystyle{ d_A^*F_A=J(\psi) }[/math] | the Yang-Mills equation, which governs all other force fields in Yang-Mill-Maxwell theory |
| 3. Matter
Antisymmetric, therefore light |
[math]\displaystyle{ (i \hbar \gamma^\mu \partial_\mu - m) \psi = 0 }[/math] | the Dirac equation, the equation of motion describing matter particles, or fermions |
Key guiding question: what are the compatibilities and incompatibilities between these puzzle pieces on the geometric level before the theory is created quantum mechanical.
Problem Nr. 1: Einstein's Theory of General Relativity is not a proper Gauge Theory
- From Einstein's general relativity, we take the Einstein projection of the curvature tensor of the Levi-Civita connection [math]\displaystyle{ \nabla }[/math] of the metric [math]\displaystyle{ P_E(F_{\nabla}) }[/math]
- From Yang-Mills-Maxwell-Anderson-Higgs theory of gauge fields, we take the adjoint exterior derivative coupled to a connection [math]\displaystyle{ d^\star_A F_A }[/math]
Idea: What if the [math]\displaystyle{ F }[/math]'s are the same in both contexts?
Further, supposing these [math]\displaystyle{ F }[/math]'s are the same, then why apply two different operators?
Thus the question becomes: Is there any opportunity to combine these two operators?
A problem is that the hallmark of the Yang-Mills theory is the freedom to choose the data, the internal quantum numbers that give all the particles their personalities beyond the mass and the spin. We can allow the gauge group of symmetries to act on both sides of the equation, but the key problem is that: [math]\displaystyle{ P_E(F_{\nabla h}) \neq h^{-1} P_E(F_{\nabla}) h }[/math]. If we act on connections on the right and then take the Einstein projection, this is not equal to first taking the projection and then conjugating with the gauge action. The gauge rotation is only acting on one of the two factors. Yet the projection is making use of both of them. So there is a fundamental incompatibility in the claim that Einstein's theory is a gauge theory relies more on analogy than an exact mapping between the two theories.
Problem Nr. 2: Spinors are sensitive to the metric
Observation: Gauge fields do not depend on the existence of a metric. One-forms are defined whether or not a metric is present. But for spinors (fermion fields) this is not the case.
"So if we're going to take the spin-2 [math]\displaystyle{ G_{\mu\nu} }[/math] field to be quantum mechanical, if it blinks out and does whatever the quantum does between observations. In the case of the photon, it is saying that the waves may blink out, but the ocean need not blink out. In the case of the Dirac theory, it is the ocean, the medium, in which the waves live that becomes uncertain itself. So even if you're comfortable with the quantum, to me, this becomes a bridge too far. So the question is: "How do we liberate the definition?" How do we get the metric out from its responsibilities? It's been assigned far too many responsibilities. It is responsible for a volume form; for differential operators; it's responsible for measurement; it's responsible for being a dynamical field, part of the field content of the system."
Problem Nr. 3: The Higgs field introduces a lot of arbitrariness
"The Dirac field, Einstein's field, and the connection fields are all geometrically well-motivated but we push a lot of the artificiality that we do not understand into the potential for the scalar field that gives everything its mass. We tend to treat it as something of a mysterious fudge factor. So the question is, if we have a Higgs field: "why is it here and why is it geometric?""
Proposed Solution
We may have to generalize all three vertices before we can make progress. That's daunting because in each case, it would appear that we can make an argument that the three vertices are already the simplest possible theories that could live at these vertices.
- We know, for example, the Dirac operator is the most fundamental of all the elliptic operators and Euclidean signature generating all of the Atiyah-Singer theory.
- We know that Einstein's theory describes, in some sense, a unique spin two massless field capable of communicating gravity, which can be arrived at from field-theoretic rather than geometric consideration.
- In the Yang-Mills case, it can also be argued that the Yang-Mills theory is the simplest theory that we can write down. In the Yang-Mills case, we have no substructure, and so we're doing the most simple-minded thing we can do by taking the norm-squared of the curvature and saying whatever the field strength is, let's measure that size.
So if each one of these is simplest possible, doesn't Occamâs razor tell us that if we wish to remain in geometric field theory, that we've already reached bottom?
I would say that there are other possibilities that while each of these may be simplest in its category, they are not simplest in their interaction.
For example, we know that Dirac famously took the square root of the Klein-Gordon equation to achieve the Dirac equation. He actually took two square roots, one of the differential operator, and another of the algebra on which it acts. But could we not do the same thing by re-interpreting what we saw in Donaldson theory and Chern-Simons theory and finding that there are first-order equations that imply second-order equations that are nonlinear in the curvature?
So, let's imagine the following: we replaced the standard model with a true second-order theory. We imagine the general relativity is replaced by a true first-order theory. And then we find that the true second-order theory admits of a square root and can be linked with the true first order theory.
This would be a program for some kind of unification of Dirac's type, but in the force sector. The question is, "does this really make any sense? Are there any possibilities to do any such thing?"
Let's talk about what the Geometric Unity (GU) proposal is. First of all, we observe that we have a division into intrinsic theories and auxiliary theory and between physics and mathematics. An intrinsic physical theory would be general relativity. An auxiliary physical theory would be the Yang-Mills theory, with the freedom to choose internal quantum numbers.
At the mathematical level, an intrinsic theory would be, the older semi-Riemannian geometry. The study of manifolds with length and angle. Auxiliary geometry is what we're going to call fiber bundle theory or modern gauge theory.
Geometric Unity is the search for some way to break down the walls between these four boxes.
What we'd like to come up with is some theory that is intrinsic, but allows us to play some of the games that exist in other boxes. How can we fit? How can we try to have our cake and eat it too? And use all the full suite of techniques that are available to us?
Our perspective is that the quantum that may be the comparatively easy part and that the unification of the geometry, which has not occurred, may be what we're being asked to do.
On YouTube
On X
2009
New Topic:"A well meaning amateur predicts LHC Era Physics from Hedge Fund-Land." or "Why don't our pros have more interesting guesses?" #GU
GU: Two theories will gain explaining the 3 families. The one I like less will involve triality and large exceptional groups (a la Lisi).
GU: This triality family theory will be based on reps. of dim. 3*8*(2^i) for i =0,1,2,3 for F4,E6,E7,E8, ..... which don't fully exist yet.
GU: We will solve this by refining our notion of a "defining representation" to include 'projective' reps. that *cannot* be deprojectivized.
GU: I predict that it isn't *yet* game over for family triality but @garrettlisi must abandon the 26,27,78,248 'defining reps' of F4,E6-E8.
GU: This is an undervalued program to answer the generalized "Who ordered that" question of I. Rabi. ... but one still unlikely to work.
GU: Pause.
[Next: A more hopeful guess for explaining the family structure and what is next in fermion land.]
GU: [Resume.] While family triality is intriguing, I posit there is a more likely geometric basis for the 3 family structure. Here goes....
GU: I posit LHC-Era physics will come to be dominated by an N*(3+1) family structure model where the 4th family are 'black sheep' fermions.
GU: Were my model valid, 3*N would be the natural number of broken families of *spinorial* matter with N=1 the most natural value.
GU: But for every 3 spinorial families of 16 particles each, there should be a black sheep family of particles which transform differently.
GU: These black sheep particles would instead transform in the so-called Cartan product of the vector and spinorial represenations.
GU: But these particles wouldn't carry internal quantum numbers of Bosonic type. Instead, they would carry the familiar 16D rep of Spin(10).
GU: I'm looking for 144_Spin(10) new Spin 1/2 and 16_Spin(10) new Spin 3/2 fundamental fermions. The 16 wouldn't be dark. The 144 could be.
2010
GU: It is worth predicting now that a different spin 0 fundamental field will indeed show up, only to be mis-welcomed...as a "Trojan Higgs."
GU: Don't conflate Spin 0 fields valued in the adjoint bundle / non-linear sigma models w/ higgs at LHC. Nature uses Spin 0 alternatively.
2021
In strong GU:
SU(3) x SU(2) x U(1) (Standard Model)
Is contained in U(3)xU(2) inside
Spin(6)xSpin(4) =SU(4)xSU(2)xSU(2)
(Before the more difficult non compact Spin(6,4).)
Iâd look first to the extra 1D reductive U(1) if the experiments hold up. Then to Spin(6) x Spin(4):
@EricRWeinstein What are your thoughts on this and how does it fit with Geometric Unity? https://www.bbc.com/news/56643677
As far as Fermion quantum number predictions that could open up new channels, Strong GU makes clear predictions. Explicitly, here would be the next Spin-1/2 particles internal symmetries we should find:
Additionally, Strong GU predicts that there will be 16 Spin-3/2 particles with Standard model symmetries conjugate to the Spin-1/2 generations and gives their âinternalâ quantum numbers as:
Now, why if GU makes predictions do I appear to some to shy away from them?
A: I donât.
But string theorists hide the fact that they disconnected themselves from normal science by trying to force everyone else *except* String Theorists into answering hyperspecific challenges.
Thus while I can tell you what GU predicts is next, they push for a QFT calculation of energy scale to make others sound vague.
So letâs talk vague: Look at the above containments and SM quantum numbers. Thatâs not vague. Now ask String Theorists the SAME question...and compare.
Lastly: I would caution about getting too far ahead of our experimentalist friends. Let them sort out their confidence and not push them to be too definite prematurely.
But my advice is to watch *relative* predictive responses of those w/ âBeyond the Standard Modelâ theories. đ
P.S. Happy to attempt to sharpen what GU can say. But not working on my own outside the community. If you want more precise predictions than I already have, Iâd need access to normal resources (e.g. constructive QFT colleagues). Working outside from home itâs probably impossible.
P.P.S. Remember that GU rejects three generations. In GU itâs 2 True generations plus 1 imposter. A priori, this could also be an effect of the imposter not being a true generation.
Again I would need QFT colleagues trying to help me see if that is a possible effect.
Letâs try this again. This has almost no engagement. Iâm not buying it Twitter.
We are on our way to having physics declared beyond the Standard Model with new matter/force needed. And, this is quite specific as to what Geometric Unity says comes next: https://geometricunity.org
In strong GU:
SU(3) x SU(2) x U(1) (Standard Model)
Is contained in U(3)xU(2) inside
Spin(6)xSpin(4) =SU(4)xSU(2)xSU(2)
(Before the more difficult non compact Spin(6,4).)
Iâd look first to the extra 1D reductive U(1) if the experiments hold up. Then to Spin(6) x Spin(4):
Please retweet the quote tweeted thread above to get sound the Twitter algos. đ
Unlike many theories, GU can already predict a lot about what comes next and even tells us that we have things wrong about particles we think we already know and understand: Why the Muon g-2 Results Are So Exciting!
Pentagon confirms leaked photos and video of UFOs are legitimate https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/16/pentagon-ufos-leaked-photos-uap
I do wish people would understand that GU is rather serious and what it is attempting to say with new particle predictions, geometric possibilities and additional *temporal* dimensions.
Even if you assume it is wrong, it is the only attempt of its kind of which I am aware.
2022
2023
I want to use the argument made to make a point. âLight yearsâ is a mathematical concept. Newtonian gravitation & Einsteinâs general relativity are our past & current mathematical maps of the physical âterritoryâ.
The Map â The Territory.
Iâm focused on post-Einsteinian maps.
You know the laws of physics, you understand probability, you understand how many stars are within a 100 light years of Earth. ... So let us stop pretending there is any possibility that this is nothing more than a con.
I am worried that should any entity get a Post Einsteinian map, those with only GR will be âownedâ by those with the advantage. Think neutrons.
GU is by its nature, a post Einsteinian theory. It recovers spacetime from a more general structure.
The irremovable singularities of GR indicate that Einstein is an intermediate theory. Itâs NOT final. And I wouldnât want to face an adversary that knew the ultimate theory while I was still back in spacetime thinking.
Spacetime may not be hackable, but itâs successors may be.đ
I donât know how to answer. I believe that the world beyond Einstein does not have a 1,3 metric where that 1 means a single future.
If Iâm correct, the world is 7,7 or 5,9 pulled back to 1,3. So I decline to answer: I donât know how to think about my own modelâs pasts/futures. https://x.com/cdse2403/status/1638538814086889472
As I have said in public, I find it EXTREMELY difficult to conceptualize multiple temporal dimensions. Just because I can see that they are there in my model, does not mean I am smart enough to understand their consequences. Sorry to disappoint. Try Itzhak Bars at USC?
Be well.
Perhaps one simple thing I might add is that only with one temporal dimension do boundary conditions become initial conditions. Boundary conditions are more general and Ultra Hyperbolic equations can be defined so that Hyperbolic relativistic equations are a quirky special case.
I donât know how to answer. I believe that the world beyond Einstein does not have a 1,3 metric where that 1 means a single future.
If Iâm correct, the world is 7,7 or 5,9 pulled back to 1,3. So I decline to answer: I donât know how to think about my own modelâs pasts/futures. https://x.com/cdse2403/status/1638538814086889472
If gimel is native to X, then what is the pullback of gimel? Or is gimel native to Y?
Gimel pulls back field content native to Y back to X. Gimel^{1,3} does the pulling back of the data (sections over Y). It is the stylus that samples the record Y^{7,7} (or Y^{5,9} in the second GU variant that is physical) and plays it back. In GU, spacetime is just the Victrola.
Now I feel completely alone.
I want our wanting out of this story. I have a huge dog in this fight. I spend every day fighting my own human desire for GU to be proven correct.
I believe this is how String Theorists stopped being scientists.
I just want our data & the physics.
If biological aliens were here from others star systems in crafts that defy the current physics of the standard model and, more importantly, general relativity, I would be one of the few people who would have a guess on day one as to how they must have gotten here. Itâs tempting.
I donât think biological interstellar alien visitors using GR and the SM make much sense. So I try to have a war *inside* my own mind as to what is true. I have a genuine âNeed to Knowâ as to whether this is BS NatSec space opera disinformation theater. Because to me, it is data.
What just happened isnât data. Itâs that a sober individual just pushed one of the many longstanding highly conserved NHI narratives collected from *many* diverse sober NatSec informants over the sworn testimony line. And it gets a LOT crazier from here. But itâs not science yet.
As Iâve been saying, there is so much deliberate NatSec BS out here that our own scientists are being propagandized. Weâre drilling holes in our own scientistsâ lifeboat. Last time we saw this it was virologists/immunologists/epidemiologists being gaslit. Now itâs physicists.
Let me be very careful in what I am about to say. We have at least the appearance and optics of scientific self-sabotage. And wanting things to be true is how science dies.
I fight like hell to promote my theory. But Iâd sign on to another to know the truth if I was wrong.
We may be looking at the birth of a new UFO religion. Or a moment of contact. Or a long running Disinformation campaign. Etc.
To go beyond GR, letâs be scientists & get NatSec out of our data first. Where is our data pruned of space opera disinformation and cultic religiosity?
What I want to know:
Why was the Mansfield Amendment passed?
Why did NSF fake a labor shortage in our MARKET economy destroying American STEM labor markets?
What stopped the Golden Age Of General Relativity?
Why was the SSC really cancelled?
StringTheory & STAGNATION: WTF?
What the hell was the 1957 Behnson funded UNC Chapel Hill conference actually about?
Why are we not stopping to QUESTION quantum gravity after 70 years of public *FAILURE* inspired by Babson-Behnson patronage of RIAS, the Institute of Field Physics and the precursor to Lockheed?
This is the 50th year of stagnation in the Standard Model Lagrangian. It is AS IF we are deliberately trying to forget how to do actual physics. Everyone who has succeeded in Particle Theory in standard terms is now over 70. This is insane. In 25 years there will be no one left.
Why are we not admitting that quantum gravity is killing physics and is the public respectable face of 1950s anti-gravity mania that lives on to murder all new theories in their cradle?
Quantum Gravity is fake and works to stop actual physics.
There. I said it. Now letâs talk.
If you want to know whether there are biological interstellar visitors here observing us, the short answer is âAlmost *certainly* not if they are using our current stagnant non-progressing theories of physics.â
Letâs finally get serious about this whacky subject? Thanks. đ
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