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|content=Note Added: many readers are making wild inferences about me talking about  flying fakes. I was very clear that this was about apparent crafts on the ground and in Hangars in Nevada, Ohio & elsewhere.
Wild or bad inference patterns will get you blocked. I don’t have time. Thx.
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|content=One of the questions about UFOs that needs to be asked, and that I don’t hear much about, is: [[UAP=SAP|“Has the US government built fake UFOs?”]]
UFO people are so focused on whether there are real UFOs that they don’t push hard enough on this question.
Allow me to share a thought or two.
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|content=When I first realized I was totally wrong about [[UAP|UFO/UAP]], I was shocked by how many folks have very similar stories about recovered crashes of very similar advanced vehicles.
It was mind blowing in 2 ways.
A) We have real crashed vehicles.
And/Or
B) We built fake alien vehicles.
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|content=At this point I’m reasonably sure there are things that look like cool alien vehicle in some hangers. But I also grew up near Hollywood and remember super cool looking fake space cars visible off the Hollywood freeway.
So: does anyone have stories of building fake UFOs for USG?
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|content=As you likely guessed, all the photos in this thread are fake military equipment. The airbase is totally fake. The dummy tanks are often inflated on the battlefield. The fake tank pieces are bolted on to real cars.
Q: Did we build fake [[UAP|UFOs]] in places like Wright-Patterson AFB?
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|content=After studying this issue for 2yrs, I’m pretty convinced that there ARE wild looking vehicles in secret high security locations. But I also find NO SIGN OF OUR TOP PHYSICISTS. That is a huge red flag. If you had fake UFOs, you would have a puzzle for physics: What is the science?
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|content=A true recovered interstellar craft would be like LHC or LIGO data: potential scientific data for physics beyond the [[Standard Model]] and [[General Relativity]].
But if the crafts are fake, you would be crazy to let the A-team physicists near them. It would blow up in your face.
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|content=So my ignorant question is this: are there stories of building fake UFOs for sites in Nevada? Ohio? Are there fake retrieval teams? To what extent does faking military equipment spill into faking a UFOgasm for decades?
Because there are too many very similar craft stories.
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|content=So, at this point, the stories of craft kept at secret locations is most likely to be true in my opinion.  But it is also true that all the top physics talent that was working only semi-covertly on suspicious gravity projects left by the early 1970s. So any craft may be faked.
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|content=Either way, it’s a big deal. Everything changed in the early 70s. It’s impossible to say how much. The moment the Mansfield amendment came in, physics began to stagnate. And [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] destroyed our culture of science. We don’t even whisper about its “Anti-Gravity” origin.
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|content=So to sum up: there do *appear* to be craft. But advanced armies all build dummy weapons.
Q1: Do we have any Fakes?</br>
Q2: Do we have only Fakes?</br>
Q3: Why do we talk almost  *exclusively* about Technology and not new Post-[[General Relativity|GR]]/[[Standard Model|SM]] science if there are *any* real interstellar craft?
🙏
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== On YouTube ==
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Revision as of 17:15, 4 November 2025

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The UAP = USAP hypothesis is a framework introduced by Eric Weinstein that interprets a significant portion of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) reports as manifestations or consequences of Unacknowledged Special Access Programs (USAPs) within the United States government. It posits that many seemingly anomalous aerial sightings are either misidentified classified aerospace technologies or deliberate counterintelligence and deception operations associated with highly compartmentalized defense initiatives.

This concept is associated with terms such as "Cobalt" and "Baby" Blue-on-Blue, which describe the internal dynamics and fratricide-like conflicts that can occur when ordinary citizens and personnel without appropriate clearances unintentionally encounter or interfere with covert government operations.

Terminology

  • UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena): A term used by the U.S. Department of Defense and intelligence agencies to describe aerial objects or occurrences that do not conform to known technological signatures or natural explanations.
  • SAP (Special Access Program): A category of classified program that imposes extra security protocols on access and dissemination beyond regular classification.
  • USAP (Unacknowledged Special Access Program): A subset of SAPs whose existence is not acknowledged publicly or even within broader classified systems. Access is restricted to a small set of individuals with explicit authorization.
  • Baby-on-Cobalt Blue-on-Blue: Refers to incidents where civilians, researchers, government or military personnel without clearance (e.g., military pilots, intelligence officers), journalists, or private actors lacking institutional affiliation or access to classified channels inadvertently encounter a USAP and are subsequently discredited or attacked reputationally. "Blue-on-blue" is derived from military terminology for fratricide or friendly fire.

Hypothesis Overview

The UAP = USAP hypothesis holds that:

  1. Many UAP sightings are misinterpreted USAP activity, including advanced aerospace systems, novel propulsion platforms, and sensor technologies operating under deep secrecy.
  1. UAP narratives serve strategic purposes; government agencies may allow or encourage public confusion about UAPs as a form of maskirovka—military deception designed to mislead adversaries about actual capabilities.
  1. Historical precedent supports concealment. The hypothesis draws parallels with operations such as Operation Fortitude and Operation Bodyguard during World War II, where fake troop movements and misinformation were used to mask the true location of the D-Day invasion (Operation Overlord).
  1. Transparency may be counterproductive. Advocates argue that full transparency in national security contexts is not always desirable, likening the pursuit of unfiltered openness to a “mania” that can compromise sensitive defense operations.

Origin

The UAP = USAP hypothesis was first articulated publicly by Eric Weinstein during a live presentation at the JNS Salon titled Humanity Needs a Plan B for Survival, held in early 2025 and released on YouTube on 27 March 2025, [1] and has also been discussed indirectly on earlier occasions.[2]

At approximately 1 hr 6 min into the JNS Salon presentation, Weinstein introduced the equation:

"I have an equation called UAP = SAP, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena equals Special Access Programs."

This statement was delivered within a broader discussion on the challenges of evaluating conspiracy theories in a deeply classified national security environment. Weinstein drew analogies to World War II deception campaigns—specifically Operation Fortitude and Operation Bodyguard—as historical precedents for intentional government obfuscation. He further argued that governments often disguise real technological advances under misleading narratives, and that UAP phenomena may serve as convenient cover for highly classified aerospace activity.

Weinstein framed the equation as a conceptual tool for interpreting observed anomalies as potential artifacts of internal U.S. defense infrastructure, intelligence masking, or adversarial misdirection efforts. The talk also emphasized the institutional difficulty of achieving transparency due to the risks of exposing deeply compartmentalized programs to broader scrutiny.

The big problem with Conspiracy Theories, and why they have such a terrible name, is that people don't realize the princess cannot feel whether it's a pea, or a golf ball, or even a watermelon, if there's too many mattresses. So my point is that you have to learn when things don't make sense without immediately filling the hole. We don't really know—I can tell you with almost certainty that the US has had quiet and highly classified UFO programs. Nobody has any idea—that I know—whether they're actually UFOs or aliens anywhere near them. And so, in part, I have an equation called UAP=SAP, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena equals Special Access Programs. The US, when it chooses to do something cool, always does something fake. So Operation Overlord was the invasion of Normandy during World War II, but Operation Fortitude and Operation Bodyguard were the fake operations to disguise the Operation Overlord, so that nobody would understand what the troop buildup was about. So, in part, we don't know, for example, whether—let's just take the UFOs—whether there's any UFOs in this thing, and it's just a cover for super advanced aerospace, or to try to get the Chinese and the Russians to invest precious treasure in the wrong programs....

We have a problem that we're not being honest with people at a level that we can't afford. Governments can't afford to be honest. They. This idea of “transparency is everything, and sunlight is the best disinfectant”—anybody who knows medicine knows that Brucella is an infection that gets worse with sunlight. You can't just open everything up. The mania for transparency is a mania. The key point is we have to bring these down to appreciable levels. We need more honesty, if not total honesty. And I don't know what to do about all of the things that don't add up, because in late the late stages of the post-World War II era, many of the people in charge of these programs don't understand how they work.

- Eric Weinstein at the 2025 JNS Salon

On X

One of the questions about UFOs that needs to be asked, and that I don’t hear much about, is: “Has the US government built fake UFOs?”

UFO people are so focused on whether there are real UFOs that they don’t push hard enough on this question.

Allow me to share a thought or two.

ERW-X-post-1590739362454843396-FhNxBNvVUAMH8ns.jpg
4:13 PM · Nov 10, 2022

When I first realized I was totally wrong about UFO/UAP, I was shocked by how many folks have very similar stories about recovered crashes of very similar advanced vehicles.

It was mind blowing in 2 ways.

A) We have real crashed vehicles. And/Or B) We built fake alien vehicles.

ERW-X-post-1590739368503046145-FhNxBicVUAA69V9.jpg
4:13 PM · Nov 10, 2022

At this point I’m reasonably sure there are things that look like cool alien vehicle in some hangers. But I also grew up near Hollywood and remember super cool looking fake space cars visible off the Hollywood freeway.

So: does anyone have stories of building fake UFOs for USG?

ERW-X-post-1590739374559617025-FhNxB4iVUAg6Ff.jpg
4:13 PM · Nov 10, 2022

As you likely guessed, all the photos in this thread are fake military equipment. The airbase is totally fake. The dummy tanks are often inflated on the battlefield. The fake tank pieces are bolted on to real cars.

Q: Did we build fake UFOs in places like Wright-Patterson AFB?

ERW-X-post-1590739382201307140-FhNxCXaVUAA7vrd.jpg
4:13 PM · Nov 10, 2022

After studying this issue for 2yrs, I’m pretty convinced that there ARE wild looking vehicles in secret high security locations. But I also find NO SIGN OF OUR TOP PHYSICISTS. That is a huge red flag. If you had fake UFOs, you would have a puzzle for physics: What is the science?

4:13 PM · Nov 10, 2022

A true recovered interstellar craft would be like LHC or LIGO data: potential scientific data for physics beyond the Standard Model and General Relativity.

But if the crafts are fake, you would be crazy to let the A-team physicists near them. It would blow up in your face.

4:13 PM · Nov 10, 2022

So my ignorant question is this: are there stories of building fake UFOs for sites in Nevada? Ohio? Are there fake retrieval teams? To what extent does faking military equipment spill into faking a UFOgasm for decades?

Because there are too many very similar craft stories.

ERW-X-post-1590739390351159297-FhNxC3 VUAEUmwE.jpg
4:13 PM · Nov 10, 2022

So, at this point, the stories of craft kept at secret locations is most likely to be true in my opinion. But it is also true that all the top physics talent that was working only semi-covertly on suspicious gravity projects left by the early 1970s. So any craft may be faked.

4:13 PM · Nov 10, 2022

Either way, it’s a big deal. Everything changed in the early 70s. It’s impossible to say how much. The moment the Mansfield amendment came in, physics began to stagnate. And “Quantum Gravity” destroyed our culture of science. We don’t even whisper about its “Anti-Gravity” origin.

4:13 PM · Nov 10, 2022

So to sum up: there do *appear* to be craft. But advanced armies all build dummy weapons.

Q1: Do we have any Fakes?
Q2: Do we have only Fakes?
Q3: Why do we talk almost *exclusively* about Technology and not new Post-GR/SM science if there are *any* real interstellar craft?

🙏

4:13 PM · Nov 10, 2022

Note Added: many readers are making wild inferences about me talking about flying fakes. I was very clear that this was about apparent crafts on the ground and in Hangars in Nevada, Ohio & elsewhere.

Wild or bad inference patterns will get you blocked. I don’t have time. Thx.

5:16 PM · Nov 10, 2022


On YouTube

Cobalt and Blue-on-Blue Dynamics

Within this framework, "Cobalt" programs represent the highest level of compartmentalization. When civilians or uninitiated personnel ("Baby Blue") encounter these programs—often during routine operations—they may:

  • Misidentify the phenomenon as unexplained or non-terrestrial.
  • Report observations through standard channels, leading to reputational or career repercussions.
  • Be subject to internal disinformation or psychological operations to discredit their accounts.

This dynamic is described as "Baby Blue-on-Blue" fratricide—a failure mode within the intelligence and defense structure, where lack of communication between compartments results in friendly targeting, surveillance, or retaliation.

Criticism and Operational Concerns

The UAP = USAP model raises concerns about:

  • Gaslighting of internal experts and personnel: The use of Image Cheapening, FUD Campaigns, Prebunked Malinformation, and Digital Wetwork against cleared or credentialed experts, personnel, and professionals who inadvertently cross paths with USAP activity.
  • Lack of institutional accountability: Inability or unwillingness of leadership to reconcile internal inconsistencies due to structural secrecy.
  • Damage to human assets: The undermining of credible military, scientific, and intelligence professionals through covert suppression mechanisms.

While secrecy is acknowledged as a necessity in national defense, fratricidal secrecy architectures result in operational dysfunction, unethical practices, policy distortion, and harm to democratic oversight.

Implications

The hypothesis reframes UAP-related discourse as less about extraterrestrial visitation and more about:

It suggests that:

  • The U.S. government may exploit UAP narratives as plausible deniability.
  • Institutional mechanisms exist to contain internal leaks or misattributions, even at the cost of attacking patriotic insiders.
  • Public and congressional UAP discourse may be structurally decoupled from the true nature of observed phenomena.

The hypothesis does not claim to resolve the question of non-human intelligence but asserts that a significant portion of UAP data is functionally entangled with human, terrestrial, and clandestine or covert U.S. defense activity.

Related Pages

References

This article is based on interpretations and publicly available commentary, including interviews, podcasts, social media posts, and open-source summaries of Cobalt-related material (see Cobalt and Baby Blue-on-Blue). No classified or proprietary data has been used.

  1. ↑ "Humanity Needs a Plan B for Survival". The Portal Wiki. 27 March 2025. Retrieved 7 July 2025.
  2. ↑ "Eric Weinstein "We May Be Faking a UFO Situation..." - Skepticism Over Current State of UFO's". YouTube. 22 February 2023. Retrieved 7 July 2025.