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== Description ==
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[[File:ThePortal-Ep21 AshleyMathews-EricWeinstein.png|600px|thumb|right|Eric Weinstein (right) talking with Ashley Mathews (left), aka Riley Reid, on episode 21 of The Portal podcast]]
|title=The mogul and brains behind America's Sweetheart
Historically, fighting obscenity and indecency charges has always been a central part of the free speech movement. Jim Morrison, Mae West, Lenny Bruce and George Carlin have all been arrested for exciting the public in ways that authorities have found threatening. Recently, however, the erotic and comedic arts have undergone more cryptic attacks via [[Operation Chokepoint]], "cancellation", "no platforming", and inadequate press coverage given to cases of legal intimidation (e.g. the federal case under Miller v California standards brought against director John Stagliano).
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Historically, fighting obscenity and indecency charges has always been a central part of the free speech movement. Jim Morrison, Mae West, Lenny Bruce and George Carlin have all been arrested for exciting the public in ways that authorities have found threatening. Recently, however, the erotic and comedic arts have undergone more cryptic attacks via [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Point Operation Chokepoint], "cancellation", "no platforming", and inadequate press coverage given to cases of legal intimidation (e.g. the federal case under Miller v California standards brought against director John Stagliano).


In this episode, Eric sits down with the business woman who created the enduring character of the unlikely top pornstar [[Riley Reid]]. Continuing the theme of the [[Distributed Idea Suppression Complex|DISC (Distributed Idea Suppression Complex)]] we discuss issues like Operation Chokepoint and obscenity law as well more subtle issues like the difficulty of finding vendors willing to cross the Rubicon to work with legal erotic businesses.  
In this episode, Eric sits down with the business woman who created the enduring character of the unlikely top pornstar [[Riley Reid]]. Continuing the theme of the [[Distributed Idea Suppression Complex|DISC (Distributed Idea Suppression Complex)]] we discuss issues like Operation Chokepoint and obscenity law as well more subtle issues like the difficulty of finding vendors willing to cross the Rubicon to work with legal erotic businesses.  
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While this episode is generally not explicit, it is not for everyone given the content and so listener discretion is advised.  
While this episode is generally not explicit, it is not for everyone given the content and so listener discretion is advised.  


 
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== Transcript ==
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'''[01:18:41] Ashley Mathews:''' <span title="1:18:41">I've heard of it. I did not actually see it. </span>
'''[01:18:41] Ashley Mathews:''' <span title="1:18:41">I've heard of it. I did not actually see it. </span>
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'''[01:18:43] Eric Weinstein:''' <span title="1:18:43">Okay. You know, like, it's one thing to get a human to Mars, but it's much more difficult to imagine how we're going to get a human back. So maybe it's easy to go one way. I think of Planet Porn is like Mars.</span><span title="1:18:55">That very often, there's a portal into something where you have a lot more to learn. That's part of the reason that, you know, I was eager to have you on the program. But it's not clear that there's a return ticket.</span>
'''[01:18:43] Eric Weinstein:''' <span title="1:18:43">Okay. You know, like, it's one thing to get a human to Mars, but it's much more difficult to imagine how we're going to get a human back. So maybe it's easy to go one way. I think of Planet Porn is like Mars.</span><span title="1:18:55">That very often, there's a portal into something where you have a lot more to learn. That's part of the reason that, you know, I was eager to have you on the program. But it's not clear that there's a return ticket.</span>
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'''[01:52:16] Eric Weinstein:''' <span title="1:52:16">Okay, you've been through the portal with Ashley Matthews alias, Riley Reid. Thanks for joining us. And remember to subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and go to our YouTube channel. Subscribe there and click the bell so that you'll be updated whenever the next episode drops. Thanks for joining.</span>
'''[01:52:16] Eric Weinstein:''' <span title="1:52:16">Okay, you've been through the portal with Ashley Matthews alias, Riley Reid. Thanks for joining us. And remember to subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and go to our YouTube channel. Subscribe there and click the bell so that you'll be updated whenever the next episode drops. Thanks for joining.</span>


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