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''We need fights, we need critics, we need debates that are refereed, that are ethical, where people shake hands at the beginning and hug at the end, touch gloves, you know. We don't have that! And we're dying from that. You'll notice that, for example, in the String Theory and the String Theory critics, they basically don't appear on the same stage ever. And this has to do with Wrestling versus MMA. You notice that you don't seeāif wrestling is so effective, why don't we try it, like, professional wrestling inside of an MMA thing where you're jumping up on the cage and coming down and all this stuff, it's because one thing is an actual sport and one thing is a simulated sport. And I think that what we need is we need Queensberry Rules. Queensberry rules is how you avoid kayfabe, you have ideas, you can't gouge eyes. You can't use small digit manipulation where you break fingers. You can't go for the throat or the genitals. You put your finger onāI've never heard of this āCriticism Captureā, and I love it.'' | |||
''And that's why I developed the concept of the Streisand Squeeze. Either you allow us to whittle away at you, or you respond to us, you boost us, and you become part of the trap. You know, if you ever watch, like David Attenborough, naturalism, you'll see pack animals, whether it's orcas or hyenas, it doesn't matter. They do this thing where they nip at their target. And then there's this weird voiceover, which I don't understand at all. It says, you know, the hyenas are trying to trick the animal into expending its energy, to fend off these nips. The nips don't actually do much damage, but they do exhaust the animal, so it won't be able to fight later. So. Okay, so imagine that you don't respond to the nips. Do you live? No, no, no, no, youāthen the hyenas become emboldened, and then you die a different way! So my point is, is that evolution would certainly have figured out not to respond to the nips if that was a winning strategy.'' | |||
- '''Eric Weinstein''' on [https://youtu.be/PYRYXhU4kxM?t=4990 Modern Wisdom 833] | |||
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{{ | |content=P.S. if someone asks you why we arenāt releasing episodes or responding to some issues, send them here.Ā This is one of the main reasons post election. We would like to be back up at full throttle and hope to be so soon. | ||
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|content=[[Streisand Squeeze|The Streisand Squeeze]]: naming a new exploit. | |||
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Many of you have heard of āThe Streisand Effectā but may not know it has evolved into a tactic. Certainly I didnāt grasp this until recently, and I couldnāt find a description or name for it. Hence this thread. | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect | |||
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|content=Here is the basic idea. You have something like a podcast, community or product you want to promote. Only maybe itās tough to find an audience. So the exploit is that you are going use people who have built audiences to drive their traffic to you relying on digital harassment. | |||
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|content=For example, letās imagine Sally Gupta has built a brand and following and you want a chunk of it for your dental products website https://newtoothpaste.beauty | |||
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So you start harassing her (and other people w/ audiences) getting followers focused on her teeth. Itās free speech, right? | |||
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|content=Maybe Sally has a chipped tooth. Or maybe she has her own dental care line and you raise generic questions you know arenāt adding much of anything. | |||
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āWhat unsafe ingredients mightĀ Sally be hiding from customers of her toothpaste empire?ā | |||
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If she doesnāt respond? Sallyās hiding! | |||
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|content=The goal is to get Sally Gupta to react to drive traffic. So you try to needle Sally. But perhaps Sally has been coached not to react to avoid triggering the Streisand Effect. So what do you do? | |||
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Here is where the squeeze comes in. You feed others in Sallyās orbit or ecosystem. | |||
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|content=Once you map out who Sally knows you target people who are unsuspecting. Maybe you pose as a friend of Sally. Or maybe you look for someone in a conflict with her. Or you feed something pre-chewed to a blog or news cite. | |||
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If you succeed, you have locked Sally in a drama with you. | |||
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|content=But Sally may not even know who you are. She didnāt consent to be your friend. She didnāt do business w/ you. You forced her to contend w/ you despite no meaningful earlier connection. And now she has to swat you away by responding...which is your big win. She mentions the drama. | |||
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|content=Boom, now you are on her level. You have succeeded in getting into a dispute with someone with an audience even if Sally says āThis NewToothpaste company is relentlessly harassing me!ā Ha! She mentioned you!! | |||
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Thatās the [[Streisand Squeeze]]. Dramas one canāt respond to *or* ignore. | |||
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|content=Many of you have wanted to know why Iāve yet to restart the podcast. Well, right now I am targeted in more than one [[Streisand Squeeze]] plays. And, to be honest, I donāt know what to do. I get the advice you canāt respond. And I get the advice you canāt ignore. But I canāt do both. | |||
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|content=So one thing I may try to explain in a bit is that when I donāt respond to something, you may not be seeing the same iceberg I am. You may be seeing the tip. | |||
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In particular, the main tactic is to create fear & doubt: āThis podcast/person is running dangerous irresponsible cult.ā | |||
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|content=Many of you are away that @uberfeminist, @piney_the, @Sciencing_Bi were all trying to protect you from abusive scientists. | |||
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Only one problem: They were all fake harassing accounts pretending to promote health in the sciences or to tell you the truth. I was targeted w drama by 2. | |||
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|content=Well, now I am being targeted by different groups. In one case a modest collection of PhDs (I kid you not) who enjoy talking and laughing about doxing me, targeting my home, my family and about violently raping. I have been sent a large amount of evidence that is chilling. | |||
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|content=Iād like to avoid posting what I have. But groups attempt to force me to mention them & respond to them by harassment to drive traffic to their sites. I donāt know a soul who knows how to handle an āAcademe meets 4chanā community alternating between science & Rape/Doxx threats. | |||
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|content=So, hereās where we are. Iād like to podcast more. Rest assured we have a considerable amount of material scraped from the harassersā sites. We also now have real names in most, but not yet all, cases. But we would like to avoid getting into moronic drama. | |||
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Not sure what to do. | |||
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|content=If you have been through this with your following, I would value talking through legal, security, and social media strategies. If this is happening to me with different groups, I am guessing others have it worse with their followings. But [[Streisand Squeeze|The Streisand Squeeze]] is no joke. | |||
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|content=I just hope you never encounter it. It sickens me and sours me because there isnāt a great solution to a double bind. | |||
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I want to get back to bringing you things Iām excited about that are hopeful, new and may be a portal out of our current world of social media! | |||
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Thx for reading. | |||
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|content=Lastly if you see me not responding to something, consider the above. Use your noodle and it will make sense. | |||
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Iāll say more when and if I have this figured out a bit better. But we are really counseled to say *nothing* by the top people in security. Sucks man! But so it is. | |||
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Latest revision as of 04:53, 2 December 2025
The "Streisand Squeeze" is a strategic tactic conceptualized by Eric Weinstein, introduced in a Twitter thread on April 28, 2021. This concept builds on the "Streisand Effect"āa term derived from an incident involving Barbra Streisand, where efforts to suppress information inadvertently led to its wider dissemination.
Unlike the unintentional effect, the Streisand Squeeze involves deliberately engaging and harassing public individuals to provoke a response, thereby manipulating their audience to focus on a specific issue or narrative. This method incorporates elements of media manipulation, signal boosting, social engineering, and stalking, and involves initiating actions or comments that lead the targeted person to engage with them, thus drawing their audienceās attention to the initiatorās cause or message. This might involve controversy, misleading statements, or other forms of engagement that do not require the initiator to be straightforward or honest.
The Streisand Squeeze is an unethical strategy designed to manipulate, exploit, and erode public discourse and personal reputations. The desired outcome is twofold: increased visibility for the initiator's message or product, and potential discrediting or manipulation of the target's responses in ways that benefit the initiator.
I called this the Streisand Squeeze in a slightly different context. So the idea is that a low value human becomes obsessed with you because what they get out of it, is if you react to them, they want the attention and the portion of your audience that dislikes you to become their audience. And if you answer the criticism. like, intellectually, you're fundamentally playing into a gambit. So you try not answering the criticism, and then it becomes, why won't he answer his critics? And then you're saying, well, are you applying this criticism uniformly? Are youā? It's an absolutely diabolical situation.
- Eric Weinstein on Modern Wisdom 833
We need fights, we need critics, we need debates that are refereed, that are ethical, where people shake hands at the beginning and hug at the end, touch gloves, you know. We don't have that! And we're dying from that. You'll notice that, for example, in the String Theory and the String Theory critics, they basically don't appear on the same stage ever. And this has to do with Wrestling versus MMA. You notice that you don't seeāif wrestling is so effective, why don't we try it, like, professional wrestling inside of an MMA thing where you're jumping up on the cage and coming down and all this stuff, it's because one thing is an actual sport and one thing is a simulated sport. And I think that what we need is we need Queensberry Rules. Queensberry rules is how you avoid kayfabe, you have ideas, you can't gouge eyes. You can't use small digit manipulation where you break fingers. You can't go for the throat or the genitals. You put your finger onāI've never heard of this āCriticism Captureā, and I love it.
And that's why I developed the concept of the Streisand Squeeze. Either you allow us to whittle away at you, or you respond to us, you boost us, and you become part of the trap. You know, if you ever watch, like David Attenborough, naturalism, you'll see pack animals, whether it's orcas or hyenas, it doesn't matter. They do this thing where they nip at their target. And then there's this weird voiceover, which I don't understand at all. It says, you know, the hyenas are trying to trick the animal into expending its energy, to fend off these nips. The nips don't actually do much damage, but they do exhaust the animal, so it won't be able to fight later. So. Okay, so imagine that you don't respond to the nips. Do you live? No, no, no, no, youāthen the hyenas become emboldened, and then you die a different way! So my point is, is that evolution would certainly have figured out not to respond to the nips if that was a winning strategy.
- Eric Weinstein on Modern Wisdom 833
On X[edit]
The Streisand Squeeze: naming a new exploit.
Many of you have heard of āThe Streisand Effectā but may not know it has evolved into a tactic. Certainly I didnāt grasp this until recently, and I couldnāt find a description or name for it. Hence this thread. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
Here is the basic idea. You have something like a podcast, community or product you want to promote. Only maybe itās tough to find an audience. So the exploit is that you are going use people who have built audiences to drive their traffic to you relying on digital harassment.
For example, letās imagine Sally Gupta has built a brand and following and you want a chunk of it for your dental products website https://newtoothpaste.beauty
So you start harassing her (and other people w/ audiences) getting followers focused on her teeth. Itās free speech, right?
Maybe Sally has a chipped tooth. Or maybe she has her own dental care line and you raise generic questions you know arenāt adding much of anything.
āWhat unsafe ingredients might Sally be hiding from customers of her toothpaste empire?ā
If she doesnāt respond? Sallyās hiding!
The goal is to get Sally Gupta to react to drive traffic. So you try to needle Sally. But perhaps Sally has been coached not to react to avoid triggering the Streisand Effect. So what do you do?
Here is where the squeeze comes in. You feed others in Sallyās orbit or ecosystem.
Once you map out who Sally knows you target people who are unsuspecting. Maybe you pose as a friend of Sally. Or maybe you look for someone in a conflict with her. Or you feed something pre-chewed to a blog or news cite.
If you succeed, you have locked Sally in a drama with you.
But Sally may not even know who you are. She didnāt consent to be your friend. She didnāt do business w/ you. You forced her to contend w/ you despite no meaningful earlier connection. And now she has to swat you away by responding...which is your big win. She mentions the drama.
Boom, now you are on her level. You have succeeded in getting into a dispute with someone with an audience even if Sally says āThis NewToothpaste company is relentlessly harassing me!ā Ha! She mentioned you!!
Thatās the Streisand Squeeze. Dramas one canāt respond to *or* ignore.
Many of you have wanted to know why Iāve yet to restart the podcast. Well, right now I am targeted in more than one Streisand Squeeze plays. And, to be honest, I donāt know what to do. I get the advice you canāt respond. And I get the advice you canāt ignore. But I canāt do both.
So one thing I may try to explain in a bit is that when I donāt respond to something, you may not be seeing the same iceberg I am. You may be seeing the tip.
In particular, the main tactic is to create fear & doubt: āThis podcast/person is running dangerous irresponsible cult.ā
Many of you are away that @uberfeminist, @piney_the, @Sciencing_Bi were all trying to protect you from abusive scientists.
Only one problem: They were all fake harassing accounts pretending to promote health in the sciences or to tell you the truth. I was targeted w drama by 2.
Well, now I am being targeted by different groups. In one case a modest collection of PhDs (I kid you not) who enjoy talking and laughing about doxing me, targeting my home, my family and about violently raping. I have been sent a large amount of evidence that is chilling.
Iād like to avoid posting what I have. But groups attempt to force me to mention them & respond to them by harassment to drive traffic to their sites. I donāt know a soul who knows how to handle an āAcademe meets 4chanā community alternating between science & Rape/Doxx threats.
So, hereās where we are. Iād like to podcast more. Rest assured we have a considerable amount of material scraped from the harassersā sites. We also now have real names in most, but not yet all, cases. But we would like to avoid getting into moronic drama.
Not sure what to do.
If you have been through this with your following, I would value talking through legal, security, and social media strategies. If this is happening to me with different groups, I am guessing others have it worse with their followings. But The Streisand Squeeze is no joke.
I just hope you never encounter it. It sickens me and sours me because there isnāt a great solution to a double bind.
I want to get back to bringing you things Iām excited about that are hopeful, new and may be a portal out of our current world of social media!
Thx for reading.
Lastly if you see me not responding to something, consider the above. Use your noodle and it will make sense.
Iāll say more when and if I have this figured out a bit better. But we are really counseled to say *nothing* by the top people in security. Sucks man! But so it is.
š
P.S. if someone asks you why we arenāt releasing episodes or responding to some issues, send them here. This is one of the main reasons post election. We would like to be back up at full throttle and hope to be so soon.
[Not sure how many will see this these days on Twitter.]
