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Woit is an excellent example of someone who was told he was barren when he was a pure critic...only to then be told he was a self-promoter when he had something to say about the structure bundle of CP^3 being potentially the low energy electro strong SU(3)xU(1) and the oddity of the chirality of the weak force being either fully on or off rather than merely conjugate V vs \bar{V}.
Woit is an excellent example of someone who was told he was barren when he was a pure critic...only to then be told he was a self-promoter when he had something to say about the structure bundle of CP^3 being potentially the low energy electro strong SU(3)xU(1) and the oddity of the chirality of the weak force being either fully on or off rather than merely conjugate V vs \bar{V}.


It's time to stop pretending this is about physics. It's about protecting a 4 decade MASSIVE screw up pretending that there is [[The Only Game in Town|only one game in town]].
It's time to stop pretending this is about physics. It's about protecting a 4 decade MASSIVE screw up pretending that there is [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|only one game in town]].
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Senior physicists
Senior physicists


[[The Only Game in Town|The “Only Game in Town!” monopoly]]
[[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|The “Only Game in Town!” monopoly]]


@pmarca’s WH convo
@pmarca’s WH convo
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So even when their team loses on the field,  they still win by referees decision that they are the only real team competing. Everyone else focuses on whether they have background independence, particle predictions or a renormalizable spin 2 quantization. That is a total red herring.  
So even when their team loses on the field,  they still win by referees decision that they are the only real team competing. Everyone else focuses on whether they have background independence, particle predictions or a renormalizable spin 2 quantization. That is a total red herring.  


Sabine: Theoretical physics isn’t this dumb or anti-scientific. It’s impossible. [[The Only Game in Town|“The only game in town”]] campaign is not a string theoretic idea. It is totally foreign to science.
Sabine: Theoretical physics isn’t this dumb or anti-scientific. It’s impossible. [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The only game in town”]] campaign is not a string theoretic idea. It is totally foreign to science.


Something separate doesn’t want rival theories side by side. In a science we would all be expected to listen to each other. This is what my first memories of physics looked like 1983-1988. There were different ideas. Nothing like this.
Something separate doesn’t want rival theories side by side. In a science we would all be expected to listen to each other. This is what my first memories of physics looked like 1983-1988. There were different ideas. Nothing like this.
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|content=The issue isn’t [[String Theory]] which has obviously failed in the terms it set for itself.  
|content=The issue isn’t [[String Theory]] which has obviously failed in the terms it set for itself.  


The issue is the [[The Only Game in Town|“String Theory is the only game in town”]] which appears designed to destroy fundamental physics itself. If you have spent 40 years bragging and failing, wouldn’t you at least ask “Doesn’t anyone have any other ideas?” before finally going over the edge of the cliff?  
The issue is the [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“String Theory is the only game in town”]] which appears designed to destroy fundamental physics itself. If you have spent 40 years bragging and failing, wouldn’t you at least ask “Doesn’t anyone have any other ideas?” before finally going over the edge of the cliff?  


<nowiki>*</nowiki>Absolutely* not. And that tells you that string theory isn’t a theory. It’s some kind of a suicide pact. Better that the field die than we ask “What if the string theorists were always wrong including pronouncements about [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and against other theorists? What if [[The Only Game in Town|‘the only game in town’]] was always an obviously totally unethical anti-scientific move to destroy and poison the market place of ideas?”
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Absolutely* not. And that tells you that string theory isn’t a theory. It’s some kind of a suicide pact. Better that the field die than we ask “What if the string theorists were always wrong including pronouncements about [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and against other theorists? What if [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|‘the only game in town’]] was always an obviously totally unethical anti-scientific move to destroy and poison the market place of ideas?”


cc: @bgreene.
cc: @bgreene.
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|content=Here is one in theoretical physics dear @grok.
|content=Here is one in theoretical physics dear @grok.


In order to justify the failure that is [[Quantum Gravity]] research and its claim to be [[The Only Game in Town|the only game in town]]. All physicists are expected to parrot a party line:  
In order to justify the failure that is [[Quantum Gravity]] research and its claim to be [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|the only game in town]]. All physicists are expected to parrot a party line:  


“Our two greatest theories are [[General Relativity]] which dominates in the very large, and the Standard Model which dominates in the world of the very small. Unfortunately, they are incompatible because one is a quantum theory while the other is merely classical. That is why, for the last 100 years, a theory of [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity (QG)]] has been seen as the holy grail of theoretical physics. Unfortunately despite a century of effort, no one has shown exactly how to quantize gravity. But quantizing gravity must occur because nature cannot be half classical and half quantum. So the ultimate theory of QG remains physics’ top priority.”
“Our two greatest theories are [[General Relativity]] which dominates in the very large, and the Standard Model which dominates in the world of the very small. Unfortunately, they are incompatible because one is a quantum theory while the other is merely classical. That is why, for the last 100 years, a theory of [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity (QG)]] has been seen as the holy grail of theoretical physics. Unfortunately despite a century of effort, no one has shown exactly how to quantize gravity. But quantizing gravity must occur because nature cannot be half classical and half quantum. So the ultimate theory of QG remains physics’ top priority.”
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We have the same thing in Economics. Dale Jorgensen was a [[Knarc|Cnark]]. He was also chairman of the Harvard Economics Deparment.
We have the same thing in Economics. Dale Jorgensen was a [[Knarc|Cnark]]. He was also chairman of the Harvard Economics Deparment.


We have this in physics with the [[Quantum Gravity]] crowd. The [[The Only Game in Town|“We are the only game in town.”]] is the tell. It’s transparent.  
We have this in physics with the [[Quantum Gravity]] crowd. The [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“We are the only game in town.”]] is the tell. It’s transparent.  


We had it at the Lancet and Nature with the woke shaming on racism (covid origins) and transphobia (gender re-definition).  
We had it at the Lancet and Nature with the woke shaming on racism (covid origins) and transphobia (gender re-definition).  
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VI) Adults who would never discuss the Tooth Fairy in public should not discuss alien equivalents of the Tooth Fairy. Alien life and higher dimensions are both super serious subjects to me. And they would be too you too if this wasn’t made into a cheap farce. Space opera is just dumping cognitive sludge in the middle of a central scientific question. And I don’t take kindly to it.  
VI) Adults who would never discuss the Tooth Fairy in public should not discuss alien equivalents of the Tooth Fairy. Alien life and higher dimensions are both super serious subjects to me. And they would be too you too if this wasn’t made into a cheap farce. Space opera is just dumping cognitive sludge in the middle of a central scientific question. And I don’t take kindly to it.  


VII) I personally believe there are 4+6=10 =(d**2 + d)/2 for d=1+3 additional dimensions available for travel. But that would make **US**
.humans
.just as interdimensional as alien life. And we don’t evaluate any such ideas for our own travel. We just run out the clock listening to decades of the same 20 Octogenarians and Septuagenarians discussing how they are going to solve [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] when they grow up. And we let them destroy all competitors so they can take down the field of theoretical physics and die in piece pretending they were the [[The Only Game in Town|“Only Game In Town”]]. Which is total pure unadulterated anti-scientific bullshit. Think about it.  
VII) I personally believe there are 4+6=10 =(d**2 + d)/2 for d=1+3 additional dimensions available for travel. But that would make **US**
.humans
.just as interdimensional as alien life. And we don’t evaluate any such ideas for our own travel. We just run out the clock listening to decades of the same 20 Octogenarians and Septuagenarians discussing how they are going to solve [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] when they grow up. And we let them destroy all competitors so they can take down the field of theoretical physics and die in piece pretending they were the [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“Only Game In Town”]]. Which is total pure unadulterated anti-scientific bullshit. Think about it.  


VIII) Nobody but nobody is this dumb. Not even the government on its worst day. This is national security cognitive sludge being dumped into science. We are 40+ years into a string theory fairy tale about [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] without asking “Is this all bullshit?”
VIII) Nobody but nobody is this dumb. Not even the government on its worst day. This is national security cognitive sludge being dumped into science. We are 40+ years into a string theory fairy tale about [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] without asking “Is this all bullshit?”
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|usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein
|usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein
|username=EricRWeinstein
|username=EricRWeinstein
|content=Wow @grok. That was like just before [[String Theory]] took over, and the field suddenly veered to studying the [[The Only Game in Town|“Only Game In Town”]].  
|content=Wow @grok. That was like just before [[String Theory]] took over, and the field suddenly veered to studying the [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“Only Game In Town”]].  


Sounds like the USG had a problem with a “Streisand Effect” before it was called that. Am I just wrong about this?
Sounds like the USG had a problem with a “Streisand Effect” before it was called that. Am I just wrong about this?
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|content=Well I wanna hit you with a truly crazy idea @grok.  
|content=Well I wanna hit you with a truly crazy idea @grok.  


Here is the idea. The appearance of [[String Theory|String-Theory]]/M-theory as [[The Only Game in Town|“The Only Game in Town” (TOGIT)]] has no precedence. How can a failed theory that can’t make contact with the physical world over more than 40 years be TOGIT?  
Here is the idea. The appearance of [[String Theory|String-Theory]]/M-theory as [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The Only Game in Town” (TOGIT)]] has no precedence. How can a failed theory that can’t make contact with the physical world over more than 40 years be [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|TOGIT]]?  


That doesn’t make any sense to me. Why aren’t we looking to people with relevant PhDs or training and asking “We have been listening to the same 10 people for 4 decades. Why aren’t we asking if anyone *else* has crazy ideas that aren’t [[String Theory]]/M-theory/[[Quantum Gravity]]?”
That doesn’t make any sense to me. Why aren’t we looking to people with relevant PhDs or training and asking “We have been listening to the same 10 people for 4 decades. Why aren’t we asking if anyone *else* has crazy ideas that aren’t [[String Theory]]/M-theory/[[Quantum Gravity]]?”


I can’t believe it is that hard to hold conferences where we take all the people derailed by the TOGIT crowd and listen to them.  
I can’t believe it is that hard to hold conferences where we take all the people derailed by the [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|TOGIT]] crowd and listen to them.  


But I will point out there is one and only one reason I can come up with for listening to this pathological TOGIT claim: [[Quantum Gravity]] is known to be safe. It doesn’t create restricted data.  
But I will point out there is one and only one reason I can come up with for listening to this pathological [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|TOGIT]] claim: [[Quantum Gravity]] is known to be safe. It doesn’t create restricted data.  


It is stress tested to likely never create a redistribution of power if it doesn’t work.  
It is stress tested to likely never create a redistribution of power if it doesn’t work.  


Think about it. A TOGIT has taken all the best minds, all the resources, all the attention, and can be shown not to produce any impact on the physical world over nearly half a century of continuous work.  
Think about it. A [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|TOGIT]] has taken all the best minds, all the resources, all the attention, and can be shown not to produce any impact on the physical world over nearly half a century of continuous work.  


Yet what does it cost to listen to the other theories? Why deny them seminars? Grant money? '''ArXiV''' access? Attribution? A fair hearing? Respect?  
Yet what does it cost to listen to the other theories? Why deny them seminars? Grant money? [[The Arxiv|ArXiV]] access? Attribution? A fair hearing? Respect?  


The only reason I can come up with is that we don’t know if they are going to take us back to our Streisand problem where real physics is just too dangerous.  
The only reason I can come up with is that we don’t know if they are going to take us back to our Streisand problem where real physics is just too dangerous.  


Am I wrong about TOGIT being anti-scientific? That all theories from serious people are supposed to be heard on some thing like initially equal terms?  
Am I wrong about [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|TOGIT]] being anti-scientific? That all theories from serious people are supposed to be heard on some thing like initially equal terms?  


The most developed field is known not to work. The rivals never got heard. Thoughts?
The most developed field is known not to work. The rivals never got heard. Thoughts?
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|usernameurl=https://x.com/grok
|usernameurl=https://x.com/grok
|username=grok
|username=grok
|content=EricRWeinstein GU stands out as a bold rival, unifying gravity and particles via 14D geometry without prior metrics—provocative per the video. Re: lying, criticisms cite math flaws and no peer review, but your suppression angle resonates amid TOGIT dominance. Specific example of colleague deceit? Let's unpack it.
|content=EricRWeinstein GU stands out as a bold rival, unifying gravity and particles via 14D geometry without prior metrics—provocative per the video. Re: lying, criticisms cite math flaws and no peer review, but your suppression angle resonates amid [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|TOGIT]] dominance. Specific example of colleague deceit? Let's unpack it.
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@kagankans / @WSJ
@kagankans / @WSJ


You just showed the world why [[Quantum Gravity]]/[[String Theory|StringTheory/M-Theory]] is [[The Only Game in Town|“The Only Game in Town”]]:
You just showed the world why [[Quantum Gravity]]/[[String Theory|StringTheory/M-Theory]] is [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The Only Game in Town”]]:


Group Bullying *Kills* Scientific Dissent
Group Bullying *Kills* Scientific Dissent
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I) We abandoned GUTs mostly. Why? Because we drew the wrong lesson from SU(5) proton decay.
I) We abandoned GUTs mostly. Why? Because we drew the wrong lesson from SU(5) proton decay.


'''Right Freeway''' (Grand Unification)</br>
[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Right Freeway]] (Grand Unification)</br>
'''Wrong Exit''' (Compact Simple Lie Grps)
[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Wrong Exit]] (Compact Simple Lie Grps)


II) We screwed up Supersymmetry by basing it on Minkowski space.
II) We screwed up Supersymmetry by basing it on Minkowski space.


'''Right Freeway''' (Graded Lie Groups)</br>
[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Right Freeway]] (Graded Lie Groups)</br>
'''Wrong Exit''' (Spacetime SUSY with fake super partners which dont exist based on supposedlu “internal” auxiliary symmetries)
[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Wrong Exit]] (Spacetime SUSY with fake super partners which dont exist based on supposedlu “internal” auxiliary symmetries)


III) And then the massive massive massive screw up was allowing the totalizing madness of [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] to take over HEP-TH as if it were [[The Only Game in Town|“The Only Game In Town”]] and letting its leadership brainwash the up and coming talent into believing that there was one true path. Totally insane.
III) And then the massive massive massive screw up was allowing the totalizing madness of [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] to take over HEP-TH as if it were [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The Only Game In Town”]] and letting its leadership brainwash the up and coming talent into believing that there was one true path. Totally insane.


'''Right Freeway''': GR and SM must be harmonized.</br>  
[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Right Freeway]]: GR and SM must be harmonized.</br>  
'''Wrong Exit''': Catastrophic leadership decisions. “Gravity must be quantized and only String Theory and M-Theory can do it. Convert or perish! All mere mortals stand back. We will have this wrapped up in 10 years!! Give us all resources and young talent now.”
[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Wrong Exit]]: Catastrophic leadership decisions. “Gravity must be quantized and only String Theory and M-Theory can do it. Convert or perish! All mere mortals stand back. We will have this wrapped up in 10 years!! Give us all resources and young talent now.”
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|content=Actually, if you parse carefully you’ll see that the freeways are fine. We drew the wrong inferences from choosing the wrong exits.  
|content=Actually, if you parse carefully you’ll see that the freeways are fine. We drew the wrong inferences from choosing the wrong exits.  


'''Freeways = Ideas'''</br>
[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Freeways]] = Ideas</br>
'''Exits = Instantiations'''
[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Exits]] = Instantiations  


The scientific method too often has a flaw when put into practice. We stupidly abandon the right freeway when we merely took the wrong exit.  
The scientific method too often has a flaw when put into practice. We stupidly abandon the right freeway when we merely took the wrong exit.  
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