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|content=I should say that Gauge theoretic economics is also all about [[Academic Freedom|academic freedom]], quashed as it was by the rennegade [[Boskin Commission]] idiocy.
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|content=New Topic: "What's your vision of true [[Academic Freedom|academic freedom]]?" [Asks @Philip_Girvan.]
|timestamp=8:04 PM · Dec 19, 2009
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|content=An old joke about the diference between the Soviet and US constitutions. Both give freedom to dissent. The US gives freedom the day after.
|timestamp=8:10 PM · Dec 19, 2009
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|content=[[Academic Freedom|Academic freedom]] is about making secure heroes out of Margot O'toole, Doug Prasher & Nassim Taleb instead of pushing them to the periphery.
|timestamp=8:17 PM · Dec 19, 2009
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|content=[[Academic Freedom|Academic freedom]] is freedom to invite a senior colleague to self-copulate for inserting himself before your name on YOUR paper..and survive.
|timestamp=8:22 PM · Dec 19, 2009
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|content=[[Academic Freedom|Academic freedom]] comes from the academic *obligation* to schedule lectures if you have even the possibility of strong disruptive results.
|timestamp=8:24 PM · Dec 19, 2009
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|content=[[Academic Freedom|Academic freedom]] entails a right for a non-expert theorist of high ability to cross boundaries and live on merit without seeking permission.
|timestamp=8:27 PM · Dec 19, 2009
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|content=[[Academic Freedom|Academic freedom]] is the insulation from threat or want to continue in good standing for *any* and *all* contributions & reasoned dissent.
|timestamp=8:31 PM · Dec 19, 2009
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|content=What few people admit is that opposing  "[[String Theory]]", "[[Great Moderation|The Great Moderation]]", "[[Labor Shortages|Scientist Shortages]]" etc...leads to excommunication.
|timestamp=8:37 PM · Dec 19, 2009
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|content=This was best put by @BretWeinstein: "Selection is to be feared only when just individuals are prevented from returning costs."
|timestamp=8:48 PM · Dec 19, 2009
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|content=So @ahaspel asks what institutional reforms are needed (which was where I was headed when a birthday party occured in physical reality).
|timestamp=10:55 PM · Dec 19, 2009
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|content=First of all, I am focused primarily on science. If universities can't provide [[Academic Freedom|Academic freedom]], science needs to move homes.
|timestamp=11:42 PM · Dec 19, 2009
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|content=Next: Basic research in science is a public good (inexhaustible and inexcludible). Therefore we need higher levels of public funding.
|timestamp=11:43 PM · Dec 19, 2009
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|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/6843422913
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|content=To maintain [[Academic Freedom|academic freedom]] we need to move resources from what is falsely called 'scientific training' to the compensation of researchers.
|timestamp=11:48 PM · Dec 19, 2009
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|content=To get strong individuals, our target for researchers should be something like MA by 21-22 PhD by 25-26, permanent job by 26-28 (approx.).
|timestamp=11:57 PM · Dec 19, 2009
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|content=Graduate training is actually much shorter than assumed. Typically one is a graduate 'student' in year 1,2 of a PhD and working thereafter.
|timestamp=12:04 AM · Dec 20, 2009
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|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/6843869151
|name=Eric Weinstein
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|content=Raising PhDs should be Eusocial. Giving students to PI's in a 1 on 1 relationship is like parking choir boys with priests. Better in theory.
|timestamp=12:06 AM · Dec 20, 2009
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|content=We must also fund entirely different sorts of people. Without Huxleys, Grossmans, & Hardys you don't get Darwins, Einsteins, & Ramanujans.
|timestamp=12:14 AM · Dec 20, 2009
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|content=A central point: scientists are supposed to be K-selected but universities are hell bent for leather to r-select PhDs.
Yet that's insane.
|timestamp=1:40 AM · Dec 20, 2009
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|content=Research & Teaching in Universities are as perfectly linked as Skiing & Shooting in the Biathalon: tenuously for all but Professors / Finns.
|timestamp=1:53 AM · Dec 20, 2009
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|content=Last point for now:
Freedom for academics is precisely freedom from academics. A real marketplace of ideas beats the pants off peer review.
|timestamp=1:59 AM · Dec 20, 2009
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|content=Something occurs to me. If you've never had reason to test your own [[Academic Freedom|academic freedom]], you may have absolutely no idea what animated me.
|timestamp=1:55 PM · Dec 20, 2009
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|content=On May 23, 2003 an extraordinary talk at NAS called “Exactly Backwards: Scientific Manpower Theory” was given.There is no record of this.
|timestamp=2:29 PM · Dec 20, 2009
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|content=The talk was so extraordinary that it was repeated again at NAS 11 days later on June 3, 2003. Again there is no meaningful record of this.
|timestamp=2:33 PM · Dec 20, 2009
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|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/6861511471
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|content=The talk presented evidence to the [[National Academy of Sciences (NAS)|National Academy of Sciences]] that NAS & [[National Science Foundation|@NSF]] partnered to manipulate markets over scientist salaries.
|timestamp=2:38 PM · Dec 20, 2009
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|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/6869677070
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|content=Now ask yourself why would [[National Science Foundation|@NSF]] be trying to weaken American scientists? Why would [[National Academy of Sciences (NAS)|NAS]] help? How would [[National Science Foundation|NSF]] dependent scientists self-defend?
|timestamp=8:11 PM · Dec 20, 2009
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|content=Gauge theoretic economics interest has come recently from @mathpunk @dabacon @diffeomacx @riemanmzeta @tylercowen @ahaspel etc... Loving it.
|timestamp=3:02 AM · Dec 21, 2009
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|timestamp=3:11 AM · Dec 21, 2009
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Revision as of 05:01, 27 October 2025

On X

2009

Confused by the fact that science sees religion as its chief threat. Might we worry instead about threats posed by NSF/NIH/NAS?

1:14 PM · Jul 27, 2009


For @dabacon: "NSF/NAS study ways of glutting markets to depress wages for universities and other employers ignoring the scientific impact."

2:20 AM · Nov 24, 2009

BTW @dabacon, any fear of writing such a blog post is meant to be covered by your academic freedom. Your fear, is exactly my point.

QED.

2:26 AM · Nov 24, 2009

New Topic: "What's your vision of true academic freedom?" [Asks @Philip_Girvan.]

8:04 PM · Dec 19, 2009

An old joke about the diference between the Soviet and US constitutions. Both give freedom to dissent. The US gives freedom the day after.

8:10 PM · Dec 19, 2009

Academic freedom is about making secure heroes out of Margot O'toole, Doug Prasher & Nassim Taleb instead of pushing them to the periphery.

8:17 PM · Dec 19, 2009

Academic freedom is freedom to invite a senior colleague to self-copulate for inserting himself before your name on YOUR paper..and survive.

8:22 PM · Dec 19, 2009

Academic freedom comes from the academic *obligation* to schedule lectures if you have even the possibility of strong disruptive results.

8:24 PM · Dec 19, 2009

Academic freedom entails a right for a non-expert theorist of high ability to cross boundaries and live on merit without seeking permission.

8:27 PM · Dec 19, 2009

Academic freedom is the insulation from threat or want to continue in good standing for *any* and *all* contributions & reasoned dissent.

8:31 PM · Dec 19, 2009

What few people admit is that opposing "String Theory", "The Great Moderation", "Scientist Shortages" etc...leads to excommunication.

8:37 PM · Dec 19, 2009

This was best put by @BretWeinstein: "Selection is to be feared only when just individuals are prevented from returning costs."

8:48 PM · Dec 19, 2009

So @ahaspel asks what institutional reforms are needed (which was where I was headed when a birthday party occured in physical reality).

10:55 PM · Dec 19, 2009

First of all, I am focused primarily on science. If universities can't provide Academic freedom, science needs to move homes.

11:42 PM · Dec 19, 2009

Next: Basic research in science is a public good (inexhaustible and inexcludible). Therefore we need higher levels of public funding.

11:43 PM · Dec 19, 2009

To maintain academic freedom we need to move resources from what is falsely called 'scientific training' to the compensation of researchers.

11:48 PM · Dec 19, 2009

To get strong individuals, our target for researchers should be something like MA by 21-22 PhD by 25-26, permanent job by 26-28 (approx.).

11:57 PM · Dec 19, 2009

Graduate training is actually much shorter than assumed. Typically one is a graduate 'student' in year 1,2 of a PhD and working thereafter.

12:04 AM · Dec 20, 2009

Raising PhDs should be Eusocial. Giving students to PI's in a 1 on 1 relationship is like parking choir boys with priests. Better in theory.

12:06 AM · Dec 20, 2009

We must also fund entirely different sorts of people. Without Huxleys, Grossmans, & Hardys you don't get Darwins, Einsteins, & Ramanujans.

12:14 AM · Dec 20, 2009

A central point: scientists are supposed to be K-selected but universities are hell bent for leather to r-select PhDs.

Yet that's insane.

1:40 AM · Dec 20, 2009

Research & Teaching in Universities are as perfectly linked as Skiing & Shooting in the Biathalon: tenuously for all but Professors / Finns.

1:53 AM · Dec 20, 2009

Last point for now: Freedom for academics is precisely freedom from academics. A real marketplace of ideas beats the pants off peer review.

1:59 AM · Dec 20, 2009

Something occurs to me. If you've never had reason to test your own academic freedom, you may have absolutely no idea what animated me.

1:55 PM · Dec 20, 2009

On May 23, 2003 an extraordinary talk at NAS called “Exactly Backwards: Scientific Manpower Theory” was given.There is no record of this.

2:29 PM · Dec 20, 2009

The talk was so extraordinary that it was repeated again at NAS 11 days later on June 3, 2003. Again there is no meaningful record of this.

2:33 PM · Dec 20, 2009

The talk presented evidence to the National Academy of Sciences that NAS & @NSF partnered to manipulate markets over scientist salaries.

2:38 PM · Dec 20, 2009

Now ask yourself why would @NSF be trying to weaken American scientists? Why would NAS help? How would NSF dependent scientists self-defend?

8:11 PM · Dec 20, 2009

Gauge theoretic economics interest has come recently from @mathpunk @dabacon @diffeomacx @riemanmzeta @tylercowen @ahaspel etc... Loving it.

3:02 AM · Dec 21, 2009

I should say that Gauge theoretic economics is also all about academic freedom, quashed as it was by the rennegade Boskin Commission idiocy.

3:11 AM · Dec 21, 2009