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|content=I‘m considering telling the story but I’ve never felt comfortable telling it in public. We oddly resent those who rescue us; I‘ll never know if I could have done it alone. Knowing me, he essentially tricked me into accepting help to spare me the wound to my pride. A great man. 🙏 | |||
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|content=Sometimes people take pride in being self taught. But in my case this is defensive. | |||
I would have been honored to have been a part of a chain. I just never found my mentor in time. [[Isadore Singer]] should have been my advisor. | |||
Here is Herbie on Miles Davis: | |||
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|content=If you aren’t lucky enough to find a master, as Herbie says, who can lead you to your own voice, you need to be your own advisor and there are so many problems you‘ll have to overcome because you are always living in your own blind spot. | |||
It’s an inferior road. But it’s possible. | |||
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|content=I don’t know that I’ve spoken publicly about it like this. So I’m trying it out. This is real Kung Fu Panda stuff. | |||
It bothers me that '''Raoul Bott''' is listed as my supervisor on my Wikipedia entry. He wasn’t. | |||
What he was, was my hero who rescued me. A far more impressive role. | |||
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|content=[Not to be crass: but I can usually tell within the 1st minute what is happening to the throttling of my tweets: this is not being widely seen. I'm trying to say something meaningful about a departed friend @jack. Could you please take a personal interest & stop the throttling?!] | |||
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|content=[[Isadore Singer]] & '''Raoul Bott''' worked in almost exactly the same area. They collaborated with exactly the same people. They worked in adjacent zip codes (02138 vs 02139). They both had claims to the "greatest topological theorem" of the 20th century. | |||
They never co-authored a paper. | |||
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|content=I've known only three minds personally who I'm convinced will be discussed 1000 years from now if humans survive: James Watson, '''Raoul Bott''' and [[Isadore Singer]] (I met Atiyah & Witten but did not know them). | |||
Is & Raoul however both collaborated on my rescue in Graduate school. | |||
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|content=Perhaps with both of these giants now gone it is time to tell my story. I'm not sure. I have never told it publicly in full. But they both are heroic men beyond being great minds. | |||
Had they surmounted their personal difficulties their collaborations could have changed the world. | |||
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|content=They worked down the same street. I was at times a ping pong ball they sent back & forth between Building 2 at MIT & Harvard Science Center rm 508 (I think) along a 45 minute walk. I very much respected that they chose not to air any difficulties. They had respect for each other. | |||
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|content=One reason I largely kept quiet about my story is respect for both men. They both defended and believed in the system. But, in part they believed in it BECAUSE they were so powerful that they could act as an underground railroad when that system failed: | |||
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|content=So, in part, I'm their collaboration. Raoul was not my advisor. He had no real idea what I was doing. But he was far more than that. Is was my shtarker. My ace in the hole. | |||
They worked as a team to help me; their failure to talk directly was the main clue I had of anything amiss. | |||
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|content=Lastly, there is the matter of my wedding. Is came to our event but I didn't invite Raoul. I did not understand what he had done for me. It is one of the biggest mistakes of my life. When the internet tries to insist to me that I am his student, I want to tell them what happend. | |||
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|content=The truth is that I would have been proud to be the student of '''Raoul Bott'''. I would have a storied lineage to claim. | |||
The truth is '''Raoul''' gave me his name for a self-advised thesis. And like a fool I resented it. Yet how much greater is the man who lends his last name to a Bastard. | |||
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|content=In any event. I miss Is very much, but never expected to see him again. And I'm wrestling w the idea that I'm now free to tell my own story after 25yrs of saying very little in public. One of the reasons I don't take kindly to internet warfare is that I have large debts to pay. | |||
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|content=The more I subject myself to mindless politics, catfighting, shadowbanning & trolling, the harder it is to fight for others/myself and to pay the debts to the giants who rescued me along my way. I don't know how I'd have done w/o them. | |||
But I needed to grow this voice to do it. | |||
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|content=Lastly, I used to have a relationship to a very different @nytimes. Thus when I read Is' obituarty I was shocked to see @julierehmeyer's beautiful tribute including my own quotes on Is. It made me sad to think about how much has been lost. Sadly, those quotes came from long ago. | |||
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|content=If you haven't read her piece, I think it is quite moving even though it is no more than a sketch. End. | |||
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/12/science/isadore-singer-dead.html | |||
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Sometimes people take pride in being self taught. But in my case this is defensive.
I would have been honored to have been a part of a chain. I just never found my mentor in time. Isadore Singer should have been my advisor.
Here is Herbie on Miles Davis:
If you aren’t lucky enough to find a master, as Herbie says, who can lead you to your own voice, you need to be your own advisor and there are so many problems you‘ll have to overcome because you are always living in your own blind spot.
It’s an inferior road. But it’s possible.
I don’t know that I’ve spoken publicly about it like this. So I’m trying it out. This is real Kung Fu Panda stuff.
It bothers me that Raoul Bott is listed as my supervisor on my Wikipedia entry. He wasn’t.
What he was, was my hero who rescued me. A far more impressive role.
I‘m considering telling the story but I’ve never felt comfortable telling it in public. We oddly resent those who rescue us; I‘ll never know if I could have done it alone. Knowing me, he essentially tricked me into accepting help to spare me the wound to my pride. A great man. 🙏
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@LauraDeming
@MarcusduSautoy
@patrickc
@lishali88
@peterthiel
@thegoodtomchi*
@SamHarrisOrg
@joerogan
@tylercowen
@MsMelChen
James Simons
Jared Diamond
@StephenAtHome
@tferriss
@FutureJurvetson
@naval
Jimmy Kaltreider
@mkonnikova
@pmarca
Etc...
[no family]
Who's the most knowledgeable person you can think of? Think of "knowledgeable" as 2D space: it factors in both horizontal breadth across a wide range of topics and vertical depth within those topics. Who are some people whose knowledge covers an extraordinary amount of 2D space?
Freeman Dyson
@brookedallas
Sydney Coleman
@adamgazz
@balajis
@stephstem
Kevin Harrington
Jordan Greenhall
Daniel Schmachtenberger
@nntaleb
@annakhachiyan
@seanonolennon
@DavidYezzi
Raoul Bott
@DouglasKMurray
@jordanbpeterson
Isadore Singer
R Gomory
R Feynman
And on & on & on...
Isadore Singer & Raoul Bott worked in almost exactly the same area. They collaborated with exactly the same people. They worked in adjacent zip codes (02138 vs 02139). They both had claims to the "greatest topological theorem" of the 20th century.
They never co-authored a paper.
I've known only three minds personally who I'm convinced will be discussed 1000 years from now if humans survive: James Watson, Raoul Bott and Isadore Singer (I met Atiyah & Witten but did not know them).
Is & Raoul however both collaborated on my rescue in Graduate school.
Perhaps with both of these giants now gone it is time to tell my story. I'm not sure. I have never told it publicly in full. But they both are heroic men beyond being great minds.
Had they surmounted their personal difficulties their collaborations could have changed the world.
They worked down the same street. I was at times a ping pong ball they sent back & forth between Building 2 at MIT & Harvard Science Center rm 508 (I think) along a 45 minute walk. I very much respected that they chose not to air any difficulties. They had respect for each other.
One reason I largely kept quiet about my story is respect for both men. They both defended and believed in the system. But, in part they believed in it BECAUSE they were so powerful that they could act as an underground railroad when that system failed:
So, in part, I'm their collaboration. Raoul was not my advisor. He had no real idea what I was doing. But he was far more than that. Is was my shtarker. My ace in the hole. They worked as a team to help me; their failure to talk directly was the main clue I had of anything amiss.
Lastly, there is the matter of my wedding. Is came to our event but I didn't invite Raoul. I did not understand what he had done for me. It is one of the biggest mistakes of my life. When the internet tries to insist to me that I am his student, I want to tell them what happend.
The truth is that I would have been proud to be the student of Raoul Bott. I would have a storied lineage to claim.
The truth is Raoul gave me his name for a self-advised thesis. And like a fool I resented it. Yet how much greater is the man who lends his last name to a Bastard.
In any event. I miss Is very much, but never expected to see him again. And I'm wrestling w the idea that I'm now free to tell my own story after 25yrs of saying very little in public. One of the reasons I don't take kindly to internet warfare is that I have large debts to pay.
The more I subject myself to mindless politics, catfighting, shadowbanning & trolling, the harder it is to fight for others/myself and to pay the debts to the giants who rescued me along my way. I don't know how I'd have done w/o them.
But I needed to grow this voice to do it.
Lastly, I used to have a relationship to a very different @nytimes. Thus when I read Is' obituarty I was shocked to see @julierehmeyer's beautiful tribute including my own quotes on Is. It made me sad to think about how much has been lost. Sadly, those quotes came from long ago.
If you haven't read her piece, I think it is quite moving even though it is no more than a sketch. End.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/12/science/isadore-singer-dead.html
[Not to be crass: but I can usually tell within the 1st minute what is happening to the throttling of my tweets: this is not being widely seen. I'm trying to say something meaningful about a departed friend @jack. Could you please take a personal interest & stop the throttling?!]