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* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pike_Committee Wikipedia on the Pike Committee] | * [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pike_Committee Wikipedia on the Pike Committee] | ||
* [https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/winter98_99/art07.html The CIA themselves on the Pike Committee] | * [https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/winter98_99/art07.html The CIA themselves on the Pike Committee] | ||
== Quotes == | |||
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Eisenhower said: âbeware of the military-industrial complexâ in his final farewell address. Eric believes that this needs to be updated to be aware of what he calls [[Technology Intelligence Media (TIM)|TIM: Technology, Intelligence, and Media]]. | |||
All of our personal information is housed on the servers of a few large tech companies. | |||
The intelligence community has not been vigorously investigated for a very long time. | |||
The media is in some sort of relationship to both of those that we don't understand. | |||
The real concern is that the people who threatened the dominant â[[Gated Institutional Narrative]]â, have to beware of TIM: technology, intelligence, and media working behind the scenes in ways that we don't understand, which is the expectation post [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee Church]/[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pike_Committee Pike] commissions. | |||
I've tried to document the ways in which people have been brought down before. The last time we really cleaned house and the intelligence community was in the mid-seventies with the '''Church & Pike commissions'''. And we learned a ton about [https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-06-07/fbi-los-angeles-times-jean-seberg-50-years these untraceable ways] that a Goliath -- which sometimes is emergent and sometimes conscious -- can take somebody down and you don't realize that the story that got written about you [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtj3GYB3cTA was planted by the government]. And if that sounds crazy to you, you actually have a problem because this is fully documented. There's no conspiracy theory. It's a âconspiracy factâ. What we don't know is what happened since [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee Church]/[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pike_Committee Pike]. | |||
And this is why, for example, with the [https://fas.org/irp/congress/2018_cr/nunes-memo.pdf Nunes memo]. (While I think it's a completely partisan stunt, it's a partisan stunt that may actually have an underlying reality as well.) | |||
The default should be that this is the way the world normally works: that ''wasn't'' an anomaly. And if you believe that that doesn't happen anymore--absolutely--then the burden of proof is on you. | |||
We have to imagine that fundamentally we're all vulnerable to having all of our email in a Gmail account, all of our personal interactions in our Facebook account, what we are doing with direct messages, being read by Twitter engineers. You know, I don't love James O'Keefe, but [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgyPpsX2B0g he seems to have unearthed some stuff at Twitter]. We should be very, very worried. | |||
-'''Eric Weinstein''' on [https://youtu.be/MmXq97do-tQ?t=6533 The Rubin Report @ 1 hr 48 min] | |||
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== On X == | |||
=== 2017 === | |||
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|name=Eric Weinstein | |||
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|username=EricRWeinstein | |||
|content=@OwenBenjamin Rosenstrasse protest</br> | |||
McCollum memo</br> | |||
COINTELPRO, Jean Seberg, Fake News, MSM and '''Church/Pike'''</br> | |||
Witold Pilecki</br> | |||
Johann Trollmann</br> | |||
Powell Memorandum</br> | |||
Operation Mockingbird</br> | |||
Meena Keshwar Kamal | |||
|timestamp=5:31 PM · Dec 11, 2017 | |||
}} | |||
=== 2020 === | |||
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|name=Eric Weinstein | |||
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|username=EricRWeinstein | |||
|content=What have I been telling you all for years? The DISC is real. | |||
Wake the hell up. It is time for '''Church/Pike''' II. What is the hold up? | |||
Republicans: put up or shut up. Stop talking âred-pillingâ. Start an investigation of TIM: Tech-Intelligence-Media. | |||
<nowiki>#</nowiki>BackToChurch #SlipTheDISC | |||
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|content=Damning Hunter Biden documents suddenly vanish | |||
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|timestamp=11:15 PM · Oct 29, 2020 | |||
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|timestamp=11:15 PM · Oct 29, 2020 | |||
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=== 2021 === | |||
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|name=Eric Weinstein | |||
|content=Normally I would think that our interests would be best served by self-investigation of the IC through redoing the '''Church/Pike Committees'''. | |||
But given the hands closing around the throat of free unsurveiled action and open idea exchange, pardoning Assange and Snowden makes sense. | |||
Or more simply put: if our bizarre press and elected representatives refuse to ASK about Jeffrey Epsteinâs links to the Intelligence world, what choice do we have but pardoning those who do the work abdicated by government & the press while they cowardly refuse to do their jobs? | |||
I should also say that the problem isnât as simple as Assange & Snowden. Assume for the moment that they both acted in a principled fashion and did so with great care. Youâd still have the issue that pardons send a signal to less principled actors which could be catastrophic. | |||
We need an intelligence community we can trust to *not* be open. That is the conundrum we face. How do we gain oversight and protect ourselves against a secret world that we want to remain opaque? | |||
This is a giant liability of not being able to rest on a shared national culture. | |||
|timestamp=10:40 PM · Jan 17, 2021 | |||
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== Related Pages == | |||
* [[25: The Construct: Jeffrey Epstein]] | |||
* [[Technology Intelligence Media (TIM)]] | |||
* [[Tech-Carthyism]] | |||
* [[The Distributed Idea Suppression Complex (The DISC)]] | |||
* [[Gated Institutional Narrative (GIN)]] | |||
[[Category:History]] | [[Category:History]] | ||
Revision as of 00:12, 6 October 2025
The Church and Pike Commissions were two parallel committees run in the US House and Senate investigating illegal activities by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and the National Security Agency (NSA) in the 1970's.
References and Links: Church Committee:
Pike Committee:
Quotes
Eisenhower said: âbeware of the military-industrial complexâ in his final farewell address. Eric believes that this needs to be updated to be aware of what he calls TIM: Technology, Intelligence, and Media.
All of our personal information is housed on the servers of a few large tech companies. The intelligence community has not been vigorously investigated for a very long time. The media is in some sort of relationship to both of those that we don't understand. The real concern is that the people who threatened the dominant âGated Institutional Narrativeâ, have to beware of TIM: technology, intelligence, and media working behind the scenes in ways that we don't understand, which is the expectation post Church/Pike commissions.
I've tried to document the ways in which people have been brought down before. The last time we really cleaned house and the intelligence community was in the mid-seventies with the Church & Pike commissions. And we learned a ton about these untraceable ways that a Goliath -- which sometimes is emergent and sometimes conscious -- can take somebody down and you don't realize that the story that got written about you was planted by the government. And if that sounds crazy to you, you actually have a problem because this is fully documented. There's no conspiracy theory. It's a âconspiracy factâ. What we don't know is what happened since Church/Pike.
And this is why, for example, with the Nunes memo. (While I think it's a completely partisan stunt, it's a partisan stunt that may actually have an underlying reality as well.)
The default should be that this is the way the world normally works: that wasn't an anomaly. And if you believe that that doesn't happen anymore--absolutely--then the burden of proof is on you.
We have to imagine that fundamentally we're all vulnerable to having all of our email in a Gmail account, all of our personal interactions in our Facebook account, what we are doing with direct messages, being read by Twitter engineers. You know, I don't love James O'Keefe, but he seems to have unearthed some stuff at Twitter. We should be very, very worried.
-Eric Weinstein on The Rubin Report @ 1 hr 48 min
On X
2017
@OwenBenjamin Rosenstrasse protest
McCollum memo
COINTELPRO, Jean Seberg, Fake News, MSM and Church/Pike
Witold Pilecki
Johann Trollmann
Powell Memorandum
Operation Mockingbird
Meena Keshwar Kamal
2020
What have I been telling you all for years? The DISC is real.
Wake the hell up. It is time for Church/Pike II. What is the hold up?
Republicans: put up or shut up. Stop talking âred-pillingâ. Start an investigation of TIM: Tech-Intelligence-Media.
#BackToChurch #SlipTheDISC
2021
Normally I would think that our interests would be best served by self-investigation of the IC through redoing the Church/Pike Committees.
But given the hands closing around the throat of free unsurveiled action and open idea exchange, pardoning Assange and Snowden makes sense.
Or more simply put: if our bizarre press and elected representatives refuse to ASK about Jeffrey Epsteinâs links to the Intelligence world, what choice do we have but pardoning those who do the work abdicated by government & the press while they cowardly refuse to do their jobs?
I should also say that the problem isnât as simple as Assange & Snowden. Assume for the moment that they both acted in a principled fashion and did so with great care. Youâd still have the issue that pardons send a signal to less principled actors which could be catastrophic.
We need an intelligence community we can trust to *not* be open. That is the conundrum we face. How do we gain oversight and protect ourselves against a secret world that we want to remain opaque?
This is a giant liability of not being able to rest on a shared national culture.

