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|content=The Nakamoto Collective is almost the only forward looking thing I can think of. 11 years ago, I was unable to get our Prime Broker to take seriously that a small Hedge Fund wanted to speculate on some new concept. It was so cumbersome that I gave up and wrote an essay instead... | |||
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I remember the polite discussion about liquidity, clearing, custody, spreads, etc. By the end, they were laughing at us. There is something about *institutional* ridicule that allows those who had just blown up the world to deride others even when the institutions are disgraced. | |||
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Bitcoin at the time felt totally sketchy as a financial instrument as it was tied to contraband. But I didnât see it as money. If I did, I would be unimaginably wealthy if I didnât lose it all to digital theft, accidental loss or spending it . But I am an idiot in these matters. | |||
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The reason I was interested in it was more complex. If Bitcoin was digital gold, and gold was a quantum mechanical wave, then some group had created a: | |||
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Called the blockchain. And money was but one thing it could be. | |||
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Can you imagine. Some group was creating as-if physics inside the network. Bitcoins to me were âwavesâ propagating not in vector bundles, but on networked computers as substrate. | |||
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This was genius. I reasoned at the time that it didnât make sense to me as a medium of exchange. | |||
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And I hated the blockchain. What the Satoshi collective had done was genius. But there should be no ledger. Gold, as a wave, doesnât tell you where it has been. So instead I dreamed of meeting the Satoshis and getting rid of that damn implementation by using digital bundles. | |||
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So, Satoshis if youâre out there, you havenât needed fame or been eager to cash in. That is likely because you get where this is going. Please find me or someone who can explain how AU works as a wave in a bundle. Letâs build a new digital physics around local conservation laws. | |||
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I wrote this 11 years ago. I always thought youâd read it & come find me. You werenât rich then. You were either a government project, a collective or a lone genius. But you inspired me like little in our time. This was my attempt to get you to reach out: | |||
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https://edge.org/response-detail/11861 | |||
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Thank you. For everything. And congratulations. Not on your wealth, but for giving us all the means of escape. For creating something truly new. And for having it up for for so long and proving the naysayers wrong. I have no words. | |||
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What you created wasnât money but hope. đ | |||
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|content=I want to apologize to @EricRWeinstein for my dirty little shitpost. He responded in a typically forthright manner and thatâs why generally I respect him. I wish we lived in a world where my polite suggestion would have gotten him to read Alanâs piece but alas... | |content=I want to apologize to @EricRWeinstein for my dirty little shitpost. He responded in a typically forthright manner and thatâs why generally I respect him. I wish we lived in a world where my polite suggestion would have gotten him to read Alanâs piece but alas... | ||
Revision as of 21:18, 14 September 2025
The rising & falling of the BTC to USD exchange rate appears to have zero positive or negative impact on my estimation of crypto's future.
Why? Because the miracle is the *existence* of the BTCUSD rate nearly 10yrs after the fact, despite posing obvious threats to nation-states.
The Nakamoto Collective is almost the only forward looking thing I can think of. 11 years ago, I was unable to get our Prime Broker to take seriously that a small Hedge Fund wanted to speculate on some new concept. It was so cumbersome that I gave up and wrote an essay instead...
I remember the polite discussion about liquidity, clearing, custody, spreads, etc. By the end, they were laughing at us. There is something about *institutional* ridicule that allows those who had just blown up the world to deride others even when the institutions are disgraced.
Bitcoin at the time felt totally sketchy as a financial instrument as it was tied to contraband. But I didnât see it as money. If I did, I would be unimaginably wealthy if I didnât lose it all to digital theft, accidental loss or spending it . But I am an idiot in these matters.
The reason I was interested in it was more complex. If Bitcoin was digital gold, and gold was a quantum mechanical wave, then some group had created a:
1) Novel
2) Locally enforced
3) Digital
4) Conservation law
Called the blockchain. And money was but one thing it could be.
Can you imagine. Some group was creating as-if physics inside the network. Bitcoins to me were âwavesâ propagating not in vector bundles, but on networked computers as substrate.
This was genius. I reasoned at the time that it didnât make sense to me as a medium of exchange.
And I hated the blockchain. What the Satoshi collective had done was genius. But there should be no ledger. Gold, as a wave, doesnât tell you where it has been. So instead I dreamed of meeting the Satoshis and getting rid of that damn implementation by using digital bundles.
So, Satoshis if youâre out there, you havenât needed fame or been eager to cash in. That is likely because you get where this is going. Please find me or someone who can explain how AU works as a wave in a bundle. Letâs build a new digital physics around local conservation laws.
I wrote this 11 years ago. I always thought youâd read it & come find me. You werenât rich then. You were either a government project, a collective or a lone genius. But you inspired me like little in our time. This was my attempt to get you to reach out:
https://edge.org/response-detail/11861
Thank you. For everything. And congratulations. Not on your wealth, but for giving us all the means of escape. For creating something truly new. And for having it up for for so long and proving the naysayers wrong. I have no words.
What you created wasnât money but hope. đ
On #Bitcoinâs 12th birthday, Satoshi Nakamoto just became the 40th richest person in the world.
$34 billion and counting đ
I really appreciate this change in heart.
So much so that I want to reciprocate: BTC is one of the most important developments of our lives. I read Allenâs piece. Iâd like to engage your community as I take you all very seriously. But I donât think I am who you see me as being.
The important thing is that BTC is a hedge against the manipulation of the world by central banking, economists and corrupt institutions. If you can accept that it is not my religion I can accept that it is without peer among recent inventions: markets ARE the alternative to war.
Markets are the alternative to tyranny and central control. And having a digital gold is essential. I am not trying to save BTC. I am not trying to introduce a new alternative coin. I am worrying about tyranny and the blockchain as ledger. I am worried about what is to come.
Let us imagine that Governments wake up. That they realize that the way to control what that cannot control is violence. In such a situation, I donât want a record of all transfers. Even an anonymous record. Thatâs what I am on about. Perhaps that is misguided. If so: explain.
But telling me that Juan Maldacena is a genius for writing about gauge theory and markets and that I am a mere entertainer who needs to know is place is absurd. Funny actually.
Tell me bitcoiners: where do you think the great Juan Maldacena got this genius idea? Think about it..
Iâve been on your side...w gauge theory...since well before BTC. Early 1990s. The goal is to disintermediate the institutional players to liberate markets to avoid tyranny. So running me down using bullshit to score points is anti-Bitcoin in spirit. Makes us all look weak & dumb.
Anyway, I would love to learn from your community as well as to share what I know. And I am not looking to introduce a âshitcoinâ.
But a request: letâs cut the bs displays? Itâs corroding us all and we now have a common threat in central banking & rigged markets to defeat. đ
I want to apologize to @EricRWeinstein for my dirty little shitpost. He responded in a typically forthright manner and thatâs why generally I respect him. I wish we lived in a world where my polite suggestion would have gotten him to read Alanâs piece but alas...
This is the problem with valuations universally using USD or other managed fiat currencies as Numeraire. Put simply, you have 2 effects. One is the measurement of a rigid ruler (BTC) by a rubber ruler (USD), the second is the fear of rubber rulers leading to demand for rigid one.
If the USD went hyperinflationary this would clearer: we shouldnât be using a fiat currency as our ruler because it is subject to mismanagement by central banking. Visa and MasterCard are tied to a manipulated ruler doing two things: measuring things and driving BTC demand.
The question about Gold is a good one. But, more broadly, should we be synthesizing a numeraire from a basket of fairly Rigid rulers that doesnât include USD? We say âstocks surged across the board todayâ when we really mean âOur centrally managed USD ruler plummeted today.â
We canât use BTC for numeraire if we want to measure it: BTC/BTC will never move. But we can have a basket of precious metals, crypto & even CHF if we want to see USD & BTC moving separately. I just want to move away from having the USD as ruler as it is subject to seigniorage.
To sum up: the big story is that USD/USD is the problem. We put the dollar in our blind spot. It is moving around violently, but it makes everything else that doesnât co-move with it look violent. The fact that so much co-moves w our crazy rubber ruler drives demand for XAU,BTC.
Moral: we should synthesize a new ruler (numeraire) XXX to measure USD/XXX & BTC/XXX separately as institutions tied most directly to USD may strongly co move in ways that disguise the dangers when a (mis)managed USD ultimately becomes the main story. Donât let the Dollar hide.
[Note: I say Ruler because if I say âGaugeâ the online BTC community freaks out and thinks itâs under attack from outsider âshitcoinersâ. Which it isnât. But whatever. Toxic fun. They are convinced they donât speak prose and that BTC & USD arenât gauges. And hey: Number go up...]
WOW. Bitcoin just surpassed the three highest-valued global banking giants by market cap! Will BTC eclipse gold next? https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-is-now-worth-more-than-visa-and-mastercard-combined
(Reporting via @CointelegraphMT)
Coming to appreciate new aspects of my son when I listen to him on other podcasts. I hear things Iâve never heard, even from him.
Itâs eye opening to think about being 15 right now with COVID, WAP, Deep Fakes, Trump, BTC, Woke, Etc, being your childhood:
If Iâm so against bitcoiners, why do I find myself cheering BTC on to get back in there & finish the fight against USD?
âGet back in there!! You gonna take that? From USD?!? Get up and fight dammit. Youâre better than this!â Said a little voice on 2 Negronis after a long day...


