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=== 2020 === {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534124985012224 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=If you want to fight that with me, Iām in. But it requires more subtlety. And for such a simple point, this is getting needlessly tedious. I think Iāve been clear enough that I donāt need to come back to this. Happy to read what you want to say of course. All best, Eric |thread= {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534109600288768 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=I reached some kind of an unexpected impasse with many people I admire now condescending to me. And itās pissing me off. Gad et. al.: Youāve chosen a bad tactic. āHijab is a symbol of oppression.ā is too simplistic. Are you winning hearts and minds with this? No. Youāre losing. |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 |media1=ERW-X-post-1234534109600288768-ESHyOCNXYAM2OOW.jpg }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534111831683072 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=Many of you have picked bad terms for a set of arguments: Ethnonationalism</br> Identity Politics</br> [[Free Speech|Free Speech Absolutism]]</br> Political Correctness</br> Rationality v Bullshit</br> Tribalism Okay. Why arenāt they winning? Because theyāre meretricious framings, way too simplistic and thus losers. |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534112485969920 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=Iām on the same side of many if not all of these points with you but with a massive disagreement in tactics. If you frame one issue like FGM too simplistically youāre going to get hit with the obvious point about male circumscision. Against tribalism? You chase away all cultures. |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534113144528896 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=This saddles many of us w/ a set of āconvenience productsā that donāt really work. Very simple bumper sticker ideas that are incredibly powerful rhetorically...right up until they backfire due to: A) Exceptions invalidating the rule</br> B) Inconsistency in application So they lose. |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534113899470852 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=Hijab is a simple symbol of oppression? What about churches that ask us to cover before entering or online Jewish modesty clothing retailers. Donāt like Political Correctness? Then why do you say āThe N-wordā but joke about other groups. Against āidentity politicsā? In Tibet too? |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534114755137536 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=If you want the spirit of [[Free Speech|free speech absolutism]] you have to admit to some restrictions or you lose [[Free Speech|free speech]] due to the egregious corner cases you will encounter. I donāt want to see swastikas, but I have to admit they crop up in cultural non-Nazi contexts. Thatās reality. |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534115757547520 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=Normally Iāve bitten my tongue for years. I feel like I got here late to a party and everyone had chosen the terms of engagement. But those donāt work because they are too open to charges of bias when their radical simplicity doesnāt capture the counter examples easily produced. |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534116772569088 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=Snakes are tetrapods yet donāt seem to have 4 limbs. Echidna lay eggs but are clearly mammals. These arenāt nitpicks. They point out that the theories āTetrapods are defined by having 4 external limbs.ā Or āMammals are furry and give live birth.ā are simply *unsalvageably* wrong. |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534117749882880 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=You are an evolutionary guy Gad. So presumably I donāt have to tell you You donāt get to define tetrapods by how many limbs most have and then just claim that there are exceptions! Thatās bad theory. Same with Hijab. It *can* be a symbol of oppression. It may *generally* be one!! |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534118756499457 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=But the theory is off. You open yourself up to the obvious line of attack āMy friend Aisha just did X,Y,Z and she loves being a Hijabi.ā Iām thinking of such a person in my past right now. Counter examples are meaningful for good reason. They arenāt an āepsilonā term in any way. |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534119792447488 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=A proper theory of oppression by Islamic veiling and covering must take into account: Christian Covering</br> Jewish Orthodox Modesty-wear</br> Coercion both explicit and implicit</br> Brainwashing vs Projection</br> Niqab vs Headscarves</br> Etc. and no one wants to do it. So it gets oversimplified. |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534120811708416 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=So forgive me. I still think weāre fighting the same BS with veiling & covering as control & subjugation, but we are *tactically* divided, as we are on almost all the terms of art in this. Youāre going to continue to get hounded over the corner cases because of oversimplifying. |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534121830936577 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=And please donāt condesend to me. The great danger with Islam today isnāt the Hijab. Or any of a host or thorny issues. Itās that forms of Islam together with North Korea are among the few potent remaining totalizing forces left in the š. Itās [[Totalizing Ideologies|*totalizing*]] that must be fought. |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534122908864514 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=I would be against [[Totalizing Ideologies|World totalitarian Judaism]] if it existed. But it does not. I was against [[Totalizing Ideologies|imperial totalitarian communism]], but I donāt see much left. If there were [[Totalizing Ideologies|totalitarian Prius owners]] Iād be opposed to them. Iād much rather fight [[Totalizing Ideologies|totalizing beliefs]] than all these proxies. |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1234534123932278786 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=My problems with Islam all stem from its desire to provide way way too many answers and entertain too few questions from outside. Honor killings, FGM, religious message killings, etc are coming from a [[Totalizing Ideologies|totalizing cultural and belief system]]. |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} |timestamp=5:40 PM Ā· Mar 2, 2020 }} {{Tweet |image=Eric profile picture.jpg |nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1323032614962298881 |name=Eric Weinstein |usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein |username=EricRWeinstein |content=No. Tolerance of [[Totalizing Ideologies|totalizing ideology]] is fueling excuses. Madness isnāt made better if it co-travels with religion. Religion isnāt the problem. France isnāt the problem. Madness and excuse making (like this) for [[Totalizing Ideologies|totalizing thinking]] is fueling the problem. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/31/opinion/france-terrorism-muslims.html |media1=ERW-X-post-1323032614962298881.jpg |timestamp=10:42 PM Ā· Nov 1, 2020 }}
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