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'''Sam:''' 00:39:33 Yeah. Well I think people are, you're not going to get me to disagree there that people are impressively split or at least can be. And I think a coherence generally speaking or at least striving for it is good. And I think, living an examined life in part as it is, is struggling with those discoveries of, of incoherence and figuring out how to get this congress of mine, as you call yourself, to actually cohere. | '''Sam:''' 00:39:33 Yeah. Well I think people are, you're not going to get me to disagree there that people are impressively split or at least can be. And I think a coherence generally speaking or at least striving for it is good. And I think, living an examined life in part as it is, is struggling with those discoveries of, of incoherence and figuring out how to get this congress of mine, as you call yourself, to actually cohere. | ||
Eric But you're getting them to cohere. | '''Eric''' But you're getting them to cohere. | ||
'''Sam:''' 00:40:01 Yeah. No. So, but so, but when you're talking about the normal person who, I think it is a frequent phenomenon , to have, you know, normal, the normal range of good intentions to not be a sociopath, to want to help the world to be in philanthropy, for instance, right. To, to, to, to actually to be this, I mean, you're already, if you're devoting your life, if you are a, you know, a smart person who, you know, got a good degree, who could work more or less anywhere, but you decide to work for, for a charity, right? You're already an outlier. You're already somebody who said no to Wall Street or no to Hollywood or no to something, and now you're working for the, you know, the Southern Poverty Law Center or something like, you want to just stop racism, right? So, you're already one of the good guys. | '''Sam:''' 00:40:01 Yeah. No. So, but so, but when you're talking about the normal person who, I think it is a frequent phenomenon , to have, you know, normal, the normal range of good intentions to not be a sociopath, to want to help the world to be in philanthropy, for instance, right. To, to, to, to actually to be this, I mean, you're already, if you're devoting your life, if you are a, you know, a smart person who, you know, got a good degree, who could work more or less anywhere, but you decide to work for, for a charity, right? You're already an outlier. You're already somebody who said no to Wall Street or no to Hollywood or no to something, and now you're working for the, you know, the Southern Poverty Law Center or something like, you want to just stop racism, right? So, you're already one of the good guys. | ||
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'''Eric''' Out pacing, medical. | '''Eric''' Out pacing, medical. | ||
'''Sam''' and, yeah. Yeah. It's, it's amazing. And the fact that you can't discharge your debt in bankruptcy. | '''Sam''' and, yeah. Yeah. It's, it's amazing. And the fact that you can't discharge your debt in bankruptcy. | ||
'''Eric''' It’s perfect. | '''Eric''' It’s perfect. | ||
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'''Sam:''' 00:46:33 But we have a hand in this so we can tune the landscape, right? | '''Sam:''' 00:46:33 But we have a hand in this so we can tune the landscape, right? | ||
'''Eric''' Sometimes I feel like the two of us. Yeah. That's why I call you Sam. What the hell is going on? | '''Eric''' Sometimes I feel like the two of us. Yeah. That's why I call you Sam. What the hell is going on? | ||
''' | '''Sam''' Yes. A relatively small number of people can do it. It's not, it's not, it doesn't take 7 billion people or 8 billion people. No, but like you, you need to convince the top, you know, 3000 people that one way of talking doesn't work. Right. And to, to, to align fitness and truth more faithfully. | ||
'''Eric''' You know, I mean, I'm not used to disagreeing with you this much. | '''Eric''' You know, I mean, I'm not used to disagreeing with you this much. | ||
'''Sam''' Good. That's why I came here with my alter-ego. Yeah. | '''Sam''' Good. That's why I came here with my alter-ego. Yeah. | ||
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''''''Eric''' 00:52:10 I find that that's an interesting heuristic for somebody. | ''''''Eric''' 00:52:10 I find that that's an interesting heuristic for somebody. | ||
Eric That's what that was. That was exactly my point that the Kevin Spacey thing I would say is in the realm of Newtonian mechanics. And then the Jeff Epstein thing is like relativistic quantum field theory. Whatever your Newtonian laws are, we're not in Kansas anymore. | '''Sam''' It's, it's usually, I think it's usually true, right? So, like it works much of the time and then it, it fails, but it fails in a case where you get more information and then you update your view. | ||
'''Eric''' That's what that was. That was exactly my point that the Kevin Spacey thing I would say is in the realm of Newtonian mechanics. And then the Jeff Epstein thing is like relativistic quantum field theory. Whatever your Newtonian laws are, we're not in Kansas anymore. | |||
Sam But I had no, you put me in the same room with him. So, I should probably clarify that. So, I had, I've found myself, but | '''Sam''' But I had no, you put me in the same room with him. So, I should probably clarify that. So, I had, I've found myself, but | ||
Eric We should both apologize. Nothing happened. | '''Eric''' We should both apologize. Nothing happened. | ||
Sam I found myself at a lunch with him at the Ted conference and had no insight into him or what he was up to apart from the fact that he, you know, my sort of creep detector went off, | '''Sam''' I found myself at a lunch with him at the Ted conference and had no insight into him or what he was up to apart from the fact that he, you know, my sort of creep detector went off, | ||
Eric Mine spiked like crazy. | Eric Mine spiked like crazy. | ||