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|content=I would point you to my favorite documents. Gell-Mann’s 1983 Keynote from Shelter Island II is the best of all because it is RIGHT before the GS anomaly cancellation. [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] is not one of the leading 4 problems at the time. Clearly.
You see [[String Theory]] in the address but it is subordinate to N=8 Sugra. As the leading TOE.
I would also point you to [[Ed Witten|Witten’s]] 1986 “Physics and Geometry” address to the ICM. It is clear that the quantum is not even in the top 3 insights of fundamental physics as he sees it. It’s all classical field theory. And that is [[Ed Witten|Ed]].
This [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] focus titrated by energy level is a very late focus. It’s a very [[Ken Wilson]]/[[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] centric view of the [[Standard Model|SM]]. And it seems like you are unaware that this looked very different before the [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] mania that cost us so many decades. And continues.
Martin: it just hasn’t worked out. It’s okay to admit that it was a mistake to make this into [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] tunnel vision. It’s been 40+ years and it’s embarrassing.
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|content=Both A) and B) are objectively true
At Planck scale energies, a deeper theory must consistently describe particle interactions in a dynamic spacetime, reproducing QM and GR in their respective domains of validity
No invented “virus” is required. Only mathematical consistency
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|content=There is a tell when listening to physics folks as to whether they’re captured by the 1984 Quantum Gravity virus.
They either say:
A) “General Relativity has to be reconciled with the Standard Model.”
or
B) “General Relativity has to be reconciled with Quantum Theory.”
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|timestamp=4:33 PM ¡ Oct 31, 2025
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|content=I think you didn’t get it Martin.
The tell is the presentation. (Almost?) Everyone agrees that nature is consistent.
Read the thread. There really is a giant difference.
|timestamp=4:26 PM ¡ Nov 1, 2025
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|content=I think you read something into these statements. Next time you talk to a physicist you suspect to be infected, ask them whether they mean anything other  than what I said above. Do you know anyone  who does?
|timestamp=5:26 PM ¡ Nov 2, 2025
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|content=Martin. I was there when the language changed. In the 1980s. It was swift. And it really didn’t make sense. It was a [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] sales job.
Ask people older than me who didn’t become QG people. Or read the older literature.
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|content=Can you point me to anyone stating that quantum gravity means anything different from the above? That would be helpful
|timestamp=5:43 PM ¡ Nov 2, 2025
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