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'''Cobalt and Baby Blue-on-Blue''' is a metaphorical framework, introduced by Eric Weinstein on [[Joe Rogan Experience 1945 - Eric Weinstein (YouTube Content)|Episode #1945 of the Joe Rogan Experience]] in February, 2023, used to describe interactions between institutional state actors (termed '''Cobalt Blue''') and civilians or non-institutional actors (termed '''Baby Blue''') when the latter inadvertently interfere with, uncover, or challenge covert or sensitive state operations. The term extends and adapts military language—particularly ''Blue-on-Blue'' (friendly fire)—to describe asymmetric encounters between classified power structures and the general public in information or governance domains.
'''Cobalt and Baby Blue-on-Blue''' is a metaphorical framework developed by Eric Weinstein that describes interactions between institutional state actors (termed '''Cobalt Blue''') and civilians or non-institutional actors (termed '''Baby Blue''') when the latter inadvertently interfere with, uncover, or challenge covert or sensitive state operations. The term extends and adapts military language—particularly ''Blue-on-Blue'' (friendly fire)—to describe asymmetric encounters between classified power structures and the general public in information or governance domains.


This framework was popularized in informal discourse to explore epistemic asymmetries, informal censorship, reputational control mechanisms, and the state's response to unsanctioned civilian inquiry into protected operational or narrative domains.
This framework was popularized in informal discourse to explore epistemic asymmetries, informal censorship, reputational control mechanisms, and the state's response to unsanctioned civilian inquiry into protected operational or narrative domains.


== Terminology ==
== Terminology ==
* '''Cobalt Blue''': Symbolizes the hardened core of institutional power—military, intelligence, security, or state actors operating under secrecy or classification protocols.
* '''Cobalt Blue''' (or '''Cobalt'''): Symbolizes the hardened core of institutional power—military, intelligence, security, or state actors operating under secrecy or classification protocols.
* '''Baby Blue''' (or '''Baby'''): Denotes civilians, researchers, journalists, or private actors lacking institutional affiliation or access to classified channels.
* '''Baby Blue''' (or '''Baby'''): Denotes civilians, researchers, government or military personnel without clearance, journalists, or private actors lacking institutional affiliation or access to classified channels.
* '''Blue-on-Blue''': Originally military jargon for friendly fire, here generalized to intra-institutional communication or conflict.
* '''Blue-on-Blue''': Originally military jargon for friendly fire, here generalized to intra-institutional communication or conflict.
* '''Cobalt-on-Baby''': Occurs when a state or institutional actor suppresses, misdirects, or retaliates against a civilian who approaches or uncovers sensitive material.
* '''Cobalt-on-Baby''': Occurs when a state or institutional actor suppresses, misdirects, or retaliates against a civilian who approaches or uncovers sensitive material.
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== Origin ==
== Origin ==
The '''Cobalt and Baby Blue-on-Blue''' framework was shared publicly by Eric Weinstein on [[Joe Rogan Experience 1945 - Eric Weinstein (YouTube Content)|Episode #1945 of the Joe Rogan Experience]] in February, 2023.
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''So this is how they deconflict Blue-on-Blue. But, you see, you and I are also blue. We're having a conversation, and we may be stumbling on something the government doesn't want us to know, which is what happened when Covid maybe spilled out. ... So this is how they play keep-away from the rest of us where they tell each other what they're doing, and the rest of us can't know what's going on. Now, when you say Blue-on-Blue, there's a situation that I want to give a name to because it doesn't have a name, which I'm going to call [[Baby-on-Cobalt]] and '''Cobalt-on-Baby'''. Baby and Cobalt are two forms of blue. Cobalt is government and Baby is like civilians, like you and me. What happens when a civilian stumbles on one of these operations? They're not allowed to use these systems. All right. I called up the South Florida I think Case Explorer, had a half an hour conversation. They were telling me all sorts of stuff, and I said, "I'd like to hear about Jeffrey Epstein". Like, "who's calling?" "I'm a private citizen". "This call will be terminated in five seconds." And then they hung up on me. So I realize, okay, ordinary human beings cannot use these systems. I think a lot of what's going on is that we keep tripping over government operations in the Cobalt sector, but we're Baby Blue. And they don't have any system for figuring out how to get rid of a civilian who stumbles on, like, a drug smuggling operation. I'm like, okay, so Jeffrey Epstein traffics your daughter. What do you do if he's an intelligence asset? You don't know. You just want the creep away from your kid. So you file a complaint or whatever. Now you've got a situation where they don't know what to do because you've got a civilian and you've got some sort of super secret, dark thing that isn't supposed to exist.  
''So this is how they deconflict Blue-on-Blue. But, you see, you and I are also blue. We're having a conversation, and we may be stumbling on something the government doesn't want us to know, which is what happened when Covid maybe spilled out. ... So this is how they play keep-away from the rest of us where they tell each other what they're doing, and the rest of us can't know what's going on. Now, when you say Blue-on-Blue, there's a situation that I want to give a name to because it doesn't have a name, which I'm going to call [[Baby-on-Cobalt]] and '''Cobalt-on-Baby'''. Baby and Cobalt are two forms of blue. Cobalt is government and Baby is like civilians, like you and me. What happens when a civilian stumbles on one of these operations? They're not allowed to use these systems. All right. I called up the South Florida I think Case Explorer, had a half an hour conversation. They were telling me all sorts of stuff, and I said, "I'd like to hear about Jeffrey Epstein". Like, "who's calling?" "I'm a private citizen". "This call will be terminated in five seconds." And then they hung up on me. So I realize, okay, ordinary human beings cannot use these systems. I think a lot of what's going on is that we keep tripping over government operations in the Cobalt sector, but we're Baby Blue. And they don't have any system for figuring out how to get rid of a civilian who stumbles on, like, a drug smuggling operation. I'm like, okay, so Jeffrey Epstein traffics your daughter. What do you do if he's an intelligence asset? You don't know. You just want the creep away from your kid. So you file a complaint or whatever. Now you've got a situation where they don't know what to do because you've got a civilian and you've got some sort of super secret, dark thing that isn't supposed to exist.  
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The model also captures the state's '''lack of clear doctrine''' for reconciling open-society values (e.g., free speech) with the maintenance of covert capabilities—especially when technological diffusion and investigative tools become more accessible to civilians.
The model also captures the state's '''lack of clear doctrine''' for reconciling open-society values (e.g., free speech) with the maintenance of covert capabilities—especially when technological diffusion and investigative tools become more accessible to civilians.
== On X ==
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|content=@keith44beat It has been extended. I learned about its extension into event deconfliction while researching how we keep different branch’s of government from tripping over each other when working in “need to know” operations. I had thought it meant just what you’d think as you said it.
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|content=I have been told that “[[Sources and Methods]]” of the IC must be protected by any means necessary.
That is likely the most parsimonious explanation for why the [[Jeffrey Epstein|Epstein]] case never resolves. Something seems to happen to everything and everyone who could clear it up.
|timestamp=5:10 AM ¡ Dec 19, 2021
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|username=EricRWeinstein
|content=Is this a conspiracy theory?
Well, think about it like this. When the Intelligence Community is doing its job properly it’s supposed to generate conspiracies for the public good. [[Conspiracy Fact|So saying the IC is a conspiracy factory isn’t a conspiracy theory; it’s part of a job description]].
|timestamp=5:10 AM ¡ Dec 19, 2021
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|content=Further, we definitely have an “'''Event Deconfliction'''” system to make sure that local law enforcement &amp; district attorneys don’t bust &amp; prosecute undercover federal agents, screwing up our secret programs. Events are called “[[Blue on Blue]].”
So that isn’t a conspiracy theory either.
|timestamp=5:10 AM ¡ Dec 19, 2021
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|content=Additionally, the use of honey traps, honey pots, and kompromat are all well known as tools of the IC, as is disinformation.
None of that is conspiracy theory either.
The only thing you can object to as [[Responsible Conspiracy Theorizing|irresponsible conspiracy theory]] is the assertion that this may apply here.
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|content=I submit this to you that “This likely is the best explanation of all the improbable things that keep happening which keep us from learning the truth in this case.”
This isn’t remotely tin foil hat territory. This looks like state protection of the [[Sources and Methods]] of the IC.
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|timestamp=5:34 AM ¡ Dec 19, 2021
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== Related Pages ==
== Related Pages ==


* [[Abomination Ratio]]
* [[Anechoic Era or Anechoic media]]
* [[Anti-Interesting]]
* [[Baby-on-Cobalt]]
* [[Baby-on-Cobalt]]
* [[Break-Glass-in-case-of-Emergency People]]
* [https://thebasics.guide/collateral-damage/ Collateral Damage]
* [https://thebasics.guide/collateral-damage/ Collateral Damage]
* [[Communication Security Complex]]
* [[Church and Pike Commissions]]
* [[Conspiracy Fact]]
* [[Cult of the Art of the Possible]]
* [[Deaths of Accountability]]
* [[Deaths of Accountability]]
* [[Digital Wetwork]]
* [[Digital Wetwork]]
* [https://thebasics.guide/dual-use/ Dual-use research]
* [https://thebasics.guide/dual-use/ Dual-use research]
* [[Event Deconfliction]]
* [[Event Deconfliction]]
* [[Fact Burning]]
* [[Fact-Checker]]
* [[Follow the Silence]]
* [[Image Cheapening]]
* [https://thebasics.guide/influence-operation/ Influence Operation]
* [https://thebasics.guide/influence-operation/ Influence Operation]
* [https://thebasics.guide/information-asymmetry/ Information Asymmetry]
* [[Institutional Gaslighting]]
* [[Institutional Gaslighting]]
* [[The Invisible World is First Detected by the Visible World’s Failure to Close]]
* [[Jessupization]]
* [[Jessupization]]
* [[Kayfabrication]]
* [[Law of Gaslighting]]
* [[Law of Gaslighting]]
* [[Managed Reality TM]]
* [[Map the Silences]]
* [[Neo-Debunker]]
* [[Neo-Debunker]]
* [[No-Living-Heroes Theory]]
* [[Nothing Burger]]
* [[Physics got NERPhed]]
* [[Physics got NERPhed]]
* [[Prebunked Malinformation]]
* [[Prebunked Malinformation]]
* [[Responsible Conspiracy Theorizing]]
* [[Responsible Conspiracy Theorizing]]
* [[Seberging]]
* [[Steady Hands]]
* [[The United States of Absolutely Nothing (U.S.A.N.)]]
* [[Tuskegee Principle]]
* [[UAP=SAP]]
* [[Universal Institutional Betrayal]]
* [[Universal Institutional Betrayal]]


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