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=== Table of contents ===
== Transcript ==


=== Transcript ===
===Introduction and Purpose of Long-Form Podcasting===


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Hello, this is Eric with some thoughts before we get to this week's main conversation. What I want to talk about initially this week is the real raison d’ĂȘtre for long form podcasting as I see it. I would like to think that all listeners to this podcast understand the very real danger that cranks and crackpots pose to our society, when they are not recognized as such. The idea of visiting a witch doctor, faith healer or tarot card reader to treat your infection with the coronavirus hopefully sounds insane to you. If it doesn't, this likely isn't the podcast for you, as I'm just going to assume here that such actions are a priori crazy. You are probably fairly able to spot many such charlatans easily from their bizarre behavior patterns, which do not bear a moment's scrutiny. But what about people who have more complex presentations?
Hello, this is Eric with some thoughts before we get to this week's main conversation. What I want to talk about initially this week is the real raison d’ĂȘtre for long form podcasting as I see it. I would like to think that all listeners to this podcast understand the very real danger that cranks and crackpots pose to our society, when they are not recognized as such. The idea of visiting a witch doctor, faith healer or tarot card reader to treat your infection with the coronavirus hopefully sounds insane to you. If it doesn't, this likely isn't the podcast for you, as I'm just going to assume here that such actions are a priori crazy. You are probably fairly able to spot many such charlatans easily from their bizarre behavior patterns, which do not bear a moment's scrutiny. But what about people who have more complex presentations?
===Stephen Wolfram’s Announcement of a Theory of Everything===


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Over the past couple of weeks, I have been asked multiple times every day what I think about Stephen Wolfram’s supposed announcement of A Theory of Everything two weeks ago, on April 14th. I thought perhaps I would take this opportunity to clarify what I do think. The short answer is that I don't think that this is what happened. I think he announced a program in line with previous investigations of his into the properties of cellular automata, where simple computational rules result in output of unexpected intricacy, richness and beauty. If you have ever toured the famous Mandelbrot set, played the late John Conway's Game of Life, studied Go, or even played Cat's Cradle with yarn, you're familiar with this phenomenon of explosions of unexpected structure from minimal assumptions. My interpretation of Wolfram's announcement is that he believes he has a research program that will one day show that the richness of our world can be found to result from a specific computational rule that his team will be able to locate using tools of modern computing. I'm happy to be wrong if this is not what he announced, but that's what I gleaned after a short look at some of the video and materials that he released. It looks to me like a program to search for a final theory, rather than something close to a final theory. The next two questions, however, are often where things become complicated. Question 2 can be phrased as something like, why do you suppose he doesn't simply write a paper and submit it for peer review? And question 3 would be, do you think he's a crank? The short answer to question 2 is, I think, like many other experts, he lost a good deal of faith in the ability and willingness of the community of theoretical physicists to fairly judge in good faith new, idiosyncratic work via an anonymous and unaccountable system which is always ripe for abuse. As for question 3 the simple answer to whether or not he's a crank has been, I'm not going to dignify your ugly question with an answer. Theoretical physics, you see, at its absolute highest levels, has been in some strange state of advanced crankiness for decades. But what does it really mean to say that the mainstream and leadership of the field are “cranky”? Can the mainstream truly be fringe? Wrong, perhaps. But fringe in some sense means both distant from the center and wacky.
Over the past couple of weeks, I have been asked multiple times every day what I think about [https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2020/04/finally-we-may-have-a-path-to-the-fundamental-theory-of-physics-and-its-beautiful/ Stephen Wolfram’s supposed announcement of A Theory of Everything two weeks ago, on April 14th]. I thought perhaps I would take this opportunity to clarify what I do think. The short answer is that I don't think that this is what happened. I think he announced a program in line with previous investigations of his into the properties of cellular automata, where simple computational rules result in output of unexpected intricacy, richness and beauty. If you have ever toured the famous Mandelbrot set, played the late John Conway's Game of Life, studied Go, or even played Cat's Cradle with yarn, you're familiar with this phenomenon of explosions of unexpected structure from minimal assumptions. My interpretation of Wolfram's announcement is that he believes he has a research program that will one day show that the richness of our world can be found to result from a specific computational rule that his team will be able to locate using tools of modern computing. I'm happy to be wrong if this is not what he announced, but that's what I gleaned after a short look at some of the video and materials that he released. It looks to me like a program to search for a final theory, rather than something close to a final theory. The next two questions, however, are often where things become complicated. Question 2 can be phrased as something like, why do you suppose he doesn't simply write a paper and submit it for peer review? And question 3 would be, do you think he's a crank? The short answer to question 2 is, I think, like many other experts, he lost a good deal of faith in the ability and willingness of the community of theoretical physicists to fairly judge in good faith new, idiosyncratic work via an anonymous and unaccountable system which is always ripe for abuse. As for question 3 the simple answer to whether or not he's a crank has been, I'm not going to dignify your ugly question with an answer. Theoretical physics, you see, at its absolute highest levels, has been in some strange state of advanced crankiness for decades. But what does it really mean to say that the mainstream and leadership of the field are “cranky”? Can the mainstream truly be fringe? Wrong, perhaps. But fringe in some sense means both distant from the center and wacky.
 
=== What is a "[[Knarc]]"?===


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Once you have a concept of a dependably crazy bipartisan center ignoring reality to quickly extract as much as possible from the accumulated wealth and credit of civil society before the bills all come due and are sent to the next generation for payment, you realize that if there are any reliable experts left, you would expect them to be straddling the worlds between the central knarcs and the cranks of the fringe. And this gets to the difficult problem we now face, but which we cannot face up to: the coming total collapse of authoritative sources. You will notice that Wikipedia's history of surprisingly high quality comes from an insistence on using reliable, published sources of information as primary material. But don't take it from me. In Wikipedia's own words: “If no reliable sources can be found on the topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it.” In short, when reliable sources cannot be found, communal sense making breaks down and comes to an end. In my lifetime, I have seen the universities, the scientific journals, the papers of record all succumb to the political economy of perverse incentives in a low growth world. Said differently, we now run the risk that if previously reliable published sources, which prided themselves on a goal of objectivity, become captured by political incentives, secondary structures like Wikipedia will begin to degrade and unravel as a result. Thus, we can formally at least understand the logic of the CEO of YouTube when she tells us that she must remove videos that contradict authoritative sources to protect the public health during a pandemic. But when she tells us that the World Health Organization is such an unquestionable source, we must, by the same logic of public health, actually consider whether YouTube should be nationalized, given that the W.H.O. appears to be in thrall to mainland China and unable to acknowledge the existence of Taiwan's efforts to control the virus, while they continue to spout nonsense about the transmission of the virus and PPE.
Once you have a concept of a dependably crazy bipartisan center ignoring reality to quickly extract as much as possible from the accumulated wealth and credit of civil society before the bills all come due and are sent to the next generation for payment, you realize that if there are any reliable experts left, you would expect them to be straddling the worlds between the central knarcs and the cranks of the fringe. And this gets to the difficult problem we now face, but which we cannot face up to: the coming total collapse of authoritative sources. You will notice that Wikipedia's history of surprisingly high quality comes from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia an insistence on using reliable, published sources of information as primary material]. But don't take it from me. In Wikipedia's own words: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability “If no reliable sources can be found on the topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it.”] In short, when reliable sources cannot be found, communal sense making breaks down and comes to an end. In my lifetime, I have seen the universities, the scientific journals, the papers of record all succumb to the political economy of perverse incentives in a low growth world. Said differently, we now run the risk that if previously reliable published sources, which prided themselves on a goal of objectivity, become captured by political incentives, secondary structures like Wikipedia will begin to degrade and unravel as a result. Thus, we can formally at least understand the logic of the CEO of YouTube when she tells us that she must remove videos that contradict authoritative sources to protect the public health during a pandemic. But when she tells us that the World Health Organization is such an unquestionable source, we must, by the same logic of public health, actually consider whether YouTube should be nationalized, given that the W.H.O. appears to be in thrall to mainland China and unable to acknowledge the existence of Taiwan's efforts to control the virus, while they continue to spout nonsense about the transmission of the virus and PPE.


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On the other hand, figuring out how to make it impossible for Google, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and other publishers to exercise editorial control while posing as platforms is an essential conversation that must not be handed off to cranks, trolls and crackpots. The lacuna that is opened up between the cranks of 4Chan and the comparably nutty Knarcs of the great boardrooms, lying and colluding to protect their empires from oversight, clawbacks and regulation, is therefore of utmost importance.
On the other hand, figuring out how to make it impossible for Google, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and other publishers to exercise editorial control while posing as platforms is an essential conversation that must not be handed off to cranks, trolls and crackpots. The lacuna that is opened up between the cranks of 4Chan and the comparably nutty Knarcs of the great boardrooms, lying and colluding to protect their empires from oversight, clawbacks and regulation, is therefore of utmost importance.
===The Role of Long-Form Podcasting in Modern Discourse===


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It is also more willing to take on the perverse incentives destroying the credibility of the platforms, elected representatives, scientists, universities, hospitals and other previously trusted institutions. I wish I could say that this was because of something intrinsic to the medium, but really it is because of this: long-form podcasting is something new. There is still room for growth, and it is still difficult to control. As long as those two features hold true, the sweet spot for sense making is likely to be found in long-form podcasting, which lies in a no-man's land between the cranks and the knarcs. It's not perfect, but it's the best we have at a very difficult moment. I'll be back with some words to introduce today's guest, after these words from our sponsors.
It is also more willing to take on the perverse incentives destroying the credibility of the platforms, elected representatives, scientists, universities, hospitals and other previously trusted institutions. I wish I could say that this was because of something intrinsic to the medium, but really it is because of this: long-form podcasting is something new. There is still room for growth, and it is still difficult to control. As long as those two features hold true, the sweet spot for sense making is likely to be found in long-form podcasting, which lies in a no-man's land between the cranks and the knarcs. It's not perfect, but it's the best we have at a very difficult moment. I'll be back with some words to introduce today's guest, after these words from our sponsors.
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===The Left's Historical Relationship with Appalachia===


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It's hard to get the modern left to properly sing “Which side are you on?” when it taunts, “Will you be a man?” or celebrates our ecologically disastrous reliance on coal in general and coal mining in particular. Yet there are some of us on the left which still think that the minute that the Democratic Party truly abandoned southern Ohio or eastern Kentucky because they can't see their connection to these people of the region, well, then it ceases to be the left or even very American for that matter. In that sense, JD’s obvious love and feel for this region during the largely post-coal era, in some sense, feels like a great opportunity for a spiritual renewal of the left, and a reconnection, as well, with the national interest of the American family under stress. I know, of course, that this opportunity is very unlikely to be taken up by the leadership of the current Democratic Party, but of course it would be if the left actually wanted to win and, furthermore, make winning matter in the best tradition of the thinking left. It would also be therapeutic, in my opinion, for us all to reacquaint ourselves with just how much actual genius there is within our most downtrodden people. So sit back, relax, and I hope that after a few words from our sponsors, you'll enjoy my unbroken conversation with J.D. Vance, the author of the incredibly moving Hillbilly Elegy.
It's hard to get the modern left to properly sing “Which side are you on?” when it taunts, “Will you be a man?” or celebrates our ecologically disastrous reliance on coal in general and coal mining in particular. Yet there are some of us on the left which still think that the minute that the Democratic Party truly abandoned southern Ohio or eastern Kentucky because they can't see their connection to these people of the region, well, then it ceases to be the left or even very American for that matter. In that sense, JD’s obvious love and feel for this region during the largely post-coal era, in some sense, feels like a great opportunity for a spiritual renewal of the left, and a reconnection, as well, with the national interest of the American family under stress. I know, of course, that this opportunity is very unlikely to be taken up by the leadership of the current Democratic Party, but of course it would be if the left actually wanted to win and, furthermore, make winning matter in the best tradition of the thinking left. It would also be therapeutic, in my opinion, for us all to reacquaint ourselves with just how much actual genius there is within our most downtrodden people. So sit back, relax, and I hope that after a few words from our sponsors, you'll enjoy my unbroken conversation with J.D. Vance, the author of the incredibly moving Hillbilly Elegy.
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===J.D. Vance’s Life Story===
 
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Yeah, yeah. You know, I sort of grew up, I'd say, from the time I was born till when I was 13 or 14, kind of oscillating between working class, lower middle class and sort of right on the edge of, of what you would call poor. And then by the time I was in high school, I was living with my grandma full time. My grandfather died and we were, you know, genuinely poor. I think I never really felt hungry. There's sort of ways in which the social safety net definitely worked for us, but we were very, very, you know.
Yeah, yeah. You know, I sort of grew up, I'd say, from the time I was born till when I was 13 or 14, kind of oscillating between working class, lower middle class and sort of right on the edge of, of what you would call poor. And then by the time I was in high school, I was living with my grandma full time. My grandfather died and we were, you know, genuinely poor. I think I never really felt hungry. There's sort of ways in which the social safety net definitely worked for us, but we were very, very, you know—


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Yeah, we were very marginal. Resources were very tight. And the idea that, you know, you could afford things that seemed necessary, like a college education to get ahead in America, just seemed totally out of reach. It's one of the reasons that I joined the military, not the only reason. I was very patriotic family, of my grandma’s six grandchildren, three of them joined, enlisted in the Marine Corps. It was right after September 11th, I think, that I enlisted like three weeks after we invaded Iraq in March of 2003. So it wasn't just sort of that it was my pathway to a better life, but definitely we grew up in a pretty rough environment in a lot of ways. And the fact that I made it is, on the one hand, I think, evidence of the American Dream, but on the other, you know, I don't think you can read too much into one person's story because there is a lot of evidence that that people are struggling in the
Yeah, we were very marginal. Resources were very tight. And the idea that, you know, you could afford things that seemed necessary, like a college education to get ahead in America, just seemed totally out of reach. It's one of the reasons that I joined the military, not the only reason. I was very patriotic family, of my grandma’s six grandchildren, three of them joined, enlisted in the Marine Corps. It was right after September 11th, I think, that I enlisted like three weeks after we invaded Iraq in March of 2003. So it wasn't just sort of that it was my pathway to a better life, but definitely we grew up in a pretty rough environment in a lot of ways. And the fact that I made it is, on the one hand, I think, evidence of the American Dream, but on the other, you know, I don't think you can read too much into one person's story because there is a lot of evidence that that people are struggling in the—


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From a theory perspective.
From a theory perspective.
===Intergenerational Trauma and the American Dream===


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yeah,
Yeah.


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I’m ashamed to say that I don't know more about my wife's family.
I’m ashamed to say that I don't know more about my wife's family.
===Societal Inequality and the Perception of Appalachia===


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Right.
Right.
===Race Relations and the Impact of Sanitized Rhetoric===


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Yes, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So I think there were maybe imperfections and certainly, you know, people said things to others that went too far in some way, I'm sure. But being I think probably our society, especially in elite circles, college educated circles is too much in the direction of terror over offending somebody's sensibilities. And it's really hard to build a real relationship with somebody when that's when that's where you're going.
Yes, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So I think there were maybe imperfections and certainly, you know, people said things to others that went too far in some way, I'm sure. But being I think probably our society, especially in elite circles, college educated circles is too much in the direction of terror over offending somebody's sensibilities. And it's really hard to build a real relationship with somebody when that's when that's where you're going.
===Intimacy and Real Conversations Across Racial and Class Divides===


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Absolutely.
Absolutely.
===The Left’s Shift Away from Its Historical Roots===


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I mean, I don't think racism is what people think it is.
I mean, I don't think racism is what people think it is.
===Cultural Identity, Intergenerational Trauma, and the American Dream===


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That's really interesting.
That's really interesting.
===Globalization, Economic Displacement, and The Precariat===


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And it's—I got rejected from all sorts of tiny schools which said we have no jobs this year. I don't think people who say, “well, you know, of course will be fine. I worry about the rest of the country.”
And it's—I got rejected from all sorts of tiny schools which said we have no jobs this year. I don't think people who say, “well, you know, of course we'll be fine. I worry about the rest of the country.”


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Oh, yeah, but possible there.
Oh, yeah, but possible there.
===[[Embedded Growth Obligations]], [[Sharp Minds vs Sharp Elbows]]===


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I think it has to do with the idea that the generations—first of all, let me say something controversial: I think that the baby boom takes a lot of heat for the Silent Generation. A lot of these problems began with the generation before the baby boomers. They tried to figure out how to save the world from stagnation and low growth. And when they couldn't do it, they started realizing, okay, well, these fake growth stimulus techniques are sufficient to grow certain slices of the pie at the expense of others, if not the entire pie. And the baby boomers just sort of signed on to that and made everything completely insane. The weird thing about the universes is that there was a cultural thing—all of these people go back and forth between different universes with different levels of endowments, right? So here's the weird thing. Choose any one of the great research universities. Without knowing it, which one you chose, it is almost certainly headed by a baby boomer, whereas in the 1970s and early 80s it would have probably a 50% chance of being headed by a Gen-Xer or a Millennial. So they changed the retirement age and you couldn't discriminate on the basis of age. So now almost all of these institutions are headed by baby boomers. Without knowing anything further, I can also say that almost all of them have had the number of administrators on payroll skyrocket above the number of new enrollments. Their tuitions have climbed above medical inflation, the number of old professors getting grants has climbed relative to the number of new professors getting grants. In other words, there's one superarching, overarching story, which is a story of intergenerational warfare. And the funniest part about it was that if you were part of the generation that had declared intergenerational warfare on the Gen-Xers and Millennials, and then now the Gen Z crowd, if anyone mentioned what you were doing, you would accuse them of intergenerational warfare. So my claim is, is that Harvard could afford to buck this trend. They could lead! You know, oddly, I think Ohio State, where you were, decided to lead against the protesters who showed up in the office, you know, and said something to the effect of, we understand that you feel very strongly about your views, and we're going to give you the right to go to jail for them. And you'll notice that there's no administrators, there's no office staff here because they've all gone home, because this is no longer a safe space for them. And by reading them the riot act, Ohio led the way, and Chicago led the way, saying, this is not a safe space. This is an educational institution. There are a tiny number of schools that are bucking this trend. Harvard could have been one of them, but Harvard doesn't believe enough in itself. And this is the thing that really makes me angry, which is there is a pride in believing in the United States. you know what I love about your story is how many American dreams have you lived, sir? There's one about the Marine Corps,
I think it has to do with the idea that the generations—first of all, let me say something controversial: I think that the baby boom takes a lot of heat for the Silent Generation. A lot of these problems began with the generation before the baby boomers. They tried to figure out how to save the world from stagnation and low growth. And when they couldn't do it, they started realizing, okay, well, these fake growth stimulus techniques are sufficient to grow certain slices of the pie at the expense of others, if not the entire pie. And the baby boomers just sort of signed on to that and made everything completely insane. The weird thing about the universes is that there was a cultural thing—all of these people go back and forth between different universes with different levels of endowments, right? So here's the weird thing. Choose any one of the great research universities. Without knowing it, which one you chose, it is almost certainly headed by a baby boomer, whereas in the 1970s and early 80s it would have probably a 50% chance of being headed by a Gen-Xer or a Millennial. So they changed the retirement age and you couldn't discriminate on the basis of age. So now almost all of these institutions are headed by baby boomers. Without knowing anything further, I can also say that almost all of them have had the number of administrators on payroll skyrocket above the number of new enrollments. Their tuitions have climbed above medical inflation, the number of old professors getting grants has climbed relative to the number of new professors getting grants. In other words, there's one superarching, overarching story, which is a story of intergenerational warfare. And the funniest part about it was that if you were part of the generation that had declared intergenerational warfare on the Gen-Xers and Millennials, and then now the Gen Z crowd, if anyone mentioned what you were doing, you would accuse them of intergenerational warfare. So my claim is, is that Harvard could afford to buck this trend. They could lead! You know, oddly, I think Ohio State, where you were, decided to lead against the protesters who showed up in the office, you know, and said something to the effect of, we understand that you feel very strongly about your views, and we're going to give you the right to go to jail for them. And you'll notice that there's no administrators, there's no office staff here because they've all gone home, because this is no longer a safe space for them. And by reading them the riot act, Ohio led the way, and Chicago led the way, saying, this is not a safe space. This is an educational institution. There are a tiny number of schools that are bucking this trend. Harvard could have been one of them, but Harvard doesn't believe enough in itself. And this is the thing that really makes me angry, which is there is a pride in believing in the United States. you know what I love about your story is how many American dreams have you lived, sir? There's one about the Marine Corps—


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'''Eric Weinstein:'''
'''Eric Weinstein:'''
When they can't get access to their own institutions—and this is where I get very revolutionary—my feeling is, it's not your Harvard, it's our Harvard! Let's just break open the doors and let the freaks and the mutants play and get the douchebags out! Right? Chicago is much more about that. And you know, we have to appreciate that it's really important that MIT not focus on well-rounded people. “Well-rounded” is for the second string, that's for the betas. Give us the freaks, the mutants, the poorly adjusted, yearning to breathe free! That's what we need, man!
When they can't get access to their own institutions—and this is where I get very revolutionary—my feeling is, it's not your Harvard, it's our Harvard! Let's just break open the doors and let the freaks and the mutants play and get the douchebags out! Right? Chicago is much more about that. And you know, we have to appreciate that it's really important that MIT not focus on well-rounded people. “Well-rounded” is for the second string, that's for the betas. Give us the freaks, the mutants, the poorly adjusted, yearning to breathe free! That's what we need, man!
===Keep Activism Out of Scientific Research===


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'''JD Vance:'''
'''JD Vance:'''
Sure.
Sure.
===Lasting Societies are about Babies===


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'''Eric Weinstein:'''
'''Eric Weinstein:'''
JD, you're welcome back any time. It's an absolute thrill for you to come and visit. His book is Hillbilly Elegy, soon to be a major motion picture, fingers crossed! You've been through the portal with '''JD Vance:'''. Please subscribe on Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts. And after you're done, head over to YouTube and both subscribe and click the bell icon to make sure that you're notified when our next episode drops. And thanks everybody. Be well.
JD, you're welcome back any time. It's an absolute thrill for you to come and visit. His book is Hillbilly Elegy, soon to be a major motion picture, fingers crossed! You've been through the portal with JD Vance. Please subscribe on Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts. And after you're done, head over to YouTube and both subscribe and click the bell icon to make sure that you're notified when our next episode drops. And thanks everybody. Be well.
 
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