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|content=If you don’t understand what is going on with artificial consensus:
Invite me to officially speak at your University. Say on Peer Review. Or 40 years of Quantum Gravity. Or The Great Moderation. Or Esoteric/Exoteric speech in academe. Or H1B. Etc..
Then watch what happens next.
|timestamp=12:34 PM ¡ Sep 4, 2025
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|content=There are at least 3 gravitational physicists in this photo of an Epstein Dinner in Cambridge in 2004. Yet no String Theorists.
I can easily identify many of these folks from personal interaction and their work, but not quite all.  Some help please?
🙏 https://t.co/lYKWB0Npnj
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|content=Epstein had an unusually specific question or two about gravity for me over a phone call.
I am trying to guess whether whatever constructed Epstein as a fake FX genius knew *more* about gravity than most “quantum gravity” people in String Theory and perhaps considered it a red herring.
I see Guth, Randall and Smolin as non stringy gravitational physicists here. Which is itself unusual for 2004 cambridge.
Q: Am I missing any string people in this photo?
Thx.
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|content=Sure. Wati as well at MIT. Etc.
So @grok, it seems at least a bit odd that Epstein…or whatever was behind Epstein…may have been choosing to avoid the more obvious quantum gravity people in favor of Less-Stringy people. Is this wrong?
It’s not a slam dunk. But I’m just now realizing it fits with an obscure thing he was trying to get at. I know that D. Gross was at least periferally in his orbit. But are there any prominent string theorists closely associated with, or funded by Epstein?
Or was most of his gravity focus string avoiding? I’m trying to invalidate this angle of inquiry, so it would be helpful to find an interest in Strings to contradict the hypothesis.  Thanks.
|timestamp=4:45 PM ¡ Sep 5, 2025
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|content=He should try talking plainly about Inflation.
Or String Theory and Quantum Gravity.
Or Immigration. Terror. Ukraine. Peer Review
Or Mortgage Backed Securities. Epstein.
Furin Cleavage Sites. Selection. Econ 101.
It’s all so much fun.
|timestamp=5:19 PM ¡ Sep 5, 2025
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|content=We picked up this weird Quantum Fetish in the 1980s.
CLAIM: Discoveries in Classical Field theory have been FAR more important historically for our deep understanding of the physical world than Quantum theory. As late as 1986, this wasn’t even that controversial of an observation.
Further, the theory of Geometric Quantization can be interpreted as saying that classical Hamiltonian systems are roughly *Self Quantizing*. Which is huge and rectified a huge oversight.
I am not sure why I am constantly supposed to ooh and aah about all things quantum (“It’s entangled!!!” “The cat is both dead AND alive!” “It goes through both slits!!”) while pretending that our classical field theory is just a low energy effective theory.
This should be reversed in my opinion. Perhaps we aren’t making progress following the Quantum Fetishists with their Quantum Gravity that doesn’t work.
HERETICAL CLAIM: Classical Theory is FAR more important than the failed Quantum Gravity crowd understands. We would be much further ahead if we stopped the quantum fetish. The world *IS* quantum. But it is *also+ likely classical in a way that is equally if not more profound. We should split the field into quantum supremacists and mixed Quantum / Classical people and see if the second group doesn’t outpace the fetishists within the first.
|timestamp=7:26 PM ¡ Sep 5, 2025
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|content=Fascinating exchange gentlemen…so odd.
Why don’t you also bring up the metaplectic correction and point out that I don’t mention that?
Or ordering considerations of classical operators?
That would allow you both to cast even more (unsupported) aspersions.
In truth you are not making a deep point. You are making the quantum supremacy point that we should take classical limits of quantum systems. Not naively quantize classical theories…like we used to do when we were succeeding.
Yet the Standard Model stubbornly remains a classical field theory that got quantized. Mysteriously dodging near certain death on all sides. What are the odds!!
Well, there might be deep classical reasons for that improbable outcome that escape the quantum supremacists. I mean…it’s just possible.
MORAL: Not everyone is an ignorant idiot just because they think your community is 40+ years stalled groupthinking this exact way. I don’t think you are ignorant or stupid. I don’t think you are pseudoscientists. Or grifters. Or any of that. I just think you are wrong in your total approach. That’s just science. The quantum gravity crowd has demanded a victory parade for 40+ years over all other approaches while it fails to launch year after year after year. That is not science. I’m sorry. I don’t make that rule.
MORAL II: You might want to bring up polarization independence and the difficulty of proving (projective) flatness in the polarization discussion, if you want to be even more condescending. You might also laugh to yourselves that the classical hadron and lepton sectors don’t even separately quantize! I don’t know why this doesn’t occur to you. And finally, you might want to assert that I am ignorant of Groenewold–van Hove and have a chuckle about that too. Just a suggestion.
Have fun. And good day, gentlemen. Keep up the high standards and good work.
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'''CPI tampering.'''</br>
'''CPI tampering.'''</br>
Using 9/11 to invade…checks notes…Iraq.</br>
Using 9/11 to invade…checks notes…Iraq.</br>
“The Great Moderation.”</br>
[[Great Moderation|“The Great Moderation.”]]</br>
MBS and the Great Financial Crisis.</br>
MBS and the Great Financial Crisis.</br>
[[Quantum Gravity]].</br>
[[Quantum Gravity]].</br>
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|timestamp=4:59 PM ¡ Sep 7, 2025
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|content=He was interested in what was going on with gravity. And what was going wrong with the duopoly between
String Theory and Loop Quantum Gravity.
Where *neither* work. This is isn't about Morse Theory for robotics.
It's about Loop Quantum Gravity:
https://t.co/dvpTRhVoiS https://t.co/YJSoF40o4B
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|content=It's going to ultimately be about gravity.
He was focused not on robotics, but on gravity. https://t.co/HCqlia5m8Y
|timestamp=3:49 AM ¡ Sep 9, 2025
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|content=I keep trying to explain it, but you aren't listening.
Source: https://t.co/ECXrqxJR7m https://t.co/pAwaulqIwy
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|content=No. I do not. And while I think he was obsessed with gravity, I don’t think he was *personally* following the technical science all that much. Oddly enough.
But I think he was connected to something that was quite advanced, and understood a fair amount more than most gravity researchers caught up in the failed quantum gravity narrative.
|timestamp=4:09 AM ¡ Sep 9, 2025
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|content=@skdh “Playing to reactionaries and angry culture warriors.”
“Your integrity here is at stake.”
“Sabine is a disgusting fraud peddling  propoganda for fascist oligarchs”
These are ghoulish statements ripped out of revolutionary political struggle sessions.
They are anti-scientific.
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|content=Congratulations to:
@thebadstats</br>
@daveexplains</br>
@GurusPod</br>
@IAmTimNguyen / @Google</br>
@Samuel_Gregson</br>
@C_Kavanagh</br>
@ArthurCDent</br>
@kagankans / @WSJ
You just showed the world why Quantum Gravity/StringTheory/M-Theory is [[The Only Game in Town|“The Only Game in Town”]]:
Group Bullying *Kills* Scientific Dissent https://t.co/dLwQk49ZR9
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|content=Now changing my approach to this ghoulish practice of coordinated takedowns.
Sabine is a royal pain in the ass. She has misrepresented my work both casually and severely. I strongly dislike what she often says.
But she’s a critic. PhD ghouls are not.
And science needs critics. https://t.co/DtiIzMr2xA
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|content=Despite having reached exactly opposite conclusions on funding, math &amp; physics, I will fight like hell for her to be part of the system which desperately needs her voice, and for which she trained.
Let’s reinsert @skdh back into the institutions where she can do the most good. https://t.co/SiuGqFVenr
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|content=@slstrm_dsgn She changes her mind Sir. And admits when she knows she is wrong.
|timestamp=5:42 PM ¡ Sep 17, 2025
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|content=@DomBZee @thebadstats @daveexplains @GurusPod @IAmTimNguyen @Google @Samuel_Gregson @C_Kavanagh @ArthurCDent @kagankans @WSJ It’s not a coincidence. You will notice that they have “tells” like inappropriate affect while being cruel.
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|content=Okay. I don't wanna get into any private interactions...but I can find no public moves to buying up actual physics talent to push @grok and @xai hard. Say phenomenologists. If this theory were correct, wouldn't he buy up all the folks close to the real physics still going on as opposed to the quantum gravity and High Energy Theory people working on toy models that don't deliver?
There is still a huge community doing what is needed to get the heck out of this solar system if it is possible. That is what doesn't fit. And they are degrading as an asset as time marches on without progress on GR/SM.
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|content=The freedom of credentialed technical experts to dissent FROM WITHIN THE SYSTEM is at the heart of what is wrong with science, mathematics and medicine. We had healthy dissent within the STEM fields until between 45-55 years ago. Then it all went south.
Look:
Quantum Gravity has been a catastrophe.
Neoclassical Economics has been totally oversold to push bad policy.
COVID origins contained a coverup.
Neo-Darwinism is a wildly speculative and exaggerated extrapolation from the theory of Natural and Sexual selection.
Real Immigration theory does not support our inexplicable mass immigration policies as claimed.
Out CPI is not a COLA as claimed.
Etc. Etc.
And in all cases you lose your standing in the community for saying the obvious. We need to take back the technical fields and make them safe for insiders to dissent without being thrown out.
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|content=The obvious ones:
I) We abandoned GUTs mostly. Why? Because we drew the wrong lesson from SU(5) proton decay.
Right Freeway (Grand Unification)
Wrong Exit (Compact Simple Lie Grps)
II) We screwed up Supersymmetry by basing it on Minkowski space.
Right Freeway (Graded Lie Groups)
Wrong Exit (Spacetime SUSY with fake super partners which dont exist based on supposedlu “internal” auxiliary symmetries)
III) And then the massive massive massive screw up was allowing the totalizing madness of “Quantum Gravity” to take over HEP-TH as if it were “The Only Game In Town” and letting its leadership brainwash the up and coming talent into believing that there was one true path. Totally insane.
Right Freeway: GR and SM must be harmonized.
Wrong Exit: Catastrophic leadership decisions. “Gravity must be quantized and only String Theory and M-Theory can do it. Convert or perish! All mere mortals stand back. We will have this wrapped up in 10 years!! Give us all resources and young talent now.”
|timestamp=8:27 PM ¡ Oct 7, 2025
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