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== On X ==
== On X ==


=== 2024 ===
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|content=When it comes to speech, there is:
|content=We seem to have opened the doors to hell because there is now no basis for ought. And we need must and mustn’t.


Shouldn’t (Bad)</br>
In the absence of religion or nature, there is no strong ought. And society needs ought.
'''Mustn’t''' (Unthinkable)</br>
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'''Can’t''' (Illegal)
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If broadly celebrating political murder of national figures is merely “Shouldn’t”, we will end up with “Can’t”.
The so-called “Naturalistic Fallacy” may be just that. But we should probably rapidly reconsider the wisdom of trying to get rid of it. Or even pointing it out at scale.
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|content=Said differently, '''assume that society may have previously used religion and/or nature to create a coordinated sense of “ought”, “must” and “mustn’t”.'''


'''Free speech is **all** about “Mustn’t”.'''
In the absence of both, there is no coordinating source. And we may need one or the other to coordinate a needed sense of obligation.
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|content=The is–ought problem is almost the same as the naturalistic fallacy.


'''We bet all of society on “Mustn’t”.'''
How do you mean to get rid of it, and why?
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It’s hard to remember how many times I’ve had to say this. It’s like we don’t understand and teach our own culture’s particularly American genius.
=== 2025 ===


Mark this prediction: the First Amendment alone *cannot* save free speech. If you lose the nebulous concept of the unthinkable in common culture you will end up with laws against “Hate Speech” because directed murder and mayhem will normalize and spread like wildfire. You either load the prohibition against the unthinkable, on culture or you will be forced to load it upon the law.  
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|content=Mark this prediction: the First Amendment alone *cannot* save free speech. If you lose the nebulous concept of the unthinkable in common culture you will end up with laws against “Hate Speech” because directed murder and mayhem will normalize and spread like wildfire. You either load the prohibition against the unthinkable, on culture or you will be forced to load it upon the law.  


And, as a proud American Patriot, I want there to be no such thing legally as Hate Speech. At all.  
And, as a proud American Patriot, I want there to be no such thing legally as Hate Speech. At all.  
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Long live American Free Speech.
Long live American Free Speech.
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Shouldn’t (Bad)</br>
[[Can’t vs Mustn’t|Mustn’t]] (Unthinkable)</br>
[[Can’t vs Mustn’t|Can’t]] (Illegal)
If broadly celebrating political murder of national figures is merely “Shouldn’t”, we will end up with “Can’t”.
[[Can’t vs Mustn’t|Free speech is **all** about “Mustn’t”.]]
[[Can’t vs Mustn’t|We bet all of society on “Mustn’t”.]]
It’s hard to remember how many times I’ve had to say this. It’s like we don’t understand and teach our own culture’s particularly American genius.


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|content=Attorney General Pam Bondi: "There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society...We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech."
|content=Attorney General Pam Bondi: "There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society...We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech."
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|content=What the hell is happening to our leadership class? This IS what I meant by [[Can’t vs Mustn’t|“Mustn’t”]] in previous posts in discussion.
 
This isn’t covered by [[Can’t vs Mustn’t|“Can’t”]]. You *are* legally allowed to do this.


The so-called “Naturalistic Fallacy” may be just that. But we should probably rapidly reconsider the wisdom of trying to get rid of it. Or even pointing it out at scale.
And it isn’t covered by “Shoudn’t”. Like “That was bad. He really shouldn’t have said it.”
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|content=“passed away together with his wife, Michelle, reportedly due to the anger he caused others
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Said differently, '''assume that society may have previously used religion and/or nature to create a coordinated sense of “ought”, “must” and “mustn’t”.'''
From a sitting @POTUS.


In the absence of both, there is no coordinating source. And we may need one or the other to coordinate a needed sense of obligation.
I’m not afflicted with TDS. I can call balls & strikes, and this is madness and pure evil. You [[Can’t vs Mustn’t|mustn’t]] EVER do this from *our* Oval Office. Period.
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