https://theportal.wiki/wiki?title=2:_What_Is_The_Portal/lang-fr&feed=atom&action=history 2: What Is The Portal/lang-fr - Revision history 2024-03-28T09:53:31Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.39.1 https://theportal.wiki/index.php?title=2:_What_Is_The_Portal/lang-fr&diff=3790&oldid=prev ZelmarD: /* Le Portail? Qu'est-ce que c'est? */ 2020-04-20T13:15:12Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Le Portail? Qu&#039;est-ce que c&#039;est?</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 13:15, 20 April 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l70">Line 70:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 70:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:10:49] à un plus grand nombre de personnes de participer sans causer de catastrophe écologique. Si l&#039;on considère tous les habitants de l&#039;Inde, de la Chine et du Bangladesh, ces personnes vivent à un niveau économique bien inférieur au nôtre. Si nous devions les élever aux niveaux actuels des Etats-Unis, nous causerions une catastrophe environnementale.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:10:49] à un plus grand nombre de personnes de participer sans causer de catastrophe écologique. Si l&#039;on considère tous les habitants de l&#039;Inde, de la Chine et du Bangladesh, ces personnes vivent à un niveau économique bien inférieur au nôtre. Si nous devions les élever aux niveaux actuels des Etats-Unis, nous causerions une catastrophe environnementale.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:11:10] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Well</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">clearly we are not going to leave these people behind</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">We need them to be full participants in whatever beautiful future we</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">re trying to create</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">And that future has to be ecologically sound because we don</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">t have the ability to despoil the planet as we dream about universal human prosperity. So what are we going to do</del>?</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:11:10] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Clairement</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">il ne s&#039;agit pas d&#039;abandonner ces populations</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Nous avons besoin de leur participatio totale dans le superbe futur que nous essayons de créer, quel qu</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">il soit</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Et ce futur doit être écologiquement viable car nous ne pouvons pas dépouiller la planète alors que nous rêvons de prospérité humaine universelle. Qu</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">allons-nous donc faire</ins>?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:11:28] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Well</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I think that the most irresponsible thing to do is to stop dreaming, to get our dreams to be so small that we&#039;re not embarrassed to share them in </del>public. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I think what we need to do is to start dreaming much more aggressively</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">dream much bigger</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and start dreaming in </del>public <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">with each other</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">harmoniously</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:11:28] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Je pense que l&#039;action la plus irrésponsable est d&#039;arrêter de rêver</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">de rétrécir nos rêves au point de ne pas avoir honte de les partager en </ins>public. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Je pense que nous devons commencer à rêver de manière beacuoup plus agressive</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Rêver beaucoup plus grand</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">et commencer à rêver en </ins>public, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">avec chacun, harmonieusement</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:11:48] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">if we can</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">or have our dreams fight each other</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">but at least start unlocking the potential of human </del>imagination <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and not immediately grounding every new idea in some sort of race to see whether we can invalidate it</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">give it enough of a room to grow</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">You know</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">this is how we used to talk about protecting infant </del>industries <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">before we decided that free trade should always be the rule of the day and that we should have no barriers to protect, uh</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">new ideas in a nursery where they might learn to thrive before testing to see whether they can survive as adults</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:11:48] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">si possible</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ou bien laisser nos rêves se battre entre eux</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">mais enfin révéler le potentiel de l&#039;</ins>imagination <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">humaine</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">et ne pas confiner immédiatement chaque nouvelle idée dans une espèce de course à l&#039;invalidation</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Laissons-leur assez de place pour qu&#039;elles puissent grandir. Vous savez</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">c&#039;est comme ça qu&#039;on parlait de la protection des </ins>industries <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">naissantes avant</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">avant de décider que le libre-échange ne soit la règle absolue et qu&#039;on n&#039;ait plus de barrières pour protéger  les nouvelles idées dans une espèce de pouponnière afin de les laisser apprendre à se développer avant de les tester et de savoir si elles survivront en tant qu&#039;adultes</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:12:23] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">What we</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">re going to do in this program is effectively to declare war</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">War on stasis</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">War on group think</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">War on everything that has enervated our society</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and we&#039;re going to do it because we have the ability now to </del>[[Slipping the DISC|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">compete with the networks</del>]] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">that previously grew up to distribute whatever it was that was portrayed as sense-making</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:12:23] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ce que nous allons faire dans cette émission, c</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">est effectivement déclarer la guerre</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">La guerre contre la stagnation</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">La guerre contre la pensée unique</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">La guerre contre toutes les choses qui énervent notre société</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">et nous allons le faire parce que nous pouvons  maintenant </ins>[[Slipping the DISC|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">rivaliser avec les réseaux</ins>]] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">qui ont été développés pour distribuer ce qui était établi comme &quot;la vérité&quot;</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:12:44] You can tell that there&#039;s something wrong with both CNN and Fox. If you&#039;re reading the New York times carefully, you can tell that the narrative arcs in the daily newspaper clearly have to have been thought out to cover many days in long before the facts are known. Somehow we are living in somebody else&#039;s reality.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:12:44] You can tell that there&#039;s something wrong with both CNN and Fox. If you&#039;re reading the New York times carefully, you can tell that the narrative arcs in the daily newspaper clearly have to have been thought out to cover many days in long before the facts are known. Somehow we are living in somebody else&#039;s reality.</div></td></tr> </table> ZelmarD https://theportal.wiki/index.php?title=2:_What_Is_The_Portal/lang-fr&diff=3789&oldid=prev ZelmarD: /* Le Portail? Qu'est-ce que c'est? */ 2020-04-20T12:39:47Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Le Portail? Qu&#039;est-ce que c&#039;est?</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 12:39, 20 April 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l64">Line 64:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 64:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:09:47] et qu&#039;on peut apprendre à se fier à une théorie, même si elle n&#039;est pas en accord avec une expérimentation, tant qu&#039;elle possède une certaine cohérence intellectuelle. Pourtant, combien de fois est-ce que les gens sont réorientés vers l&quot;article de Dirac de 1963? D&#039;ailleurs, on pourrait aussi se référer à Jim Watson, qui nous a dit que pour faire de grandes avancées, il faut être irresponsable.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:09:47] et qu&#039;on peut apprendre à se fier à une théorie, même si elle n&#039;est pas en accord avec une expérimentation, tant qu&#039;elle possède une certaine cohérence intellectuelle. Pourtant, combien de fois est-ce que les gens sont réorientés vers l&quot;article de Dirac de 1963? D&#039;ailleurs, on pourrait aussi se référer à Jim Watson, qui nous a dit que pour faire de grandes avancées, il faut être irresponsable.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:10:09] C&#039;est une caractéristique très bizarre du monde d&#039;aujourd&#039;hui. Parmi nos acteurs majeurs, nombreux son ceux qui ne semblent pas suivre [[Distributed Idea Suppression Complex|les règles qui ont été établies pour tout le monde]]. La question est la suivante: si nous sommes dans une situation dans laquelle nous avons déclenché un pouvoir destructeur incroyable comme nous l&#039;avons fait avec la bombe H et avec le potentiel déverrouillage de la cellule</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:10:09] C&#039;est une caractéristique très bizarre du monde d&#039;aujourd&#039;hui. Parmi nos acteurs majeurs, nombreux son ceux qui ne semblent pas suivre [[Distributed Idea Suppression Complex|les règles qui ont été établies pour tout le monde]]. La question est la suivante: si nous sommes dans une situation dans laquelle nous avons déclenché un pouvoir destructeur incroyable comme nous l&#039;avons fait avec la bombe H et avec le potentiel déverrouillage de la cellule.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">**********************************************************************************</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[00:10:28] why is it that we are so incredibly timid about what it is that we might do next? We have all the destructive power that we need already at our fingertips</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">What we don&#039;t have is the ability to escape our fate. In fact, what we need is to find The Portal, to find a way out, to find new economic vistas that will allow far</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:10:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">49</del>] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">larger numbers of people to participate without causing an ecological disaster. If you take all the people</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">let</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">s say</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">in India</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">China</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and Bangladesh</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">what have you</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">who are leading lives at a far lower economic level than we are</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">if you were to elevate them to our current level as we have in the United States</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">you would be causing an ecological disaster</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:10:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">28</ins>] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pourquoi sommes-nous si timorés vis-à-vis de ce que nous sommes capables de faire à l&#039;avenir? Nous avons déjà tout le pouvoir destructeur possible au bout des doigts</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ce que nous n</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">avons pas</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">c&#039;est la possibilité de fuir notre destin. D&#039;ailleurs</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">nous devons trouver le Portail</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">une issue de secours</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">afin de trouver de nouvelles perspectives qui nous permettront </ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[00:10:49] à un plus grand nombre de personnes de participer sans causer de catastrophe écologique. Si l&#039;on considère tous les habitants de l&#039;Inde</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">de la Chine et du Bangladesh</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ces personnes vivent à un niveau économique bien inférieur au nôtre. Si nous devions les élever aux niveaux actuels des Etats-Unis</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">nous causerions une catastrophe environnementale</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:11:10] Well, clearly we are not going to leave these people behind. We need them to be full participants in whatever beautiful future we&#039;re trying to create. And that future has to be ecologically sound because we don&#039;t have the ability to despoil the planet as we dream about universal human prosperity. So what are we going to do?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:11:10] Well, clearly we are not going to leave these people behind. We need them to be full participants in whatever beautiful future we&#039;re trying to create. And that future has to be ecologically sound because we don&#039;t have the ability to despoil the planet as we dream about universal human prosperity. So what are we going to do?</div></td></tr> </table> ZelmarD https://theportal.wiki/index.php?title=2:_What_Is_The_Portal/lang-fr&diff=3736&oldid=prev ZelmarD: /* Le Portail? Qu'est-ce que c'est? */ 2020-04-19T20:00:23Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Le Portail? Qu&#039;est-ce que c&#039;est?</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:00, 19 April 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l62">Line 62:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 62:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:09:19] Mais au lieu de ça, nous avons développé une culture dans laquelle dès qu&#039;on propose quelque chose, on nous dit que la condition scientifique sine qua non implique une concordance entre théorie et expérimentation. Ce qui est entièrement faux. D&#039;ailleurs, si vous relisez le superbe article de Paul Dirac paru dans la revue &#039;&#039;Scientific American&#039;&#039; au début des année 60, il y dit qu&#039;il est plus important de posséder la beauté mathématique que la théorie physique</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:09:19] Mais au lieu de ça, nous avons développé une culture dans laquelle dès qu&#039;on propose quelque chose, on nous dit que la condition scientifique sine qua non implique une concordance entre théorie et expérimentation. Ce qui est entièrement faux. D&#039;ailleurs, si vous relisez le superbe article de Paul Dirac paru dans la revue &#039;&#039;Scientific American&#039;&#039; au début des année 60, il y dit qu&#039;il est plus important de posséder la beauté mathématique que la théorie physique</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:09:47] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and that we learn to trust a theory</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">even when it doesn</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">t agree with experiment</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">if it has a kind of intellectual coherence to it</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">But how often are people pointed to something like </del>Dirac<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&#039;s </del>1963 <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">paper</del>? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">In fact</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">you could look to </del>Jim Watson, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">who&#039;s told us that in order to make great advances</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">we have to be irresponsible</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:09:47] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">et qu&#039;on peut apprendre à se fier à une théorie</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">même si elle n</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">est pas en accord avec une expérimentation</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">tant qu&#039;elle possède une certaine cohérence intellectuelle</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pourtant, combien de fois est-ce que les gens sont réorientés vers l&quot;article de </ins>Dirac <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">de </ins>1963? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">D&#039;ailleurs</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">on pourrait aussi se référer à </ins>Jim Watson, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">qui nous a dit que pour faire de grandes avancées</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">il faut être irresponsable</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[00:10:09] Now, this is a very odd feature of the world. Many of our top people do not seem to play by [[Distributed Idea Suppression Complex|the rules that have been set for everyone else]]. And the question is, if we are in a situation in which we have unleashed such incredible destructive power as we did with the hydrogen bomb, and in potentially unlocking the cell,</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[00:10:09] C'est une caractéristique très bizarre du monde d'aujourd'hui. Parmi nos acteurs majeurs, nombreux son ceux qui ne semblent pas suivre [[Distributed Idea Suppression Complex|les règles qui ont été établies pour tout le monde]]. La question est la suivante: si nous sommes dans une situation dans laquelle nous avons déclenché un pouvoir destructeur incroyable comme nous l'avons fait avec la bombe H et avec le potentiel déverrouillage de la cellule</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">**********************************************************************************</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:10:28] why is it that we are so incredibly timid about what it is that we might do next? We have all the destructive power that we need already at our fingertips. What we don&#039;t have is the ability to escape our fate. In fact, what we need is to find The Portal, to find a way out, to find new economic vistas that will allow far</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:10:28] why is it that we are so incredibly timid about what it is that we might do next? We have all the destructive power that we need already at our fingertips. What we don&#039;t have is the ability to escape our fate. In fact, what we need is to find The Portal, to find a way out, to find new economic vistas that will allow far</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> </table> ZelmarD https://theportal.wiki/index.php?title=2:_What_Is_The_Portal/lang-fr&diff=3733&oldid=prev ZelmarD: /* Le Portail? Qu'est-ce que c'est? */ 2020-04-19T19:43:03Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Le Portail? Qu&#039;est-ce que c&#039;est?</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 19:43, 19 April 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l58">Line 58:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 58:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:08:39] Pourtant il n&#039;y a jamais eu d&#039;évaluation par les pairs. Pourquoi? parce qu&#039;à l&#039;époque, le travail d&#039;un éditeur consistait à décider si les contenus soumis étaient dignes d&#039;être publiés. Et d&#039;ailleurs, l&#039;éditeur à l&#039;époque, si je me rappelle correctement, avait dit que toute personne qui lirait ce papier serait tellement bouleversée par son contenu qu&#039;il ne pouvait prendre le risque de le renvoyer dans un quelconque processus de révision.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:08:39] Pourtant il n&#039;y a jamais eu d&#039;évaluation par les pairs. Pourquoi? parce qu&#039;à l&#039;époque, le travail d&#039;un éditeur consistait à décider si les contenus soumis étaient dignes d&#039;être publiés. Et d&#039;ailleurs, l&#039;éditeur à l&#039;époque, si je me rappelle correctement, avait dit que toute personne qui lirait ce papier serait tellement bouleversée par son contenu qu&#039;il ne pouvait prendre le risque de le renvoyer dans un quelconque processus de révision.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:08:56] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Well, if that</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">s true</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">let&#039;s say peer review isn</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">t really the centerpiece of our </del>science. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Is the scientific method the centerpiece of our </del>science? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Well</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">at some level</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">sure</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">it</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">s like proof checking</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">but </del>a <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">lot of the work that we do in science has been incredibly imaginative</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">And you might even say it</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">s been irresponsible until it comes into final form and can be reconciled with experiment</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:08:56] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Si c</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">est vrai</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">supposons que l</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">évaluation par les pairs ne soit pas vraiment le coeur de notre </ins>science. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Est-ce que la méthode scientifique est le centre de notre </ins>science? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Eh bien</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">dans une certaine mesure</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">oui</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">c</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">est un peu comme une correction</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">mais l&#039;essentiel du travail que nous avons accompli dans le domaine scientifique </ins>a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">été incroyablement créatif</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Voire irresponsable, jusqu&#039;au moment où la forme finale est atteinte, et réconciliée avec l</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">expérimentation</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:09:19] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">But instead</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">we</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ve developed a culture in which immediately upon proposing something</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">we are told that the </del>sine qua non <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">of science is that there be an agreement between theory and experiment</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Well, this is wholly untrue</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">In fact</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">if you go back to </del>Paul Dirac&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">s great </del>Scientific American <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">article in the early sixties</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">he says that it is much more </del>important <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">than a physical theory have mathematical beauty</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:09:19] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Mais au lieu de ça</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">nous avons développé une culture dans laquelle dès qu</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">on propose quelque chose</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">on nous dit que la condition scientifique </ins>sine qua non <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">implique une concordance entre théorie et expérimentation</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ce qui est entièrement faux</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">D&#039;ailleurs</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">si vous relisez le superbe article de </ins>Paul Dirac <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">paru dans la revue &#039;</ins>&#039;Scientific American<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&#039;&#039; au début des année 60</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">il y dit qu&#039;il est plus </ins>important <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">de posséder la beauté mathématique que la théorie physique</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:09:47] and that we learn to trust a theory, even when it doesn&#039;t agree with experiment, if it has a kind of intellectual coherence to it. But how often are people pointed to something like Dirac&#039;s 1963 paper? In fact, you could look to Jim Watson, who&#039;s told us that in order to make great advances, we have to be irresponsible.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:09:47] and that we learn to trust a theory, even when it doesn&#039;t agree with experiment, if it has a kind of intellectual coherence to it. But how often are people pointed to something like Dirac&#039;s 1963 paper? In fact, you could look to Jim Watson, who&#039;s told us that in order to make great advances, we have to be irresponsible.</div></td></tr> </table> ZelmarD https://theportal.wiki/index.php?title=2:_What_Is_The_Portal/lang-fr&diff=3730&oldid=prev ZelmarD: /* Le Portail? Qu'est-ce que c'est? */ 2020-04-19T19:28:38Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Le Portail? Qu&#039;est-ce que c&#039;est?</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 19:28, 19 April 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l56">Line 56:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 56:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:08:16] Ne devrions-nous pas nous baser sur les meilleurs systèmes à disposition? Par exemple, [[Peer Review|l&#039;évaluation par les pairs]], n&#039;est-ce pas &#039;&#039;la&#039;&#039; référence? Eh bien, je dirais que non. L&#039;évaluation par les pairs est une invention relativement récente, et je dirais même que c&#039;est une intrusion au sein des sciences dures. En 1953, quand le mystère de la double hélice fut élucidé par Watson et Crick, ils sont soumis leurs trouvailles à la revue &#039;&#039;Nature&#039;&#039;.  </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:08:16] Ne devrions-nous pas nous baser sur les meilleurs systèmes à disposition? Par exemple, [[Peer Review|l&#039;évaluation par les pairs]], n&#039;est-ce pas &#039;&#039;la&#039;&#039; référence? Eh bien, je dirais que non. L&#039;évaluation par les pairs est une invention relativement récente, et je dirais même que c&#039;est une intrusion au sein des sciences dures. En 1953, quand le mystère de la double hélice fut élucidé par Watson et Crick, ils sont soumis leurs trouvailles à la revue &#039;&#039;Nature&#039;&#039;.  </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:08:39] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">But it was never </del>a <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">peer reviewed</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Why</del>? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Because an editor</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">s job was to figure out whether it was worthy of publication</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">And in fact</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the editor at the time, if I recall correctly</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">said that anybody who saw this paper would be so influenced by it</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">that he couldn</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">t take the risk sending it out for any kind of review</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:08:39] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pourtant il n&#039;y </ins>a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">jamais eu d&#039;évaluation par les pairs</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pourquoi</ins>? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">parce qu&#039;à l&#039;époque, le travail d&#039;un éditeur consistait à décider si les contenus soumis étaient dignes d</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">être publiés</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Et d&#039;ailleurs</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">l&#039;éditeur à l&#039;époque</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">si je me rappelle correctement</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">avait dit que toute personne qui lirait ce papier serait tellement bouleversée par son contenu qu</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">il ne pouvait prendre le risque de le renvoyer dans un quelconque processus de révision</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:08:56] Well, if that&#039;s true, let&#039;s say peer review isn&#039;t really the centerpiece of our science. Is the scientific method the centerpiece of our science? Well, at some level, sure, it&#039;s like proof checking, but a lot of the work that we do in science has been incredibly imaginative. And you might even say it&#039;s been irresponsible until it comes into final form and can be reconciled with experiment.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:08:56] Well, if that&#039;s true, let&#039;s say peer review isn&#039;t really the centerpiece of our science. Is the scientific method the centerpiece of our science? Well, at some level, sure, it&#039;s like proof checking, but a lot of the work that we do in science has been incredibly imaginative. And you might even say it&#039;s been irresponsible until it comes into final form and can be reconciled with experiment.</div></td></tr> </table> ZelmarD https://theportal.wiki/index.php?title=2:_What_Is_The_Portal/lang-fr&diff=3729&oldid=prev ZelmarD: /* Le Portail? Qu'est-ce que c'est? */ 2020-04-19T19:23:26Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Le Portail? Qu&#039;est-ce que c&#039;est?</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 19:23, 19 April 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l52">Line 52:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 52:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:33] Est-ce que nous allons vivre une vie, ici et maintenant, nous permettant un style de vie échappatoire comme dans Star Trek, ou même Star Wars, des sagas néées dans les années 60 et 70? Je pense qu&#039;en général, la plupart d&#039;entre nous a compris que ces rêves sont restés des rêves pendant tellement longtemps qu&#039;ils ont été relégués au monde des enfants.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:33] Est-ce que nous allons vivre une vie, ici et maintenant, nous permettant un style de vie échappatoire comme dans Star Trek, ou même Star Wars, des sagas néées dans les années 60 et 70? Je pense qu&#039;en général, la plupart d&#039;entre nous a compris que ces rêves sont restés des rêves pendant tellement longtemps qu&#039;ils ont été relégués au monde des enfants.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:55] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Perhaps very dim people believe these things</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">What I</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">m interested in is trying to get the smartest</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">most dynamic and most agentic people in our society once again talking to each other and ignoring the people who are most focused on dampening all of our enthusiasm. Now perhaps</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">you think</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">look</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">this doesn</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">t sound very scientific</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:55] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Il est possible que des personnes simples d&#039;esprit croient ces choses</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ce qui m</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">intéresse</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">c&#039;est que les personnes les plus intelligentes</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">dynamiques et agentiques recommencent à se parler</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">tout en ignorant les gens qui ne veulent que freiner notre enthousiasme. Là</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">peut-être que vous vous dites que tout ça n&#039;a pas l</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">air très &quot;scientifique&quot;</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:08:16] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Shouldn&#039;t we be relying on the best systems we have</del>? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">For example</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">isn&#039;t </del>[[Peer Review|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">peer reviewed science</del>]] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the gold standard</del>? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Well</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I would say no</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Peer review is a relatively recent </del>invention, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and I would even say an </del>intrusion <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">into the hard </del>sciences. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">In </del>1953 <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">when the </del>double <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">helix was elucidated by </del>Watson <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and </del>Crick, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">they submitted it to the journal </del>Nature.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:08:16] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ne devrions-nous pas nous baser sur les meilleurs systèmes à disposition</ins>? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Par exemple</ins>, [[Peer Review|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">l&#039;évaluation par les pairs</ins>]]<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, n&#039;est-ce pas &#039;&#039;la&#039;&#039; référence</ins>? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Eh bien</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">je dirais que non</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">L&#039;évaluation par les pairs est une </ins>invention <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">relativement récente</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">et je dirais même que c&#039;est une </ins>intrusion <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">au sein des </ins>sciences <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">dures</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">En </ins>1953<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, quand le mystère de la </ins>double <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">hélice fut élucidé par </ins>Watson <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">et </ins>Crick, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ils sont soumis leurs trouvailles à la revue &#039;&#039;</ins>Nature<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&#039;&#039;</ins>.  </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:08:39] But it was never a peer reviewed. Why? Because an editor&#039;s job was to figure out whether it was worthy of publication. And in fact, the editor at the time, if I recall correctly, said that anybody who saw this paper would be so influenced by it, that he couldn&#039;t take the risk sending it out for any kind of review.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:08:39] But it was never a peer reviewed. Why? Because an editor&#039;s job was to figure out whether it was worthy of publication. And in fact, the editor at the time, if I recall correctly, said that anybody who saw this paper would be so influenced by it, that he couldn&#039;t take the risk sending it out for any kind of review.</div></td></tr> </table> ZelmarD https://theportal.wiki/index.php?title=2:_What_Is_The_Portal/lang-fr&diff=3727&oldid=prev ZelmarD: /* Le Portail? Qu'est-ce que c'est? */ 2020-04-19T19:06:03Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Le Portail? Qu&#039;est-ce que c&#039;est?</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 19:06, 19 April 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l50">Line 50:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 50:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:10] Ne pensions-nous pas que la fusion nucléaire était au coin de la rue? Si vous pensez à toutes les choses qu&#039;on pourrait faire. Nous avons appris dans la plupart de ces domaines que continuer d&#039;espérer n&#039;est pas une attitude mature, tout comme continuer d&#039;espérer pouvoir construire un future très différent du présent. Oui, les choses vont s&#039;améliorier un peu, mais est-ce qu&#039;elles vont vraiment dramatiquement s&#039;améliorer?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:10] Ne pensions-nous pas que la fusion nucléaire était au coin de la rue? Si vous pensez à toutes les choses qu&#039;on pourrait faire. Nous avons appris dans la plupart de ces domaines que continuer d&#039;espérer n&#039;est pas une attitude mature, tout comme continuer d&#039;espérer pouvoir construire un future très différent du présent. Oui, les choses vont s&#039;améliorier un peu, mais est-ce qu&#039;elles vont vraiment dramatiquement s&#039;améliorer?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:33] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Are we going to be leading a life in our here</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">in our now that would allow a kind of escapist lifestyle that we saw on </del>Star Trek, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">or even in </del>Star Wars, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">which came out in the sixties and seventies respectively</del>? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I think that in general</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">most of us have realized that these dreams have remained dreams for so long that we</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ve consigned them to the world of children</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:33] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Est-ce que nous allons vivre une vie, ici et maintenant</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">nous permettant un style de vie échappatoire comme dans </ins>Star Trek, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ou même </ins>Star Wars, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">des sagas néées dans les années 60 et 70</ins>? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Je pense qu&#039;en général</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">la plupart d&#039;entre nous a compris que ces rêves sont restés des rêves pendant tellement longtemps qu</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ils ont été relégués au monde des enfants</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:55] Perhaps very dim people believe these things. What I&#039;m interested in is trying to get the smartest, most dynamic and most agentic people in our society once again talking to each other and ignoring the people who are most focused on dampening all of our enthusiasm. Now perhaps, you think, look, this doesn&#039;t sound very scientific.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:55] Perhaps very dim people believe these things. What I&#039;m interested in is trying to get the smartest, most dynamic and most agentic people in our society once again talking to each other and ignoring the people who are most focused on dampening all of our enthusiasm. Now perhaps, you think, look, this doesn&#039;t sound very scientific.</div></td></tr> </table> ZelmarD https://theportal.wiki/index.php?title=2:_What_Is_The_Portal/lang-fr&diff=3726&oldid=prev ZelmarD: /* Le Portail? Qu'est-ce que c'est? */ 2020-04-19T19:01:18Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Le Portail? Qu&#039;est-ce que c&#039;est?</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 19:01, 19 April 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l48">Line 48:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 48:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:06:51] Je pense que ce qui compte, c&#039;est combien nous étions enthousiastes avant. A quoi nous attendions-nous? Je pense que nous pensions que nous allions pouvoir soigner toutes les maladies. Ne serait-ce pas fantastique que de ne perdre personne des suites d&#039;un cancer, puisque nous avions déclaré la guerre au cancer au début des années 70? Et qu&#039;est-ce que nous espérions concernant l&#039;énergie?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:06:51] Je pense que ce qui compte, c&#039;est combien nous étions enthousiastes avant. A quoi nous attendions-nous? Je pense que nous pensions que nous allions pouvoir soigner toutes les maladies. Ne serait-ce pas fantastique que de ne perdre personne des suites d&#039;un cancer, puisque nous avions déclaré la guerre au cancer au début des années 70? Et qu&#039;est-ce que nous espérions concernant l&#039;énergie?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:10] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Didn&#039;t we think that </del>fusion <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">was around the corner</del>? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">If you think about all of the things that we could be doing, we</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ve learned in most of these areas that it is no longer </del>mature <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">to hope</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">to imagine that somehow we are going to be able to make the </del>future <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">very different than the present</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Yes</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">things will get a little bit better</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">but are they going to get dramatically better</del>?</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:10] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ne pensions-nous pas que la </ins>fusion <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">nucléaire était au coin de la rue</ins>? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Si vous pensez à toutes les choses qu&#039;on pourrait faire. Nous avons appris dans la plupart de ces domaines que continuer d&#039;espérer n</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">est pas une attitude </ins>mature, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">tout comme continuer d&#039;espérer pouvoir construire un </ins>future <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">très différent du présent</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Oui</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">les choses vont s&#039;améliorier un peu</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">mais est-ce qu&#039;elles vont vraiment dramatiquement s&#039;améliorer</ins>?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:33] Are we going to be leading a life in our here, in our now that would allow a kind of escapist lifestyle that we saw on Star Trek, or even in Star Wars, which came out in the sixties and seventies respectively? I think that in general, most of us have realized that these dreams have remained dreams for so long that we&#039;ve consigned them to the world of children.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:33] Are we going to be leading a life in our here, in our now that would allow a kind of escapist lifestyle that we saw on Star Trek, or even in Star Wars, which came out in the sixties and seventies respectively? I think that in general, most of us have realized that these dreams have remained dreams for so long that we&#039;ve consigned them to the world of children.</div></td></tr> </table> ZelmarD https://theportal.wiki/index.php?title=2:_What_Is_The_Portal/lang-fr&diff=3725&oldid=prev ZelmarD: /* Le Portail? Qu'est-ce que c'est? */ 2020-04-19T18:55:21Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Le Portail? Qu&#039;est-ce que c&#039;est?</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:55, 19 April 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l46">Line 46:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 46:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:06:26] Il fut un temps où réussir à émettre des appels longue distance intercontinentaux était vraiment cool, mais c&#039;est maintenant monnaie courante. De la même manière, si auparavant nous étions enthousiastes concernant la sortie du nouvel iPhone, nous le sommes beauvoup moins maintenant concernant les promesses de chaque nouvelle suite d&#039;applications et de fonctionalités.  </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:06:26] Il fut un temps où réussir à émettre des appels longue distance intercontinentaux était vraiment cool, mais c&#039;est maintenant monnaie courante. De la même manière, si auparavant nous étions enthousiastes concernant la sortie du nouvel iPhone, nous le sommes beauvoup moins maintenant concernant les promesses de chaque nouvelle suite d&#039;applications et de fonctionalités.  </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:06:51] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">So I think what</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">s important to think about is how optimistic we once were</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">What did we think we were going to do</del>? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I think we thought we were going to be curing diseases</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Wouldn</del>&#039;<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">t it be great not to have lost anyone in your family from </del>cancer <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">when we declared a war on </del>cancer <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">in the early 1970s</del>? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">What did we think we were going to be doing with energy</del>?</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:06:51] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Je pense que ce qui compte, c</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">est combien nous étions enthousiastes avant</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">A quoi nous attendions-nous</ins>? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Je pense que nous pensions que nous allions pouvoir soigner toutes les maladies</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ne serait-ce pas fantastique que de ne perdre personne des suites d</ins>&#039;<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">un </ins>cancer<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, puisque nous avions déclaré la guerre au </ins>cancer <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">au début des années 70</ins>? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Et qu&#039;est-ce que nous espérions concernant l&#039;énergie</ins>?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:10] Didn&#039;t we think that fusion was around the corner? If you think about all of the things that we could be doing, we&#039;ve learned in most of these areas that it is no longer mature to hope, to imagine that somehow we are going to be able to make the future very different than the present. Yes, things will get a little bit better, but are they going to get dramatically better?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:07:10] Didn&#039;t we think that fusion was around the corner? If you think about all of the things that we could be doing, we&#039;ve learned in most of these areas that it is no longer mature to hope, to imagine that somehow we are going to be able to make the future very different than the present. Yes, things will get a little bit better, but are they going to get dramatically better?</div></td></tr> </table> ZelmarD https://theportal.wiki/index.php?title=2:_What_Is_The_Portal/lang-fr&diff=3723&oldid=prev ZelmarD: /* Le Portail? Qu'est-ce que c'est? */ 2020-04-19T18:49:56Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Le Portail? Qu&#039;est-ce que c&#039;est?</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:49, 19 April 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l44">Line 44:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 44:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:06:00] Imaginez une personne qui vient d&#039;avoir son bac. Un, deux ou trois ans plus tard, elle n&#039;a pas trouvé quoi faire de sa vie, et elle continue de trainer autour de son lycée, tandis que de moins en moins de lycéens qu&#039;elle connait continuent d&#039;aller en cours. Dans les faits, cette situation devient de plus en plus glauque. Je pense que c&#039;est essentiellement la situation dans laquelle nous sommes par rapport aux révolutions technologiques que nous avons entreprises.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:06:00] Imaginez une personne qui vient d&#039;avoir son bac. Un, deux ou trois ans plus tard, elle n&#039;a pas trouvé quoi faire de sa vie, et elle continue de trainer autour de son lycée, tandis que de moins en moins de lycéens qu&#039;elle connait continuent d&#039;aller en cours. Dans les faits, cette situation devient de plus en plus glauque. Je pense que c&#039;est essentiellement la situation dans laquelle nous sommes par rapport aux révolutions technologiques que nous avons entreprises.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:06:26] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">At some point it was incredibly </del>cool <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">to figure out how to place a long distance call between continents</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">but this has become commonplace</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Likewise</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">many of the fantastic things that once got us excited about the release of every new </del>iPhone <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">now has us relatively unexcited about the new </del>suite <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">of apps and features that every new phone promises will be slightly different than the one before</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:06:26] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Il fut un temps où réussir à émettre des appels longue distance intercontinentaux était vraiment </ins>cool, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">mais c&#039;est maintenant monnaie courante</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">De la même manière</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">si auparavant nous étions enthousiastes concernant la sortie du nouvel </ins>iPhone<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, nous le sommes beauvoup moins maintenant concernant les promesses de chaque nouvelle </ins>suite <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">d&#039;applications et de fonctionalités</ins>.  </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:06:51] So I think what&#039;s important to think about is how optimistic we once were. What did we think we were going to do? I think we thought we were going to be curing diseases. Wouldn&#039;t it be great not to have lost anyone in your family from cancer when we declared a war on cancer in the early 1970s? What did we think we were going to be doing with energy?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[00:06:51] So I think what&#039;s important to think about is how optimistic we once were. What did we think we were going to do? I think we thought we were going to be curing diseases. Wouldn&#039;t it be great not to have lost anyone in your family from cancer when we declared a war on cancer in the early 1970s? What did we think we were going to be doing with energy?</div></td></tr> </table> ZelmarD