Immigration: Difference between revisions

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/4802522023

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=You aren't thinking about immigration if you can't imagine barring a different worthy version of yourself from entering your own country.

|timestamp=5:26 AM · Oct 12, 2009

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/12744076946

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=If your position on immigration makes you feel good, you don't have a position on immigration.

|timestamp=4:08 AM · Apr 24, 2010

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/13229169956

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Telomeres, Scientist Shortages, Seiberg Witten, Inflation (CPI), E8 TOE, Immigration, Neoclassical tastes all now have fictional narratives.

|timestamp=5:02 AM · May 02, 2010

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/17845193303

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content="the price mechanism...has really not been applied to the immigration area to my knowledge in any systematic fashion." -G.Becker erasing me.

|timestamp=5:14 AM · Jul 06, 2010

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/652877541615636480

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=You cannot be talking about immigration if you are somehow either "for" or "against" it. #notafootballteam

|timestamp=4:05 PM · Oct 10, 2015

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/765949982121730048

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=The candidate I'm voting for is dissembling on Trade, Immigration, Terror, etc. It's *terrifying*: no smart person can get through to her.

|timestamp=4:34 PM · Aug 17, 2016

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/765995025138225152

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=How about we patriotic Americans admit what our own party does to screw each other. I went 1st on immigration.  

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/768981787267608578

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Also @HillaryClinton,we dems set Mexicans up as scapegoats when economists lie about the sordid economic reasons our crowd loves immigration

|timestamp=1:21 AM · Aug 26, 2016

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/771454760897564672

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Let's be fair to @realDonaldTrump: the cynical US elite that loves mass immigration for $ gain just got their teeth kicked in AZ.I admit it.

|timestamp=9:08 PM · Sep 01, 2016

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/771455507244589057

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content="We citizens demand high immigration! Some jobs we won't do!  Smarter immigrants do better work!" -thundered the voters of no country ever.

|timestamp=9:11 PM · Sep 01, 2016

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/771573811724423168

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=The foundational lie of US high skill immigration is a slanderous myth of US domestic scientific incompetence (cured by foreign genius).

|timestamp=5:01 AM · Sep 02, 2016

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/778240054409895936

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=A prerequisite to any serious discussion of immigration is that all participants be able to entertain denying themselves entry as immigrants

|timestamp=2:31 PM · Sep 20, 2016

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/791076660304941056

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=If you find the poll linked here interesting, feel free to RT so that we get as many diverse voices as possible. Thx.

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|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/791071702432096256

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Two different questions:

Q1) Are you more of a xenophile or a xenophobe?

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/798348589260939264

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=The most important thing in science is to go for high return almost regardless of risk w/o going crackpot, antiscience or pseudo-scientific.

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|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/798341184955371520

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=It should be thought unpatriotic not to help a new administration should they reach a hand cross the aisle to ask for Democratic/Left help.

|timestamp=1:45 AM · Nov 15, 2016

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/798342290741686272

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=The 3 areas where I would be most eager to help Trump: scientific research, immigration, education.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/826535614606565382

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@new9Nikhil Those bloodthirsty Jains never got in on the action though.

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|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/826492399908118529

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=My wife's family comes from two countries named in the EO on immigration (Iraq & Syria). Got 'em out just in time in the late 1700s.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/826527544274923527

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@new9Nikhil Bhagadhi community of Calcutta/Bombay

|timestamp=8:28 PM · Jan 31, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/826532669236211719

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@new9Nikhil To us, that's uncle Jackie. Took the surrender of E. Pakistan as a Jewish general but refused to humiliate his Muslim opponent.

|timestamp=8:48 PM · Jan 31, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/826535021624188934

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@new9Nikhil so odd right?

|timestamp=8:58 PM · Jan 31, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/826663065298968576

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@seanonolennon @hellojao Yeah. I think it's intentional too. It's manipulative negotiation theater. Hate it. But that's what they want.

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|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/826494671786422273

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=I respectfully disagree. The immigration tale of US is an essential load-bearing national mythology lIke "1 man 1 vote." This is our story. https://t.co/fmTAiOYMuU

|timestamp=6:17 PM · Jan 31, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/826497168965918720

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@jswriter65 Agree.

|timestamp=6:27 PM · Jan 31, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/826497404450975744

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@RyeinGoddard I know all this.

|timestamp=6:28 PM · Jan 31, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/826497763860844544

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@RyeinGoddard Thanks. Reread the tweets. It's about messaging. About national myth and the importance of fiction.

|timestamp=6:29 PM · Jan 31, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/826500048418529280

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@RyeinGoddard Also @Martyrmade is a very subtle thinker. That's why I'm picking on him of all people. I may learn something and update.

|timestamp=6:39 PM · Jan 31, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/826503468953145344

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@hellojao You seem to be the only one I've found who is hearing me on this. We may both be wrong but it's nice to hear someone else say it.

|timestamp=6:52 PM · Jan 31, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/826534886592765959

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@funwithaluminum Agree that 1965 act was the beginning of this remastered mass immigration story.

|timestamp=8:57 PM · Jan 31, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/828773156806463489

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Odd. My paper on NSF conspiracy behind the 1990 immigration act has been hosted at NBER since '98. Until just now...

https://t.co/xzG26ATBgM

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/847145823800455168

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=My @INETeconomics blog post: What's H1-B designed to do?

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/847973707913994240

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Waiting to know how (or if!) @nsf, @michiokaku, @theNASciences & other prominent backers of large scale scientific immigration defend this.. https://t.co/jIva21mKU0

|timestamp=12:47 AM · Apr 01, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/925997086432096257

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@sanjaygreddy @UCBerkeley @INETeconomics @PiaMalaney @delong @cbmaximin Perhaps twitter is not then the best place to restart this conversation with 140c and no LaTeX either....

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|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/922146600448937984

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=There was a remarkable collision of ideas between @UCBerkeley’s Brad@Delong & @INETeconomics’ @PiaMalaney @ #inet2017 on NAFTA thy&backlash. https://t.co/CGf5nmp3m2

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|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/922150368544509952

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@UCBerkeley @INETeconomics @PiaMalaney I & others spent decades claiming economists dissemble on the simple good of immigration/trade. And globalist @delong confessed today.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/923342288972943361

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@de1ong @INETeconomics @PiaMalaney @delong At #INET2017 you explicated "real theory" had been "Too Complex" for trade outsiders. Hence the right to tergiversate to lesser colleagues.

|timestamp=12:15 AM · Oct 26, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/923342862632099840

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@de1ong @INETeconomics @PiaMalaney @delong Now you invoke Strauss a 2nd time to use priestly speech to call me an Anti-Semite on Twitter (a first?) because I'm too simple to 'get it'?

|timestamp=12:17 AM · Oct 26, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/923342966600613888

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@de1ong @INETeconomics @PiaMalaney @delong Got it.

|timestamp=12:18 AM · Oct 26, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/925882469106122753

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@sanjaygreddy @UCBerkeley @INETeconomics @PiaMalaney @delong Always been there: “Migration for the Benefit of All” ‘02 in International Labor Review. But that’s not what this was about. #EconSquared

|timestamp=12:29 AM · Nov 02, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/925883088206364672

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@sanjaygreddy @UCBerkeley @INETeconomics @PiaMalaney @delong @cbmaximin I went through the same dark night of Neo-Liberal rationalization of macropaternalism you did my friend.

|timestamp=12:31 AM · Nov 02, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/925996653483454464

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@sanjaygreddy @UCBerkeley @INETeconomics @PiaMalaney @delong @cbmaximin I don’t understand you then. We used to discuss the political economy of rationalizing trade/immigration to serve redistributive ends, no?

|timestamp=8:03 AM · Nov 02, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942870249874976769

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion @TimBartik If you're honest, then stop w/ the red herrings on Demand Curve modeling as my point is TOTALLY agnostic to that. You write that my paper "Is a good idea that deserves much more thought!" Okay. Don't tell me. Show me a lack of capture. Put in demand curve shocks. NOTHING changes. https://t.co/n8s40niyuf

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|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942073493155229696

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Great. Let's do this then as I'm can play as an expert too: Harvard PhD. MIT/Harvard/NBER Post-Docs. Sloan Funded. NSF-Fellowship. Etc...

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942079703812210688

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=1/ I was in multiple closed rooms where experts told me over and over "Well of course we can never say that to the public/donors/students/patients/voters." Cambridge MA, Washington D.C., New York. And now, San Francisco too where it hit quite a few years later.

|timestamp=5:11 PM · Dec 16, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942081705615155200

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=2/ Let me tell you what we've been lying about (in elite terminology) on MAJOR issues one by one: [[Immigration|immigration]], trade, STEM, mortgage backed securities and self-regulation, terror, [[Fake News|fake news]] and [[Conspiracy Fact|conspiracy]]. [I will need to run a few errands now, but will return here later today.]

|timestamp=5:19 PM · Dec 16, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942118298640048128

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=3/ IMMIGRATION: EXPERT LIES

Experts lie about work based immigration as needed for free markets to remove a tiny 'Harberger Triangle' of inefficiency. It is the reverse: an uncompensated taking of citizen's rights without securitization to transfer a massive '[[Borjas Rectangle Theory|Borjas Rectangle]]'.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942119522844033024

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=4/ IMMIGRATION (CONTINUED). In free markets, citizens TRADE their rights of preferential labor market access a la [[Ronald Coase|Coase's theorem]]. The giant [[Borjas Rectangle Theory|Borjas Rectangle]] would stay w/ labor. Inequality could reverse. Women/minorities would enter. Income might again rise. Foreigners welcomed.

|timestamp=7:49 PM · Dec 16, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942120782351630336

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=5/ IMMIGRATION (CONTINUED). Here is an expert article I wrote on the subject (peer reviewed, UN sponsored Journal): https://www.ilo.org/sites/default/files/wcmsp5/groups/public/@ed_protect/@protrav/@migrant/documents/publication/wcms_201871.pdf

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942122294259826689

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=6/ TRADE: EXPERT LIES.  

In the theory of trade, lies are deeply layered. First there is a nonsensical emphasis on Pareto improvement (as if that was a meaningful social welfare function) & a denial of [[Cardinal Utility|cardinal utility]] to stop diminishing returns arguments being applied to wealth.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942124768139943936

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=7/ TRADE (continued): [ for @RadioFreeTom @SamHarrisOrg ]

Then we substitute a Kaldor-Hicks standard for Pareto welfare as if we were going to tax winners to pay losers. Which trade economists laugh about. Because what factory worker ever heard of “unimplemeted Kaldor-Hicks”.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942126742256287744

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=8/ As the grandson of a seamstress, a door2door used clothing salesman, a self educated chemist thrown out of work for his politics and a female college grad who couldn’t work in a man’s world, it feels great to stand as a STEM PhD speaking the language of the academy for them.

|timestamp=8:18 PM · Dec 16, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942129568500015104

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@SamHarrisOrg @RadioFreeTom

9/TRADE (CONT.): Then there‘s the appearance of “Comparative Advantage” which was recently revealed as an iron clad Exoteric explanation trade experts give to all but each other because the real Esoteric is “too complex” for the rest of us & has holes.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942130697023582208

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@LibertyRBlack The seamstress and the Shmata salesman.

|timestamp=8:33 PM · Dec 16, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942133707485298688

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@RadioFreeTom @SamHarrisOrg Nah. It’s about [[Universal Institutional Betrayal|institutional betrayal]]. Nobody resents Elon Musk or Tony Stark for wealth. The poor want experts.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942136473347702784

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@RadioFreeTom @SamHarrisOrg Oh cool. [[Universal Institutional Betrayal|“Institutional Betrayal”]] is an academic theory for trauma differentiation of @jjforegon. You in particular should find it interesting I think. People betrayed by institutions with mandates to care for them behave differently re trauma.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942138500039634944

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@RadioFreeTom @SamHarrisOrg Also, the public that is HIGH agency is looking for alternate non-institutional experts: @nntaleb @BretWeinstein @jordanbpeterson @CHSommers @SamHarrisOrg @HeatherEHeying @PiaMalaney @peterthiel @DouglasKMurray @Raheelraza @tristanharris @sparker etc....

|timestamp=9:04 PM · Dec 16, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942142980227342336

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@RadioFreeTom @SamHarrisOrg  

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942145387665670144

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@GodDoesnt @RadioFreeTom @SamHarrisOrg @paulkrugman That doesn’t solve it. Are the Harvard and UChicago Econ departments elite or expert? National Academy complex? Same question. NPR? CFR?

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942147489653596160

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@GodDoesnt @RadioFreeTom @SamHarrisOrg @paulkrugman Same here. All I’m saying is the institutional elites compromise their institutional experts. Every day, institutional experts are free to speak against their institution’s bias. It’s the next day when survivor bias kicks in. Now repeat across non-financially independent experts.

|timestamp=9:40 PM · Dec 16, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942147841471889408

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@fazinga They are typically educated at top universities. They are typically in non-standard employment. I frequently don’t like what they are saying as it is often disturbing.

|timestamp=9:42 PM · Dec 16, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942155892241207296

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@SamHarrisOrg @RadioFreeTom  

10/TRADE (CONT.)

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942158917181759488

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=11/ TRADE (CONT.)

Now what happened when @PiaMalaney, a Harvard PhD Economist finally got to explain to the 'experts' why the world is rejecting experts, and in their own professional language? She's *totally* ignored by the panel.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942160025333653504

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@SamHarrisOrg @RadioFreeTom  

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942204665617190913

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@disitinerant @GodDoesnt @RadioFreeTom @SamHarrisOrg @paulkrugman Accurate.

|timestamp=1:27 AM · Dec 17, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942205029548564480

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@GodDoesnt @disitinerant @RadioFreeTom @SamHarrisOrg @paulkrugman Nah. Just more systems of selective pressures ...

|timestamp=1:29 AM · Dec 17, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942449949861494784

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@RadioFreeTom @SamHarrisOrg @paulkrugman What are your thoughts here @RadioFreeTom? I can go into detail on a number of these. We could do the fake STEM shortage backed by the @NSF and @theNASciences if you don’t believe in such things.

|timestamp=5:42 PM · Dec 17, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942455838987337728

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@RadioFreeTom @SamHarrisOrg @paulkrugman @NSF @theNASciences Do we disagree on fundamentals over this:

|timestamp=6:05 PM · Dec 17, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942457223896166401

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@RadioFreeTom @SamHarrisOrg @paulkrugman @NSF @theNASciences And, no I don’t call something a conspiracy because I disagree w/ experts. I usually agree w/ them! What I disageee with is using expertise to transfer wealth & agency from the supposedly childlike voters who intuit something is rigged but can’t name it in political 3 card Monty.

|timestamp=6:11 PM · Dec 17, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942507916824788992

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@nntaleb @RadioFreeTom @SamHarrisOrg @BretWeinstein @jordanbpeterson @CHSommers @HeatherEHeying @PiaMalaney @peterthiel @DouglasKMurray @Raheelraza @tristanharris @sparker Hi Nassim, With 66 dyadic relationships between 12 individuals there was zero implied pairwise mutual endorsement or respect implied. I’m certainly happy to make that explicit here for the record if that wasn’t clear.

|timestamp=9:32 PM · Dec 17, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942508569022283776

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@nntaleb @RadioFreeTom @SamHarrisOrg @BretWeinstein @jordanbpeterson @CHSommers @HeatherEHeying @PiaMalaney @peterthiel @DouglasKMurray @Raheelraza @tristanharris @sparker Will read. Thanks!

|timestamp=9:35 PM · Dec 17, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942804302774415360

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion So if we push out supply curves there is no first order depressing effect on price...except that maybe it rises? Man this is big. Like Nobel Big!

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942818918510444544

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Hence my use of the term '1st-order' (partial equilibrium). A full model would go well beyond what you write including social services, chain migration, dependency ratios, negative externalities, concentrated impact, vote dilution, patent production, sending country impact, etc..

|timestamp=6:08 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942819935301943296

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=A big game in economics is often who gets to use simple models & who gets forced into adding a million baroque complexities. I agree that immigrants add to demand. Also tax social services. Also pay taxes. Also send remittances. Also found businesses. Also crowd out natives. etc.

|timestamp=6:12 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942820529123213312

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Perhaps you were so busy reacting to the name [[George Borjas|Borjas]] that you missed the point of introducing [[Ronald Coase|Coase]]. Coase allows those many nth order effects to be subsumed in the choices of those impacted both positively & negatively. Hence the ability to have unlimited migration. Re-read it.

|timestamp=6:15 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942821656451457024

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Let's not play games. The unpopular transfer from L to K by a forced taking of the rectangle without the securitization of labor's valuable asymmetric rights and workers rights to trade them stands as an issue having nothing to do with your attack on [[George Borjas|Borjas]].  

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942833454290419714

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Look again at my paper and you will see something very odd from a mathematician: there are no equations. That came from reviewing this style of argument you are engaging in now. The point isn't this or that effect. It is forced transfers by capital vs voluntary trade with labor.

|timestamp=7:06 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942835372735676416

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=So put in a moving demand curve or even negative rectangles or other red herrings.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942836997776752640

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=No one is arguing that in a full model. The issue isn't about immigrants either. It is about forcible [[Coasian rights|non-Coasian]] taking of rights through law by employers without trade or consent of labor aided by economics 'experts' portrayed falsely under the banner of free markets.

|timestamp=7:20 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942839136745951232

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Noah, I'm just really not sure what game you're playing. Economists add (e.g. "your model forgot this externality!") and subtract effects (e.g. "for simplicity we neglect"). None of this matters to my paper or point. None of it. My point is expert aided non-consensual transfers.

|timestamp=7:29 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942840421650010112

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=You're not even close. In econ 101, agents are rational. Remember? If workers benefit from immigration they will support it in droves. Right?

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942842777208885248

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion @TimBartik Oh wow! That's what I *love* about economists: a total reliance on ad hoc selective application of standards to reach desired conclusions.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942844635751235584

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Ha! I'm trying Noah. But it's hard to Teleman something when his econ job depends on his not understanding it, no?  

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942858250638082049

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Wait, don't those swings *undermine* your Econ 101 point? The power of the Purcell getcha every time. See attached from:  

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942858774368329728

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=It's not about polls. It's not about Partial vs General equlibrium models. Not about Econ 101. It's about taking something valuable almost no one would give by choice by having experts defend the interests of employers with selective modeling.

|timestamp=8:47 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942865369680592896

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Noah, I answered every point. You are both for & against Econ 101 while I have no investment in it. If you want to forcibly transfer rights instead of letting workers trade them, ask yourself who you are really trying to benefit.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942865558969597952

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=If you want to write a paper detailing my failures, it will be an honor to review it fairly. But it had ZERO dependence on any of the points you made. Including demand curves. Be well.

|timestamp=9:14 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942870249874976769

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion @TimBartik If you're honest, then stop w/ the red herrings on Demand Curve modeling as my point is TOTALLY agnostic to that. You write that my paper "Is a good idea that deserves much more thought!" Okay. Don't tell me. Show me a lack of capture. Put in demand curve shocks. NOTHING changes. https://t.co/n8s40niyuf

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|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942804302774415360

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion So if we push out supply curves there is no first order depressing effect on price...except that maybe it rises? Man this is big. Like Nobel Big!

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942818918510444544

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion Hence my use of the term '1st-order' (partial equilibrium). A full model would go well beyond what you write including social services, chain migration, dependency ratios, negative externalities, concentrated impact, vote dilution, patent production, sending country impact, etc..

|timestamp=6:08 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942819935301943296

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion A big game in economics is often who gets to use simple models & who gets forced into adding a million baroque complexities. I agree that immigrants add to demand. Also tax social services. Also pay taxes. Also send remittances. Also found businesses. Also crowd out natives. etc.

|timestamp=6:12 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942820529123213312

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion Perhaps you were so busy reacting to the name Borjas that you missed the point of introducing Coase. Coase allows those many nth order effects to be subsumed in the choices of those impacted both positively & negatively. Hence the ability to have unlimited migration. Re-read it.

|timestamp=6:15 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942821656451457024

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion Let's not play games. The unpopular transfer from L to K by a forced taking of the rectangle without the securitization of labor's valuable asymmetric rights and workers rights to trade them stands as an issue having nothing to do with your attack on Borjas.  

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942833454290419714

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion @TimBartik Look again at my paper and you will see something very odd from a mathematician: there are no equations. That came from reviewing this style of argument you are engaging in now. The point isn't this or that effect. It is forced transfers by capital vs voluntary trade with labor.

|timestamp=7:06 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942836997776752640

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion @TimBartik No one is arguing that in a full model. The issue isn't about immigrants either. It is about forcible non-Coasian taking of rights through law by employers without trade or consent of labor aided by economics 'experts' portrayed falsely under the banner of free markets.

|timestamp=7:20 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942839136745951232

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion @TimBartik Noah, I'm just really not sure what game you're playing. Economists add (e.g. "your model forgot this externality!") and subtract effects (e.g. "for simplicity we neglect"). None of this matters to my paper or point. None of it. My point is expert aided non-consensual transfers.

|timestamp=7:29 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942840421650010112

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion @TimBartik You're not even close. In econ 101, agents are rational. Remember? If workers benefit from immigration they will support it in droves. Right?

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942842777208885248

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion @TimBartik Oh wow! That's what I *love* about economists: a total reliance on ad hoc selective application of standards to reach desired conclusions.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942844635751235584

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion @TimBartik Ha! I'm trying Noah. But it's hard to Teleman something when his econ job depends on his not understanding it, no?  

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942858250638082049

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion @TimBartik Wait, don't those swings *undermine* your Econ 101 point? The power of the Purcell getcha every time. See attached from:  

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942858774368329728

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion @TimBartik It's not about polls. It's not about Partial vs General equlibrium models. Not about Econ 101. It's about taking something valuable almost no one would give by choice by having experts defend the interests of employers with selective modeling.

|timestamp=8:47 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942865369680592896

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion @TimBartik Noah, I answered every point. You are both for & against Econ 101 while I have no investment in it. If you want to forcibly transfer rights instead of letting workers trade them, ask yourself who you are really trying to benefit.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/942865558969597952

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Noahpinion @TimBartik If you want to write a paper detailing my failures, it will be an honor to review it fairly. But it had ZERO dependence on any of the points you made. Including demand curves. Be well.

|timestamp=9:14 PM · Dec 18, 2017

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/995113182287970304

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@dandrezner @bariweiss [please continue to hold.....]

|thread=

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/994990051783204864

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@dandrezner "all these thinkers can do is appease their followers. They are thought leaders who cannot demonstrate any leadership." -@dandrezner

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/995012008264187904

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@dandrezner @bariweiss Splendid. But that "Take" isn't what the IDW is about. I mean do you take issue w/ my work on labor markets? Mortgage backed securities? CPI and GDP? Bret's take on drug testing on specially bred mice? Heather on risk in Education? Ben's conservative objection to Breitbart/Trump?

|timestamp=6:45 PM · May 11, 2018

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/995013133482643456

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@dandrezner @bariweiss Are you objecting to Sam Harris' desire to put transcendence into Athiesm via meditation or even psychedlics? Jordan's emphasis on needing to offer unapologetically family/work-oriented male models to outcompete the lure of hate?  

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/995013677974667264

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@dandrezner @bariweiss May I ask you to look again or too explain why all the interesting things we talk about are of no interest? You might want to look at my essays on Russell Conjugation, Excellence, The crisis in Physics, Four Quadrant model, Kayfabe, Anthropic Capitalism, Coasian immigration, etc.

|timestamp=6:52 PM · May 11, 2018

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/995014557578903552

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@dandrezner @bariweiss And that's just my stuff. Every one of us has such a catalog. How are you saying none of this is of any interest. You can see that from our engagement on even on technical geeky topics. This isn't about SJWs gone mad.  

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/995089909697298432

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@dandrezner @bariweiss How did it go? Honestly I would have thought this research would happen before forming such a strong conclusion.

|timestamp=11:54 PM · May 11, 2018

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1004704394066067456

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@CathyYoung63 By all means, if you think *that* is the salient argument, then dare to ask my question. My main claim is that mass immigration advocates know that they are dependent on NOT asking my question. They depend on a universal narrative that restrictionism is due solely to xenophobia.

|thread=

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1004363916397277189

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=The purpose of modern immigration “journalism” is making the most common position appear as if no one holds it. That position is Xenophilic Restrictionism.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1004702864164335617

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@CathyYoung63 True. I can’t know for sure. But you’re missing my main point. I have been running versions of this question informally for almost 30 years. Based on results, I’m eager to bait someone into making the objection you raise stick by running a professionally done large N poll. Do it!

|timestamp=12:33 PM · Jun 07, 2018

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1030142875554566144

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@CockleburrSoft @ATabarrok I’d have to hear his full position to know.

|thread=

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1029821697648545792

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=The debate over immigration is often reported as dominated by two positions: open borders and closed borders.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1050768226777325568

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@dougyt @EricHolder When leaders tell rank and file to harass the other side we arent far off. Trump was *far* worse than Maxine Waters telling people he would pay legal bills for violence against protesters, but harassment is weirdly becoming near official democratic policy. Nuts. I hate this shit.

|thread=

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1049739473985069056

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=A young m/f breadwinner (say 25-8) needs to be able to buy a reasonably priced home in a decent town/city with many opportunities & provide for a second parent m/f to stay home raising 2-3 young children.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1049741068298665984

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=You want our parties to end this unraveling? Get them to agree that when a nation cannot provide sufficient opportunities allowing unremarkable *young* folks to couple, become stakeholders & tend to the raising of healthy kids, we have problems that don’t touch our donor classes.

|timestamp=7:19 PM · Oct 09, 2018

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1049742438070247424

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@balakachai Yep. It now sounds insane, right?

|timestamp=7:24 PM · Oct 09, 2018

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1049744779972554752

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@balakachai With ya on that.

|timestamp=7:33 PM · Oct 09, 2018

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1049749673710215168

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@1ErikBakke Я всегда говорю по-английски.

|timestamp=7:53 PM · Oct 09, 2018

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1050754284847910913

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@dougyt Well said. But “prices are what they are” does not work for labor if price goes too low. Labor forms beliefs unlike other commodities. Labor can spot its price being manipulated (e.g. work visas).  Labor can also take to the streets/ballots.  

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1050755132667785217

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@dougyt We can do a lot. Tax codes, immigration law, high speed rail, education programs, new industry incentives, changes in tariffs and trade terms, labor law, immigration law and enforcement, zoning, etc all can change the price of labor and value of citizenship.

|timestamp=2:28 PM · Oct 12, 2018

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1050758485627924480

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@dougyt We are in agreement! Now here’s the weird thing. That tweet that has over 6k likes? It produced wild interest from the right & no comparable interest from the left. This, despite being in no way heteronormative or male oriented.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1059631815630057472

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@rcanacci @michaelshermer Nah brah. “There shall be open borders.” Is WSJ.

|thread=

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1059624020939694080

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@michaelshermer Ok.  But rather than pointing to the hypocrisy, we could instead teach folks how to think about immigration. People are being told something akin to any desire to have a locked front door is equivalent to being a bad or selfish person.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1059624751784636416

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@michaelshermer I think people of all faiths and atheists as well are struggling because they are being propagandized by political zealots of both open and closed border types.  

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1073795349641187328

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@brianchee26 I guess I found the remarks ambiguous. It wasn’t clear. At least to me. But then  I only read the transcription of an excerpt.

|thread=

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1073783722468466688

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Some of us once knew a woman who openly referred to immigrants as “wretched refuse.”

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1073785751836418048

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=I may not care for Tucker’s language  here & I don’t agree with his position here. But I am very disturbed at our increasingly censorious and punishing culture of shame. Let’s open a dialog.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1073788184327147520

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@poitevin I’ve been in many meetings where a push for high skilled immigrants by STEM employers is (privately) contrasted with the refugee, lottery & family reunification categories. The claim is always that high skilled is “educated & crime free” by contrast.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1073794247508189185

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@poitevin I also think that “dirty & poor” refugees make the most loyal Americans on average.  

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1076611740635287554

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Q: Should conservatives be able to use the road system, purchase internet access, and enjoy access to the financial system if they might use this to support Trump, smaller social programs, and restricted immigration?

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088848555140239360

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@csgrandfield Sure. But don’t stop there. Why not flood 10% of our occupations for the benefit of the other 90%? We could play “labor roulette” to choose who loses.

|thread=

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088659844171591681

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=No mainstream outlet has properly covered this story in 25 years. Every big paper has asked about it. Yet every story is always spiked by an editor. It just sits there in full view of the entire press core.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088659841407569920

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Let me remind you what the National Science Foundation / National Academy were really up to w/ high skilled immigration. But let’s do it in their own words from their own secret study which they hid from the public. It was about tampering w/ free markets to hobble US scientists.

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|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088662279459987457

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@KevinYen I don’t know. Many reporters have gone fairly far. Then one day you get the call: “Uh, the story we were working on is dead.” Or “My editor says she loves it but says to hold off.” or “I was told the Optics are wrong for our paper.” Or some other weird thing. Always.

|timestamp=4:58 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088662627943735296

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@sirgutz https://t.co/Dn7SdovUSJ

|timestamp=4:59 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088663151728484357

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@SamEdwa61996553 Absolutely. Total conspiracy. Why? Do you believe conspiracies are all bullshit? I know too much settled history to play that game.

|timestamp=5:01 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088663310327640064

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@EvolutionistXX https://t.co/Dn7SdovUSJ

|timestamp=5:02 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088663381232345089

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Crystal_cv512hg https://t.co/Dn7SdovUSJ

|timestamp=5:02 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088663615199051776

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@EstherOfReilly https://t.co/Dn7SdovUSJ

|timestamp=5:03 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088663679258681344

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Aceinmysleeve1 You are the winner!

|timestamp=5:03 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088664257938448384

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@nedjeffery It doesn’t do any good on Twitter. The Gated Institutional Narrative is where the policy action is. They are the ones who pretend it doesn’t exist because they know it’s true.

|timestamp=5:06 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088664384652533765

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@EvolutionistXX Sure thing.

|timestamp=5:06 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088664511266009088

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@StevenWallman @eiaine That’s what birthed H1B.

|timestamp=5:07 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088669476889849857

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Turin_Luca https://t.co/Dn7SdovUSJ

|timestamp=5:26 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088671026165080064

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@youBUOY @Aceinmysleeve1 Bien sur! Sorry.

|timestamp=5:32 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088671453141061632

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@Turin_Luca Of course.

|timestamp=5:34 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088681399932973056

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@MAWalke12024508 @KMGVictoria I want to know what stops this story.

|timestamp=6:14 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1088697498825154560

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@TreiberS It’s one hell of a rabbit hole. Yes, senior scientists and employers destroyed the career path for their younger colleagues. That was the shocker. It was the NSF/NAS.

|timestamp=7:18 AM · Jan 25, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1090662531876773889

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@mattskala I encounter these people constantly. Hmm. I wonder if we are having vastly different experiences. My world is pretty ideological and progressive.

|thread=

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1090649416824963073

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Just let me know that you’ve made the full down payment on your ideology and we can begin.

|timestamp=4:34 PM · Jan 30, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1090649415805743105

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Your Debit Card & Pin are the Borders of your bank account.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1090650750697508866

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@mattskala It’s the exact reverse of that. Perhaps that’s what’s confusing. This only applies to people making the argument that borders are immoral. If you want borders but higher immigration it doesn’t apply to you.

|timestamp=4:39 PM · Jan 30, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1090657204141723650

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@BridgetPhetasy https://t.co/NmrqHeH9iC

|timestamp=5:05 PM · Jan 30, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1090660624374382593

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@JustSayin_Yo @BridgetPhetasy So sad:

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1090662206331645953

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@OtisManousakos @BridgetPhetasy Go back and forth between Cocker and Ray Charles though.

|timestamp=5:25 PM · Jan 30, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1093144078391209984

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@DaraSeiner @SamHarrisOrg Unlike the country or the world population as a whole? Check your news feed.

|thread=

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1093003325753090049

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=Had a blast with @SamHarrisOrg in Detroit and Milwaukee.

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1093014707437416449

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@DanielDoelger @SamHarrisOrg That Bill Buckner thing? It happened during my 21st birthday party that I was having on Bigelow street in Central Square in Cambridge. Screwed everything up. It was like a funeral instead.

|timestamp=5:13 AM · Feb 06, 2019

|nameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1093143260585897984

|name=Eric Weinstein

|content=@GTAlien @SamHarrisOrg Love Toronto. I’d do a gig there in a heartbeat if I could bundle it with a trip to @Perimeter and/or @FieldsInstitute to geek out.