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* "We spent almost 80% of this time being told that ST was a 'Piece of 21st Century Physics that fell into the 20th Century.' Uh. Bullshit. That is an excuse. It's not clear that it's physics at all. It's a 'Failed piece of 20th Century Physics still hanging around in the 21stC'." (February 2, 2023).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1621054193426661376 February 2, 2023]</ref>
* "We spent almost 80% of this time being told that ST was a 'Piece of 21st Century Physics that fell into the 20th Century.' Uh. Bullshit. That is an excuse. It's not clear that it's physics at all. It's a 'Failed piece of 20th Century Physics still hanging around in the 21stC'." (February 2, 2023).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1621054193426661376 February 2, 2023]</ref>
* "We need to spend perhaps 5yrs asking 'If the leaders have not succeeded for FIVE DECADES in moving beyond the [Standard Model], then why are they leading this field and directing the resources, research, and path forward? What if we listened to those who the leadership push aside?'" (February 2, 2023).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1621054201957847040 February 2, 2023]</ref>
* "We need to spend perhaps 5yrs asking 'If the leaders have not succeeded for FIVE DECADES in moving beyond the [Standard Model], then why are they leading this field and directing the resources, research, and path forward? What if we listened to those who the leadership push aside?'" (February 2, 2023).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1621054201957847040 February 2, 2023]</ref>
* "And then the massive massive massive screw up was allowing the totalizing madness of [“Quantum Gravity”] to take over HEP-TH as if it were [[The Only Game in Town|“The Only Game In Town”]] and letting its leadership brainwash the up and coming talent into believing that there was one true path. Totally insane." (October 7, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1975659241781575728 October 7, 2025]</ref>
* "And then the massive massive massive screw up was allowing the totalizing madness of [“Quantum Gravity”] to take over HEP-TH as if it were [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The Only Game In Town”]] and letting its leadership brainwash the up and coming talent into believing that there was one true path. Totally insane." (October 7, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1975659241781575728 October 7, 2025]</ref>


He calls for reforms: "I’d propose total reassessment of the National Physics program. Much greater autonomy for theorists. *Much* higher salaries. Much greater *diversity* of approaches. More high precision work. Fewer graduate programs. Physics = economic/security priority. Admit [[String Theory|String Thy]] failure." (April 22, 2021).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1385263862698577922 April 22, 2021]</ref>
He calls for reforms: "I’d propose total reassessment of the National Physics program. Much greater autonomy for theorists. *Much* higher salaries. Much greater *diversity* of approaches. More high precision work. Fewer graduate programs. Physics = economic/security priority. Admit [[String Theory|String Thy]] failure." (April 22, 2021).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1385263862698577922 April 22, 2021]</ref>
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* "[String Theory] isn’t the problem. String culture is poisonous to science. String theory, like love, means never having to say your sorry. Or mistaken." (August 24, 2022).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1562465038962610178 August 24, 2022]</ref>
* "[String Theory] isn’t the problem. String culture is poisonous to science. String theory, like love, means never having to say your sorry. Or mistaken." (August 24, 2022).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1562465038962610178 August 24, 2022]</ref>
* "The issue is the “String Theory is the only game in town” which appears designed to destroy fundamental physics itself... The defining feature of String Theory is that it would rather fundamental physics die than that String Theory face healthy adult rivals that were not maimed, crippled, stolen, or murdered in their cribs." (April 15, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1912032953896673603 April 15, 2025]</ref>
* "The issue is the “String Theory is the only game in town” which appears designed to destroy fundamental physics itself... The defining feature of String Theory is that it would rather fundamental physics die than that String Theory face healthy adult rivals that were not maimed, crippled, stolen, or murdered in their cribs." (April 15, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1912032953896673603 April 15, 2025]</ref>
* "The appearance of [[String Theory|String-Theory/M-theory]] as [[The Only Game in Town|“The Only Game in Town” (TOGIT)]] has no precedence... The rivals never got heard." (August 16, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1956769068188594232 August 16, 2025]</ref>
* "The appearance of [[String Theory|String-Theory/M-theory]] as [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The Only Game in Town” (TOGIT)]] has no precedence... The rivals never got heard." (August 16, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1956769068188594232 August 16, 2025]</ref>
* "Congratulations to: @thebadstats @daveexplains @GurusPod @IAmTimNguyen / @Google @Samuel_Gregson @C_Kavanagh @ArthurCDent @kagankans / @WSJ You just showed the world why Quantum Gravity/StringTheory/M-Theory is “The Only Game in Town”: Group Bullying * kills* Scientific Dissent" (September 17, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1968365361382002922 September 17, 2025]</ref>
* "Congratulations to: @thebadstats @daveexplains @GurusPod @IAmTimNguyen / @Google @Samuel_Gregson @C_Kavanagh @ArthurCDent @kagankans / @WSJ You just showed the world why Quantum Gravity/StringTheory/M-Theory is “The Only Game in Town”: Group Bullying * kills* Scientific Dissent" (September 17, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1968365361382002922 September 17, 2025]</ref>
* "Right Freeway: GR and SM must be harmonized. Wrong Exit: Catastrophic leadership decisions. “Gravity must be quantized and only String Theory and M-Theory can do it. Convert or perish! All mere mortals stand back. We will have this wrapped up in 10 years!! Give us all resources and young talent now.”" (October 7, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1975659241781575728 October 7, 2025]</ref>
* "Right Freeway: GR and SM must be harmonized. Wrong Exit: Catastrophic leadership decisions. “Gravity must be quantized and only String Theory and M-Theory can do it. Convert or perish! All mere mortals stand back. We will have this wrapped up in 10 years!! Give us all resources and young talent now.”" (October 7, 2025).<ref>[https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1975659241781575728 October 7, 2025]</ref>
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Woit is an excellent example of someone who was told he was barren when he was a pure critic...only to then be told he was a self-promoter when he had something to say about the structure bundle of CP^3 being potentially the low energy electro strong SU(3)xU(1) and the oddity of the chirality of the weak force being either fully on or off rather than merely conjugate V vs \bar{V}.
Woit is an excellent example of someone who was told he was barren when he was a pure critic...only to then be told he was a self-promoter when he had something to say about the structure bundle of CP^3 being potentially the low energy electro strong SU(3)xU(1) and the oddity of the chirality of the weak force being either fully on or off rather than merely conjugate V vs \bar{V}.


It's time to stop pretending this is about physics. It's about protecting a 4 decade MASSIVE screw up pretending that there is [[The Only Game in Town|only one game in town]].
It's time to stop pretending this is about physics. It's about protecting a 4 decade MASSIVE screw up pretending that there is [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|only one game in town]].
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Senior physicists
Senior physicists


[[The Only Game in Town|The “Only Game in Town!” monopoly]]
[[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|The “Only Game in Town!” monopoly]]


@pmarca’s WH convo
@pmarca’s WH convo
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So even when their team loses on the field,  they still win by referees decision that they are the only real team competing. Everyone else focuses on whether they have background independence, particle predictions or a renormalizable spin 2 quantization. That is a total red herring.  
So even when their team loses on the field,  they still win by referees decision that they are the only real team competing. Everyone else focuses on whether they have background independence, particle predictions or a renormalizable spin 2 quantization. That is a total red herring.  


Sabine: Theoretical physics isn’t this dumb or anti-scientific. It’s impossible. [[The Only Game in Town|“The only game in town”]] campaign is not a [[String Theory|string theoretic]] idea. It is totally foreign to science.
Sabine: Theoretical physics isn’t this dumb or anti-scientific. It’s impossible. [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The only game in town”]] campaign is not a [[String Theory|string theoretic]] idea. It is totally foreign to science.


Something separate doesn’t want rival theories side by side. In a science we would all be expected to listen to each other. This is what my first memories of physics looked like 1983-1988. There were different ideas. Nothing like this.
Something separate doesn’t want rival theories side by side. In a science we would all be expected to listen to each other. This is what my first memories of physics looked like 1983-1988. There were different ideas. Nothing like this.
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|content=The issue isn’t [[String Theory]] which has obviously failed in the terms it set for itself.  
|content=The issue isn’t [[String Theory]] which has obviously failed in the terms it set for itself.  


The issue is the [[The Only Game in Town|“String Theory is the only game in town”]] which appears designed to destroy fundamental physics itself. If you have spent 40 years bragging and failing, wouldn’t you at least ask “Doesn’t anyone have any other ideas?” before finally going over the edge of the cliff?  
The issue is the [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“String Theory is the only game in town”]] which appears designed to destroy fundamental physics itself. If you have spent 40 years bragging and failing, wouldn’t you at least ask “Doesn’t anyone have any other ideas?” before finally going over the edge of the cliff?  


<nowiki>*</nowiki>Absolutely* not. And that tells you that string theory isn’t a theory. It’s some kind of a suicide pact. Better that the field die than we ask “What if the string theorists were always wrong including pronouncements about [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and against other theorists? What if [[The Only Game in Town|‘the only game in town’]] was always an obviously totally unethical anti-scientific move to destroy and poison the market place of ideas?”
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Absolutely* not. And that tells you that string theory isn’t a theory. It’s some kind of a suicide pact. Better that the field die than we ask “What if the string theorists were always wrong including pronouncements about [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and against other theorists? What if [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|‘the only game in town’]] was always an obviously totally unethical anti-scientific move to destroy and poison the market place of ideas?”


cc: @bgreene.
cc: @bgreene.
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“We may be faking a [[Quantum Gravity]] revolution.”
“We may be faking a [[Quantum Gravity]] revolution.”


“We may be lying that [[The Only Game in Town|all the competitors to String theory are all bad science or PseudoScience]].”
“We may be lying that [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|all the competitors to String theory are all bad science or PseudoScience]].”


You want to go short Michael? Give me the generous odds that come from your study of conspiracy theorists.  
You want to go short Michael? Give me the generous odds that come from your study of conspiracy theorists.  
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|content=Here is one in theoretical physics dear @grok.
|content=Here is one in theoretical physics dear @grok.


In order to justify the failure that is [[Quantum Gravity]] research and its claim to be [[The Only Game in Town|the only game in town]]. All physicists are expected to parrot a party line:  
In order to justify the failure that is [[Quantum Gravity]] research and its claim to be [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|the only game in town]]. All physicists are expected to parrot a party line:  


“Our two greatest theories are [[General Relativity]] which dominates in the very large, and the Standard Model which dominates in the world of the very small. Unfortunately, they are incompatible because one is a quantum theory while the other is merely classical. That is why, for the last 100 years, a theory of [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity (QG)]] has been seen as the holy grail of theoretical physics. Unfortunately despite a century of effort, no one has shown exactly how to quantize gravity. But quantizing gravity must occur because nature cannot be half classical and half quantum. So the ultimate theory of QG remains physics’ top priority.”
“Our two greatest theories are [[General Relativity]] which dominates in the very large, and the Standard Model which dominates in the world of the very small. Unfortunately, they are incompatible because one is a quantum theory while the other is merely classical. That is why, for the last 100 years, a theory of [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity (QG)]] has been seen as the holy grail of theoretical physics. Unfortunately despite a century of effort, no one has shown exactly how to quantize gravity. But quantizing gravity must occur because nature cannot be half classical and half quantum. So the ultimate theory of QG remains physics’ top priority.”
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We have the same thing in Economics. Dale Jorgensen was a [[Knarc|Cnark]]. He was also chairman of the Harvard Economics Deparment.
We have the same thing in Economics. Dale Jorgensen was a [[Knarc|Cnark]]. He was also chairman of the Harvard Economics Deparment.


We have this in physics with the [[Quantum Gravity]] crowd. The [[The Only Game in Town|“We are the only game in town.”]] is the tell. It’s transparent.  
We have this in physics with the [[Quantum Gravity]] crowd. The [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“We are the only game in town.”]] is the tell. It’s transparent.  


We had it at the Lancet and Nature with the woke shaming on racism (covid origins) and transphobia (gender re-definition).  
We had it at the Lancet and Nature with the woke shaming on racism (covid origins) and transphobia (gender re-definition).  
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VI) Adults who would never discuss the Tooth Fairy in public should not discuss alien equivalents of the Tooth Fairy. Alien life and higher dimensions are both super serious subjects to me. And they would be too you too if this wasn’t made into a cheap farce. Space opera is just dumping cognitive sludge in the middle of a central scientific question. And I don’t take kindly to it.  
VI) Adults who would never discuss the Tooth Fairy in public should not discuss alien equivalents of the Tooth Fairy. Alien life and higher dimensions are both super serious subjects to me. And they would be too you too if this wasn’t made into a cheap farce. Space opera is just dumping cognitive sludge in the middle of a central scientific question. And I don’t take kindly to it.  


VII) I personally believe there are 4+6=10 =(d**2 + d)/2 for d=1+3 additional dimensions available for travel. But that would make **US**
.humans
.just as interdimensional as alien life. And we don’t evaluate any such ideas for our own travel. We just run out the clock listening to decades of the same 20 Octogenarians and Septuagenarians discussing how they are going to solve [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] when they grow up. And we let them destroy all competitors so they can take down the field of theoretical physics and die in piece pretending they were the [[The Only Game in Town|“Only Game In Town”]]. Which is total pure unadulterated anti-scientific bullshit. Think about it.  
VII) I personally believe there are 4+6=10 =(d**2 + d)/2 for d=1+3 additional dimensions available for travel. But that would make **US**
.humans
.just as interdimensional as alien life. And we don’t evaluate any such ideas for our own travel. We just run out the clock listening to decades of the same 20 Octogenarians and Septuagenarians discussing how they are going to solve [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] when they grow up. And we let them destroy all competitors so they can take down the field of theoretical physics and die in piece pretending they were the [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“Only Game In Town”]]. Which is total pure unadulterated anti-scientific bullshit. Think about it.  


VIII) Nobody but nobody is this dumb. Not even the government on its worst day. This is national security cognitive sludge being dumped into science. We are 40+ years into a string theory fairy tale about [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] without asking “Is this all bullshit?”
VIII) Nobody but nobody is this dumb. Not even the government on its worst day. This is national security cognitive sludge being dumped into science. We are 40+ years into a string theory fairy tale about [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] without asking “Is this all bullshit?”
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|usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein
|usernameurl=https://x.com/EricRWeinstein
|username=EricRWeinstein
|username=EricRWeinstein
|content=Wow @grok. That was like just before [[String Theory]] took over, and the field suddenly veered to studying the [[The Only Game in Town|“Only Game In Town”]].  
|content=Wow @grok. That was like just before [[String Theory]] took over, and the field suddenly veered to studying the [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“Only Game In Town”]].  


Sounds like the USG had a problem with a “Streisand Effect” before it was called that. Am I just wrong about this?
Sounds like the USG had a problem with a “Streisand Effect” before it was called that. Am I just wrong about this?
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|content=Well I wanna hit you with a truly crazy idea @grok.  
|content=Well I wanna hit you with a truly crazy idea @grok.  


Here is the idea. The appearance of [[String Theory|String-Theory]]/M-theory as [[The Only Game in Town|“The Only Game in Town” (TOGIT)]] has no precedence. How can a failed theory that can’t make contact with the physical world over more than 40 years be TOGIT?  
Here is the idea. The appearance of [[String Theory|String-Theory]]/M-theory as [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The Only Game in Town” (TOGIT)]] has no precedence. How can a failed theory that can’t make contact with the physical world over more than 40 years be TOGIT?  


That doesn’t make any sense to me. Why aren’t we looking to people with relevant PhDs or training and asking “We have been listening to the same 10 people for 4 decades. Why aren’t we asking if anyone *else* has crazy ideas that aren’t [[String Theory]]/M-theory/[[Quantum Gravity]]?”
That doesn’t make any sense to me. Why aren’t we looking to people with relevant PhDs or training and asking “We have been listening to the same 10 people for 4 decades. Why aren’t we asking if anyone *else* has crazy ideas that aren’t [[String Theory]]/M-theory/[[Quantum Gravity]]?”
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@kagankans / @WSJ
@kagankans / @WSJ


You just showed the world why [[Quantum Gravity]]/[[String Theory|StringTheory/M-Theory]] is [[The Only Game in Town|“The Only Game in Town”]]:
You just showed the world why [[Quantum Gravity]]/[[String Theory|StringTheory/M-Theory]] is [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The Only Game in Town”]]:


Group Bullying *Kills* Scientific Dissent
Group Bullying *Kills* Scientific Dissent
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[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Wrong Exit]] (Spacetime SUSY with fake super partners which dont exist based on supposedlu “internal” auxiliary symmetries)
[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Wrong Exit]] (Spacetime SUSY with fake super partners which dont exist based on supposedlu “internal” auxiliary symmetries)


III) And then the massive massive massive screw up was allowing the totalizing madness of [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] to take over HEP-TH as if it were [[The Only Game in Town|“The Only Game In Town”]] and letting its leadership brainwash the up and coming talent into believing that there was one true path. Totally insane.
III) And then the massive massive massive screw up was allowing the totalizing madness of [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] to take over HEP-TH as if it were [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)|“The Only Game In Town”]] and letting its leadership brainwash the up and coming talent into believing that there was one true path. Totally insane.


[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Right Freeway]]: GR and SM must be harmonized.</br>  
[[Right Freeway, Wrong Exit|Right Freeway]]: GR and SM must be harmonized.</br>  
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* [[Standard Model]]
* [[Standard Model]]
* [[String Theory]]
* [[String Theory]]
* [[The Only Game in Town]]
* [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)]]
* [[The Secret History of Anti-Gravity and Quantum Gravity Research]]
* [[The Secret History of Anti-Gravity and Quantum Gravity Research]]
* [[Theory of Geometric Unity]]
* [[Theory of Geometric Unity]]
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