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'''Eric Weinstein'''  36:56   
'''Eric Weinstein'''  36:56   
What do you think accounts? Like One of my earliest memories of schools in first grade? I am thrown out of first grade. Bye, Mrs. Buck era, Mrs. Buck euro is incensed, because I have claimed that a spider is not an insect, and she is convinced that it is an insect. And that I am. I'm an idiot, I am disruptive. I have an authoritarian, anti authoritarian, complex, something blah, blah, blah. And I'm humiliated and forced to sit outside of the class. But first of all, maybe we should talk about our differences in ages. I'm 55, you?
What do you think accounts? Like, one of my earliest memories of school is in first grade—I am thrown out of first grade by Mrs. Buckiero, Mrs. Buckiero is incensed, because I have claimed that a spider is not an insect, and she is convinced that it is an insect and that I am an idiot, I am disruptive, I have an anti-authoritarian, complex, something blah, blah, blah. And I'm humiliated and forced to sit outside of the class. But first of all, maybe we should talk about our differences in ages. I'm 55, you?


'''Jacob Chastain'''  37:41   
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'''Eric Weinstein'''  37:43   
'''Eric Weinstein'''  37:43   
Okay. So, interestingly, education changed a bit, probably over 25 years. But my mom comes to pick me up after the kids are induced to humiliate me for being an idiot for thinking that a spider is not an insect. I asked my mom on the way home, I'm crying, I think holding back tears, you know, like, what do I have wrong that I think it's an arachnid. And she says, My dear, don't take this the wrong way. But your teacher is and is an idiot. Your teachers a moron. Now, I didn't always have the best relationship with my own parents. And by the way, here's my experience walking to school was that I, I think I walked to school from like, first grade or something like that. And I remember there was a tunnel under Third Street, where weirdos and drug addicts would hang out and they would spray paint, the mirrors that eventually got put in and they'd harass the little kids. And the urine was just I mean, it was a really scary walk to school. So I think you have to just appreciate that the time was very different children were given ridiculous levels of autonomy and responsibility, which doesn't seem to be the case. After a time Pat's goes on the milk cartons and the missing children bring all the kids inside. In my era, school fights were very, very regular. You were expected to have gotten into several fist fights. I know that many of my millennial friends have never been in a single fistfight. And teachers were absolutely brutal and they would humiliate students and there was no thought that this was abnormal. So part of what I remember is being humiliated for getting things right, being humiliated for not being compliant. And the thing that I want to emphasize is that my recollection of this is that it was wall to wall there was no break in the phalanx. There wasn't a teacher who said, Look, I understand you, I get you. I mean, I I'm still in contact with Mr. Mickelson. He was very decent. I liked him a lot. But when it came to instruction he had to, he had to screw me over. There was just no two ways about it. Anything else was unfair. So I'm very curious as to is this Texas versus California? Is this my experience in the 1970s? versus yours? When in the 1990s?
Okay. So, interestingly, education changed a bit, probably over 25 years. But my mom comes to pick me up after the kids are induced to humiliate me for being an idiot for thinking that a spider is not an insect. I asked my mom on the way home—I'm crying, I think, holding back tears, you know—like, "what do I have wrong that I think it's an arachnid?" And she says, "My dear, don't take this the wrong way, but your teacher is an idiot. Your teacher is a moron." Now, I didn't always have the best relationship with my own parents. And by the way, here's my experience walking to school was that I, I think I walked to school from like, first grade or something like that. And I remember there was a tunnel under Third Street, where weirdos and drug addicts would hang out and they would spray paint, the mirrors that eventually got put in and they'd harass the little kids. And the urine was just I mean, it was a really scary walk to school. So I think you have to just appreciate that the time was very different children were given ridiculous levels of autonomy and responsibility, which doesn't seem to be the case. After a time Pat's goes on the milk cartons and the missing children bring all the kids inside. In my era, school fights were very, very regular. You were expected to have gotten into several fist fights. I know that many of my millennial friends have never been in a single fistfight. And teachers were absolutely brutal and they would humiliate students and there was no thought that this was abnormal. So part of what I remember is being humiliated for getting things right, being humiliated for not being compliant. And the thing that I want to emphasize is that my recollection of this is that it was wall to wall there was no break in the phalanx. There wasn't a teacher who said, Look, I understand you, I get you. I mean, I I'm still in contact with Mr. Mickelson. He was very decent. I liked him a lot. But when it came to instruction he had to, he had to screw me over. There was just no two ways about it. Anything else was unfair. So I'm very curious as to is this Texas versus California? Is this my experience in the 1970s? versus yours? When in the 1990s?


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And that is it for this episode. Ladies and gentlemen, I hope you hear the excitement in my voice because what a conversation what a talk what a deep dive. This is everything I ever wanted this podcast to be and with your help. We can continue having great people like this on the podcast bringing the heat so to speak bringing these educational conference to the next level, you know, he mentioned in the talk that teaching teachers about, you know, best practices and stuff like that. But there's there's a middle ground here toward teaching teachers, I think uniquely supported by some of the most passionate educators on the planet. And I think we can keep having our feel good episodes and keep having our best practice episodes, and diving more and more into conversations like this, where we're not just paying lip service to education and serving students. But we are actually fighting for the change that we want having complicated discussions that take longer than 30 minute chunks or hour chunks or whatever. really diving deep. So if you enjoyed this episode, if you're new to the podcast, whether you're coming from Eric's audience, or you just found it because it was trending somewhere, welcome. We publish episodes every single Monday without fail. Most episodes are done in two parts. But like I said, at the top of this, this is not an episode that you split into parts. And it was a special occasion for the 200. So I thank you guys for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review hit that start button in any of your podcast app. It really does help share this episode. With people everywhere I respond to nearly every dm or email I get if I don't it's because I looked at it and then I got distracted somewhere else. So feel free to message me again. Let's get this conversation started. Let's bring on some more people a gentleman hit that subscribe button. If you want to check out my personal work you can do so on amazon.com You can find my book teaching teachers my personal memoir, where I share a lot of the stories and more of what I talked about in this episode. And really, it's my love story to public education. So if you want to check that out, I would be grateful for those of you who do that. Thank you for listening to this podcast shout out to Hyman for sponsoring this podcast. And as always, ladies, gentlemen, have a good one.
And that is it for this episode. Ladies and gentlemen, I hope you hear the excitement in my voice because what a conversation what a talk what a deep dive. This is everything I ever wanted this podcast to be and with your help. We can continue having great people like this on the podcast bringing the heat so to speak bringing these educational conference to the next level, you know, he mentioned in the talk that teaching teachers about, you know, best practices and stuff like that. But there's there's a middle ground here toward teaching teachers, I think uniquely supported by some of the most passionate educators on the planet. And I think we can keep having our feel good episodes and keep having our best practice episodes, and diving more and more into conversations like this, where we're not just paying lip service to education and serving students. But we are actually fighting for the change that we want having complicated discussions that take longer than 30 minute chunks or hour chunks or whatever. really diving deep. So if you enjoyed this episode, if you're new to the podcast, whether you're coming from Eric's audience, or you just found it because it was trending somewhere, welcome. We publish episodes every single Monday without fail. Most episodes are done in two parts. But like I said, at the top of this, this is not an episode that you split into parts. And it was a special occasion for the 200. So I thank you guys for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review hit that start button in any of your podcast app. It really does help share this episode. With people everywhere I respond to nearly every dm or email I get if I don't it's because I looked at it and then I got distracted somewhere else. So feel free to message me again. Let's get this conversation started. Let's bring on some more people a gentleman hit that subscribe button. If you want to check out my personal work you can do so on amazon.com You can find my book teaching teachers my personal memoir, where I share a lot of the stories and more of what I talked about in this episode. And really, it's my love story to public education. So if you want to check that out, I would be grateful for those of you who do that. Thank you for listening to this podcast shout out to Hyman for sponsoring this podcast. And as always, ladies, gentlemen, have a good one.


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