Paul Samuelson

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2009

I should say that the idea that Gauge Theory would bring field theory to economics was any easy sell to Samuelson. The details never took.

2:59 AM · Dec 14, 2009

"One must not expect to be able to make the naive measurements that untutored common sense always longs for." -P. Samuelson (w/ Swamy) 1974

3:23 AM · Dec 14, 2009

"[W]e must not be bemused by the undoubted elegances...of the homothetic theory. Nor should we shoot the honest theorist." -Samuelson&Swamy

3:25 AM · Dec 14, 2009

Paul Samuelson told me these lines of his would ward off any detractors who did not understand what Lie groups and gauge theory could solve.

3:27 AM · Dec 14, 2009

I think many scientists would have found Paul Samuelson a formidable fellow scientist, technically knowledgable far beyond economics. I did.

3:32 AM · Dec 14, 2009


“Would you bet a cigar on that?” -John Von Neumann cowing Paul Samuelson

10:38 PM · Dec 15, 2009

"Some day when I pass through St Peter’s Gates I do think I have 1/2 a cigar still coming to me" -P Samuelson now looking for J von Neumann

10:42 PM · Dec 15, 2009


.@riemannzeta: Samuelson's economics is to Newtonian physics what gauge theoretic economics is to Einstein/Yang-Mills http://bit.ly/PSINAE

4:27 PM · Dec 22, 2009

2010

In Samuelson's Nobel lecture, he struggles with integrability. I wish there was more there as curvature tensors measure it's failure.

12:37 PM · Feb 4, 2010


How crazy is economic gauge theory? Paul Samuelson liked it because he was looking for it in 1950(!): http://bit.ly/c6vILI (e.g. see fig 4).

2:58 AM · Aug 4, 2010

2021


@swede_irish I don’t know what those words mean at a *technical* level. I get what they are meant to suggest, obviously. But I don’t think that is what CPI-U actually is in a meaningful technical way.

6:21 AM · Nov 8, 2021

@swede_irish Wow. Uh. If I don’t, who does? E Diewert? B Balk? Who?

6:52 AM · Nov 8, 2021

@swede_irish As for “Stay in your lane”
ha. Economists should listen. May I recommend “Economic Imperialism”?

No thanks. No one should put up with expert arrogance masquerading as understanding. I freely admitted I don’t understand CPI-U. You pretended that you did. That’s not worth much..

7:01 AM · Nov 8, 2021

@swede_irish I am going to sleep soon. But I spent years trying to understand what economists thought they were doing. I came to the conclusion that they didn’t know themselves. And they were often forced to admit this based on technical questioning. It’s not that they have this down solidly.

7:12 AM · Nov 8, 2021

@swede_irish “More heat than light” is PM’s book which is fairly idiosyncratic, but has the right flavor. Samuelson’s Nobel lecture on integrability is another source. Von Weitzacker is yet another source admitting the issues from within the field: you can’t restrict welfare theory as we do.

7:31 AM · Nov 8, 2021

2022

Well let us give economists their due.

The most cogent economists on the subject of price indices include:

Bert M Balk (Statistics Netherlands)
Carl Christian von WeizsÀcker
Paul Samuelson and S Swamy
Amartya Sen
Franklin Fisher and Karl Shell
and Erwin Diewert (very uneven).

11:53 PM · May 10, 2022

I cannot be objective about my collaborator @PiaMalaney, but I can say that it would be a good idea to review her critique by the Boskin commissioners, who I found to represent the “Psst. Just tell us what you need the number to be and we can help you out.” school of economics.

11:59 PM · May 10, 2022

In short, there are economists who believe in measuring inflation, who struggle to understand the issues
and there are economists who work backwards from the political masters they serve. This is a rough guide to both camps.

The researchers tend to lose to the political types.

12:02 AM · May 11, 2022

2023


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