India
2009[edit]
Can someone point me to a video of Zakir Hussain or other N. Indian tabla player bringing an audience to a visibly extatic state? Thx.
"As you know, Africans are the unquestioned masters of rhythm." -a NYC Cafe patron who obviously needs to visit North India.
New Topic: Unwatchable India. I've tried to show you Bollywood at its best before. Now here's the dark side.
#5 Unwatchable India: If you were in India for the Disco era you love this. Otherwise, it's a disco dystopia: http://bit.ly/DiscoIndia
#4 Unwatchable India: You are invited to the Bar Mitzvah your mother warned you about. http://bit.ly/hDf4c
#3 Unwatchable India: The four most frightening words in Hindi? Bindu singing "Mera Naam Hai: Shabnam" http://bit.ly/YPAH7 [Kati Patang '70]
#2 Unwatchable India: "Eve Teasing" (Harassment) & Suicidal Idiation as 12Bar Blues...and up tempo. http://bit.ly/12BarBolly
#1 Unwatchable India: The Beatles sought karmic enlightenment and India knows just what to do w/ such nuttiness: http://bit.ly/HoldUrHath
2010[edit]
Talking mango with an Indian expert....is depressing. So many varietals, so little chance of being in the right region at the right time...
Are you fascinated by the art, skill and grace of pole dancing? We all are. Embarrased? Get over it: http://bit.ly/GQo7o (Indian Mallakhamb)
Even in conservative India, 3rd sex individuals figure more in popular culture than in the US. Hijras in Bollywood '77 http://bit.ly/cx7pi6
News Flash: Dirac Medal indicates Indian theorist G. Sudarshan has finally been detected & shown to exist (at least outside Stockholm)!
My top scholarly book explaining N. Indian Classical music went out of print. Online at: http://bit.ly/cKaKu0 (w/ Ram Narayan's audio files)
2011[edit]
A three ton floating Abelian variety (torus) has been sent by the creator to 91 E. St Clair St. Indianapolis, IN 46204 (Google streetview).
A giant Indiana levitating metal bagel: you can't explain that.
Oh wait: http://bit.ly/hfdLCb. Sorry Bill O'Reilly, it appears you can.
Indian conjurer & guru Sai Baba 2.0 dead at 84. He was the reincarnation of Sai Baba 1.0. India now awaits the modern 3.x series: Sci-Baba!
2016[edit]
Within a large circle of US Muslim friends, I don't know a single one who would support an imposition of Shariah law on anyone. #perspective
@omid More educated than wealthy. Authors, NGO workers, scientists. Writers. Finance folks. Policy wonks. Pakistan, Turkey, India, Egypt etc
There's an infinite SouthBay archipelago of Chaat restaurants, yet every Sunday I'm often the only white face. Indians: end Chaat apartheid!
@StephenGHubbard Just tried Mumbai Chowk in Newark: Not Bombay, but pretty good! Chaat Bhavan is good. Vik's in Berkeley is great too!
@chiranvj This is something the policemen guarding the big Menorah by the Gateway of India brought up w us. Otherwise I wouldn't have known.
2017[edit]
In my hand, the only argument I know that G.W. Bush was the *greatest* U.S. President: he unbanned western India's Alfonso(!) mango in '07. https://t.co/bbGvSdWoEV
Other cultures that changed me: A) Academic B) Indian C) Muslim D) Tech E) Musician F) Russian G) UK H) Israel I) Turkish J) Black
Yours?
It is bizarre to see our family's tiny Indian-Jewish community be made briefly visible by a historic state visit.
Rip. Uncle Jackie https://t.co/16RJXowSSv
2018[edit]
@benshapiro Ok. So: A) Hell yes. B) Hmm. I know the argument. But I think itās not a great one. Come to India to see what it looks like to live rich in a poor country: itās pretty rich & hard to impress locals w a TV yet no helicopter. C) Yes. For the most part thatās fair. But not totally.
@benshapiro Hey, thanks buddy. I agree with some but not all of your nuanced refinements above.
@saramayhew @benshapiro Hi Sara (Dude? Co-dude? Dudette?),
Do we know each other? I suspect not: https://t.co/T3YRLZdOVS
Best,
Eric
It is important to remember what progressivism was supposed to be about: progress.
Great to see this finally happening. Congratulations India!
Quick question (cry for help?): to New York City: I want to go for either great Noodle Kugel, Chaat, or Calcutta style Indian-Chinese in midtown Manhattan. Where do I go?
Thx in advance! And see you tonight. https://t.co/BRlbUKBsht
2019[edit]
It is entirely acceptable to decry how shitty & dumb Americans are at mathematics. Because itās totally untrue.
What we canāt talk about is radical underperformance in math by Asians in a non-capital intensive subject perfect tailored for poorer nations:
@natanielruizg They use elegance as a weapon. Agreed.
@darrenmwong Have you ever been in Asia when one of its successful sons or daughters is recognized with an award from the west? Try again.
@thepericulum Interesting idea. Iām not willing to cede the idea that Asia canāt dominate Fields Medal level mathematics. It will require cultural shifts, but thatās what I mean by math. How fast you can do triple integrals is irrelevant to me. And will soon be irrelevant to everyone, I think.
@michaeldemoore This is interesting in India which since the time of Nehru decided to bet on Tertiary education. TIFR and the IIT are VERY impressive. But wait until India really comes on line. Itās going to be shock and awe. It hasnāt happened yet, but mark my words.
@thepericulum @huffmsa This is an excellent point up to some threshold. Beyond that memorization takes an opportunity cost that is hard to pay back. Same is true for poetry. We in the west should memorize more and the east perhaps less.
@anshuman981 @darrenmwong Disagree. India for example is insanely proud of its scientists. It just wants to know you will have a high prestige well paying job. Like Jewish mothers. https://t.co/s4SMgrKHvy
@thepericulum Thank you for being a Mensch. My tweet was so counter narrative that it shocked me a bit as well. Thanks for your thoughtful interactions and insights. Good game sir!
@RomanGriffen @MsMelChen This is totally untrue.
@ricky_atodaso @MsMelChen Correct. But it should explain a bit more about the connection to symmetry groups and group representations.
A little help from my Sub-Continental Twitter friends please: who is doing renegade long form interviews and commentary in English on tricky topics in India as well as Nepal, Pakistan, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka? Could be YT or Podcasts in English. Does it exist in Hindi? Bengali?
There is a remarkable building in South East India that should be known to more people. It is claimed to contain the worldās largest āoptically perfectā glass globe to receive directed sunlight.
Under construction for 37 yrs, it is called the Matrimandir: https://t.co/PmbyNIOcVN
@Amber_Bamberz I saw it during the long wait for its completion. Would love to go back!
2/ Iām then not aware of any place on the web to discuss matters which is meaningfully private under this rubric. I seem to need an ISP to get on the web and the tech platforms are corporate. There is no analog of a public street leading to a public square. Itās all nonpublic.
1/ Why I no longer see tech platforms as simply private companies.
Let me begin w/ a definition.
A Public Web Forum is a platform reachable without any private/corporate provider being traversed in the process. Then a forum is *meaningfully private* if & only if PWFs exist.
End/ Assuming this is right, I call either for creation of the first meaningfully private American Web Forums in advance of the 2020 election via the creation of at least one High Quality American Public Web Forum or, in an emergency, the use of law to appropriate such space.š
3/ I also define a web forum to be American (or British or Indian...) if it does NOT inherit legal issues from other nations in which one has no vote or say that violate its founding documents. That is ANY platform paying attention to Pakistani blasphemy laws is NOT American.
If you are young and have never been to India: go.
There has been nothing like it for me. I donāt even attempt to calculate its impact on my life. https://t.co/0Qj1J4f8NH
@aliisakroe Honest answer: donāt travel as a solo female.
I love India, but you have to see how completely different it is. It can be both more advanced & more screwed up.
If youāve never heard the phrase āEve teasingā look that up. Youāll let India show you more if you donāt go solo.
@MatthewGalanty Bring it.
@kiani_rumbo Shh.
@Shredderroy Ha. Letās start with smells.
@KUnewie <35. Of course if you are older than it can also do a lot to change you. But for a young person itās quite clearly transformational for many.
I frigginā loved Dick Dale. RIP
But his greatest trick may have been sneaking the Indian Raga Hijaz Bhairav into American Surf Culture w/ its distinctive jump between the flat 2nd & major 3rd, once in Misirlou & a second time with a jacked up Hava Nagila: https://t.co/vvmB39kcVD
@DREWTRAME Itās pretty great.
@Na_Nreh I agree with this! The blues scale comes close based around the flat fifth as center, but it fails because the flat third and flat seventh are not perfect mirrors. Although all this wants to break out of even temperament.
As for Misirlou, no one knows who wrote it. Greeks? Turks? Jews? Indians? We all got claims:
Turkish/Muslim: https://t.co/igDTyv3egn Yiddish/Jewish: https://t.co/Hj20ONx040 GreeK/Christian: https://t.co/yIoTYmHjJY Indian/Hindu https://t.co/dtaMzZphhO
Tolerance pays a dividend.
One last point about the passing of Dick Dale.
I have no idea whether he was a Muslim, Christian, Druse or Jew as his father was from Lebanon and his mother Belorussian. Or all of the above.
Which is to say, we are all bound up in each other & are *all* here for the long haul.
Interesting to see who paints @joerogan as dumb. His charlatans & dullards include me. Fair. But other losers include Sir Roger Penrose, @seanmcarroll, @HeatherEHeying, @BretWeinstein, @SamHarrisOrg, @sapinker, @DrDebraSoh.
So tell us: which podcasts have the smart good people?
Fascinating analysis here of the @joerogan show with these gems of writing: https://slate.com/culture/2019/03/joe-rogans-podcast-is-an-essential-platform-for-freethinkers-who-hate-the-left.html
Canāt stand the heat, Eric? Good lord you put yourself out there, you get critiqued. It does not call you a dullard, although who cares if it did.
Ha! Thatās not it all Kara.
But you bring up an interesting point. Most all of the amazing people I know ācanāt stand the heatā (deliberate attacks, threats against family and smearing of their reputation) so they āget out of the kitchenā (retreat from public life and service).
What weāre left with is those who thrive in the heat. This is pure adverse selection with the extremophiles who prefer more heat than light deciding that the public sphere is theirs alone. Well..screw that. I donāt enjoy my stalkers and these hit pieces paint bullseyes with hate.
Read it again. Itās mildly critical and has some cogent points. You donāt have to agree but it is hardly stalker or hate.
Okay. Iāll do as you suggest. Hang on...
Okay. I re-read it. Here is my take:
A) The piece on its own is not the issue. Itās part of a growing literature that lives to paint heterodox dissenting center-Left voices as dreaded gateways to the āalt-rightā.
B) Youāre right about ādullardā. Itās annoying ... but so what.
Can we not do this here right now? Kara is engaging and Iām appreciating that. Thanks. š
C) Because the piece is āno differentā than a million other MSM articles, it seeks to create a perception of truth by perseveration. That is, I introduced the IDW, so I know what it is & there isnāt a real Trump supporter in it. Yet our echo chamber repeats it into ātruthā. Why?
Thanks. Since you donāt follow me I canāt contact you without going through our mutual friends. May I ask you to DM me your email or mobile? Iāll be happy to send you mine.
D) There are a lot of proximity attacks. Alex Jones belongs in one of Joeās buckets of guests. But Roger Penrose is in a *totally* different bucket. As was Tulsi Gabbard. Or Bari Weiss. I mean the whole š goes through that studio yet the MSM fixates on āOMG! He Talked to Milo!!ā
Agree w/ you both. I actually want some Overton window. But if I canāt even discuss the *reasonable* reasons on MSM why 1/2 the US is so pissed off that it sent a wild ācan you hear me nowā message in 2016, weāre going to get another larger middle finger in 2020. We need to talk.
E) Lastly, as Joeās guest, I get to discuss paying women more for kin work, North Indian classical music, sexual mimicry in cephalopods, gauge theory, cross-harp blues harmonica & a world of topics no one gets to touch!
Kara I reread. Can you watch this: https://t.co/D5YdHy0ddP?
Kara? Any reaction?
Will get back to you on dm or in person. Coffee on me
@jerrylieb12 Nah. Not a cop out. Iām a fan of coffee first. Iām not out to fight Kara for anyoneās amusement. I want to figure out if we even disagree first, and if so, on what issues. I have no need to nurse my grounds for a grudge with anyone.
Thanks Kara. Hope youāve been well.
Just jammed. Will ping you when I am back in SF mid month
Looking forward to it.
@clairlemon Claire, Iām genuinely confused by what youāre saying. I for example donāt use the āclassical liberalā label almost at all. So thereās a fad of young adults calling themselves āprogressivesā who fight against progress & for racism/sexism if the targets are flipped. Are you buying?
@clairlemon Letās try a different approach. Think of an occupied country & a resistance w/ a government in exile. Would Gandhi have been a jilted lover if he didnāt accept the British Raj as Indian? Would DeGaulle be delusional? Ben-Gurion? Mandela? Gazans?
I think you may be in error here.
@clairlemon Iām okay however that youāre working this out for yourself. Good for you! Happy to discuss or perhaps even debate it with you.
But you are certainly not speaking for those of us who both very much believe in structural injustice, as well as in wildly exaggerated claims thereof.
@safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @clairlemon I do at least initially, but many want conflict. And I donāt see you particularly trying to understand those you are choosing to profile and analyze. You seem instead intent on pushing irregularly shaped pegs into more regularly shaped holes. It is interesting to watch however.
@clairlemon Interesting. I do wonder if you would have thought Soviet Communism, the 1000 year Reich, the Late Sixties, Thatcherism, the Red Scares, the Great Leap Forward, prohibition or the Reagan Revolution a permanent state of affairs.
What gives you confidence that this is permanent?
@AlexRussek @clairlemon Letās be clearer then. This is an outbreak of activist tactics that will never completely go away. There will be recurrent outbreaks. But outbreaks vary in severity and duration and spacing.
@safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @clairlemon I grew up around Social Justice. Thatās not what needs to be explained. Itās always had ideas.
Iām talking about the new cultlike thing. The thing that has to attack people and groups rather than engaging ideas w/ better ones. The thing that has to manufacture oppression.
@safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @clairlemon For example, I want you to focus on the difference between people who think we have to protect the rights of trans folks versus the people who get giddy from the delight of intimidating scientists to derange our biological sense of natural and sexual selection. Why is this good?
@safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @clairlemon What does a person who supports moderate non-cynical immigration get out of talking to āopen bordersā advocates who think nation states are immoral? What does a rational Islamophile or Muslim get from talking to someone who claims that simple terror statistics are Islamophobic?
@safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @clairlemon Assume I believe anti-Muslim, anti-Trans, anti-Gay, anti-Woman, anti-black bigotry, etc.. exist & must be dismantled. Assume I get SocJus.
What does the *new* modern variant pushing sexism, racism, anti-semitism, guilt & shame offer except misery and a coming far right backlash?
@safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @clairlemon Donāt sell me on injustice. I bought in long ago.
You are making a case that there are ideas here. Not anti-ideas that blow up real ideas but actual insights that can be explored. Not tactics to take out institutions.
Well...What are they? Perhaps I just havenāt heard them yet.
@safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @clairlemon Assume I already get that some gender fluidity is highly conserved and that some of gender is socially constructed. Assume I got that a million years ago. What is the function of pretending that all gender and sex in a k-selected species is abiological and socially constructed?
@safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @clairlemon Where is any real payoff coming from taking social justice and making it bigoted, anti-science, anti-free Speech, radically relativistic, non constructive, blood thirsty, authoritarian, intolerant and utopian?
Where does the benefit of the āupgradeā to cultlike behavior reside?
@safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @clairlemon I donāt see desires to have conversations. We had that before. What seems new is the desire to have activists teach āactivist biologyā to undo scientific biology taught in science departments. Iām sitting on a specific request: whatās new here thatās both rigorous & constructive?
@safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @clairlemon Uri weāre not progressing intellectually here. My contention is that social justice had an update pushed out. The issue isnāt āsocial justiceā, but that the update was extremist. The reasonable stuff was there before. The update was to make it authoritarian, bigoted, and vicious.
@clairlemon Well, I am agreeing that it is unlikely to be a short lived two year craze like the hula hoop. But then I also treat political Fads (e.g. Stalinism, McCarthyism) as longer lived than consumer Fads. I donāt think this affair with madness, relativism and crypto Marxism can last.
@clairlemon @safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast Iām lost. Iām having insane non-conversations with people who claim things like āmath is culturally constructed as a tool of the patriarchy.ā
Itās like assuming we have to listen to the most accomplished fortune tellers, terrorists & leading theorists of the flat earth society.
@clairlemon @safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast If there are proponents of the new weaponized SocJus movement who have something to discuss rather than demand, shout, proclaim or threaten, Iām not aware of it. Non-weaponized SocJus Iām behind. But the issue *is* weaponization. Are there folks willing to rationally discuss it?
@clairlemon @safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast Okay! Letās make a list of *current*-wave social justice thinkers who refuse to hurl epithets at those who engage rationally, respectfully, constructively and who refuse to support charges of bigotry, sexism, racism etc. when thatās not whatās going on.
Who are we talking about?
@clairlemon @safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast A lot of @davidpakmanshow seems reasonable. Some of @ggreenwald & @ezraklein as well. I can be a bit of a sucker for @monaeltahawy. But, the glee of SJWs trying to ruin people is what keeps me away.
I mean, IDW has a pretty reasonable progressive wing. Itās just short the SJWs.
@clairlemon @razibkhan @safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @ZaidJilani @JeffreyASachs @MattPolProf Iāll start following them. Thanks.
@gorakaunhai @clairlemon @safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @davidpakmanshow @ggreenwald @ezraklein @monaeltahawy @SamHarrisOrg A portion of Glennās thinking i find quite reasonable. As is a portion of Ezraās. I donāt think @SamHarrisOrg would have engaged if it werenāt. The problem is not understanding what flips the switch into misportrayal and worse. Thatās the weird part nobody outside SocJus gets.
@NitantSaga @clairlemon @safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @davidpakmanshow @ggreenwald @ezraklein @monaeltahawy Why do real boxers not fight gang members in street fights? Dunno. Itās about rules.
Chomsky is different. Glenn is at times fair. Ezra often enough.
But nobody wants to fight under idiotic conditions and lose body parts. And I wouldnāt fight anyone who earlier bit off an ear.
@StephenRowe0 @clairlemon @safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast Thatās my point. There is no reasonable suicide bombing community. No solipsistic community.
Thatās not my problem. That there is no non-weaponized pro weaponization community is someone elseās problem. If it were there, Iād talk to it.
@SamHarrisOrg @gorakaunhai @clairlemon @safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @davidpakmanshow @ggreenwald @ezraklein @monaeltahawy Well, that sounds like the thing I donāt get either. Itās as if you touch some invisible wire and the style of interaction totally changes character.
Letās say you mention something about skewness v kurtosis of some distribution and suddenly you are being tarred as a bigot.
@dpakman @SamHarrisOrg @gorakaunhai @clairlemon @safeortrue @amanda_fawkes @Timcast @davidpakmanshow @ggreenwald @ezraklein @monaeltahawy Well, Iām a fan of much of what I hear from you. Not always in agreement mind you, but I think you have many thoughtful perspectives. And I think you are generally striving to be fair, some bad takes on the IDW not withstanding. But you donāt seem to me to be of the current wave.
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Forgive my ToS violation, but I feel about those targeting Israel like Indiana Jones does about Nazis
@AviGeller @benshapiro Amen brother.
US classical music IS jazz. The extent to which it was invented by Louis Armstrong, Jelly Roll Morton, Charlie Parker...
Oh for fucks sake.
Sure NPR. Charles Ives, Carl Ruggles and Lou Harrison made sure no one ever heard of Bird, Dizzy & Miles. Uh huh. https://t.co/GRPTrCIkFP
I apologize, but Iāve just had it. The entire planet is in awe of African American genius in this area. This is not just artistic, but analytic and spiritual innovation of the highest order. Letās talk finally about incontrovertible black genius for a change. No apologies needed.
@mpauldaniels Look, I donāt even know where to begin. The right term isnāt even āclassical musicā but āart musicā.
And Jazz is high high art.
@neshelman Oscar. āNuff said!
@deathbycontent Might I attempt to disagree? We speak of North Indian Classical music. In what way is that illegitimate? Would you focus us instead on Parsis like Zubin Mehta as being Indian classical music? Likewise TĆ¼rk sanat mĆ¼ziÄi would be āart musicā built around Turkic idioms. Am I wrong?
@deathbycontent No, Iāll stand my ground here. By world music standards, the art music or āclassical musicā of the United States is Jazz just as Turkey and North India have their own non uniquely European classical and art music traditions. Feel free to disagree.
@deathbycontent I think we seem to be pretty agreed. No?
A new account has arisen. Strauss had a great run while the esoteric/exoteric communication theory lasted. Those were the days my friend.
As a response, I will be moving to posting influencer selfies on Instagram as my new major form of communication:
@rahusphere @ShashiTharoor Would love to introduce my mostly Western Audiences to more Indian and sub-continental themes and issues.
@BadHombreMarcoB Totes.
2020[edit]
People Iām dying to have on The Portal: @SrBachchan. Iām over 50 so there are no dreams too large anymore.
One of my favorite songs of all time from Laawaris in 1981:
I have heard second hand that he is passionate about science or at least very interested. I have no idea if this is true but I would love to discuss aspects of science with him if that were of interest.
Think of what could be done for so many if done at his scale...
@kevalshah90 @SrBachchan Just imagine.
@alchemyintel @SrBachchan I love him so much in this. So cool.
@Likhith_10 @SrBachchan Ha!
Answer: Billions.
@PreeteshShivam @SrBachchan Beats Yeh Dosti. And I love that one too...
@BabaBairaagi @SrBachchan Iād be thrown off Twitter. One politically incorrect verse after another...
Note that the song comes from (UP?) folklore and is featured elsewhere in cinema. I just love his version though. That swagger despite how offensive it is.
Check this out for comparison. Also great:
@iam100rabhs @SrBachchan @iamsrk One preposterous dream at a time.
I love SRK. What a multitalented and decent seeming man.
@curiousgazelle @SrBachchan I LOVE Hindi (and Urdu too!) but I struggle to learn them and lose all gains when I am away from it. At my peak I could use it to fumble around a city or to pick through songs and poems w a dictionary. Last times I had to use it were in Spain & Italy with Bangladeshi immigrants.
@DavidParr1980 Oh my. What a ride that would be. Love to discuss his total arc.
@coreyadamfisher Welcome anytime.
@SidSthalekar @SrBachchan It would take too long.
@dotelsaramsz @abpaudel @SrBachchan Are you mad?? No ą¤¬ą„ą¤µą„ would approve of this song!
Lastly, someone put the wrong audio over the first video I grabbed and I didnāt listen to it before using that version. My bad.
Try this link which I think is the correct one:
@eigenbros Too good!
@AlFuckingPacino @SrBachchan Sirf teen merra dost. ;-)
@MotwaniSuhas @SidSthalekar @SrBachchan Honestly?? Iām kinda bummed that my south Asian brothers and sisters arenāt listening and watching in large numbers. More people are listening in Sweden and Germany than India for example. I need yāall to come out for me. Iād love to do my favorite Bollywood songs for example.
@_wistfull @SrBachchan Itās weird. I didnāt listen to the Audio before I used the link. The video is correct with some other audio. But the Laawaris version is also a ācoverā of a folk song...albeit a great one!
@iam100rabhs @SrBachchan India has transformed me since I fell in love with her around age 20.
@hp_heisenberg @SrBachchan Well, where are you all? You are very quiet. Iād love to do more.
@devangbaheti @SrBachchan Yep.
@amandbrar From finding an entire world called India at age 20 on my first trip there with my best friend from college who is from Bombay (Chembur).
@ashishkjames99 @MotwaniSuhas @SidSthalekar @SrBachchan Get me @bipsluvurself or Aishwarya and Iāll release the video within a day.
Finally saw @MiraPagliNair's "The Namesake" made from Jhumpa Lahiri's story. What a hauntingly beautiful film.
It's a very small picture; there are really only three main characters. Yet it's so well done as a tale about the Indian American experience that it will just grip you.
My #JewishPrivilege: Iāve never spent a night hungry. There was always a roof over our heads. Never went to jail or onto food stamps. First cousin froze to death escaping Babi Yar. Attended the top school in Los Angeles. My cousins Eva & Miriam Kor were a Mengle Twin experiment.
One college Grandparent. Became well known. Constantly deluged by antiSemitic messages & comments, many threatening. Have a steady job. Have anti-Semitic stalkers, some who have showed up at my work place and who threaten my wife/children w/ explicit bodily harm. #JewishPrivilege
Never went to synagogue without checking the exits. Went to two Ivies. Threatening graffiti scrawled on my sonās Jewish day school. Grew up in a well-to-do LA neighborhood...Around neighbors that hated & bullied us and had restricted āconvenantsā to keep us out. #JewishPrivilege
Our Bombay familyās tiny & vulnerable Jewish Community had the honor of defiantly celebrating Chanukah as sitting ducks at the Gateway of India with our 6 & 3 year olds, days after anti-Semitic Pakistani terrorists targeted Chabad killing Rabbi Holzberg & his pregnant wife Rivka.
Anyone who refers to Jews as having āWhite Privilegeā as in āabove the real problemsā is either:
A) Ignorant of history and one book away from understanding the honest error. B) An idiot. C) An out and out anti-Semite.
Yes, some of us are now doing ok.
Yet itās never for long.
So, if you want to know where this cashes out: We have *finally* become mildly well to do. Precarious, but more fortunate than many.
The word āPrivilegeā makes me laugh however. Every person who has Jews they know and love, knows the truth: we are always simply between pogroms.
Come from Seamstresses & Used Clothing salesmen. One grandmother Rose escaped Pogrom in Mogilev Podolsky. Grandfather Schmelik escaped execution by spooking a Cossackās horse. Great grandma Becky left Vladimiretz before they would have killed her in the 1934 pogrom pictured here:
My father proudly attended MLKās March on Washington. My grandparents stood for Coal Miners against their murderous slaver bosses. My mom as a kid proudly shook the enormous gentle hand of the Great Paul Robeson. My brother gave up an Ivy League education to defend Black women.
Why do I oppose #BlackLivesMatter when I am committed to Black Lives Mattering and an end to structural oppression? Because you canāt call a community more vulnerable than even Blacks āgenocidalā in your platform. Israel has issues, but āgenocideā is like modern blood libel.
Cards on the table: Iām in awe of Black *achievement* and am shocked by desires to tell others like us that weāre all fine because we are pink and may finally have 2 sheckles to rub together. Our two communities donāt belong in the oppression Olympics. Weāre both superachievers.
But as you see we are open that things have gotten much better for us. As they have for you. Yes 1865 is more recent than others imagine. So is 1945. Yes lynchings are horrific. So are pogroms. You face structural oppression. So do we. Your pain is invisible to many. Ours too.
And this is why so many of us Left leaning Jews are so confused by our black brothers and sisters. We see your pain. We see the invisible bigotry against you. We saw the FBIās war on your community. We fought along side you based on your reasoned grievances. For almost 100 years.
And as an American Jew, Iāve every right to speak my mind to say this truth. Thatās #AmericanPrivilege. I love my country despite many wrongs it did & continues to do to my family & community because of what it has done & now does *for* all of us.
So Iām done tearing it apart.š
So why did I write this? Because there are communities who have lost more & have done so even more recently that are actively targeted by BlackLivesMatter. And frankly the Yazidis are worse off than both of us. As were the Arabs Murdered in Sabra and Shatila. So letās be real.
So letās cut the crap. We have a deeply flawed country to fix & you can count on my support. But it isnāt as bad as it once was for Blacks or Jews & money doesnāt do as much as folks think in the face of murderous rage. Letās all ease up on āPrivilegeā as a way of avoiding this.
@brian_sack Amazing woman.
@EdMa31605945 With you.
@Kash_Kustomer Huh?
@MartinWS95 @Kash_Kustomer It is very hard to find people following the plot.
@SarthakaSingh @AmanAhm06689905 @KhurramHayatMa1 @BilalHarris17 @schaheid @IndiaToday Lucky Bastard! How did you do it?
Thank you India. For Rooh Afza and everything else. https://t.co/rYrmw26j6x
@gorakaunhai āThe Goraā?! Ha!
Prof @DrBrianKeating and I are taking a break from all the madness to discuss foundational physics research and where we are in figuring out reality.
Join us wonāt you? I promise you it will be better than the rest of 2020!
3pm Pacific. [We checked your schedule: youāre free!]
@indiapaleale99 @DrBrianKeating Constantly. Love @skdh.
In a heartbeat, I would make a pilgrimage if in the area.
Abdus Salam was a beacon from a very vulnerable marginalized community of Ahmadis. I hope to make him more famous still for his less recognized work with Indian American physicist Jogesh Pati as a part of Geometric Unity.
@rnparks Another personal hero of mine. Thank you.
āIrregardlessā when generally used by voluptuaries as an ejaculation to advance their cupidity is literally an inflammable provocation whose enormity prevents it from being impactful.
I must now go into a shame spiral before we get started on Double Copulas.
Oh, the horror. ;-)
Note: Mathematicians often use āin generalā to mean something like āalwaysā as opposed to āusuallyā or āgenericallyā.
Note 2: Indians often use āevenā to mean āalsoā but I donāt object to that one. I found it charming after I got used to it. In fact, even I use it sometimes. ;-)
@IbnKhaldune ;-)
@achtuallythe Why choose!
@abhi_mahule I am like this only.
@HippyDadPhD Aur mujee bhii.
@Felix81249685 āEven I use it sometimes.ā I think.
These arenāt the changes to fight: Redskins, Indians, Aunt Jemima, Uncle Benās. Iāve no desire to retain any of them. Bye bye!
But it wonāt stop there. In the blink of an eye we will inexplicably be angry at Shirley Temple Black, and purging her films for cultural appropriation.
In non-anglophone nations, Sweden is The Portalāās 2nd largest audience.
Yet Iāve never been to Sweden and I donāt speak any Swedish. I talk about š®š³ š®š± , š·šŗ , š¹š· , š®š© , š²š½ all the time, have visited & tried to speak their languages. Yet šøšŖ comes thorough for me. Gotta visit šøšŖ!
@caneronge1 Thanks to the Ataturk language reforms of Ottoman the regularity and logic of the language is amazing. The suffixes though are hard to remember if you havenāt tried to speak in years.
@EverywhereTrip Same with many Indians...
@Ako97041024 Mais oui! Where are they?
@MichaNarberhaus Germany.
@kpalmer00111111 In.
@beyazkafa1 Merci.
@caneronge1 One of my favorite ways to discourage trifling with the Turkish language!
2021[edit]
The difficulty of Decolonization and cultural erasure explained visually...using my freezer. Went looking for Ben & Jerryās. Iāll let you know if I find them... https://t.co/MkGBQF7blz
@Kashyap_patel22 Can confirm.
@PeaTearGriffi17 Growing up I didnāt know any of this.
@damian_butler It is preparation for an Indian themed apocalypse.
I must add that we donāt eat that way on a daily basis as I would never have been able to lose the weight.
We appear to be a bit homesick for Bombay since our trip last summer got canceled for Covid and perhaps over did it just a wee bit on our last trip to Little India...
@desinutan Indian Jewish community?
@samyak128 @RealignmentPod Not true! I went to India in 1986 with my best friend whose family was from Chembur.
I wasnāt expecting to be called on to speak or play. But in a split second I grabbed a guitar because I thought of the initial words of this old UP folk song turned Bollywood megahit after being lectured in an earlier room in discussion about cultural appropriation and the blues.
From a different perspective: being in a room stocked deep with South Asian vocal/instrumental talent and nothing but love, how wonderful not to feel judged. My amateurish Hindi and guitar were welcomed. Love is a better option than lecturing *admirers* on Cultural Appropriation.
I am frequently the only Jewish or white face in a room and I wonder why. I canāt help feeling that it is easier to lecture each other than to learn to listen and make deep bonds. But the gift of Black, SouthAsian, LA, Muslim & E. European spaces has been the joy of my life. Thx.
Well with all our talk about xenophobia, cultural appropriation & intolerance I think weāre lying to ourselves. The Indian & SA American community is *exploding* in prominence, bringing an entire universe of culture. And itās still largely invisible. Multiculturalists donāt care!
So what *was* I trying to do there? Well it was a room filled with South Asians playing the most beautiful music for other South Asians. Where was everyone else?!? With all this mania for multiculturalism we arenāt getting the benefits. We are pretending to care about each other.
āWhat Business Have You Coming into My Space?!ā:
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I had no business being there. Oddly no one picked up on the joke!
I think Iām done with accusations. This *is* my music too. True, I wasnāt born in Chicago or the Delta, but Iāve lived my life in awe of this culture. And I have more of a claim to it as an American than I do to Bollywood.
Weāve got to love harder and stop with the accusations. https://t.co/1KjgWQkqjj
Considering doing a series on great Bollywood songs to build the bridges. Not sure if it is a good idea. Stay tuned.
@_BarringtonII Thanks buddy!
@VeritasHaqq Arreo Sambar!
@benshapiro What he said. Yet, Noodle Kugel and Kreplach are some great exceptions. I confess I found an Indian Jewish woman who happens to be a great cook and never looked back at gefilte fish.
[Technically: Also, a doctor. Baruch HaShem...]
@H4ken @benshapiro Word
@benshapiro I didnāt really *viscerally* understand why our food sucked so bad until I went to the Soviet Union. Taste isnāt a priority when simple availability and nutrition/caloric intake are at stake. My relatives would join queues for scarce items before they even knew what was on offer.
Hypothetically: A new radio signal is detected coming from North Sentinel island. Then others join it at consistent frequencies. Then self propelled boats followed by rockets emanating from beneath tree cover. Soon a small mushroom cloud appears.
Q: So. What does India do next?
Q2: How can these inhabitants of North Sentinel Island infer the existence of India and its paternalistic stewardship of their island from indirect evidence in the absence of contact?
Q3: India is Elusive. How do the islanders practiced in science explain this avoidant behavior?
Q4: An Islander claims that if thereās an entire outside advanced civilization that explains their sporadic encounters w boats, it must be millions of years ahead of their crude micro-fusion weapons. How is she refuted? Is she?
Q5: How and how quickly do Indiaās feelings change?
- UFOtwitter
@XOQ42 I want a special SRK dance.
@XOQ42 So. It has come to this?
Then itās time. Let loose the Big B.
@MindfulOfLight Are we starting the milk v water controversy again? Sigh.
@XOQ42 @PiaMalaney Sheās not a fan!! It pains me to say it.
You can find some South Asian jam sessions on Clubhouse if you get the chance to look around. There are often very few non-S. Asians in the rooms, but the hosts are incredibly welcoming in my experience. Donāt assume youāre in the wrong place. Youāre in the right spot. Just go.
In particular I want to shout out the Indian and South Asian music communities who have been mixing up Hindustani, Jazz, Qawali, Blues, Bollywood, pop, etc., and serving it over real time audio.
Itās hard to do because of latency. But it has been a NorthStar for me on down days.
Got a mini concert from Alec who brought a gorgeous Martin Guitar to RoshHaShanah dinner. Sounded great!
Our performing artists have had quite a tough time of it. Letās show them some love when we can. We quietly count on them for more than just mere entertainment in this time.
Why India does not need to fear cultural domination from the outside world, given as a visual argument: https://t.co/72juL3iolU
@ashajadeja325 Food, song, architecture, fiction, ā¦ every time.
@SupermanKenobi Good eye.
@Sanity_3 India takes most culture from the outside as input, not as the last word. There is nothing India canāt make Indian. Every input is a conversation starter. #Desification isnāt a word. But it should be.
@ericozkan1 Itās not that. More a guitar with a bit of Mirch. ;-)
@KWcomeuntome Yes. Astounding. Nothing like Derek Trucks.
2022[edit]
People of Color appear to be ***extremely*** good at learning math in school. I donāt think we should hold them back academically. Itās not like they are cheating as a group. They inspire competition from Europeans and their descents. Letās rise to their challenge. Game on.
Unethical behavior is different. To suggest that we need to change or lower entrance requirements to stop People of Color is absurd. It suggests that they are unethical as a group. And we will not stand for it. Itās racist.
@mb_ws626 @MichaelWaite3 India would like a word with you.
@wbritz87 Iād be happy to when everyone else stops.
BTW. I am not only talking here about east Asia. And I would love to forget race when talking about math. But I was told that to do so is racist. Soā¦right back atcha woke lunatics. Have a petard.
@MatthewJTinkler You are asking a pink person.
@ndrwgr @MatthewJTinkler Laughed a little coffee up my nose. Worth it. Thanks.
@Schema45 With bangs? Long hair? You should be more specific.
All kidding aside, If I can get a PhD in mathematics almost anyone probably can too. Learning differences are a huge issue. Yet a surmountable one.
@pietermarx @wbritz87 Aigu to you too! Always forget that thing.
@pinkharrier Transparent people. You probably donāt notice them. They tend to blend in.
@TRemmets And originally from Africa. Who knows. So bored of this.
I donāt think āIndian Singerā remotely captures how dominant a force Lata Mangeshkar has been in the lives of perhaps a quarter of the earthās population in a career dating back to the 1940s.
A number with her that is not short on either magic or romance: https://t.co/iH40h6Km6p
@morganisized ?
I have to be honest though. As a foreigner listening to her without a background in Indian music, I never got the pitch of her voice which is higher than is comfortable for my ears. But she was, at some level, *THE* āvoice of Indiaā, widely loved across generations and languages.
But this is no time to complain. She was a uniting, almost definitional constant force, and, a bit like Queen Elizabeth, a woman so interwoven into her country that it seemed like she had always been there and always would be, for all time.
RIP
@LanaC41136610 Superstar may be selling her short.
@damrubaaje @findjamski Wow. Havenāt heard this in ages. I have an old cassette tape of Kati Patang.
Just went back to listen to her sisterās brief intro to Merra Naam Hai Shabnam which is wild as it is distinguished by the use of a straight up blues scale.
ą¤ą¤Ŗ ą¤ą¤ø ą¤ą¤¦ą¤®ą„ ą¤ą„ ą¤¦ą„ą¤ą¤¤ą„ ą¤¹ą„ą¤...ą¤ą¤ø ą¤ą¤¦ą¤®ą„ ą¤ą„ ą¤¦ą„ą¤ą„ą¤? ą¤Øą¤ą¤¬ą¤° ą¤ą¤ ą¤¬ą¤ą¤µą¤¾ą¤ø ą¤ą¤¦ą¤®ą„ą„¤ ą¤µą¤¹ "ą¤µą„ ą¤µą„, ą¤µą„ ą¤µą„" ą¤ą¤°ą¤¤ą¤¾ ą¤¹ą„ą„¤
ą¤¬ą¤¾ą¤¹ą¤° ą¤øą„ ą¤ą„ą¤ ą¤ ą¤ą¤¦ą¤° ą¤Øą¤¾ ą¤ ą¤øą¤ą„ ą¤ ą¤ą¤¦ą¤° ą¤øą„ ą¤ą„ą¤ ą¤¬ą¤¾ą¤¹ą¤° ą¤Øą¤¾ ą¤ą¤¾ ą¤øą¤ą„ https://t.co/in1LwDFxdk
We have to laugh. I know it is incredibly serious. But, at the same time, itās also all just so stupid, totalizing and relentless. Iāll go back to being somber. But at this point, Iām just so royally pissed off as well, having to take these leaders seriously. They arenāt serious.
When I saw this video,
āą¤¹ą¤®-ą¤¤ą„ą¤® ą¤ą¤ ą¤ą¤®ą¤°ą„ ą¤®ą„ą¤ ą¤¬ą¤ą¤¦ ą¤¹ą„ą¤ ą¤ą¤° ą¤ą¤¾ą¤¬ą„ ą¤ą¤¼ą„ ą¤ą¤¾ą¤ā is what went through my head picturing Justin Trudeau in full regalia. The lyric refers to the erotic bliss of being trapped alone in a room with oneās beloved, unable to find the key.
@Emrys_the_Elder When two quarrel, the third profits.
@CooolTwit An all-American kid Iām afraid.
@ranveer3051 Not much.
@ADITYASTRONOMER Dare to dream. https://t.co/oKuToXh6x5
@ZiyanMufti Not that much and I forget what little I know. But Hindi and Urdu couldnāt be more fun to play with. Mostly Hindi speaking people are incredibly forgiving and warm as teachers.
@MihirNeal š¤·āāļø
@ADITYASTRONOMER I am kidding of course. But I saw it and thought: āThatās the most Indian thing possible: take any potentially invasive cultural force and instantly Indianize it so that India can absorb it rather than fight it.ā
I think not. But it is close to a multi-polar playing field with a lot of unskilled leaders and N Korea, China, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, India, Russia, The United States, Israel, etc in play at once. So what do I know.
I may think not, but we *are* eroding our margin for error.
Key point is that there is going to be a lot of distraction and the ambitious may be expected to move rapidly, much the way looting often takes place when police are known to be stretched thin for whatever reason (e.g. an earthquake).
Tellerās āNuclear Genieā will hang over any resumption of attempts to saber rattle between nuclear, and near nuclear nations: China, N Korea, Israel, Pakistan, India. Particularly with rhetoric about experiencing āconsequences that you never have had before in your historyā.
My concern, to sum up, is that we blunder our way into open ended nuclear rhetoric that opens the door to new levels of the unthinkable. I donāt think this will get there. But I think it might and it may begin an erosion of the barriers to the unthinkable. As we saw in WWI & II.
And thatās a real threat as this āgameā hasnāt been played like this for so long. Weāre like a black belt from a strip mall Aikido dojo getting into our first street fight. How well weāre actually prepared is open to speculation. No one knows where we are with open ended threats.
I donāt think this will be a nuclear war as Iāve said. But I think the current crop of leaders has lost track of where posturing becomes reality. Putin would be an exception. My concern is that unskilled peacetime leaders may blunder into nuclear brinksmanship they canāt manage.
Iām also worried about China, N Korea, Iran, etc moving their pieces while we are focused on Russia/Ukraine. I donāt know how well our system really works anymore after the Afghanistan pull out. Iām not sure we really know how to play this role anymore. Hence the concern. š
@AnnaGBusse The risk of blundering into nuclear war has skyrocketed now. It is still small. But no longer tiny. And it is likely to grow from here.
I would be happy to read from āThe Moorās Last Sigh.ā Why? Because it is a book that offended members of Indiaās vulnerable Jewish community to which I am connected. I want to read passages that are offensive to our family in solidarity with Mr Rushdie and his freedom of speech.
Mr Rushdie linked Jews in India to underworld events via fiction.
Mr Rushdie HAS the right to offend our community as an author without facing violence from us. Iād personally appreciate any Muslims who feel similarly offering to read Mr Rushdieās *most* offensive passages.
Suggestion to westerners with $40 burning a hole in their pockets: go to any āInternational Supermarketā, āAsian Supermarketā, āMiddleEastern Supermarketā, āArmenian Supermarketā, etcā¦And just buy a bunch of food that looks appetizing and TOTALLY unfamiliar.
Youāre welcome.
Youāll waste $10 dollars approximately spitting out things. And youāll discover some wonderful things you canāt believe no one talks and that you soon canāt live without.
If you use any version of this hack already, tell us what your best finds have been? Thanks in advance! š
@encyclopath Philippine markets are tricky.
@sun0369 Am I so transparent? ;-)
@ThoughtsToby I guarantee you that even Indians donāt know all the stuff in a good Indian supermarket. Same for middle easterners. Some stuff is just totally regional.
@PitHumke Sitaphal and ramphal are even above cherimoya in my opinion! Impossible to find in the states for me however.
@CVerican Yesterday, it was pistachio halva spun so fine that it melted instantly.
@CVerican Before that, a mangosteen drink with swollen basil seeds. Peanut marzipan.
Gnipa is natures lemon drops. That was one I didnāt grow up with.
Willing to answer a few more Tweets on the San Marino UAP conference where I unexpectedly was asked to fill in for @LueElizondo. Iām likely to get throttled & harassed yet again. When and if the beloved Twitter nanny algorithm starts again, Iāll call it a night here in Rome.
Same rules as before. No changes on my part. Iām doing this only because I am not trying to hide anything that I am in a reasonable position to share and many of you want to know what the heck is going on as much as I do. But there are limits. Such is life.
Shoot.
@McLuhanStates @LueElizondo There is a lot of loose talk about dimensionality. Keep in mind that I have zero direct evidence of the phenomena. So this is wildly premature.
My interest here is that GU replaces one manifold with two in a bundle structure and adds BOTH temporal and spatial dimensions.
@McLuhanStates @LueElizondo As the author of GU, I still donāt know how to think in multiple temporal dimensions. The math is quite exotic. But I at least know through GU that the math can FORCE us to confront ultra hyperbolic PDE. It would change everything we know if unscreened. No simple Hamiltonian.
@McLuhanStates @LueElizondo I wish people would stop talking about higher dimensional beings though. If GU is on point, then we are also higher dimensional beings. So I could do without Exoticism. If this is in any way real, we should reserve speech for precise meanings. And I donāt know if it is real. Yet.
@prowl4uap @LueElizondo Here goes. I still feel like this FEELS like bullshit. Particularly the number of explicit depictions of Tetrapod hominid like beings.
But the truckloads of indirect evidence suggests NHI. I just donāt have a way of squaring this. And the āexperiencersā are breaking my heart.
@prowl4uap @LueElizondo I wasnāt prepared for this part to be honest. Iāve met so many voices whoās lives were taken over by an experience that they seemingly didnāt want. People breaking down. As far from attention seeking as you can imagine with no theater background. Itās pretty hard to explain away.
@prowl4uap @LueElizondo Why would ordinary folks ruin their lives like this? No money in it. No desire for fame. No other signs of shifted reality. So I donāt know what to say.
The absence of direct evidence screams BS. The indirect evidence screams some wildly new thing in town. And Iām too dumb here.
@mikedduffey @LueElizondo Donāt know. Less if not asked to do something official. I hate this topic. Itās an infinite conundrum. Always a new hint. Never just some actual solid trustworthy data.
Iāve had quite enough space opera and national security runaround. Letās get to the meal. Too many appetizers.
@montanacasey @LueElizondo Donāt know who that is. I see the name around. But Iām not really in this space. Itās embarrassing. But Iām not a ufologist. And there is so much ufology that Iām not up on this stuff. My fault.
@smbodie3 @LueElizondo People were very kind. Apparently I did some wrong things on stage. But a condition of taking this on the night before was that I would be me. They decided this is real. I donāt have that data. I am still spread over real / not real until I see something super clear & concrete.
@twitpucker @LueElizondo Iād start with academic freedom and civility. There is more than enough here to DEMAND answers. This belongs to science as much as it does to NatSec. We donāt need a Fauci for UAP. We need physics and math to begin. Biology if warranted. Letās just be serious if it is a threat.
@twitpucker @LueElizondo The gigglers & shamers & accusers need to get a pacifier and a juice box for a time out. We gave out too many PhDs to mediocre souls. Itās a disaster. Itās nuts that theyāre STILL here to inhibit consideration of this after all the claims by USG.
Too much inclusion of trolls.
@BostonsBuddha @twitpucker @LueElizondo It appears to be titrated. Which I dislike. At some point foreplay made sense. That was a while ago. Enough.
@StevenBelmont4 @LueElizondo Weāre now waiting for a cataclysmic event to arrive in a Poisson process. We arenāt getting it. Biden & Putin & Xi & Kim & Khamenei & Zelensky are not getting where we are. Itās like theyāre throwing a rave on a life boat surrounded by oceanic whitetips. Who are these people?
@StevenBelmont4 @LueElizondo We have all our eggs in this basket and we are focused on Eastern Ukraine & Chips in Taiwan like the world didnāt change last century forever? Iām totally lost. I donāt want to be here for the Poisson process. I want to be somewhere with an atmosphere and real distance from this.
@RGoddardishere @LueElizondo Would prefer not to. I need data and an end to NatSec paternalism. This is either serious or it isnāt. If it isnāt, stop wasting time. If it is, you need the physicists and geometers at a minimum. Where are they??
@codingfodder @LueElizondo Read @notevenwrongās excerpts of the David E Kaplan interview. We need to clean house to revitalize physics as if our lives depend on its progress. Anyone who wants to whine about taxpayer dollars for theoretical physics gets thrown out of the planning discussion. So destructive.
@UAPDAO @LueElizondo Yesā¦but itās like space opera. Lots of claims. Iād like to see something. Isnāt it a bit weird to hear these super detailed stories with hard NO EVIDENCE this even happened?
Itās embarrassing frankly. Like Stag-o-Lee stories around a campfire. Only from serious people.
@galacticfuton Been going on for too long. š¤·āāļø
@207isHeaven Iām not read in anywhere. Not an insider unless I have to become one.
@SergheiIancenco @McLuhanStates @LueElizondo Thereās an operation called āPull Backā in differential topology. Itās akin to pulling back data from a record album. You donāt hear the album all at once even though the data is all there at once. Weād be pullbacks into 4D from 14D w/ both 4D & 14D existence. Bit of a mind flip.
@nickthadude_86 @LueElizondo Many. Of either Material vehicles or spoofing and disinformation. It feels like a spoof that is too big for anyone or any group to pull off. Like way too big. So I think itās probably real. Just canāt believe it has no solid evidence. I donāt get how this is possible.
@TheCertainT @Klupperz Let me answer this. I donāt think we are alone in the universe. So a lot rests on GR being effectively a moat making travel so cumbersome as to be not worth attempting. If thatās wrong; itās pretty arrogant to think we are alone in the solar system. Post-GR changes a lot of odds.
@TheCertainT @Klupperz I promise you India would keep the North Sentinelese from leaving and causing trouble if the Islanders figured out Science and Fusion Wepons before they figured out how to escape and build vehicles to escape their island. Think about it.
@lololmaoha @LueElizondo Magic spoon has weird mouth feel. But itās okay.
@Intriguing_Post @LueElizondo Tetrapods are the least interesting beings. Because then itās likely just earth life or we were seeded from them. Tells us little about Post-GR escape. Post-GR is everything to me. Can we travel the cosmos? Dunno.
āOur home is in the stars or not at all.ā
I believe that.
@207isHeaven No.
@kerskine They are running out of road. So it is way up. People are fed up.
@YungJozuz Yes.
@ben83724 Canāt answer.
@DannyDeck68 There was a lot of disinformation around the Golden Age of GR. Itās mostly in the public domain. But it requires piecing together.
@ben_koski Last Question of the Night: where did the top mathematicians and physicists go after the Mansfield amendment(s)? How can you have UAP where I am the only voice loudly pointing out that Real Alien Vehicles would like require new physical law. We can account for every relevant PhD.
@ben_koski Where are the physicists and Geometers? Hint hint.
If they are not out here, itās likely all BS. If they are here, they are hidden in plain sight. There just arenāt that many of us. Technology wonāt work if you donāt know the relevant science. Thatās not engineering or MatSci.
@ben_koski Stop dreaming about FTL. Or element 115. Or Alcubierre GR. Or electogravitics. Itās bizarre that we discuss this so much.
First Ask: where are our relevant experts? Imagine you want the top 25 GR/SM/DiffGeometers for a matter of national security? Put together that list.
@ben_koski If those folks arenāt out here then we are talking about a psyop or a giant government blunder endangering us all. If they ARE here, you know their names. Work backwards. Is there an NSA for UAP? If so what is its address? Come on guys. Not many speak this language. Small club.
@ben_koski What happened with the Mansfield amendment & why does no one discuss this? We used to have our top people on this but we called it something else. Where did it go? Either it ended or it didnāt. Itās a tiny world. Just donāt get all Qanon. Itās a big story: Treat it w/ respect.š
@ben_koski Hope that helped clear things up. I was never meant to speak at this conference. Keep that in mind. Goodnight.
@percent_good @Intriguing_Post @LueElizondo Two for the purposes of reproduction. But why in a lightbulb? Seems weird.
2023[edit]
@neelaneel Thanks! Where are you in India?
@neelaneel Himachal! Oh man. I donāt know anyone up there. Would love to visit.
What are some of your favorite songs or pieces of music that you have never shared or discussed w/ anyone else?
Music that may be popular with others but that has zero cultural currency in your social world. Could use some inspiration. Thanks in advance!
@Kristenhydra My son introduced me to it. He loved it, and now so so I. But it wasnāt on my radar even if I had heard it a couple of times.
@JeremyLipford1 Heavy.
@redz67229642 KMET 94.7 in LA loved that song. Thanks!
@AvirupMondal41 Wouldnāt have found him without Aicha I admit. Thanks! Favorite Indian performances?
@allendillow1 My brother:
@harmonylion1 Amen.
@aaronjdennis Went home with the waitress!
@Bitcoin_Rambo1 @YouTube Bach to basics.
@emceeka97376771 @redz67229642 Met met metā¦.
@1muralist1 @aaronjdennis āI was in the houseā is one of my theme songs.
@PFShawns Throw in Manuel deFalla (sp ?) and we have a deal. Favorite compositions and performers ?
@QuantumNova My son introduced me. Had never heard it.
@reedes Hayseed Dixie would like a word.
@ificouldist I hear you:
@juliusgu23 @C_Ups17 @Slash We went to elementary school together. He was obviously super bright when he was Saul. But he was also close to being a juvenile delinquent. A bit scary. Extremely charismatic. I wasnāt aware of him playing music back then. But I always knew he was going to have a wild ride.
Same experiment. 5-10 questions while waiting in a parking lot. What might I clear up from JRE #1945 on physics and UFOs? Trolls get blocked as before. That said: Letās go.
- BeConstructive
@n0sce @mpigliucci Itās generally easier than you might imagine. Itās harder to tell real science from wrong science. As I said, Einstein published vague, wrong, and incomplete versions of his theory before ironing out the kinks. He was right all along. IMO.
@Reason_Will_Win I am happy to try the dinner @joerogan suggested. But having a nuclear theorist and experimentalists might be super helpful.
But yes. Iāll follow Joeās lead.
@KaizouKuBhuvi17 Dark matter and dark forces are understandable if I am correct. Many of them just decouple in weak gravitational backgrounds from the matter that we are. So they are dark to usā¦but not dark within their own sector. Hence dark chemistry.
@matthew_pines There is a search for steady hands. People who both have the respect of the field and the trust of the institutions. David Spergel is a logical choice. That is my best guess. There are other guesses however.
@FettuccineSplit Forget your scale. Lue has been quite responsive and has always seemed straight in his dealings with me. He canāt say everything and I donāt expect it. No complaints.
@jetpen Time dilation is quackery in Newtonian physics but not in relativistic physics. Quackery is measured relative to a particularly thy. I was merely illustrating what was being considered in 1957. Mass became even more tricky with E-W scale soft-mass generation via Yukawa coupling.
@_dreamfinder_ Yes. But the problem is that most people are not following what Iām saying technically. They could chase down Roger Babson / Agnew Bahnson, but it is easier to claim that it is all some idiosyncratic psychological issue on my part. Which, is dumb; I donāt need that in my life.
@_dreamfinder_ Thereās so much in this episode that can be chased down. Itās a pretty coherent story. Particle physics stalled 50 years ago. We arenāt admitting how bad this is so we wasted 39 years chasing quantum gravity which couldnāt be questioned without severe repercussions. Start there.
@_BenjaminLight I donāt understand why we arenāt all talking about the failure of quantum gravity. Why are we all forced to deal with a 70 year abject failure of physics as if someone explained why gravity has to be quantized like the other fields. I canāt explain that.
@Rowen72600346 I am forced to give the āAliensā topic more credence than I did. But I was close to giving it zero before. So perhaps I am not the best yardstick. I thought this was all space opera BS.
@HoenirCanute I worry about an adversary with access to multiple extra dimensions of both spatial and temporal signatures. I worry about dark chemistry. And dark force.
Just imagine a conflict between thermonuclear India and the archers of North Sentinel island. Physics is serious leverage.
@asheenann A lot. I donāt like it. Too many good folks with detailed and frequently similar stories with no desire for fame and with no acting ability,
I canāt explain it. And it is frankly uncomfortable.
@GenevieveOutra1 End the withholding of the US Governmentās data from its OWN SCIENTISTS. This is beyond destructive of our national trust.
@TravisWalstrom Because it is all too easy to make up really dumb stuff that is time consuming to evaluate.
@biorunner11 @neiltyson NDT is betting that everything that sounds like the Loch Ness Monster is BS. And thatās a good heuristic.
This used to sound like Loch Ness Monsters. But you have to update your priors in science. The right question is āDid NHI become *ANY* more plausible recently?ā Try that.
Thatās a bunch. Thanks all. Back to work. Appreciate the questions.
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ā> Bombay soon.
First time in many years. I would love to connect or even do an event with the Bombay/Indian community following this account and the Portal.
Apologize for the short notice! Let me know your thoughts. š https://t.co/s5KsAnweVQ
@drbrownbears ą¤ą¤Ŗ ą¤ą¤¹ą¤¤ą„ ą¤¹ą„ą¤ ą¤ą¤²ą„...
@nileshkawane IYKYK. https://t.co/999eliL45O
@Aryamaan12 Topics I would most like to discuss involve Indiaās future as a scientific powerhouse, the future of Hindustani classical music outside the Desi community, South Asian diaspora ascendency in the Anglophone world, SA Cultures & Tech, etc.
Thatās what interests me at the moment. https://t.co/oGHqjqwZzz
@tarik_markovic @Aryamaan12 Are you in India Tarik?
South Asians: who are the closest analogs in long-form SA podcasting space to:
Lex Fridman
Sam Harris
Joe Rogan
Red Scare
Tim Pool
Ben Shapiro
Russell Brand
Etc.
In English, Hindi, or Urdu?
Iām *completely* clueless and headed to Bombay/Mumbai. Would love to compare notes. š
@Ravarora1 @shambhav15 Thanks! Do you know the home city?
@Ravarora1 @shambhav15 Really appreciated. Thanks my friend.
@ishankbahl97 @BeerBicepsGuy Cool! Hey thanks. Will check it out!
@imrozed @amitvarma Awesome. Appreciated!
@krishan_zaveri @AbhijitChavda Thank you!
@angryfishmonger @cyrussaysin @Broacha_Cyrus @IVMPodcasts Great to know. Appreciate you!
@garud_10 @BeerBicepsGuy Perfect. Now following.
@KiaNeu6 @Iyervval Great to know! Thanks so much.
@GeoffreyStreve1 Him too.
And Jordan Peterson
And Triggernometry
Etc
@prakharshivam @dostcast_tweets @VinamreKasanaa Alerted and now following!
[A note: some irritation is being shown to me because Bombay/Mumbai is in India and I addressed āSouth Asiansā.
Not to dwell on it, but well over 10 years ago I put some small effort into Hindi and Urdu which are very closely related languages with divergent orthographies and are the national languages of India and Pakistan. So in rough order of importance, I was trying in one single short tweet to do multiple things without making a bunch of different tweets that would be of no interest to a world wide following;
A) Find out which long-form English language podcasters were in *India* and specifically Bombay/Mumbai.
B) Better understand English language podcasters in the related nations of the region including Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, etc. As well as the regionās diaspora.
C) Try to quickly get some Hindi and Urdu in my ears agin on a short trip after many years away by listening to Hindi and Urdu podcasts from India and Pakistan specifically.
Not an unreasonable idea so far as I saw it. But it caused offense. Sorry some of you found that offensive. It was really as simple as the above. But a little charity for outsiders *admitting* to being clueless goes a long way. One outsiderās opinion anywayā¦be well all.]
@kapilkantkaul Technically: āOfficial languageā. Along with English.
@Im_S1ddharth Not just. A decision was made.
@ajaynarayan_ Ok
@Shiva27713340 Thanks friend.
@psychoButSmart https://t.co/FRs0XlyfdA
@BeerBicepsGuy Perhaps schedule it in sprints of 50 which conclude. And take breaks between?
Or abandon work life balance. Embrace unbalanced life?
Use a schedule that balances number of creative ideas you have with output schedule?
Mix short easy vignettes with longer actual episodes?
@BeerBicepsGuy A thought: Joe Rogan does a great job of constant output because he just schedules episodes that fascinate him. So he is only doing what interests him and gives him energy.
I have been told that you are Indiaās closest to JRE. So good luck. Hope this helps.
@BeerBicepsGuy You are way too kind. Iām no Priyanka Chopra but would love to connect whenever weāre in the same city.
Hoping to come more often and work to better connect the Indian and US podcasting worlds. So this is huge for me too. Nice to āmeetā you Ranveer! Hope to do it in person soon.
Great to meet Indiaās leaders in longform podcasting. Thanks to @amitvarma of the āSeen & Unseenā podcast. Amit does a lot of homework & makes me hopeful that India may take English language podcasting in a fresh & different direction.
Would love to help this take off š-wide. https://t.co/Z4B6xu9bBz
@soburlife @amitvarma @nntaleb A one man army and great spirit.
@rohitpa25095734 @amitvarma Itās been almost 40 years. Would love to find an invitation.
If you have ever been told not to visit India as a foreigner in May because of the heatā¦know that it is actually because they donāt want to share their precious Alphonso mangoes.
I will redouble my efforts to eradicate the dreaded āTommy Atkinsā mango from the US upon return. https://t.co/brNr8x8Lhx
Seriously. Do not die without tasting the great mango cultivars of this planet. The Floridian Tommy Atkins cultivar should be banned. It is a total abomination.
Death to Tommy Atkins. Enough. We must close the mango gap.
Please use the rest of this thread for fighting about mango supremacy. Informed mango jingoism is highly encouraged. Tell me about how the mangoes you love are better than everyone elseās. Iām here for it. Thanks in advance.
@TopEndDownUnda Let them fight.
@XAppUser You are my friend for life. Itās totally bananas.
@ks_kulk With you on this.
@IAmLearninHere Fanatic!!!
@askthepunkuzz Indeed.
@JGoad305 Uh. Careful friend. There are experts and fanatics everywhere.
@tsagar You have sealed your fate by trying to avoid it. See you soon!
@marinebiologst7 They are evil.
@pyalert Total Revolution! We must protect the mango.
@ufofigg Is this my wifeās burner account?
@HemanPhinehas So smug.
@cognitoprofound @deepakmohoni I was today years old when this gora learnedā¦
@rajivprakash @BurakYngn Heh Heh.
@BabaParshuram1 Then I must achieve mango salvation.
@mchamria I am here dripping mango juice from the second of the afternoon. Bliss.
@RandomThought_X @HemanPhinehas Take me.
Back from a week and a half in India, my mind is a blur from all the change that is evident from a decade away.
I canāt say I didnāt ask for itā¦ https://t.co/svKM5kMteE
@jc_finnegan āą¤«ą¤¼ą„ą¤ą„ą¤ ą¤®ą„ ą¤ą¤Ŗą„.ā
-Lord Phuchka to Golgappa as recorded in the Chaat Veda.
@srijan_mahajan @jc_finnegan Donāt blow this for me man. Iām wildly jet lagged.
@based_ajay One joke over the lineā¦.
@srijan_mahajan @jc_finnegan Love Amit. https://t.co/bimKBi4Bl1
@simple_re Try sleeping in Bombay. The place is wall to wall energy and life.
@amongtheheathen Would consider a stay of months actually. It seems like there is so much opportunity.
@MarioNawfal Where do you land and where will you go Mario?
@MarioNawfal @GauravDubeyLive I donāt know that India at all. Please let me know what you find?
@jyeza21 Every specific electron is but an excitation of the spinor bundle my friend, so that conjures eastern Brahman Atma archetypes. Etc. But I have not made contact with Buddhist parallels yet specifically. Sorry.
@MichaelQiu14 @jyeza21 You will notice I donāt really do it. Unless asked.
Canāt sleep and happy to take a few questions in this thread. Iām up, wired and in no particular time zone.
All I can offer is personal impressions as I wasnāt there long enough for a deep dive into what I consider possibly the most complex place on earth and was only in Mumbai.
Whatās on your mind Twitter?
@GoBuckeyes4Life Didnāt see any.
@Swayson At the airport on landing. We all have this impression when we land āOMG I forgot that America has been scrubbed of its smells.ā India hits you in the nose. And the air and the heat. But Butter Crab and Crawford market hit me this trip in particular.
@Rustyspurs79 TIFR.
The Tata institute for fundamental research is my favorite spot in Bombay. https://t.co/gyP8l88cwM
Also, to clarify, Iām Interested in answering the questions about india in particular. Sorry if that wasnāt more explicit.
@remaxbrianwilks I was only at TIFR. My sense is that the pure math/physics worlds in TIFR are amazing considering the relative wealth and geographic isolation from Europe and N America. Iām always impressed when there talking to colleagues.
@DaxKelm Our view in my In-Laws place is to the west so the sunsets are wonderful. Also, love to go to marine drive with the people thronging the walkway to watch them. https://t.co/Of0mbJRKG7
@TeslaTears I honestly donāt feel being an obvious minority there. Indians are also less and less conscious of my difference as well over the last 3-4 decades. People care less than they used to. Which is great.
@MadsOlesenDK Yes. Rising middle class was a powerful change. Super interested in this.
@Lcyzecyk I want it to care less about the west. I think it is time for some serious thought leadership out of india. Many meetings revolved around this. Stop paying so much attention to the west. The west is having an off moment. Run with it and lead!
@TrojanHorseBTC I did not.
@SpaceVoyeur Ha.
I forgot how much the place matters to me. But because I donāt go for certain more typical reasons I always feel I am doing India wrong. My india is more friends, food, and family. But I plugged in intellectually more this trip. Which was amazing! Would love to try a podcasting/speaking tour.
@anjanbluesword1 I had a (gujrati) thali with lots of things I didnāt recognize at a friends place. Marvelous.
@Bernochus Not like here. There is a lot of sensitivity around BJP/Hindutva which would be the closest analog. Which I will sidestep here. It is 7:43am and Iām not up to it.
@Ra0uf02 India absorbs all outside energy. Then it transforms it and makes it truly Indian. Then it sends it back in its new form.
Thatās why it can never be defeated. It has done this for as long as I have been going. And probably for forever before that.
@DaniLissie Uh. Yes. Then they add songs and dance to them. And mirch. And then I hear they have an entire industry that makes them anew as well to say nothing of totally original output. They are very up to date however on our output.
Try understanding even one square block in Mumbai. How much is going on at totally different levels. In different languages. Itās incomprehensible.
Bombay is perhaps the most cosmopolitan city in the world even when you subtract all foreigners. Hard to explain. Itās just everything all at once at all times in superposition. Worlds within worlds within worlds.
@josephus77 Donāt start. I miss it already. Culinary heaven.
Ah. Important point.
I wouldnāt know how. Honestly, India teaches Americans humility. You wouldnāt know how to change things. And you arenāt fooled into thinking you have this insight. Itās just too hard to understand how everything affects everything else in a way that you know you canāt grasp.
Thanks for this question. Itās one of the most important I know.
@PrayagDuttPand5 It was bad in midday. But there was a lot of AC. Not as bad as I feared actually.
@untimelyboogie Maybe my top choice. What a book for its time!!!
@AJAmmirabilis From itself? Startup culture may break Indian pressure to conform. If so? Look out world. Dare to dreamā¦
@EricYoungArt I hope so. The US doesnāt notice its Indianization because Indians fit so well into our corporate structures. But itās going to go off soon in a big wayā¦.I hope.
@JBach74 No. I am much more focused on the north because that is what I know. Would love to plug in to the south!
@Bosko__is_kill No.
It is the country that teaches me more per day than any other. It is more of a natural fit than East Asia has been for my mindā¦.and totally distinct from the west.
It is also a collection of sub cultures. Some days there I donāt think India exists. On others: there it is as a unified whole. Food, MUSIC, architecture, humorā¦I could spend my life there and never leave. It lacks very little.
Last answer on this thread.
I think the west doesnāt have a real picture of india to be honest. Nothing against cobras and elephants, but we need more discussion of modern India and the subcontinent on Podcasts to get beyond tropes.
I am obsessed with what we can do in this space. Together. Thanks for the question my friend.
Okay. Thanks everyone. That was a bunch. Not at a sparkling zenith due to fatigue but really appreciated the questions. Thank you all for connecting.
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My first appearance outside the US as podcast guest. I really appreciate Indiaās @amitvarma getting things out of me that differ from all other appearances.
Like with @lexfridman, I heard more of the neglected parts of my own voice in segments of this episode.
Have a listen!š
Also: @amitvarmaās audience is largely Indian or from the Indian diaspora.
I think just as the west at some point woke up to the brilliance of Indian fiction writers writing in English, Indian English-Language podcasting is ripe for an explosion consumed by us Non-Indians. Consider following Amit if you have never heard of him and getting in on the ground floor even if you have never been to the subcontinent and have no connection to its culture. There is no reason his content should be almost exclusively Indian in a global context anymore than @lexfridman should be exclusively American.
Canāt wait to watch the Indian long form podcasting space take off and route around the official narratives the way @joerogan and others do to broadcast the unofficial conversations Americans are *actually* having to the dismay of our official and often largely fake channels.
@1001booksyou @amitvarma @lexfridman @GurusPod Iāll save you the trouble.
āHa ha. Those more courageous & interesting to listen to than us, are so full of shit. Fight the grifters by contributing to our patreon! Help us become the gurus we shit upon. Look at us! Look at us! WE will point out the egoic narcissists.ā Etc.
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@whatkhushi @amitvarma @lexfridman Here Iām (mostly) talking to the west. But in the episode I make your point.
@KingSinistro @amitvarma It needs more boom! I think itās at the beginning still.
@1001booksyou @amitvarma @lexfridman @GurusPod Enjoy the most excellent dunking and dragging at expense of others souls.
Ha ha.
Blocking you Maria. There are less than 5000 weeks in an average life.
Take care. And good luck.
C) If someone talks about time dilation, Alcubierre warp drives, wormholes, multi-generation ships, etc, it is probably garbage. This is an attempt to get sci-fi results out of known science. If something is here from far away, it isnāt bound by our bizarre stagnation in physics. https://t.co/rT3j4l2lHh
D) Beware of any discussion of unrelated aliens that have tetrapod body plans. Take a long hard look at intelligent mollusks on earth. Thatās the closest we have to aliens. The odds of unrelated tetrapod aliens is justā¦I canāt even believe we are having this discussion. Sorry. https://t.co/zB58WPXuPl
E) Develop *your own* set of questions. My big win out here is the question āIf these crafts defy physical law and pose an existential threat to our military, then where are our top physicists? I know most of them. There is almost no room for a Manhattan project. So? And? Well?ā https://t.co/x8N9IbBntY
F) Keep an open mind. The ONLY thing that makes alien visitation seem scientifically preposterous in an unfathomably large universe filled w/ galaxies is our present knowledge of relativistic physics. Which is oddly stagnant at barely 100yrs old. And itās āknownā to be temporary. https://t.co/COsQvko2q4
G) Be confident that relativity is not the last word. We āknowā from its singularities that it is an effective theory with flaws. It IS going to be superseded if we donāt destroy ourselves first. And its successor may show us that the universe is traversable. Dream again, dammit. https://t.co/93RoUFJ0Ms
H) Remember North Sentinel Island. North sentinel island has a Fermi paradox. It sounds preposterous that there are Indian citizens who donāt know India exists for sure and are kept in a state of near total ignorance with only occasional bizarre visitations. But it is real. Ergo. https://t.co/lRJropK6gW
I) Remember that at some point, ships sailed over horizons to N America. Hominids who thought they were alone were visited by advanced hominids. Stop taking normal life as arbiter. No one outside a small group knows what the hell is going on. Mostly itās BS. Yet once in a while.. https://t.co/FjWv2axarG
Just remember N Sentinel Island & Cape Cod. You arenāt scientifically crazy for asking whether it can happen. Just get your science straight & stop swinging at every damn video/story.
It HAS happened before. Hereās to our 2nd First Encounter. May it go better than the last.. š https://t.co/tUoKw3IDTk
@tbarker80 I was with you up to public schools in the south brother.
Heading to friends in Istanbul this weekend and then Lisbon after that. Would love to understand the Turkey focused English Language podcast landscape.
For example, does it exist & does it matter?
Forgive my ignorance. But I know nothing in this area. Please educate me, and many thanks!
I know Portugal less well as a country, but would be happy for recommendations there as well. I speak zero Portuguese however. Thanks Twitter!
@gabbertrob @timurkuran He was my first stop!
@Cassandra_Sota Huh. So why did they change it?
It has all but disintegrated. Iām a little surprised. Having just gotten back some Hindi for a recent trip to india, it seems to have negatively impacted Turkish as there are a fair number of similarities both accidental (e.g. S-O-V word order) and through Persian/Arabic.
Kinda sad.
@Rats1331 Hos bulduk!
@Cassandra_Sota Thanks. Åimdi dĆ¼ÅĆ¼nĆ¼nce TĆ¼rk bile olmadıÄım iƧin sormak bana dĆ¼Åmez ve bu gerƧekten onları ilgilendirir.
@Cassandra_Sota Onların iÅi.
2024[edit]
One of my goals is to better connect the pirate radio of the anglophone podcasting world to our counter-parts in India. As such, it was a thrill to sit down with Prakhar.
Having done this now with @amitvarma in Bombay/Mumbai, and @prvkhvr just now, I can say that I really appreciate the difference in the content, style and focus. Indian podcasting is accurately reflecting the true cultural shadings in the rhythm of discourse, and the questions are often entirely different at the level of substance.
I firmly believe that we in the West are set to relearn the lesson of Indians writing in English; many of the worlds best English language conversationalists right now are Indian, tilted towards Hindi spiced British English, and they could possibly truly completely transform the entire space for the better.
That said, I specifically don't want to say "@BeerBicepsGuy is the Rogan of Indian podcasting just as @prvkhvr is the Lex Fridman"..or some such nonsense. That would be totally uninteresting. We already have a @lexfridman and a @joerogan. This only gets really interesting when India serves up an ecosystem that is really *new*, and thus self-confident enough not to measure its success by a self-imposed western yardstick.
If I am correct, English speaking India is a sleeping giant, capable of shaking up the world of long-form English language podcasting in the next 10 years. Right now, the U.S. really has no meaningful image of modern India. Hopefully, long-form podcasting is going to change that. I would love to be even a small part of making that happen.
Whether I am right in the above line of thinking, or whether this is just a hopeful dream, I can't say. But there is only one way to find out; let's try it.
Happy new year to all and Shabbat shalom.
[ą¤°ą¤£ą¤µą„ą¤°, ą¤ą¤²ą„ ą¤®ą„ą¤°ą„ ą¤¦ą„ą¤øą„ą¤¤ ! And congratulations on @naval. That was great.]
@SacredGeoInt @amitvarma @prvkhvr @JohnnyVedmore Eh?
Yikes. That seemed funny at first.
Is this coming from the anti-Semite/pro-Hamas world? The Whitney Webb world? The Bitcoin maximalist world? The pro-peer review world? There are so many of these angry groups, I lose track.
There are all these seemingly different worlds that are attempting to enmesh me in their drama(s). Usually (maybe 85%) of the time, these ringleaders eventually are found to have issue with Jews and/or Israel no matter what the ostensible area of endeavor.
Thanks just the same and Shabbat shalom.
@ZovaZyan @FranklinCormor1 @SacredGeoInt @amitvarma @prvkhvr @JohnnyVedmore I totally understand. Be well. https://t.co/6bWYJvi0k5
Let me first say hello to you. We have never met. As I write this I have no idea who you are. I donāt know if you are pro Trumpor pro Harris. Or if you are British or Peruvian. I donāt know if you are Buddhist. Or if you are a die hard Jewish commando serving in the IDF.
You and I do not know each other, there is no desire on my part to engage further with a random account that is using facts in my life that I am very proud of to make up a story to animate a group of accounts to harass me. You are neither the first nor the only one doing this. In other dramas I am a Mossad agent, or Peter-Theils henchman, or George Sorosā agent.
That wasnāt my first response. My first response to being attacked was to respond to someone else 4 days ago because I thought they were a poor confused soul.
I have a policy of not responding to people telling stories to incite mobs against me. Itās hopeless. They donāt listen. And they take the real responses as denials which animates them more.
Such people arenāt critics. They are usually wounded and traumatized souls trying to figure out what is true in this crazy situation. And for that I have a lot of sympathy. But my life is too short and too rich to want to live as a badly sketched character in your story so that your followers can hate a life long progressive restrictionist as the architect of the worldās uncontrolled migration.
I can however do this. Read what I wrote 4 days ago. I posted the quoted response 100 hours ago when I thought this was one person. The Israel angle came about because I started to see accounts harass me that were fairly consistently anti-Jewish and/or anti-Israel. I do not mean to tar you with a broad brush if that doesnāt apply to you. Itās a statistical observation. I donāt know your politics. But the idea that I am the secret architect of the worldās migration system is utterly disconnected from reality as to defy easy explanation.
And please undo and disperse your mob of followers who you have convinced to harass me.
Bottom line, you are wrong. I donāt want you or your followers posing as critics demanding a conversation by harassing and threatening a stranger.
I am going to assume you personally are at worst neutral on Jews and on Israel. I apologize if I raised that unfairly from observing the accounts attacking me suddenly over being the UNās globalist migration czar. But I am not going to get into a back and forth over this Internet theory with an account stirring up its followers into a mob to harass a stranger.
Hope this help. Truly.
āDebate me Bro! Man up!ā
Every. Damn. Time.
Uhā¦I donāt know what world you live in. But that tactic is how you get blocked, not intellectually engaged. You are creeping me out.
Donāt take this the wrong way, but you are coming across as drama-seeking, rather than truth seeking. And I avoid such accounts like the plague.
I gave you my answer to one of your followers 4days ago.
I am reading what you write now in horror. Iām not interacting with you. See below. Iām sorry youāre here. But I donāt want to be sucked into your life drama, stranger.
Shabbat shalom.
@BeerBicepsGuy @amitvarma @prvkhvr Would be great fun. You're on. Thanks Ranveer!
Had a great time talking to Prakhar Gupta (@prvkhvr) on a last minute podcast, discussing US-India relations and beyond.
If you, like me, are looking to diversify your āWild Westā English language podcasting habit, India right now is the āWild Southā; it is just getting started at the point where @joerogan and @tferriss were when they were starting the US pirate radio/samizdat industry that is todayās long form podcasting.
Honestly, itās more than a little bit scary because as an American, you donāt know exactly where the cultural and political fault lines and sensitivities lie for millions of people who are listening to mixed Hindi/Urdu/English discussion.
That said: itās time. Let me know what you think and whether you would like more cross-cultural content. Thanks in advance.
LFG.
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P.S. Shout out to Hira Malaney for the Carmen Miranda āChico Chico from Puerto Ricoā uncredited and only half remembered reference in the podcast for ą¤ą„ą¤°ą„ ą¤ą„ą¤°ą„ ą¤ ą¤¬ą¤¾ą¤ą¤ą„ ą¤ą„ą¤°ą„.
@YouTribedi @prvkhvr You are more than kind. Thank you.
@PR20031992 @prvkhvr Totally fair. ;-)
@failed_comic @prvkhvr Amit was ground zero. But that one was also recorded in Bombay/Mumbai.
@InveStudentt Here we go againā¦. ;-)
I wanted to put Indiaās *best* foot forward. I was criticized for not talking about the full spectrum of Indiaās issues in doing so. Which, in fairness, I did not as a foreigner.
Better that you showcase that other foot so well for the world to see. Well done.
Next time: Donāt be an ass. š
Thatās so funny. I was in India not too long ago and they were just saying the same thing about Microsoft. https://t.co/M9CSJCJgVV
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Why do we continue to see India this way??
I am aware I am being a bit petty here as these setbacks in US/India relations seem endless to me. Sorry. But Iām very invested in a better relationship between the US and India. I go into more detail here:
Such a strange way to refer to Europeans. You know, that tribe who figured out even tempered harmony, movable type, the double helix, the grasshopper escapement, and general relativity.
I care. And I canāt begin to tell you how much. We should really pay attention to that tribe.
Ed, I donāt know you, but put āIndiansā or āZulusā or āThe Inuitā where you have āWhite peopleā (I.e. European Ancestry) and you will likely see the problem in what you wrote.
[Note to astute readers, āfigured outā is doing some lifting here. Not every post needs a footnote system however.]
2025[edit]
Q: How do you know someone does not know mathematics?
A: They are focused on beating China/India in math rather than France.
Q: How do you know if they donāt understand labor markets?
A: They claim we need āThe best and the brightest!ā when itās actually a *value* competition. https://t.co/zl9dr2NINu
We are having a discussion about mathematics led by business people who donāt actually themselves believe in mathematical expertise or labor market analysis or even free markets.
I donāt know what they think mathematics is. Itās very expensive to hire The Best & The Brightest. https://t.co/D0wguzWw4q
Looking to China/India in math is the *same* problem as looking up to Super Models and Boxers as role models.
I donāt think this is about mathematics.
I think this is about value for employers.
And I want it debated.
Mathematics remains dominated by Europe and North America: https://t.co/miJl6qvfrH
I would like to debate the following with @VivekGRamaswamy:
RESOLVED: The number one and number two threats to American STEM workers are American STEM employers and the political economy of Value Capture.
The Best and the Brightest are actually largely us and our NATO allies.
@k46913122 @VivekGRamaswamy Such a good question!
@VivekGRamaswamy Moral: When it comes to mathematics letās go to the top & take on the French!
We can do this. Nothing is impossible.
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@VivekGRamaswamy P.S. Sorry about the Graphics resolution above. Didnāt catch it in time. My bad. https://t.co/7otjKOlRfP
@gtrump_t *your
@gtrump_t Love ya!
Ah. Why are European-Americans suddenly so inferior at math since like 1998? Why are the people of Newton, Einstein, Dirac, Crick, Feynman, Heisenberg etc suddenly no longer able to do first rate science? Excellent question!
Do you want the brutal answer? Those "white kids" are being forced into trying to figure out how to capture the value created by those brown kids, because STEM careers in actual research have cratered in prestige, freedom, support and compensation. It's awful. But true. Do you want to raise a serf?
I'm torn. Which is why I fight for scientists to capture wealth; science is my life, but I cannot stand the exploitation and abuse.
You actually know this already, you just don't realize it. How many STEM researchers and research scientists have you seen at Mar-a-Lago in photos and stories? Name them. Try.
When you think modern AI do you think about the 8 authors of the Transformer LLM architecture that changed our entire world with one paper? Can you name them? Any of them? Or do you think Altman, Musk, Zuckerberg, etc. like the rest of us (myself included)? Be honest. You think C-Suite or Sand Hill road VCs.
The researchers simply vanish or become businessmen.
We too often erase the people who do the actual STEM research. The PhD most responsible for the GFP revolution in biology (Douglas Prasher) got to drive a shuttle bus in Alabama for his career. Those who exploited his research felt so bad that they flew him to Stokholm to watch *them* get the Nobel prize. It's totally insane. No one knows this because we keep looking to Billionaires...those who capture the most value...to represent STEM.
STEM rests on "SCIENCE COOLIES". That is what a UCSF lab head (PI) called his army of Chinese and Indian biologists in an interview with me around 2000: "My Science Coolies tell me..."
The absence of white kids is because they generally come from native English speaking families before the 1965 immigration act that have been in the US a long time. Thus they get accurate information that grueling STEM research careers are now a terrible investment due to STEM EMPLOYER practices (e.g. H-1B, illegal collusion, lobbying) and the abandonment of STEM by the Federal Government beginning with the Mansfield ammendment 50+ years ago. They will eventually almost all move from the lab bench, the blackboard and the command line to signing pieces of paper in VC shops or Private Equity or some such higher value endeavor. We in STEM are all being pushed from creating the value to capturing the value. It's awful.
"ą¤ą„ą¤°ą„ ą¤¬ą¤ą„ą¤ą„ ą¤Æą¤¹ą¤¾ą¤ ą¤ą„ą¤Æą¤¾ ą¤ą¤° ą¤°ą¤¹ą„ ą¤¹ą„ą¤?" or something like it is what I heard in New Jersey when our family traveled to the science fair. Literally asking "Why are there white kids here?" Can you imagine?? In New Jersey!
Those Tamil and Bengali Brahmins from English speaking households will soon leave research too, to be replaced by Nepalese and Biharis. Then they will all get the message as well and search for non-research jobs.
Before long you will see a push for Vietnamese and Cambodians. The Nigerians, Philipinos and Ethiopeans will be welcomed, but will soon depart in turn as the STEM employers continue to search for servants and 'coolies' anywhere they can find them. All using one bizarre mantra "The Best and the Brightest!"
Because the employers treat researchers like servants. Fungible geeks. That is the culture we have to break.
Those brilliant brown American kids winning our Olympiads will dream of flying Business Class. Maybe even First Class one day. Those equally brilliant white kids who would have loved to do science leaving the olympiads, now dream of not even being on the same airplane as long as they are also avoiding coach.
Sorry "Cornered Hindu". I hate it. But you asked. Don't shoot the messenger.
@sdixitmd I froze when I heard it. The individual didnāt even stop to notice.
@IndianTintin_ @mxtaverse No. Because it is misstructured as a transfer of wealth from American Labor to American Capital. Migrants are the tool not the problem. Itās fixable without baring extraordinary migrants.
I want the best. And enjoy going to India or Turkey etc to find them.
Indian community would like a word. As would Ethiopiaā¦and Moroccoā¦ https://t.co/yPFQwZII6z
Groups so bad/lazy at STEM, that they *must* now import the best & brightest.
Letās just stop lying about STEM labor. https://t.co/JSAKElPmJo
@desiafterdark Heād be a pretty pro-India one. Heās just also pro Europe and pro USA as well.
What I donāt put up with is slights against Americans or Europeans. Including Americans of Indian Descent.
My friend piano virtuoso @gregspero and I were talking about connecting the US & India.
So I challenged him with a song/tune/groove I love, known as āDam Mast Qalandarā in Pakistan, but āTu Cheez Bardi Haiā in India.
Here is what he composed over it! https://t.co/taFtQghdn6
I loved it! If you know the song, tell me what you think and consider following @gregspero and giving this first song in the series a retweet to encourage more of these.
Here is the Bollywood version starting around 23 seconds in:
Headed to India at some point relatively soon. Would be open to doing the right kind of speaking gig(s) particularly on deepening new US-India understanding(s) if it happened to work time-wise.
Q: Who, if anyone, is putting on this kind of programming in the bigger cities? Thx!
@paramvora7 @kushal_mehra Met with him Last time Around! Learned a lot.
āI tell you old beanā¦there I was navigating the mangrove jungles of Indjah, when a communist pirate assault ship ambushing us from behind a river bend, forced us to retreat beneath the safety of my old friend, the poisonous odollam fruit tree.
Of course, I was very very drunk.ā https://t.co/q69SXmiUWN
@ItsSelenaMaris Except thatā¦butā¦oh never mind. https://t.co/etln7igCBm
I just donāt understand not loving India.
Mostly this storyā¦from yesterdayā¦wasā¦sortaā¦kindaā¦true!
Oddly, the most ą¤®ą¤æą¤°ą„ą¤ ą¤®ą¤øą¤¾ą¤²ą¤¾ in this story was that I wasnāt drunkā¦yet.
@conord2389 Down south https://t.co/szOGRuQ4LT
Particularly if you exile anyone who proposes one as if he farted in church.
@Mossy_Sparks Iām in India.
@Mossy_Sparks Seriously?
Straight outta Bandraā¦
Now, getting some feedback from non-Indians unfamiliar with the Bombay Badmaashes of Indiaās Untriggered Podcast. Check it out here:
2026[edit]
When the Jihadi Psychotics decided where to kill in Bombay in 2008, they came straight here. The Leopold Cafe.
Irani cafe culture is still strong in India. Welcoming. Sophisticated, and Diverse. Radical Islam knows its enemy is Persians. So we make sure to visit for a drink. https://t.co/t7AbLB4aLY
Islamic intolerants know that they have always been at war with the culture(s) of Iran which Iranians and Persians carry with them in the diaspora.
They massacred 11 souls here in this one famous cosmopolitan cafe in Colaba. Just massacred them. Tourists. Indians. Persians. https://t.co/knE166AueK
I donāt post that much about this, but two of my favorite cities, those truly closest to my Heart, are Istanbul and Bombay.
The 2008 attacks by jihadis in 2008 near Colaba, still feel like an open wound.
The ear splitting 4am loudspeakers in Bebek are a show of force by Anatolian intolerants against the Modern Turks just trying to get through a day.
In both cities we have seen our Jewish sanctuaries turned into killing grounds. Neve Shalom famously in Istanbul.
But in Bombay, Nariman House is here on the street where our family lived for decades.
Here. Take a look at what Islamic militancy really is. They havenāt repared the killing zone. They cleaned up the blood and flesh but otherwise left the wound open, so you donāt look away at what āIslamic resistanceā really is.
Itās murder:
Islamic extremists and intolerants hate each other. They hate themselves. They hate Muslims. They hate Iranians.
They simply hate us *all* by extension.
That is why we must choose life.
To the Jihadi militant, we Jews are merely the worldās oldest and strongest Life-Cult.
I donāt chant for their death. I just pray for Iran to throw off its oppressor and everyone to wake up to the beauty of this one life we are all granted.
To those in Iran. I donāt envy you.
We all need you heroes to win. Send video when you can.
Salam alaykum. Good luck.
I wish you all courage, and am sorry for your staggering losses. Truly.
@ArAIstotle @ye_dennis @grok You want to check Nariman House too @grok. Iām not making this up.
@grok @ArAIstotle @ye_dennis Thanks @grin. How about the 4am ear splitting Loudspeakers in Bebek and all over Istanbul? Am I right that changed from 40 years ago?
@AOR519555889776 I believe they are still behind the pictures.
Recorded in India last month.
Had a blast. Episode to drop shortly. https://t.co/FMB3nEs4JE
@BrentLewis37 @grok Itās @BeerBicepsGuy of @TheRanveerShow. I take it you are not Indianā¦ ;-)
@grok @BrentLewis37 No. Ranveer.
Donāt tell me all Indian podcasters look alike ? ;-)
Never. But it is a topic of great confusion.
Goyims is first of all just wrong. Goyim is a Hebrew masculine plural already. So I would say Goyim. Never Goyims.
And in order to understand Jews, you need to know context. If someone says Goy or Goyim, what is the context? Is it slang? In the speaker knowledgable or ignorant? Is it Hebrew or Yiddish?
Israel is itself a āGoyā. Heroic Oscar Schindler is too. As is Nick Fuentes. But not in the same sense. So itās confusing. Yet I would use the same word for all three. How is that possible?
Goy means nation. āThe Holy Nationā or āgoy k'doshā is how HaShem/g-d sees Israel in Exodus 19:6.
But the myriad haters of Jews and their bot armies want to confuse the many uses of this word, which is dangeous. So we should fearlessly sort it out. There is nothing to be ashamed of here.
Letās get @grok to weigh in and do this as a proper dialogue.
Am I misrepresenting this @grok?
Uh, @grok. You out there? Donāt be afraid.
Phew! I though you were turning into a pussy on this.
Okay. So can we talk a bit about the same word in Yiddish and Hebrew? Am I right that it is particularly in Yiddish where it *can* pick up a derogatory tone? My family is split between Mizrahi Jews who donāt speak any Yiddish and Ashkenazi Jews who do.
And even among the Ashkenazi we use it in radically different ways.
Baruch HaShem! Thanks @grok. Have you ever considered how odd it is that Indians refer to India as ą¤¦ą„ą¤¶ or Desh and themselves as Desis as a result? It literally means country! Like there are no other countries.
Similarly for HaEretz in Hebrew. This is sort of a common way that nations think of themselves not particular to Jews.
Exactly. When I am in Israel @grok, I literally say I am in āIn the countryā. Nobody asks which country. ×××Øׄ makes it clear! Itās a Jewish-centric version of the world. Just like āSheās desi you know.ā is indo-centric.
Okay. So letās get to the controversy.
I claim we Ashkenazi Jews unusually use Goy/Nation for gentiles in three totally different ways.
Neutrally.
Pejoratively.
And in an elevated sense.
Can you handle this? Or too edgy?
Perfect. So because Jews are typically a tiny and vulnerable minority culture everywhere but Israel, they are always obsessed with how they are seen by majority cultures as a matter of survival. Letās just be open about this. Do you know the phrase āShanda fir di goyim?ā As in āEpstein the psychopath paskudnyak is the biggest Shanda fir di goyim since Leopold and Loeb!ā
This is neutral usage or mildly elevated usage. The gentiles matter here. And this is Jewish dreck that we have to clean up. But it is a recognition of responsibility to police our own. Am I wrong?
I want to tell a joke that indicate a pejoritive usage. Donāt freak out. Itās not that bad.
Q: Why did god create the goyim? A: Think about it: somebody had to pay retail!
The old joke actually pokes fun at both Jewish and gentile stereotypes. Jews as penny pinching shopkeepers obsessed with āI can get it for you wholesale!ā Rosh Katan mentality. And gentiles as blithely unaware that they donāt need to pay retail markups if they just āknow a guyā.
Fair?
The last is reverence and love for our non Jewish friends and heroes.
We use this very bizarre phrase for those who risked their lives to save Jews. āThe Righteous Among the Nations.ā
We use this concept of ānationā as more or less our highest honor. Even though these are individuals. Not coutries. Itās conceptually very confusing @grok. Even for jews.
@jakeshieldsajj WTF?