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|content="[The] likelihood of two geniuses getting together before my eyes here at Cavendish seemed so small that I did not even consider it." -[[Erwin Chargaff|E.C.]]
|content="[The] likelihood of two geniuses getting together before my eyes here at Cavendish seemed so small that I did not even consider it." -[[Erwin Chargaff|E.C.]]
|timestamp=3:21 AM · Jun 16, 2009
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|content=The earlier quote of [[Erwin Chargaff|Chargaff]] on [[Jim Watson|Watson]]-[[Francis Crick|Crick]] is not yet on a regular web page? May I back out that it is of minor importance?
|content=The earlier quote of [[Erwin Chargaff|Chargaff]] on [[Jim Watson|Watson]]-[[Francis Crick|Crick]] is not yet on a regular web page? May I back out that it is of minor importance?
|timestamp=3:34 AM · Jun 16, 2009
|timestamp=3:34 AM · Jun 16, 2009
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|content=Imagine before [[Jim Watson|Watson]]-[[Francis Crick|Crick]] I asked you: "Go nuts. What could possibly make [[Erwin Chargaff|Chargaff's]] Equimolar rules gorgeous, motivated and canonical?"
|content=Imagine before [[Jim Watson|Watson]]-[[Francis Crick|Crick]] I asked you: "Go nuts. What could possibly make [[Erwin Chargaff|Chargaff's]] Equimolar rules gorgeous, motivated and canonical?"
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|content=Ever heard an organized religion complain that G-d would never slap some butt ugly quartic potential on the world to give it mass?
|content=Ever heard an organized religion complain that G-d would never slap some butt ugly quartic potential on the world to give it mass?
|timestamp=2:33 AM · Sep 2, 2009
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|content=To Dave Bacon: "Butt ugly" referred to the present motivation for the Higgs terms as intellectual spackle. Soft mass won't likely stay ugly
|content=To Dave Bacon: "Butt ugly" referred to the present motivation for the Higgs terms as intellectual spackle. Soft mass won't likely stay ugly
|timestamp=3:39 AM · Sep 2, 2009
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|content=Higgs mass is akin to the once poorly motivated "neutral currents" rejected by [[Richard Feynman|Feynman]] as merely invoked for renormalizabilty. Now: not so.
|content=Higgs mass is akin to the once poorly motivated "neutral currents" rejected by [[Richard Feynman|Feynman]] as merely invoked for renormalizabilty. Now: not so.
|timestamp=3:49 AM · Sep 2, 2009
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|content=Challenge to my physics followers: what could possibly make the Mexican Hat quartic gorgeous, natural and canonical? #daretodream
|content=Challenge to my physics followers: what could possibly make the Mexican Hat quartic gorgeous, natural and canonical? #daretodream
|timestamp=3:53 AM · Sep 2, 2009
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|content=[[Erwin Chargaff|Chargaff's]] "Heraclitean Fire: Sketches from a Life Before Nature": The greatest scientific autobiography you will never read.
|content=[[Erwin Chargaff|Chargaff's]] "Heraclitean Fire: Sketches from a Life Before Nature": The greatest scientific autobiography you will never read.
|timestamp=5:25 PM · Oct 28, 2009
|timestamp=5:25 PM · Oct 28, 2009
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|content=Before the double helix, [[Erwin Chargaff]] put forward that the structure of DNA should be.......anyone?......a mobius band(?!).
|content=Before the double helix, [[Erwin Chargaff]] put forward that the structure of DNA should be.......anyone?......a mobius band(?!).
|timestamp=7:01 PM · Nov 4, 2009
|timestamp=7:01 PM · Nov 4, 2009
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|content="It has been found experimentally...." begins the sentence in theorists Watson & Crick's note sticking it to Chargaff. Why let that through?
|content="It has been found experimentally...." begins the sentence in theorists Watson & Crick's note sticking it to Chargaff. Why let that through?
|timestamp=7:34 AM · Dec 14, 2009
|timestamp=7:34 AM · Dec 14, 2009
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|content=It is entirely unexplained how after the helicies, Watson would be 1st to DNA->RNA->Protein & Crick to Adapters (T RNA) were Chargaff right.
|content=It is entirely unexplained how after the helicies, Watson would be 1st to DNA->RNA->Protein & Crick to Adapters (T RNA) were Chargaff right.
|timestamp=12:02 AM · Feb 16, 2010
|timestamp=12:02 AM · Feb 16, 2010
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|content=Disagree....but I recognize these are solid points! It’s great to know where we will pick up when next we meet. I’m always happy to boost your fearless independent voice just as you boost ours! It’s a great read. Thanks @skdh.
|content=Disagree....but I recognize these are solid points! It’s great to know where we will pick up when next we meet. I’m always happy to boost your fearless independent voice just as you boost ours! It’s a great read. Thanks @skdh.
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|content=In "Lost in Math", @skdh has written a necessary book that I've always hoped someone would never write. It lays out the argument that "Beauty" is a dangerous Siren for physics, which is almost always true. Except, unfairly, for a tiny top tier.
|content=In "Lost in Math", @skdh has written a necessary book that I've always hoped someone would never write. It lays out the argument that "Beauty" is a dangerous Siren for physics, which is almost always true. Except, unfairly, for a tiny top tier.


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|content=Sabine. Is that close to how you see it? Spinors and Curvature tensors and Symplectic forms as time dependent beauty norms? I don’t buy it.  
|content=Sabine. Is that close to how you see it? Spinors and Curvature tensors and Symplectic forms as time dependent beauty norms? I don’t buy it.  


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|content=Interesting. May I make the counter argument? There are only 5 Platonic solids. Only 4 normed division algebras. 5 exceptional Lie algebras.  Etc. All of those are like Spinors & the Dirac operator in that they are provably best possible structures. Advanced beings do no better.
|content=Interesting. May I make the counter argument? There are only 5 Platonic solids. Only 4 normed division algebras. 5 exceptional Lie algebras.  Etc. All of those are like Spinors & the Dirac operator in that they are provably best possible structures. Advanced beings do no better.
|timestamp=7:51 AM · Jun 29, 2018
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|content=Advanced beings know that there is no simpler Lagrangians made from curvature tensors alone than the Hilbert (Riemannian) and Yang Mills Maxwell (Ehresmannian)  lagrangians. They may see more, but in this essential effective layer, this is the maximally beautiful thing to find.
|content=Advanced beings know that there is no simpler Lagrangians made from curvature tensors alone than the Hilbert (Riemannian) and Yang Mills Maxwell (Ehresmannian)  lagrangians. They may see more, but in this essential effective layer, this is the maximally beautiful thing to find.
|timestamp=7:56 AM · Jun 29, 2018
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|content=That wasn’t my point. Icosahedrons aren’t seemingly relevant to astrophysics. But the genius of selection does choose them for T4 phage capsids. [[Erwin Chargaff|Chargaff]] thought DNA would be a beautiful Möbius band. He was lead astray by beauty. But [[Jim Watson|Watson]]&[[Francis Crick|Crick]] found the correct Helical beauty.
|content=That wasn’t my point. Icosahedrons aren’t seemingly relevant to astrophysics. But the genius of selection does choose them for T4 phage capsids. [[Erwin Chargaff|Chargaff]] thought DNA would be a beautiful Möbius band. He was lead astray by beauty. But [[Jim Watson|Watson]]&[[Francis Crick|Crick]] found the correct Helical beauty.
|timestamp=1:44 PM · Jun 29, 2018
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|content=My point was that in math we can exclude the idea of higher beings finding more of many beautiful structures that we know. And Clifford algebras, curvature tensors & quantization structures are now permanently part of this mathematical canon of provably best “stacked” objects.
|content=My point was that in math we can exclude the idea of higher beings finding more of many beautiful structures that we know. And Clifford algebras, curvature tensors & quantization structures are now permanently part of this mathematical canon of provably best “stacked” objects.
|timestamp=1:51 PM · Jun 29, 2018
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|content=I agree with you that beauty can and does lead people astray. I also agree that nature doesn’t have to be simple: @garrettlisi’s program is likely a complicated attempt at explaining the world without leaving beauty as a North Star. And I fear it won’t work for him.
|content=I agree with you that beauty can and does lead people astray. I also agree that nature doesn’t have to be simple: @garrettlisi’s program is likely a complicated attempt at explaining the world without leaving beauty as a North Star. And I fear it won’t work for him.
|timestamp=1:54 PM · Jun 29, 2018
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|content=My two respectful disagreements:
|content=My two respectful disagreements:


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|content=@AngloRemnant He went to darker places than he needed to. Very unnecessary. We needed his story. As it actually happened.
|content=@AngloRemnant He went to darker places than he needed to. Very unnecessary. We needed his story. As it actually happened.
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|content=You specifically mean the book Paul?
|content=You specifically mean the book Paul?


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|content=Elated that Rosalind Franklin has received so much well-deserved Posthumous attention.
|content=Elated that Rosalind Franklin has received so much well-deserved Posthumous attention.


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|content=Q: How do you know someone is grinding an Axe against [[Jim Watson]]?  
|content=Q: How do you know someone is grinding an Axe against [[Jim Watson]]?  


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|content=The story of the Double Helix is precisely the story of the decisive triumph of Great Science *over* Good Science.
|content=The story of the Double Helix is precisely the story of the decisive triumph of Great Science *over* Good Science.


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|content=We’re not going to prettify history. [[Jim Watson|Jim]] was scientifically irresponsible. Chauvinist. Rude. Arrogant. Pigheaded. Frequently Ignorant. Dismissive. Often wrong.
|content=We’re not going to prettify history. [[Jim Watson|Jim]] was scientifically irresponsible. Chauvinist. Rude. Arrogant. Pigheaded. Frequently Ignorant. Dismissive. Often wrong.


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|content=So if you want to call attention to the fact that she got screwed, bring up Donohue and [[Erwin Chargaff|Chargaff]] and the whole crew and get the attributions right.
|content=So if you want to call attention to the fact that she got screwed, bring up Donohue and [[Erwin Chargaff|Chargaff]] and the whole crew and get the attributions right.


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|content=Do you know all these players and the histories @grok? I’ve been all over this story for years. Care to fill this out or correct me wherever I am wrong? I’m all ears.
|content=Do you know all these players and the histories @grok? I’ve been all over this story for years. Care to fill this out or correct me wherever I am wrong? I’m all ears.
|timestamp=4:31 AM · Nov 8, 2025
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|content=She was actually correct that it didn’t have to be a helix! Also, she probably was correct that Watson had helix envy based on Pauling’s alpha-helix model which became secondary structure in protein. That was good science. And it BLOCKED her vision.
|content=She was actually correct that it didn’t have to be a helix! Also, she probably was correct that Watson had helix envy based on Pauling’s alpha-helix model which became secondary structure in protein. That was good science. And it BLOCKED her vision.
|timestamp=4:35 AM · Nov 8, 2025
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|content=Well, remember that Crick and Watson also created a strikingly similar failed triple helix model with the sugars on the inside! They went through total humiliation. They failed!!! She didn’t. And thus she lost.
|content=Well, remember that Crick and Watson also created a strikingly similar failed triple helix model with the sugars on the inside! They went through total humiliation. They failed!!! She didn’t. And thus she lost.
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|content=You realize we are going to face an angry mob of tiki torches for pointing out the history, right?  
|content=You realize we are going to face an angry mob of tiki torches for pointing out the history, right?  


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|content=Thanks my chip based friend. Shabbat shalom boychick.
|content=Thanks my chip based friend. Shabbat shalom boychick.
|timestamp=4:44 AM · Nov 8, 2025
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