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|content=I am not looking to āEscape Earthā. I want to escape running a single undiversified experiment in human consciousness survivability. | |content=I am not looking to āEscape Earthā. I want to escape running a single undiversified experiment in human consciousness survivability. | ||
Where I appear to differ w @elonmusk is just that I donāt yet see the claimed diversity benefit from Mars via Rockets. But I may not get his plan. | Where I appear to differ w @elonmusk is just that I donāt yet see the claimed diversity benefit from Mars via [[Chemical Rockets|Rockets]]. But I may not get his plan. | ||
|timestamp=8:55 AM Ā· Mar 19, 2021 | |timestamp=8:55 AM Ā· Mar 19, 2021 | ||
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|content=The idea that we canāt spend money on trying to diversify humanity beyond one planetary surface with nukes, bio hacking & climate issues until we have solved problems here is ludicrous. | |content=The idea that we canāt spend money on trying to diversify humanity beyond one planetary surface with nukes, bio hacking & climate issues until we have solved problems here is ludicrous. | ||
By the same token, rockets canāt be the answer to spacefaring. Our solar neighborhood sucks. | By the same token, [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]] canāt be the answer to spacefaring. Our solar neighborhood sucks. | ||
|timestamp=3:41 PM Ā· Mar 25, 2021 | |timestamp=3:41 PM Ā· Mar 25, 2021 | ||
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So I get taking #btc. And I get not taking #btc. But not doing it to undo it over energy(?) concerns. | So I get taking #btc. And I get not taking #btc. But not doing it to undo it over energy(?) concerns. | ||
With Rockets, you can maybe get Mars/Moon for planetary diversification. Thatās *not* enough even *if* you get it done (a huge āifā). | With [[Chemical Rockets|Rockets]], you can maybe get Mars/Moon for planetary diversification. Thatās *not* enough even *if* you get it done (a huge āifā). | ||
Relativity is what must be superceded. | Relativity is what must be superceded. | ||
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|content=Iām usually see @elonmusk as one of the few seeing our long game. This feels bizarre so Iām not getting something. | |content=Iām usually see @elonmusk as one of the few seeing our long game. This feels bizarre so Iām not getting something. | ||
Why do #BTC only to undo it in the face of the easily foreseeable? This and focus on Rocket propulsion(?) over fundamental physics are 2 things I clearly donāt get. | Why do #BTC only to undo it in the face of the easily foreseeable? This and focus on [[Chemical Rockets|Rocket propulsion(?)]] over fundamental physics are 2 things I clearly donāt get. | ||
|timestamp=1:37 AM Ā· May 13, 2021 | |timestamp=1:37 AM Ā· May 13, 2021 | ||
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|content=My issue has been āHow can the richest man worried that we have to preserve human consciousness focus on Rockets(?)&Mars, when he has a physics background & the ability to personally lead an attack on getting beyond Einsteinās limits?ā | |content=My issue has been āHow can the richest man worried that we have to preserve human consciousness focus on [[Chemical Rockets|Rockets(?)]]&Mars, when he has a physics background & the ability to personally lead an attack on getting beyond Einsteinās limits?ā | ||
Thinking: āSo, survival isnāt real either?ā | Thinking: āSo, survival isnāt real either?ā | ||
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|content=I think thatās great. Where we differ is that I donāt think Earth, our Moon & Mars plus space stations connected by rockets give us much real diversity. Itās barely doable. But assume you could make it work. I would want to run 1000s of uncorrelated experiments as most will fail. | |content=I think thatās great. Where we differ is that I donāt think Earth, our Moon & Mars plus space stations connected by [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]] give us much real diversity. Itās barely doable. But assume you could make it work. I would want to run 1000s of uncorrelated experiments as most will fail. | ||
|timestamp=6:30 PM Ā· Sep 01, 2021 | |timestamp=6:30 PM Ā· Sep 01, 2021 | ||
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|content=Letās be clear about this weird sounding issue. | |content=Letās be clear about this weird sounding issue. | ||
@elonmusk is one of the only minds properly focused in public on the issue of the current danger to human consciousness from having all known intelligent life in the universe on a single terrestrial surface. His top idea: rockets. | @elonmusk is one of the only minds properly focused in public on the issue of the current danger to human consciousness from having all known intelligent life in the universe on a single terrestrial surface. His top idea: [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]]. | ||
|timestamp=6:30 PM Ā· Sep 01, 2021 | |timestamp=6:30 PM Ā· Sep 01, 2021 | ||
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|content=#OccupyMars is good, but #FreeThePhysicists isnāt even as popular as #FreeTheNipple or #FreeBeer Ā | |content=<nowiki>#</nowiki>OccupyMars is good, but #FreeThePhysicists isnāt even as popular as #FreeTheNipple or #FreeBeer Ā | ||
Take a look around you. Much as I love it, this place is likely going to blow. Ā | Take a look around you. Much as I love it, this place is likely going to blow. Ā | ||
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|content=Either way I want to encourage him. But I want to know why rockets over physics. Why not both? Why is a physics guy w a HUGE risk appetite not trying to do for Einstein & his speed limit what Einstein did for Newtonās Gravity? If you know the answer, Iād love to know it as well. | |content=Either way I want to encourage him. But I want to know why [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]] over physics. Why not both? Why is a physics guy w a HUGE risk appetite not trying to do for Einstein & his speed limit what Einstein did for Newtonās Gravity? If you know the answer, Iād love to know it as well. | ||
|timestamp=6:30 PM Ā· Sep 01, 2021 | |timestamp=6:30 PM Ā· Sep 01, 2021 | ||
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|content=COVID could be climate destruction. It could be ocean poisoning. It could be nuclear fallout. It represents how what happens in one location will no longer stay there. It will get everywhere. | |content=COVID could be climate destruction. It could be ocean poisoning. It could be nuclear fallout. It represents how what happens in one location will no longer stay there. It will get everywhere. | ||
At this point we have physics, rockets & isolation if we want to avoid one shared fate. | At this point we have physics, [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]] & isolation if we want to avoid one shared fate. | ||
|timestamp=11:50 PM Ā· Oct 22, 2021 | |timestamp=11:50 PM Ā· Oct 22, 2021 | ||
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|content=Iām not against @elonmuskās rocket agenda. Super impressive. Ā | |content=Iām not against @elonmuskās [[Chemical Rockets|rocket]] agenda. Super impressive. Ā | ||
But I totally disbelieve we are going to terraform Moon and/or Mars anytime soon using rockets. And if we do? We simply get two more spheres with rockets to safeguard the only know intelligent conscious life we know. | But I totally disbelieve we are going to terraform Moon and/or Mars anytime soon using [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]]. And if we do? We simply get two more spheres with [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]] to safeguard the only know intelligent conscious life we know. | ||
|timestamp=11:50 PM Ā· Oct 22, 2021 | |timestamp=11:50 PM Ā· Oct 22, 2021 | ||
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|content= | |content=Finally. (Yes)**100 | ||
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|content=Thatās what I was thinking too! | |||
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|content= | |content=@elonmusk, point blank: why not save the independence of physics so that it can attempt not to break the speed of light, but to render Einstein an *effective* theory. We canāt use [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]] to do much. We are talking pennies to you. I just donāt get it. Why is this even an ask???? | ||
|timestamp=5:37 AM Ā· Nov 19, 2021 | |timestamp=5:37 AM Ā· Nov 19, 2021 | ||
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|content= | |content=It may be a waste of money. But it is far more likely to render Einsteinās speed limit irrelevant in a deeper theory, than it is to terraform Mars and stay in this regime of hopelessness. You could dwarf the @the_IAS. Send a jolt of optimism to end the postmodern nonsense. | ||
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|timestamp=5:37 AM Ā· Nov 19, 2021 | |timestamp=5:37 AM Ā· Nov 19, 2021 | ||
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|content=$100m for theoretical physics. Just explain to me why this isnāt obvious. Do rockets all you want. | |content=$100m for theoretical physics. Just explain to me why this isnāt obvious. Do [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]] all you want. | ||
I simply donāt believe that $10B is worth that much to you. Surely you have bigger dreams for your own fieldās hope of solving the problem you talk about all the time. | I simply donāt believe that $10B is worth that much to you. Surely you have bigger dreams for your own fieldās hope of solving the problem you talk about all the time. | ||
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|content= | |content=We should talk. But you should also be talking to @stephen_wolfram, @DavidDeutschOxf, @notevenwrong (Woit), Penrose, @garrettlisi, Julian Barbour, to say nothing of Nima, Lisa, Ed, Juan, Nati, etc. Our window is closing from groupthink and neglect. | ||
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But you do you. And good luck! | |||
|timestamp=5:37 AM Ā· Nov 19, 2021 | |timestamp=5:37 AM Ā· Nov 19, 2021 | ||
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|content=@very_real_guy @elonmusk He had made other noises. Mostly itās rockets, crypto, batteries and engineering. But there is more going on. He clearly knows that Mars aināt gonna be sufficient. I canāt shake the feeling he deeply gets it at another level from public Elon which is more cryptic and chaotic. | |content=@very_real_guy @elonmusk He had made other noises. Mostly itās [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]], crypto, batteries and engineering. But there is more going on. He clearly knows that Mars aināt gonna be sufficient. I canāt shake the feeling he deeply gets it at another level from public Elon which is more cryptic and chaotic. | ||
|timestamp=4:52 AM Ā· Dec 27, 2021 | |timestamp=4:52 AM Ā· Dec 27, 2021 | ||
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|content=@NotoriousMHB @elonmusk People always say thatā¦ ;-) | |content=@NotoriousMHB @elonmusk People always say thatā¦ ;-) | ||
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|timestamp=4:54 AM Ā· Dec 27, 2021 | |timestamp=4:54 AM Ā· Dec 27, 2021 | ||
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|content=@nostaticzone @elonmusk No. He is partially aware (Iām told) and physically knowledgeable, but curiously focused on rockets. At least so far. | |content=@nostaticzone @elonmusk No. He is partially aware (Iām told) and physically knowledgeable, but curiously focused on [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]]. At least so far. | ||
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Russia Invading Ukraine: a thermonuclear nation weaponizing the strong force fusion of the other nucleus (of the atom). Ā | Russia Invading Ukraine: a thermonuclear nation weaponizing the strong force fusion of the other nucleus (of the atom). Ā | ||
https:// | https://theportal.wiki/wiki/Twin_Nuclei_Problem | ||
|timestamp=5:06 PM Ā· Feb 24, 2022 | |timestamp=5:06 PM Ā· Feb 24, 2022 | ||
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|content=COVID and Russia as the Twin Nuclei Problem: listen again with fresh ears and an open mind. | |content=COVID and Russia as the Twin Nuclei Problem: listen again with fresh ears and an open mind. | ||
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|timestamp=5:06 PM Ā· Feb 24, 2022 | |timestamp=5:06 PM Ā· Feb 24, 2022 | ||
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|content=Time to see whether we can diversify off this planet via physics rather than rockets. Onwards. | |content=Time to see whether we can diversify off this planet via physics rather than [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]]. Onwards. | ||
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|content=It is far more likely that we will voyage the cosmos using new science, than that we will make Mars inhabitable using rocketry. | |content=It is far more likely that we will voyage the cosmos using new science, than that we will make Mars inhabitable using [[Chemical Rockets|rocketry]]. | ||
|timestamp=6:37 PM Ā· Mar 05, 2022 | |timestamp=6:37 PM Ā· Mar 05, 2022 | ||
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|content=Rockets aināt gonna cut it. Weāre gonna need a ābigger boatā. | |content=[[Chemical Rockets|Rockets]] aināt gonna cut it. Weāre gonna need a ābigger boatā. | ||
We need to take on the issue of *whether* we humans can get out of here to diversify our risk using *physics*. Not rockets. | We need to take on the issue of *whether* we humans can get out of here to diversify our risk using *physics*. Not [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]]. | ||
Rockets only buy us Mars. If that. Think bigger. #Physics | [[Chemical Rockets|Rockets]] only buy us Mars. If that. Think bigger. #Physics | ||
|timestamp=11:39 PM Ā· Jun 23, 2022 | |timestamp=11:39 PM Ā· Jun 23, 2022 | ||
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|content=@cornettd We will build tunnels. Ā | |content=@cornettd We will build tunnels. Ā | ||
We will build chemical rockets. | We will build [[Chemical Rockets|chemical rockets]]. | ||
That is not in doubt. | That is not in doubt. | ||
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Einstein then enforced house arrest to our solar system:1905-Now. | Einstein then enforced house arrest to our solar system:1905-Now. | ||
@elonmusk then said chemical rockets could get us 2 more spheres w Newtonian laws. | @elonmusk then said [[Chemical Rockets|chemical rockets]] could get us 2 more spheres w Newtonian laws. | ||
But survival hinges on going *beyond* Einstein, not back to Newton. | But survival hinges on going *beyond* Einstein, not back to Newton. | ||
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|content=@sneakin @elonmusk | |content=@sneakin @elonmusk | ||
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|timestamp=5:26 PM Ā· Sep 14, 2022 | |timestamp=5:26 PM Ā· Sep 14, 2022 | ||
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|content=Hereās a little secret. Some (e.g. @elonmusk) search for good human beings who are also great interviewers when their reach is still *small*. | |content=Hereās a little secret. Some (e.g. @elonmusk) search for good human beings who are also great interviewers when their reach is still *small*. | ||
I encourage such hosts not to ask the same questions everyone else does. I then try to help them get bigger by giving them new material. | I encourage such hosts not to ask the same questions everyone else does. I then try to help them get bigger by giving them new material. | ||
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|timestamp=3:50 PM Ā· Jan 25, 2023 | |timestamp=3:50 PM Ā· Jan 25, 2023 | ||
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|content=And thanks for *always* being a great and generous friend. Generosity beatsĀ Clout every time because it is so rare in social and new media where mean is everywhere. Ā | |content=And thanks for *always* being a great and generous friend. Generosity beatsĀ Clout every time because it is so rare in social and new media where mean is everywhere. Ā | ||
Remember: the beginning is the romantic phase. The best part. Canāt wait to see what you do. Good luck Nicole!š | Remember: the beginning is the romantic phase. The best part. Canāt wait to see what you do. Good luck Nicole!š | ||
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|content=@Bill_LessThan3 @elonmusk I donāt know him, but he is the only person I know who gets the need to diversify humanityās planetary habitats and is willing to say it in public. So that makes him a pivotal human to me, despite the many flaws we all have. Myself included. | |content=@Bill_LessThan3 @elonmusk I donāt know him, but he is the only person I know who gets the need to diversify humanityās planetary habitats and is willing to say it in public. So that makes him a pivotal human to me, despite the many flaws we all have. Myself included. | ||
My issue is about chemical rocketry. | My issue is about [[Chemical Rockets|chemical rocketry]]. | ||
|timestamp=4:07 PM Ā· Jan 25, 2023 | |timestamp=4:07 PM Ā· Jan 25, 2023 | ||
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|content=@witchcliff @DrDrhello10 @PiaMalaney @noatishby @LeahLamarr @Nature Let me ChatGPT that for you: | |content=@witchcliff @DrDrhello10 @PiaMalaney @noatishby @LeahLamarr @Nature Let me ChatGPT that for you: | ||
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|timestamp=10:32 PM Ā· Jan 25, 2023 | |timestamp=10:32 PM Ā· Jan 25, 2023 | ||
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Today Feb 1 marks the appearance of Kobayashi &Ā Maskawa's englargment of the Cabibo Angle to the three generation 3x3 CKM matrix. Ā | Today Feb 1 marks the appearance of Kobayashi &Ā Maskawa's englargment of the Cabibo Angle to the three generation 3x3 CKM matrix. Ā | ||
That should be cause for celebration. So let us celebrate! | That should be cause for celebration. So let us celebrate! | ||
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|timestamp=7:53 AM Ā· Feb 02, 2023 | |timestamp=7:53 AM Ā· Feb 02, 2023 | ||
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|content=Unfortunately, it also marks the end of what we can be certain actually is physics. | |content=Unfortunately, it also marks the end of what we can be certain actually is physics. | ||
Imagine if Elton John's "Crocodile Rock" was still the #1 song on Billboard's Hot 100 & Tony Orlando and Dawn were singing "Tie a Yellow Ribbon". That, in a nutshell, is fundamental phsyics. | Imagine if Elton John's "Crocodile Rock" was still the #1 song on Billboard's Hot 100 & Tony Orlando and Dawn were singing "Tie a Yellow Ribbon". That, in a nutshell, is fundamental phsyics. | ||
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|timestamp=7:53 AM Ā· Feb 02, 2023 | |timestamp=7:53 AM Ā· Feb 02, 2023 | ||
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|content=To be clear, It is not as if there are no Nobel Laureates recognized for fundamental discoveries in particle theory left. I believe we are down to the last 8. Half of them are in their 70s. One in his 80s. Three are nongenarians. Yes. It's that bad. And we're not honest about it. | |content=To be clear, It is not as if there are no Nobel Laureates recognized for fundamental discoveries in particle theory left. I believe we are down to the last 8. Half of them are in their 70s. One in his 80s. Three are nongenarians. Yes. It's that bad. And we're not honest about it. | ||
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|timestamp=7:53 AM Ā· Feb 02, 2023 | |timestamp=7:53 AM Ā· Feb 02, 2023 | ||
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|content=So I am celebrating today by pointing out the obvious: maybe it isn't a good idea to have people who haven't made contact with actual fundamental physics telling everyone else what they must and must not do to be members of a club that no longer works according to normal science. | |content=So I am celebrating today by pointing out the obvious: maybe it isn't a good idea to have people who haven't made contact with actual fundamental physics telling everyone else what they must and must not do to be members of a club that no longer works according to normal science. | ||
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|timestamp=7:53 AM Ā· Feb 02, 2023 | |timestamp=7:53 AM Ā· Feb 02, 2023 | ||
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|content=When you hear about "Peer Review" in this field, you have to understand that the field stopped working. Without nature telling us, we don't actually know who the physicists are any more. We have no idea who is a fundamental physicist. All we know is that what we do doesn't work. | |content=When you hear about "Peer Review" in this field, you have to understand that the field stopped working. Without nature telling us, we don't actually know who the physicists are any more. We have no idea who is a fundamental physicist. All we know is that what we do doesn't work. | ||
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|content=What fundamental physics really is, is (approximately) captured by the table below. In short, if someone is below the age of 70, they may have proven their brilliance and mathematical ability, but they have not proven any ability to make contact with reality as theorists. | |content=What fundamental physics really is, is (approximately) captured by the table below. In short, if someone is below the age of 70, they may have proven their brilliance and mathematical ability, but they have not proven any ability to make contact with reality as theorists. | ||
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|content=So what went wrong? I will be talking about my understanding of the stagnation this year at a different level. But the single greatest threat to fundamental physics in my estimation is something called "Quantum Gravity" which was really born 70 years ago around 1953. | |content=So what went wrong? I will be talking about my understanding of the stagnation this year at a different level. But the single greatest threat to fundamental physics in my estimation is something called "Quantum Gravity" which was really born 70 years ago around 1953. | ||
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|content=I will point out that our experimentalists are in FAR better shape. The massive nature of neutrinos, discovery of gravitational waves, the Higgs field, Intermediate Vector Bosons, Accelerating Expansion of the Universe/Dark Energy are all major successes over the last 50 years. | |content=I will point out that our experimentalists are in FAR better shape. The massive nature of neutrinos, discovery of gravitational waves, the Higgs field, Intermediate Vector Bosons, Accelerating Expansion of the Universe/Dark Energy are all major successes over the last 50 years. | ||
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|content=To put it bluntly, it is not just that Quantum Gravity doesn't work. It's that you can't comfortably question Quatnum Gravity because the failed investment is on a scale that I think is difficult for us to contemplate. It includes StringTheory, Loop Quantum Gravity, AdS/CFT etc. | |content=To put it bluntly, it is not just that Quantum Gravity doesn't work. It's that you can't comfortably question Quatnum Gravity because the failed investment is on a scale that I think is difficult for us to contemplate. It includes StringTheory, Loop Quantum Gravity, AdS/CFT etc. | ||
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|content=Next Year, will be 40 years of failure for modern StringTheory to ship a product. To be clear and STEELMAN the argument for strings, it *is* a remarkable framework. It is REAL math. It teaches us things no other framework has. | |content=Next Year, will be 40 years of failure for modern StringTheory to ship a product. To be clear and STEELMAN the argument for strings, it *is* a remarkable framework. It is REAL math. It teaches us things no other framework has. | ||
But, it *destroyed* the culture of honest physics. | But, it *destroyed* the culture of honest physics. | ||
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Uh. Bullshit. That is an excuse. It's not clear that it's physics at all. | Uh. Bullshit. That is an excuse. It's not clear that it's physics at all. | ||
It's a "Failed piece of 20th Century Physics still hanging around in the 21stC". | It's a "Failed piece of 20th Century Physics still hanging around in the 21stC". | ||
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|content=If we're going to truly wrestle w/ dark matter, or dark energy, or UAP that supposedly violate our laws of physics (e.g. General Relativity) we can't afford a leaders projecting their fears that THEY have wasted their lives, credibility and students careers on "Quantum Gravity". | |content=If we're going to truly wrestle w/ dark matter, or dark energy, or UAP that supposedly violate our laws of physics (e.g. General Relativity) we can't afford a leaders projecting their fears that THEY have wasted their lives, credibility and students careers on "[[Quantum Gravity]]". | ||
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|content="If you haven't succeeded in 50-70 years, what other theories would be viable if we relaxed the standards you have imposed on your competitors given that your theories do not seem to work? What if your Quantum Gravity were subjected to such standards? Would QG be quackery?"š | |content="If you haven't succeeded in 50-70 years, what other theories would be viable if we relaxed the standards you have imposed on your competitors given that your theories do not seem to work? What if your [[Quantum Gravity]] were subjected to such standards? Would QG be quackery?"š | ||
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|content=Let's honor those who tried before by bringing the same energy they once brought to the attempt to learn our place in the universe. Happy to be corrected. But this is an emergency if we're ever going to go beyond chemical rockets and use physics to take our place among the stars. | |content=Let's honor those who tried before by bringing the same energy they once brought to the attempt to learn our place in the universe. Happy to be corrected. But this is an emergency if we're ever going to go beyond [[Chemical Rockets|chemical rockets]] and use physics to take our place among the stars. | ||
|timestamp=8:00 AM Ā· Feb 02, 2023 | |timestamp=8:00 AM Ā· Feb 02, 2023 | ||
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|content="I remember when rock was young...š¶" | |content="I remember when rock was young...š¶" | ||
Let's get that energy back, by any means necessary. | Let's get that energy back, by any means necessary. | ||
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|content=@Pennywi25761697 For Classical Mechanics, from a math perspective I liked Arnoldās book. | |content=@Pennywi25761697 For Classical Mechanics, from a math perspective I liked Arnoldās book. | ||
Physicists all seem to use Jackson for E&M. But I would learn the bundle theoretic version where Maxwell becomes a single equation. GR I found Shlomo Sternbergās papers and Books very helpful. Or Wald. | Physicists all seem to use Jackson for E&M. But I would learn the bundle theoretic version where Maxwell becomes a single equation. GR I found Shlomo Sternbergās papers and Books very helpful. Or Wald. | ||
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|content=@Pennywi25761697 Also, I have been wanting to check out @seanmcarrollās books and lectures on introductory topics. He is usually very clear and extremely good at explaining things. I might even start there, but I personally havenāt gotten there as of yet so I canāt say for sure. | |content=@Pennywi25761697 Also, I have been wanting to check out @seanmcarrollās books and lectures on introductory topics. He is usually very clear and extremely good at explaining things. I might even start there, but I personally havenāt gotten there as of yet so I canāt say for sure. | ||
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|content=Are we still trapped here in this solar system, even after assuming complete knowledge of physics? What do you think? | |content=Are we still trapped here in this solar system, even after assuming complete knowledge of physics? What do you think? | ||
Q: Given full knowledge of physical law, the Cosmos well beyond the reach of rockets is likely: | Q: Given full knowledge of physical law, the Cosmos well beyond the reach of [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]] is likely: | ||
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|content=@elonmusk @ZihangDai @xai Finally: science beyond chemical rocketry! Just skipped physics and leapfrogged to AI apparently. Wild. | |content=@elonmusk @ZihangDai @xai Finally: science beyond [[Chemical Rockets|chemical rocketry]]! Just skipped physics and leapfrogged to AI apparently. Wild. | ||
|timestamp=11:44 PM Ā· Jul 12, 2023 | |timestamp=11:44 PM Ā· Jul 12, 2023 | ||
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We should hold a competition: who can figure out how to best make this argument and not sound crazy to the general public? | We should hold a competition: who can figure out how to best make this argument and not sound crazy to the general public? | ||
If I were to try to steelman what I find odd about Musk's position, I would say that anyone this smart is tempted to use Mars and Rockets to make "Interplanetary" *not* sound like "Interstellar". | If I were to try to steelman what I find odd about Musk's position, I would say that anyone this smart is tempted to use Mars and [[Chemical Rockets|Rockets]] to make "Interplanetary" *not* sound like "Interstellar". | ||
Perhaps I have been uncharitable if this is the case. It seemed self-evident to my mind that anyone smart enough to be able to see the necessity of moving to interplaentary objectives would gamble mostly on post-Einsteinian physics and not rockets as the Moon and Mars are totally inadequate to diversify our risk and that rockets get us little else. | Perhaps I have been uncharitable if this is the case. It seemed self-evident to my mind that anyone smart enough to be able to see the necessity of moving to interplaentary objectives would gamble mostly on post-Einsteinian physics and not [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]] as the Moon and Mars are totally inadequate to diversify our risk and that [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]] get us little else. | ||
But maybe the issue is that Musk truly understands people and that he has found the best argument to make interplanetary not sound insane. I admit, that I never considered that the point of SpaceX is a gateway to getting normal people to dream about what I have termed "restoring an indefinite human future" which was lost due to thermonuclear innovations of the 1950s. | But maybe the issue is that Musk truly understands people and that he has found the best argument to make interplanetary not sound insane. I admit, that I never considered that the point of SpaceX is a gateway to getting normal people to dream about what I have termed "restoring an indefinite human future" which was lost due to thermonuclear innovations of the 1950s. | ||
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|content=A question that I find fascinating: | |content=A question that I find fascinating: | ||
Do you think man is more likely to settle, Terraform and thrive on Mars via advances in Chemical Rockets or advances in Post-Relativity physics? | Do you think man is more likely to settle, Terraform and thrive on Mars via advances in [[Chemical Rockets]] or advances in Post-Relativity physics? | ||
I don't think it's a slam dunk either way. What do you think? | I don't think it's a slam dunk either way. What do you think? | ||
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|content=I should say that this formulation is inspired by @elonmusk. I myself never focused on Mars. I have never thought much about making our Moon or Mars habitable via Rockets. It seems marginally possible and I have very little to contribute on that issue. | |content=I should say that this formulation is inspired by @elonmusk. I myself never focused on Mars. I have never thought much about making our Moon or Mars habitable via [[Chemical Rockets|Rockets]]. It seems marginally possible and I have very little to contribute on that issue. | ||
But if I am focused only on the stars, then there is no known engineering problem to solve. And if Elon is focused solely on engineering problems, then we aren't going to the stars without a breakthrough in science. They are simply too far away. | But if I am focused only on the stars, then there is no known engineering problem to solve. And if Elon is focused solely on engineering problems, then we aren't going to the stars without a breakthrough in science. They are simply too far away. | ||
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|content=My personal guess is that terraforming mars via rockets is too hard a problem. I personally feel we are more likely to find a scientific way out of this solar system and find new exoplanets that are better suited. Ā | |content=My personal guess is that terraforming mars via [[Chemical Rockets|rockets]] is too hard a problem. I personally feel we are more likely to find a scientific way out of this solar system and find new exoplanets that are better suited. Ā | ||
But itās a guess. No one knows. Hence the question on the region of overlap: Mars. We waste time talking past each other . | But itās a guess. No one knows. Hence the question on the region of overlap: Mars. We waste time talking past each other . | ||
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Bottom Line: @skdh is far more in the right than her critics will acknowledge. But she is now at a new scale and these remarks are misleading in my opinion. | Bottom Line: @skdh is far more in the right than her critics will acknowledge. But she is now at a new scale and these remarks are misleading in my opinion. | ||
Fundamental Physics is, to me, what Mars and Rockets are to @elonmusk: manās only hope for long term survival. Ā | Fundamental Physics is, to me, what Mars and [[Chemical Rockets|Rockets]] are to @elonmusk: manās only hope for long term survival. Ā | ||
My belief is that @skdh is now so negative based on her egregious treatment at the hands of her community that her righteous position isĀ actually endangering physics itself in the era of @DOGE. | My belief is that @skdh is now so negative based on her egregious treatment at the hands of her community that her righteous position isĀ actually endangering physics itself in the era of @DOGE. | ||
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So far as I understand it, @elonmusk is motivated by Mars because he doesnāt see physics as viable. So Mars motivates an engineer. It can be attacked today without a change in Einsteinian physics or cracking the Standard Model. He must find physics enervating as it hasnāt moved. | So far as I understand it, @elonmusk is motivated by Mars because he doesnāt see physics as viable. So Mars motivates an engineer. It can be attacked today without a change in Einsteinian physics or cracking the Standard Model. He must find physics enervating as it hasnāt moved. | ||
I have the inverted reaction. Everyday I think about physics because I think it is doable. In fact, I think we will occupy Mars from Post Einsteinian physics before we get their with chemical rockets. I cannot explain why we have come to opposite conclusions. Ā | I have the inverted reaction. Everyday I think about physics because I think it is doable. In fact, I think we will occupy Mars from Post Einsteinian physics before we get their with [[Chemical Rockets|chemical rockets]]. I cannot explain why we have come to opposite conclusions. Ā | ||
I wish we were holding debates and conferences about what we can do to beat the clock as we have billions of eggs in one basket. But it isnāt sci fi. I just spoke about the Dark Energy in a physics department. Ā | I wish we were holding debates and conferences about what we can do to beat the clock as we have billions of eggs in one basket. But it isnāt sci fi. I just spoke about the Dark Energy in a physics department. Ā | ||
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Our top priority on earth is as clear to me as can be: we must do everything in technical fields to restore our indefinite human future that was lost in November of 1952. | Our top priority on earth is as clear to me as can be: we must do everything in technical fields to restore our indefinite human future that was lost in November of 1952. | ||
I honestly donāt know how anyone comes to a different conclusion. And if @elonmusk and I ever debate it out, I will move to his project if he can convince me chemical rockets are the way to go. I would like to think he would do the same if he became convinced that a change in our laws of physics is likely to work first. | I honestly donāt know how anyone comes to a different conclusion. And if @elonmusk and I ever debate it out, I will move to his project if he can convince me [[Chemical Rockets|chemical rockets]] are the way to go. I would like to think he would do the same if he became convinced that a change in our laws of physics is likely to work first. | ||
Itās not about ego. Itās not about science fiction. It is nakedly about one thing: loving humanity and the quest to restore an indefinite future. And traverse the cosmos. | Itās not about ego. Itās not about science fiction. It is nakedly about one thing: loving humanity and the quest to restore an indefinite future. And traverse the cosmos. | ||
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|content=Scientists and mathematicians urgently need a cutting edge post-Einsteinian Engineering project, the way Mars needs a chemical rocket project. | |content=Scientists and mathematicians urgently need a cutting edge post-Einsteinian Engineering project, the way Mars needs a [[Chemical Rockets|chemical rocket project]]. | ||
This is our womb, not our home. | This is our womb, not our home. | ||
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Weāll fund String Theory.</br> | Weāll fund String Theory.</br> | ||
Weāll do space exploration.</br> | Weāll do space exploration.</br> | ||
Weāll celebrate chemical rockets.</br> | Weāll celebrate [[Chemical Rockets|chemical rockets]].</br> | ||
Weāll have space stations.</br> | Weāll have space stations.</br> | ||
Weāll talk meta-materials.</br> | Weāll talk meta-materials.</br> | ||
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== Related Pages == | |||
* [[Twin Nuclei Problem]] | |||
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