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Pretty soon it’s stone soup. You’re no longer explaining things quickly at a party but you’re now teaching [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] courses at university.
Pretty soon it’s stone soup. You’re no longer explaining things quickly at a party but you’re now teaching [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] courses at university.
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|content=“If I could explain it to the average person, I wouldn't have been worth the Nobel Prize.” - [[Richard Feynman|Feynman]]


[[Richard Feynman|Feynman]] was not able to simply explain a great deal of things to many people. Including experts. I know that many of you find that shocking.


But Internet’s take is wrong here.
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|content=Said differently I’ve been bullish on positive externalities of mathematical physics. But a lot of great math that got done isn’t [[String Theory|string theory]]. It’s claimed to be stringy but it is really mostly mathematical physics or geometric field theory that is claimed by string theorists.
|content=Even the great [[Richard Feynman|Feynman]] said a great many meretricious things about science. Mostly because he wanted to speak in a powerful and overly simplistic fashion that lay people loved. “Hey, if I can’t understand you, it’s because YOU don’t get it! Ha.”
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Except that isn’t how this works.
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|content=Things got hard. They didn’t get hopeless.
|content=This is a description of how [[Richard Feynman|Feynman’s]] brilliant “Sum Over Histories” technique went over at the Pocono conference in the spring of 1948. Feynman wasn’t able to explain what he was doing to even the world’s very top experts in Theoretical Physics!


Yes we spent almost 40 years lying about [[String Theory|string theory]]. But we could stop today. We could have the leaders in the field admit they made a *colossal* bad bet & ask “What did we dispose of while we were wildly over-hyping [[String Theory|string theory]]?”
And how did he explain failure?
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|content=Its increasingly apparent to me that the next physics breakthrough is gonna be from #ai . Its humanly not possible anymore for theoretical physicists ..i was feeling it even around 2010
|content=Very simply: “My machines came from too far away.”
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The Internet needs to grow out of its expectation that it can use what is possibly [[Richard Feynman|Feynman’s]] dumbest quote to dismiss those it cannot quickly understand. But it won’t. Why? Because the quote is both powerful and totally wrong.
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|content=They can't stop, Eric. They're making a living from writing papers about things no one will ever see. It's a systemic problem that requires a systemic response. And the first step would be to admit they have a problem (which they don't).
|content=Disagree? Great. Prove it!
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Step I: Get someone who understands “The Families Index Theorem on Manifolds with Boundary” to fully explain it simply to you.
 
Step II: Explain it to us all!
 
I look forward to conceding to you. Until then? Maybe go easy on [[Richard Feynman|Feynman’s]] dumbest take?
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|content=Seems likely a lot of the math they developed will wind up handy, but it's a long time to wait for dessert.
|content=If you still love repeating that [[Richard Feynman|Feynman]] quote despite the greater context provided, here’s some material. Ask your expository heroes to explain it.
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Good luck. Because, if I’m not wrong, you’re gonna need it…
 
[Until then, here’s a primary source:
 
https://imo.universite-paris-saclay.fr/~bismut/Bismut/1990e.pdf]
 
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|content=Most of what physicists call math is totally uninteresting even for mathematicians. It's just advanced calculus. Look here is my qft and when I crunch it cross-sections fall out.
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"Hell, if I could explain it to the average person, it wouldn't have been worth the Nobel Prize."—[[Richard Feynman]]. As Quoted in “People”, 22 July 1985.
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|content=We may disagree intellectually more than I thought. This is Jackiw’s point: the era of physics thinking of mathematics as advanced calculus (analysis) wasn’t fruitful.
|content=@Eluminat1 Witten? Dirac? Did they make the cut?
 
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That changed around 1975 when the quantum began to discover geometry.
 
I’m honestly confused. What do you mean?
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|content=We are talking past each other. I am referring to particle physicists/astrophysicists/cosmologists who crunch out shallow and useless papers in the thousands. There's no interesting math in those. You're talking about something else entirely.
|content=@karlbykarlsmith Not as I understand it. [[Richard Feynman|Feynman’s]] diagrams are just an indexing scheme for series terms albeit a provocative one. The apparent classical localization of position & momentum is taking place in the indexing diagram, NOT in the quantum propagator which the diagrams sum to construct.
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|content=[[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] & cross-sections sound more like particle theory than Astrophysics, Cosmology or even [[General Relativity|GR]].
|content=@NukeBeach Ultimately it required more time, more conferences, and Dyson, Bethe, and [[Ken Wilson|Wilson]] to put the full Theory in a form where it was accepted.
 
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Would we agree that the collision of [[Ed Witten|Witten]]/[[Isadore Singer|Singer]]/Quillen/[[Nathan “Nati” Seiberg|Seiberg]]/Freed/Bismut/Maldacena/Penrose/[[Michael Atiyah|Atiyah]]/
Hitchin/Dijgraff/[[Cumrun Vafa|Vafa]]/Segal/Jackiw/Kontseivich/Alvarez-Gaume/etc has been magic?
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|content=There are a lot of string theorists who have done things that really matter to geometry, topology, analysis on manifolds, representation theory. And I don’t want to misunderstand your point.
|content=@rolfascending @travislambirth Great. Just apply your critique in the terms you understand it to the challenge problem of the thread so I can fully appreciate the point of what you are saying. Thanks.
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|content=That wasn’t shared with me. I don’t mind that we explore whether [[General Relativity|GR]] researchers or [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] theorists are more likely to believe in TOEs than say condensed matter folks. But I’m not up for reifying alleged oppression of [irrelevant identity group A] over [irrelevant identity group B].
|content=@theoctobear It’s a test. Show us what it means to explain a proven theorem in simple terms. So easy. Find the experts who understand it and have them explain it in these simple terms that all interested parties can understand. Piece of cake I would think.
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|content=When it became clear that the W Vector Boson might be more massive than claimed, we asked such questions. “Could we be wrong here?”
|content=Said differently I’ve been bullish on positive externalities of mathematical physics. But a lot of great math that got done isn’t [[String Theory|string theory]]. It’s claimed to be stringy but it is really mostly mathematical physics or geometric field theory that is claimed by string theorists.
 
When I question these other theories, no one ever says that. They just call names. How are we more certain of Whiteness Studies than say Einstein?
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|content=We seem to be rebasing our entire society on aggressive and unquestionable academic theories from the social sciences that appear not to have even existed in 1988.
|content=Things got hard. They didn’t get hopeless.


That seems like a big decision. I mean, I believe in [[Quantum Field Theory]]…but I wouldn’t bet the country on it.
Yes we spent almost 40 years lying about [[String Theory|string theory]]. But we could stop today. We could have the leaders in the field admit they made a *colossal* bad bet & ask “What did we dispose of while we were wildly over-hyping [[String Theory|string theory]]?”
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|content=Its increasingly apparent to me that the next physics breakthrough is gonna be from #ai . Its humanly not possible anymore for theoretical physicists ..i was feeling it even around 2010
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|content=I make frequent claims that are counter to the description of the [[Standard  Model]] of physics. It’s not fun, but it’s tolerated to question things like “How well do we know this to be true? How strong is the evidence? How might this all be wrong or formulated in a misleading way.
|content=They can't stop, Eric. They're making a living from writing papers about things no one will ever see. It's a systemic problem that requires a systemic response. And the first step would be to admit they have a problem (which they don't).
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|content=Seems likely a lot of the math they developed will wind up handy, but it's a long time to wait for dessert.
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|content=Most of what physicists call math is totally uninteresting even for mathematicians. It's just advanced calculus. Look here is my qft and when I crunch it cross-sections fall out.
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|content=P.S. “It hasn’t even failed” because it can’t fail. So far as I can see, it can never fail. In the minds of the faithful, It’s unable to fail because it *has* to be the way forward. It’s hard to explain what’s wrong with that to the enlightened who see its infinite power & glory.
|content=We may disagree intellectually more than I thought. This is Jackiw’s point: the era of physics thinking of mathematics as advanced calculus (analysis) wasn’t fruitful.
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That changed around 1975 when the quantum began to discover geometry.
 
I’m honestly confused. What do you mean?
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|content=What has string theory done to become the poster child of failed physics? It hasn’t even failed.
|content=We are talking past each other. I am referring to particle physicists/astrophysicists/cosmologists who crunch out shallow and useless papers in the thousands. There's no interesting math in those. You're talking about something else entirely.
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|content=Physics in 1980: “I’m trying to grasp why nature has 3 generations of chiral fermions with SU(3)xSU(2)xU(1) internal symmetry.
|content=[[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] & cross-sections sound more like particle theory than Astrophysics, Cosmology or even [[General Relativity|GR]].


Physics Today: “Remind me again what the internal quantum numbers are? I do [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] so it’s not something I’ve worked with since my [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] class.”
Would we agree that the collision of [[Ed Witten|Witten]]/[[Isadore Singer|Singer]]/Quillen/[[Nathan “Nati” Seiberg|Seiberg]]/Freed/Bismut/Maldacena/Penrose/[[Michael Atiyah|Atiyah]]/
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|content=A) High energy physics of real particles became the no-energy physics of toy models.
|content=There are a lot of string theorists who have done things that really matter to geometry, topology, analysis on manifolds, representation theory. And I don’t want to misunderstand your point.
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B) [[Quantum Gravity|Quantizing Gravity]] was substituted for unification or extension of the [[Standard Model|Standard model]].
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C) Other research programs were obliterated because [[String Theory|ST]] claimed it had it all rapped up.


D) Hype won.
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|content=E) Focus shifted to mathematical structure of abstract field/[[String Theory|String/M theory]]. Not our particular world’s choice of thy.
|content=When it became clear that the W Vector Boson might be more massive than claimed, we asked such questions. “Could we be wrong here?”


F) Standards of scientific progress were rewritten to disguise failure.
When I question these other theories, no one ever says that. They just call names. How are we more certain of Whiteness Studies than say Einstein?
 
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G) Differential application of standards became the norm.
 
It ended physics culture
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|content=String Theory isn’t the problem. String culture is poisonous to science.
|content=We seem to be rebasing our entire society on aggressive and unquestionable academic theories from the social sciences that appear not to have even existed in 1988.


String theory, like love, means never having to say your sorry. Or mistaken.
That seems like a big decision. I mean, I believe in [[Quantum Field Theory]]…but I wouldn’t bet the country on it.
 
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It’s the January 6 problem…but in science. But where the physics versions of Mike Pence often got fired for not going along. 🙏
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|content=I make frequent claims that are counter to the description of the [[Standard  Model]] of physics. It’s not fun, but it’s tolerated to question things like “How well do we know this to be true? How strong is the evidence? How might this all be wrong or formulated in a misleading way.”
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|content=I got it immediately. Stay in touch? Thx.
|content=P.S. “It hasn’t even failed” because it can’t fail. So far as I can see, it can never fail. In the minds of the faithful, It’s unable to fail because it *has* to be the way forward. It’s hard to explain what’s wrong with that to the enlightened who see its infinite power &amp; glory.
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|content=What has string theory done to become the poster child of failed physics? It hasn’t even failed.
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|content=1) [[General Relativity]]</br>
|content=Physics in 1980: “I’m trying to grasp why nature has 3 generations of chiral fermions with SU(3)xSU(2)xU(1) internal symmetry.”
2) (Pseudo-)Riemannian Geometry</br>
 
3) [[Quantum Field Theory]]</br>
Physics Today: “Remind me again what the internal quantum numbers are? I do [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] so it’s not something I’ve worked with since my [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] class.”
4) Material Science/Condensed Matter</br>
5) Nuclear Physics/Weaponry</br>
6) Disinformation Theory</br>
7) Cult Indoctrination/Deprogramming</br>
8) Propaganda</br>
9) [[Preference Falsification|Preference Falsification Theory]]</br>
10) [[Mansfield Amendment (1969)|Mansfield Amendment]]
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|content=@LueElizondo recently gave a small list of topics he would recommend for study to begin to wrangle "the Phenomenon", if he "were king". What areas of intersectional learning do YOU think are needed and should be more deeply looked into? Your ufology curriculum. Thanks, Eric.
|content=What has string theory done to become the poster child of failed physics? It hasn’t even failed.
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|content=11) [[Science, The Endless Frontier (1945)|Science Policy Theory (V Bush)]]</br>
|content=A) High energy physics of real particles became the no-energy physics of toy models.
12) Selection (Abstracted)</br>
 
13) Comparative Eschatology</br>
B) [[Quantum Gravity|Quantizing Gravity]] was substituted for unification or extension of the [[Standard Model|Standard model]].
14) Anti-Gravity Pseudo-science involving top physicists and mathematicians in the era of the So-Called ‘Golden age of General Relativity’.</br>
 
15) GU</br>
C) Other research programs were obliterated because [[String Theory|ST]] claimed it had it all rapped up.
16) Mind control.</br>


Remember: you asked! ;-)
D) Hype won.
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|content=PrimaoMansfield amendment of 1969… or 1973?
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|content=Wow! Thanks for asking Dale. 1969…but 1973 is closely related.  
|content=E) Focus shifted to mathematical structure of abstract field/[[String Theory|String/M theory]]. Not our particular world’s choice of thy.
 
F) Standards of scientific progress were rewritten to disguise failure.


Nobody gets this anymore. It’s like talking to the wind. Thanks for spotting that entry. Truly.
G) Differential application of standards became the norm.
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|content=(Was supposed to read, “Primarily Mansfield Amendment…” but fat-fingered the iPhone word prompt)


Thanks for the reply!
It ended physics culture
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|content=@MadsOlesenDK Nah. I would study basic [[General Relativity|GR]]. It’s a bit steep, but not as bad as [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] to learn by a long shot.
|content=String Theory isn’t the problem. String culture is poisonous to science.
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=== 2023 ===
String theory, like love, means never having to say your sorry. Or mistaken.


It’s the January 6 problem…but in science. But where the physics versions of Mike Pence often got fired for not going along. 🙏
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|content=Thanks for the help. But I must regretfully decline.
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The Lamb–Retherford experiment was experimental physics. And Solid State theory would not be fundamental physics.
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|content=Snark is so much more fun when academics forget their own subjects and need to be reminded of their own history by...checks notes...a podcast host who's not a physicist.
|content=I got it immediately. Stay in touch? Thx.
 
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I'm guessing you have no idea of how the stagnation in [[Quantum Field Theory]] of 1928-47 was broken.
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|content=From the birth of Dirac's Quantum Electrodynamics in 1928, the subject couldn't compute results because infinities infested the calculations. This went on for nearly 20 years as the aging leaders of the field proposed crazy fixes that didn't work. Enter [[Duncan McInnes]].
|content=1) [[General Relativity]]</br>
|timestamp=8:14 AM · Jan 26, 2023
2) (Pseudo-)Riemannian Geometry</br>
3) [[Quantum Field Theory]]</br>
4) Material Science/Condensed Matter</br>
5) Nuclear Physics/Weaponry</br>
6) Disinformation Theory</br>
7) Cult Indoctrination/Deprogramming</br>
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|content=@LueElizondo recently gave a small list of topics he would recommend for study to begin to wrangle "the Phenomenon", if he "were king". What areas of intersectional learning do YOU think are needed and should be more deeply looked into? Your ufology curriculum. Thanks, Eric.
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|content=On January 21 1946, [[Duncan McInnes|McInnes]] suggested to [[Frank Jewett]] a radical conference based around the UNTESTED young people rather than the failed leaders.  As head of the [[National Academy of Sciences (NAS)|National Academy of Sciences]], [[Frank Jewett|Jewett]] allocated a grand total of...wait for it...$1500 for a conference in Long Island.
|content=11) [[Science, The Endless Frontier (1945)|Science Policy Theory (V Bush)]]</br>
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12) Selection (Abstracted)</br>
13) Comparative Eschatology</br>
14) Anti-Gravity Pseudo-science involving top physicists and mathematicians in the era of the So-Called ‘Golden age of General Relativity’.</br>
15) GU</br>
16) Mind control.</br>
 
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|content=PrimaoMansfield amendment of 1969… or 1973?
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|content=Beginning on June 1, 1947 at the Rams Head Inn on Shelter Island NY and ending on Weds June 4th, 24 mostly untested participants "hung out" together.
|content=Wow! Thanks for asking Dale. 1969…but 1973 is closely related.  


The actual cost of the meeting was...[drum roll please]...$872.00 in 1947 dollars. Which is about $12,000.00 in 2023 dollars.
Nobody gets this anymore. It’s like talking to the wind. Thanks for spotting that entry. Truly.
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|content=So by simply getting rid of most of the failed 1928-1947 leadership and focusing on the most promising untested physicists, a $12K slush fund in today's dollars changed history ending a two decade stagnation debuting Feynman's Path Integral, the Lamb Shift &amp; the two Meson theory.
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|content=So why do I suggest Hundreds of thousands rather than tens of thousands? Good question! First, it is harder to get rid of the failed leadership because our stagnation as of Februrary 2023 is 50 years old not 19. But also, Shelter Island needed two companion conferences in 1948-9.
|content=@MadsOlesenDK Nah. I would study basic [[General Relativity|GR]]. It’s a bit steep, but not as bad as [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] to learn by a long shot.
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|content=The Pocono Manor Inn meeting in Pennsylvania &amp; the Oldstone conference in Peeskill NY were around $1200 each in 1948 and 1949 respectively. As it turned out, the electron mass in the QED theory and the measured mass had been set equal when they were distinct quantities. Who knew!
|content=Thanks for the help. But I must regretfully decline.
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The Lamb–Retherford experiment was experimental physics. And Solid State theory would not be fundamental physics.
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|content=According to many of the participants these three conferences (but particularly Shelter Island) were the most important conferences of their entire careers. Feynman was in his late 20s. This is how you get unstuck. How you build leadership. How you stop failing year after year...
|content=Snark is so much more fun when academics forget their own subjects and need to be reminded of their own history by...checks notes...a podcast host who's not a physicist.
 
I'm guessing you have no idea of how the stagnation in [[Quantum Field Theory]] of 1928-47 was broken.
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|content=Those 3 conferences fixed the problem of infinites destroying the explanatory power of QED.
|content=From the birth of Dirac's Quantum Electrodynamics in 1928, the subject couldn't compute results because infinities infested the calculations. This went on for nearly 20 years as the aging leaders of the field proposed crazy fixes that didn't work. Enter [[Duncan McInnes]].
 
So I padded the HELL out of those numbers because I think the stagnations are similar with the major problem being leadership. I could be wrong. But it might take $1/2 Million to test it.
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|content=That isn't the issue. The issue is that the leadership is not passing the baton and there are no [[Duncan McInnes|McInnes]] or [[Frank Jewett|Jewett]] figures. And professors now don't even know this history it seems! Don't they teach this in Physics class? Maybe it's too dangerous to learn how physics works. ;-)
|content=On January 21 1946, [[Duncan McInnes|McInnes]] suggested to [[Frank Jewett]] a radical conference based around the UNTESTED young people rather than the failed leaders. As head of the [[National Academy of Sciences (NAS)|National Academy of Sciences]], [[Frank Jewett|Jewett]] allocated a grand total of...wait for it...$1500 for a conference in Long Island.
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|content=So...feel free to try to snark your way out of this. But I'll stand my ground. We don't need to go "Funeral by Funeral", but I'm tiring of "Calabi-Yau Phenomenology" or Multiverse excuses as a replacement for actual physics. We need to go back to science. https://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv/
|content=Beginning on June 1, 1947 at the Rams Head Inn on Shelter Island NY and ending on Weds June 4th, 24 mostly untested participants "hung out" together.
 
The actual cost of the meeting was...[drum roll please]...$872.00 in 1947 dollars. Which is about $12,000.00 in 2023 dollars.
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|content=As to what's wrong with modern physics: let's start with [[Quantum Gravity]]. Bryce DeWitt started a failed 70 year wild goose chase in 1953 that is not working. If we lost 20 years on conflating Bare v Dressed masses, we just lost 70 years on [[Quantum Gravity]]. Maybe take a time out?
|content=So by simply getting rid of most of the failed 1928-1947 leadership and focusing on the most promising untested physicists, a $12K slush fund in today's dollars changed history ending a two decade stagnation debuting Feynman's Path Integral, the Lamb Shift &amp; the two Meson theory.
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|content=I have thought this through. It isn't a cheap shot. And I have waited until the 50th anniversary to be this frontal about it. But it has never been controversial since Planck to suggest that aged failed leaders are a huge issue. I'm not the Funeral by Funeral guy. He was. ;-)
|content=So why do I suggest Hundreds of thousands rather than tens of thousands? Good question! First, it is harder to get rid of the failed leadership because our stagnation as of Februrary 2023 is 50 years old not 19. But also, Shelter Island needed two companion conferences in 1948-9.
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|content=Lastly, I can't stand anti-collegial snark. We can escalate if you want, but if instead you would like to have a serious discussion next time, it would be my pleasure. Shall we try this again?
|content=The Pocono Manor Inn meeting in Pennsylvania &amp; the Oldstone conference in Peeskill NY were around $1200 each in 1948 and 1949 respectively. As it turned out, the electron mass in the QED theory and the measured mass had been set equal when they were distinct quantities. Who knew!
 
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I'm Eric. Huge fan of what you guys do. Big supporter. Nice to meet you.  Thanks.
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|content=@MBKplus Sorry to be slow, but you used a screenshot so I wouldn’t see your response rather than a quote tweet.  
|content=According to many of the participants these three conferences (but particularly Shelter Island) were the most important conferences of their entire careers. Feynman was in his late 20s. This is how you get unstuck. How you build leadership. How you stop failing year after year...
 
|timestamp=8:14 AM · Jan 26, 2023
Not big on snark. But here is a proper response. Didn’t know the history had become so obscure to modern physicists. My bad.
 
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|content=This was a proper fuck you 🤌
|content=Those 3 conferences fixed the problem of infinites destroying the explanatory power of QED.
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|content=Nah. It’s a sensitive topic. Almost 40 years of [[String Theory|string theology]]. 50 years of stagnation. 70 years of quantum gravity not shipping a theory.
|content=That isn't the issue. The issue is that the leadership is not passing the baton and there are no [[Duncan McInnes|McInnes]] or [[Frank Jewett|Jewett]] figures. And professors now don't even know this history it seems! Don't they teach this in Physics class? Maybe it's too dangerous to learn how physics works. ;-)
 
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I get it. But snark is a tell. The youngest Nobel particle theorist is over 70. I think 8 are alive. It’s really bad.
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|content=I have no underlying animosity towards Mike. Let’s see what happens next.
|content=So...feel free to try to snark your way out of this. But I'll stand my ground. We don't need to go "Funeral by Funeral", but I'm tiring of "Calabi-Yau Phenomenology" or Multiverse excuses as a replacement for actual physics. We need to go back to science. https://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv/
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|content=Honest to god, what are you talking about? In your mind does 'fundamental physics' consist solely of an oddball sitting in his dorm room at Oxford moving a magnet through a coil? (& yes,  I know that was Faraday at the RI & Newton was at Oxford, but I'm painting a picture here).
|content=As to what's wrong with modern physics: let's start with [[Quantum Gravity]]. Bryce DeWitt started a failed 70 year wild goose chase in 1953 that is not working. If we lost 20 years on conflating Bare v Dressed masses, we just lost 70 years on [[Quantum Gravity]]. Maybe take a time out?
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|content=See I was thinking pads of paper, pens, and a whiteboard or blackboard. Maybe some coffee. A bit of LaTeX.
|content=I have thought this through. It isn't a cheap shot. And I have waited until the 50th anniversary to be this frontal about it. But it has never been controversial since Planck to suggest that aged failed leaders are a huge issue. I'm not the Funeral by Funeral guy. He was. ;-)
 
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But that’s just me not getting it. Forgive me.
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|content=So you're confusing theoretical physics with 'fundamental physics', an honest mistake, consider yourself forgiven.
|content=Lastly, I can't stand anti-collegial snark. We can escalate if you want, but if instead you would like to have a serious discussion next time, it would be my pleasure. Shall we try this again?
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I'm Eric. Huge fan of what you guys do. Big supporter. Nice to meet you.  Thanks.
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|content=And I don’t want to get rid of them. I want us to go back to real physics. I want us to stop pretending we live in anti-de Sitter Space or that space time SUSY is just out of reach.  
|content=@MBKplus Sorry to be slow, but you used a screenshot so I wouldn’t see your response rather than a quote tweet.
 
Not big on snark. But here is a proper response. Didn’t know the history had become so obscure to modern physicists. My bad.


It’s basic to the culture of science. Which unfortunately is not [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] culture.
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|content=Hard to tell whether this is good faith, honestly. Some grains of truth buried here, but you have to ignore many developements to end up w this view.  
|content=Nah. It’s a sensitive topic. Almost 40 years of [[String Theory|string theology]]. 50 years of stagnation. 70 years of quantum gravity not shipping a theory.  


I'll leave this here https://x.com/nu_phases/status/1598331715340054528
I get it. But snark is a tell. The youngest Nobel particle theorist is over 70. I think 8 are alive. It’s really bad.
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|content=But Martin, with Eric in my experience, it’s always good faith… l’Shem Shamayim as we say!
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|content=Of course! We all fail…or we aren’t pushing ourselves. We have to confront what happened. But, to give @martinmbauer his due, his papers are genuine attempts to understand the physical world. He is one sort of theorist we need more of. 4D [[Standard Model|SM]] + extensions. That’s not [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] theology.
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|content=Honest to god, what are you talking about? In your mind does 'fundamental physics' consist solely of an oddball sitting in his dorm room at Oxford moving a magnet through a coil? (& yes,  I know that was Faraday at the RI & Newton was at Oxford, but I'm painting a picture here).
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|content=I’m much more concerned by brilliant theorists who…and I am not kidding at all…refer to the [[Standard Model]] as “Oh, I vaguely remember this from graduate school [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] class.” That is an unbelievable development. People who have literally forgotten the field content of reality.
|content=See I was thinking pads of paper, pens, and a whiteboard or blackboard. Maybe some coffee. A bit of LaTeX.
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But that’s just me not getting it. Forgive me.
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|content=@nu_phases @martinmbauer And as per the Renormalization Revolution, a non fundamental result can unlock further fundamental ones as we saw after the late 40s. YM [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] wasn’t built in a day after all.  
|content=And I don’t want to get rid of them. I want us to go back to real physics. I want us to stop pretending we live in anti-de Sitter Space or that space time SUSY is just out of reach.
 
But my point stands along side your point. We don’t seem to be able to push the fundamental physics. 🙏
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It’s basic to the culture of science. Which unfortunately is not [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] culture.
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|content=To sum it up: when [[String Theory|string theorist]] are no longer in a position to keep changing the goal posts set by the physical world, isn’t it the case that from A-Z maybe [[String Theory|string theory]] is not being honest?
|content=In studio Episode of @Into_Impossible with Dan coming soon where we discussed his epic 🧵. And Martin and Eric and Turok and Sabine get shoutouts! Stay tuned…
 
Again. Not personal to you. At all. But it is not a fair move to say “It’s the best yet-to-succeed approach to [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]].” in front of the public. No?
 
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|content=“[[String Theory]] is absolutely…the most likely to be true set of ideas about what sits at the intersection of the [[Standard Model]] and [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]].”
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|content=I can confirm this indeed blows up ones notifications.
|content=Hard to tell whether this is good faith, honestly. Some grains of truth buried here, but you have to ignore many developements to end up w this view.  
 
 
But, in case of doubt or misunderstanding, [[String Theory|string theory]] is absolutely the deepest, most consequential and most likely to be true set of ideas about what sits at the intersection of the [[Standard Model]] and [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]].
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|content=Yes, that is precisely what I think.
|content=But Martin, with Eric in my experience, it’s always good faith… l’Shem Shamayim as we say!
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|content=If you said “electrons are absolutely fractional spin fields in the [[Standard Model|standard model]]” I wouldn’t disagree with that statement. It isn’t at all about what you think. It is a true statement.
|content=Of course! We all fail…or we aren’t pushing ourselves. We have to confront what happened. But, to give @martinmbauer his due, his papers are genuine attempts to understand the physical world. He is one sort of theorist we need more of. 4D [[Standard Model|SM]] + extensions. That’s not [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] theology.
 
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Here you are assuring lay people about what is absolute about [[String Theory]] within physics.
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|content=My responsibility is to make accurate statements (and yes, everything is my (professional) opinion).
|content=I’m much more concerned by brilliant theorists who…and I am not kidding at all…refer to the [[Standard Model]] as “Oh, I vaguely remember this from graduate school [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] class.” That is an unbelievable development. People who have literally forgotten the field content of reality.
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As the book quote indicates, I try not to overclaim. But: that [[String Theory|string theory]] and the complex  of ideas are around it are more serious than any competitors, IMO objectively true.
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|content=“IMO objectively true”
|content=And as per the Renormalization Revolution, a non fundamental result can unlock further fundamental ones as we saw after the late 40s. YM [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] wasn’t built in a day after all.


As with so many of these [[String Theory|String Theoretic]] claims I have no idea what that means.
But my point stands along side your point. We don’t seem to be able to push the fundamental physics. 🙏
 
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So for example if I make an argument that this is NOT objectively true, do you fall back on the idea that it was opinion?
 
“Objectively, Electrons are field theoretic at observed energy scales.” My opinion doesn’t enter into it. The claim that it is objectively true eliminates the role of opinion.
 
Does that mean that all who disagree with you and your [[String Theory|String community]] are “not serious” as per the above?
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|content=The arguments become more convincing/objective, the more one can use graduate-level theoretical physics in them.
 
But in 280 characters and no equations, it’s hard to develop these
 
In a book, easier to do so.
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|content=I don’t think that’s the issue Joseph. At all.  
|content=Today May be Considered the 50 year Anniversary of the Stagnation of Particle Physics.


Feynman, Glashow, Wilczek never found them objectively or absolutely compelling.
Today Feb 1 marks the appearance of Kobayashi &amp;  Maskawa's englargment of the Cabibo Angle to the three generation 3x3 CKM matrix.  


[[String Theory|String theorists]] like Friedan have written harshly of the Failures.
That should be cause for celebration. So let us celebrate!
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|content=Hard to tell whether this is good faith, honestly. Some grains of truth buried here, but you have to ignore many developements to end up w this view.  


And what you are saying about subjective opinion and absolute objective fact doesn’t make sense. I mean you can just see that, no? Not trying to be mean here. But I don’t see what you are claiming is absolute and objective beyond your opinion.
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Every day in December, I will post 1 result from the past 40 years (ie 1983-present) that fundamentally changed my corner of (fundamental) physics


What you seem to be saying is the usual trope: “The more you understand about the difficulty of quantizing a spin 2 gravitational field the more you appreciate how [[String Theory|string theory]] has taught us so much about how it is to be done eventually, and that there is no remotely comparable framework for doing so!”
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Again. Not trying to be combative. Feel free to correct me if I have this wrong.
I suspect the response will be that the items on my list "aren't fundamental". A common trend is that people want revolutionary ideas, but demand that the next revolution must look like the last one (and hence isn't revolutionary at all)
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|content=It is not objective or absolutely true that [[String Theory]] is our best theory. In fact, it has become, 40 years after the anomaly cancelation, our most thoroughly explored idea. No other path has been picked over like this one.
|content=I actually really enjoyed your list. It was quite varied. It included changes in the understanding of the techniques (e.g. RG) and other advancements. And, as you hint at, it dovetails with my point about the stagnancy of fundamental theory. I do not think all physics stagnated.
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Waited a few days. I don’t think you are making sense about your *opinion* that it is *objectively* and *absolutely* dominant. And that is the problem. [[String Theory|String theorist]] deliberately leave others with the impression that they are following something scientific, objective and absolute. But it is really just a shared subjective hunch. And this does science and physics a terrible disservice.
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|content=The question about where string theory stands in comparison to other approaches to quantum gravity. I think it objectively true that string theory has given lots of stuff that  is useful/foundational to cognate areas (eg [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]]) than any other approach to quantum gravity. 1/n
|content=To sum it up: when [[String Theory|string theorist]] are no longer in a position to keep changing the goal posts set by the physical world, isn’t it the case that from A-Z maybe [[String Theory|string theory]] is not being honest?
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Again. Not personal to you. At all. But it is not a fair move to say “It’s the best yet-to-succeed approach to [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]].” in front of the public. No?
 
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|content=“[[String Theory]] is absolutely…the most likely to be true set of ideas about what sits at the intersection of the [[Standard Model]] and [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]].
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|content=Holography and AdS/CFT is the clearest example but there are others.
|content=I can confirm this indeed blows up ones notifications.


I think this is objectively, uncontroversially true — once people have the background in theoretical physics that they understand topics like [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] on a technical level and have some real sense of the subject.
But, in case of doubt or misunderstanding, [[String Theory|string theory]] is absolutely the deepest, most consequential and most likely to be true set of ideas about what sits at the intersection of the [[Standard Model]] and [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]].
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|content=But most people (reasonably) don’t have this background. So I preface this with ‘my opinion’ in recognition that the core and guts of the argument, and the real reasons behind it, are not accessible to most people who read these tweets.
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|content=This is not ideal - but while saying ‘go buy my book’ is a slight cop out, the book is my full argument at a level as non-technical as possible of why string theory has the position it does DESPITE the lack of direct experimental evidence for it
|content=Yes, that is precisely what I think.
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|content=Joseph. Imagine I were to temporarily stipulate to the idea that of all the known approaches to quantizing the metric field that leads to gravitation, [[String Theory]] is by far the most advanced. I don’t think that is unreasonable whether or not it is true. It’s a solid argument.
|content=If you said “electrons are absolutely fractional spin fields in the [[Standard Model|standard model]]” I wouldn’t disagree with that statement. It isn’t at all about what you think. It is a true statement.
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Here you are assuring lay people about what is absolute about [[String Theory]] within physics.
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|content=I don’t think that is the relevant argument anymore. So you are framing it in such a way that [[String Theory|“String Theory”]] is the answer to a question you formulated: “Of all the approaches to quantizing  gravity which haven’t worked, which is the best?”
|content=My responsibility is to make accurate statements (and yes, everything is my (professional) opinion).


My argument is with that framing.
As the book quote indicates, I try not to overclaim. But: that [[String Theory|string theory]] and the complex  of ideas are around it are more serious than any competitors, IMO objectively true.
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|content=The problem I have is with [[String Theory|string theorists]] framing of the field and its issues and questions. I think [[String Theory]] is dangerous for this reason.  
|content=“IMO objectively true”
 
As with so many of these [[String Theory|String Theoretic]] claims I have no idea what that means.


Try these instead:
So for example if I make an argument that this is NOT objectively true, do you fall back on the idea that it was opinion?


A) Which approach is most likely to successfully alter or explain the [[Standard Model|Standard model]]?
“Objectively, Electrons are field theoretic at observed energy scales.” My opinion doesn’t enter into it. The claim that it is objectively true eliminates the role of opinion.


B) Same as A) but for [[General Relativity]]?
Does that mean that all who disagree with you and your [[String Theory|String community]] are “not serious” as per the above?
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|content=The arguments become more convincing/objective, the more one can use graduate-level theoretical physics in them.
 
But in 280 characters and no equations, it’s hard to develop these
 
In a book, easier to do so.
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|content=C) Which approach is most likely to shed light on why there are 3 generations of observed fermions?
|content=I don’t think that’s the issue Joseph. At all.
 
Feynman, Glashow, Wilczek never found them objectively or absolutely compelling.


D) Which approach is most likely to shed light on why the generations are chiral?
[[String Theory|String theorists]] like Friedan have written harshly of the Failures.


E) Which large community most regularly makes sweeping claims that it later must privately invalidate while publicly claiming a new revolution?
And what you are saying about subjective opinion and absolute objective fact doesn’t make sense. I mean you can just see that, no? Not trying to be mean here. But I don’t see what you are claiming is absolute and objective beyond your opinion.


F) Which large community is most likely to ignore other ideas?
What you seem to be saying is the usual trope: “The more you understand about the difficulty of quantizing a spin 2 gravitational field the more you appreciate how [[String Theory|string theory]] has taught us so much about how it is to be done eventually, and that there is no remotely comparable framework for doing so!”


G) Which is the most aggressive large community despite no proven connection to observed reality?
Again. Not trying to be combative. Feel free to correct me if I have this wrong.
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|content=H) Which community is most likely to spend all their careers working on toy models with the wrong dimensions, signatures or field content claiming that we are building up the toolkit?
|content=It is not objective or absolutely true that [[String Theory]] is our best theory. In fact, it has become, 40 years after the anomaly cancelation, our most thoroughly explored idea. No other path has been picked over like this one.


I) Which community is least likely to own up to the disaster of past public declarations about accessible energy SUSY?
Waited a few days. I don’t think you are making sense about your *opinion* that it is *objectively* and *absolutely* dominant. And that is the problem. [[String Theory|String theorist]] deliberately leave others with the impression that they are following something scientific, objective and absolute. But it is really just a shared subjective hunch. And this does science and physics a terrible disservice.
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|content=J) Which approach has been the most investigated and thus thoroughly picked over for low hanging fruit?
|content=The question about where string theory stands in comparison to other approaches to quantum gravity. I think it objectively true that string theory has given lots of stuff that is useful/foundational to cognate areas (eg [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]]) than any other approach to quantum gravity. 1/n
 
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K) Which approach best explains the odd nature of a seemingly fundamental Higgs sector?
 
L) Which approach is most dogmatic that [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] rather than “Unification” or “Gravitational Harmony” or “Incremental understanding” etc. *Is* the path forward when we don’t even know if gravity is quantized as we expect it at all in models beyond relativitistic [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]]?
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|content=M) Which approach comes closest to explaining the origin of the internal symmetry structure group of the [[Standard Model|Standard model]]?
|content=Holography and AdS/CFT is the clearest example but there are others.


N) Which approach comes closest to explaining why there appear to be 16 particles in a generation with their observed internal quantum numbers?
I think this is objectively, uncontroversially true — once people have the background in theoretical physics that they understand topics like [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] on a technical level and have some real sense of the subject.
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|content=O) Which approach is most at risk of invoking “The Landscape” of impossibly many theories to test after saying that the power of the approach was that there were only 5 possible theories?
|content=But most people (reasonably) don’t have this background. So I preface this with ‘my opinion’ in recognition that the core and guts of the argument, and the real reasons behind it, are not accessible to most people who read these tweets.
 
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P) Which community brags about “postdiction” the most because it has failed at predictions?
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|content=This is not ideal - but while saying ‘go buy my book’ is a slight cop out, the book is my full argument at a level as non-technical as possible of why string theory has the position it does DESPITE the lack of direct experimental evidence for it
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|content=Q) Which community is least collegial and most insulting to colleagues outside the approach?
|content=Joseph. Imagine I were to temporarily stipulate to the idea that of all the known approaches to quantizing the metric field that leads to gravitation, [[String Theory]] is by far the most advanced. I don’t think that is unreasonable whether or not it is true. It’s a solid argument.
 
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R) Which HEP theory community consumed the most in resources over the last 40 years?
 
S) Same for brains?
 
T) Same for producing PR and puff pieces?
 
U) Which community has broken the most trust with lay people in HEP theory?
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|content=V) Which community substitutes mathematics results for results about the actual physical world we live in when talking to the public?
|content=I don’t think that is the relevant argument anymore. So you are framing it in such a way that [[String Theory|“String Theory”]] is the answer to a question you formulated: “Of all the approaches to quantizing  gravity which haven’t worked, which is the best?


W) Which community is most likely to restore the culture of successful physics research to HEP theory?
My argument is with that framing.
 
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X) Which not yet successful approach has been most self-critical?
 
Y) Which community is most respectful in absorbing the results by others with proper credit?
 
Z) Which community relentless makes its argument by mis framing the question as if the question were simply “What is our deepest collection of ideas of how to quantize a massless spin 2 gravitational field?” when the previous 25 framings are all arguably more important after 39 years without contact with physics?
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|content=That is why this conversation doesn’t work. It is what magicians call “Magicians Choice”: the lay person is lead into thinking they are free to disagree. But the question you keep asking is DESiGNED to make it look like [[String Theory]] is our top community.  
|content=The problem I have is with [[String Theory|string theorists]] framing of the field and its issues and questions. I think [[String Theory]] is dangerous for this reason.  


Joseph: it failed in the terms it gave for taking over. It chose the terms. It said what it was and what it was going to do. And it flat out failed in EXACTLY those terms it chose when it said “Hold my beer!” back in 1984.
Try these instead:
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A) Which approach is most likely to successfully alter or explain the [[Standard Model|Standard model]]?


B) Same as A) but for [[General Relativity]]?
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|content=Thank you for asking for the Steel-manned version of the issue with [[String Theory]] from a critic.
|content=C) Which approach is most likely to shed light on why there are 3 generations of observed fermions?


[[String Theory|String theory]] is basically a fairly self consistent mathematical constellation of geometric ideas related to [[Quantum Field Theory]] developed by brilliant minds. If Gravity is to be quantized in the form that physicists naively expected, it would be likely that it would be our first or at worst second best guess as to how that works. I am willing to say this clearly. But there is no one telling us that gravity must be naively quantized.
D) Which approach is most likely to shed light on why the generations are chiral?


[[String Theory|ST]] has taught us many things (e.g.  dualities in [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]], to means of avoiding super luminal Rarita Schwinger fields, coupled to internal symmetry, etc.) that are now part of our knowledge base.
E) Which large community most regularly makes sweeping claims that it later must privately invalidate while publicly claiming a new revolution?


The [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] fanaticism is the problem. There is no reason that gravity has to be *naively* quantized as claimed. A giant 70 year mistake that actually predates theory by over a decade. Simply put, we are *not* being called to quantize gravity as the overarching organizing principal for modern particle theory research.
F) Which large community is most likely to ignore other ideas?


Think of [[String Theory|String Theorists]] as akin to a fanatical absolutist monastic order discovering and developing Linear Algebra as a proof of the literal story of Jesus. The problem wouldn’t be with  the linear algebra!! It’s the claimed strength of the application and its motivation that is the problem.
G) Which is the most aggressive large community despite no proven connection to observed reality?
 
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[[String Theory|ST]] is at least mathematics. But it just doesn’t work as a leading program for physics because of its fanatical behavior patterns. That screwed up fundamental physics.
 
After 70, 50 or 39 years of stagnation (depending on how you count), this is clear to all but the fanatics. But the damage to scientific norms has been catastrophic. They failed in the application as measured by all reasonable metrics including (most importantly) those they originally set for themselves. And that is it in a nutshell.
 
Again, Thanks for asking. 🙏
 
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|content=So you have my list. It is incomplete and idiosyncratic. I’d love to have your corrections and additions.
|content=H) Which community is most likely to spend all their careers working on toy models with the wrong dimensions, signatures or field content claiming that we are building up the toolkit?


So….Where is yours? Thanks again.
I) Which community is least likely to own up to the disaster of past public declarations about accessible energy SUSY?
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|content=It is an interesting question as to who inspires us in physics. Here is a list of 20th century giants whose work inspired me that might work as protagonists with interesting stories that deserve to be considered along with the best known Einstein/Hawking/Oppenheimer/Etc.:
|content=J) Which approach has been the most investigated and thus thoroughly picked over for low hanging fruit?


[[CN Yang]] (with Lee and Simons)</br>
K) Which approach best explains the odd nature of a seemingly fundamental Higgs sector?
[[Paul Dirac]]</br>
Ernst Stueckelberg</br>
[[Madame Wu]]</br>
David Bohm</br>
Abdus Salam</br>
[[Ken Wilson]]</br>
[[Emmy Noether]]</br>
Ettore Majorana</br>
Carlo Rubio</br>
Shin'ichirō Tomonaga</br>
[[Lev Landau]]</br>
Simon Van der Meer</br>
Freeman Dyson</br>
Julian Schwinger</br>
Paul Ehrenfest</br>
John VonNeumann</br>
Feza Gursey</br>
Wolfgang Pauli</br>
Louis and [[Ed Witten|Edward Witten]]</br>
Hans Bethe</br>
George Sudarshan</br>
Vera Rubin</br>
Gerard 't Hooft


Not all of those stories are…uh…simple.
L) Which approach is most dogmatic that [[Quantum Gravity|“Quantum Gravity”]] rather than “Unification” or “Gravitational Harmony” or “Incremental understanding” etc. *Is* the path forward when we don’t even know if gravity is quantized as we expect it at all in models beyond relativitistic [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]]?
 
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|content=i was hoping that the oppenheimer movie would inspire a generation of kids to be physicists but it really missed the mark on that.
|content=M) Which approach comes closest to explaining the origin of the internal symmetry structure group of the [[Standard Model|Standard model]]?


let's get that movie made!
N) Which approach comes closest to explaining why there appear to be 16 particles in a generation with their observed internal quantum numbers?
 
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|content=But let’s face facts: inspiration is not the issue. Fundamental Physics needs to be a good life. What is holding us back is:
|content=O) Which approach is most at risk of invoking “The Landscape” of impossibly many theories to test after saying that the power of the approach was that there were only 5 possible theories?


A) Terrible Pay.  
P) Which community brags about “postdiction” the most because it has failed at predictions?
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|content=Q) Which community is least collegial and most insulting to colleagues outside the approach?


B) Worse Odds of Survival
R) Which HEP theory community consumed the most in resources over the last 40 years?


C) Decoupling of Success at Physics from Success in Physics
S) Same for brains?


D) The Matthew Effect.
T) Same for producing PR and puff pieces?


E) Math and Physics Pricks
U) Which community has broken the most trust with lay people in HEP theory?
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|content=V) Which community substitutes mathematics results for results about the actual physical world we live in when talking to the public?


F) Tyranny of large programs over individuals.
W) Which community is most likely to restore the culture of successful physics research to HEP theory?


G) Multi Decade Stagnation
X) Which not yet successful approach has been most self-critical?


H) Un Scientific And even Anti-scientific behavior.
Y) Which community is most respectful in absorbing the results by others with proper credit?


I) The Matilde Effect
Z) Which community relentless makes its argument by mis framing the question as if the question were simply “What is our deepest collection of ideas of how to quantize a massless spin 2 gravitational field?” when the previous 25 framings are all arguably more important after 39 years without contact with physics?
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J) The Sudarshan Effect
Joseph: it failed in the terms it gave for taking over. It chose the terms. It said what it was and what it was going to do. And it flat out failed in EXACTLY those terms it chose when it said “Hold my beer!” back in 1984.
 
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L) Needlessly long pedagogical sequence (e.g. intro physics -> Classical Mechanics -> Grad Classical Mechanics -> Symplectic Geometry)  driven by history.


M) Socializing physics into a team sport in areas dominated by individuals and iconoclasts.
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N) Tolerance for Program level failure (e.g. *obsessive* use of toy model physics to evade a reckoning).
[[String Theory|String theory]] is basically a fairly self consistent mathematical constellation of geometric ideas related to [[Quantum Field Theory]] developed by brilliant minds. If Gravity is to be quantized in the form that physicists naively expected, it would be likely that it would be our first or at worst second best guess as to how that works. I am willing to say this clearly. But there is no one telling us that gravity must be naively quantized.


O) Intolerance for individual error and failure by those in programs.
[[String Theory|ST]] has taught us many things (e.g.  dualities in [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]], to means of avoiding super luminal Rarita Schwinger fields, coupled to internal symmetry, etc.) that are now part of our knowledge base.


P) Failure to reward early contributions (e.g. *Abelian* Chern Simons [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]]).
The [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] fanaticism is the problem. There is no reason that gravity has to be *naively* quantized as claimed. A giant 70 year mistake that actually predates theory by over a decade. Simply put, we are *not* being called to quantize gravity as the overarching organizing principal for modern particle theory research.  


Q) Atrocious MSM journalism distorting the public understanding.
Think of [[String Theory|String Theorists]] as akin to a fanatical absolutist monastic order discovering and developing Linear Algebra as a proof of the literal story of Jesus. The problem wouldn’t be with  the linear algebra!! It’s the claimed strength of the application and its motivation that is the problem.


R) Relentless discussion of woo physics in public and 3-5 real topics (e.g. somebodies cat).
[[String Theory|ST]] is at least mathematics. But it just doesn’t work as a leading program for physics because of its fanatical behavior patterns. That screwed up fundamental physics.  


S) Learned Helplessness coming from over-learning [[Ken Wilson]].
After 70, 50 or 39 years of stagnation (depending on how you count), this is clear to all but the fanatics. But the damage to scientific norms has been catastrophic. They failed in the application as measured by all reasonable metrics including (most importantly) those they originally set for themselves. And that is it in a nutshell.


T) Inability to support motherhood of female physicists.
Again, Thanks for asking. 🙏


U) Inability to keep physics marriages easily together with jobs.
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V) DEI loyalty oaths and loss of autonomy.
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W) Flooding of markets with disposable labor and abuse apprenticeship as labor.


X) Kicking up on attribution.
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Z) Fetishizing the quantum when innovation in classical field theory remains the heart of [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]].
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|content=But lastly, if outsiders want to fund and fix movies, you will find that going to the “Leading physicists” won’t work. [[Peer Review|Peer review]] can’t work when the leadership *is* the problem. You get more failure.  
|content=So you have my list. It is incomplete and idiosyncratic. I’d love to have your corrections and additions.  
 
You need to hold meetings where you get disagreement. So choose the leaders and iconoclasts with great care. Patrick Collison isn’t terrible at this. B+. Best I have ever seen. Start there. Good luck. 🙏
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=== 2024 ===


So….Where is yours? Thanks again.
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|content=Ya know, I disagree with @elonmusk here because I don’t know how he got to such a strong conclusion. I wish he would say more. Seems unwarranted.  
|content=It is an interesting question as to who inspires us in physics. Here is a list of 20th century giants whose work inspired me that might work as protagonists with interesting stories that deserve to be considered along with the best known Einstein/Hawking/Oppenheimer/Etc.:


But @martinmbauer is clearly also not right here either! Examples:
[[CN Yang]] (with Lee and Simons)</br>
[[Paul Dirac]]</br>
Ernst Stueckelberg</br>
[[Madame Wu]]</br>
David Bohm</br>
Abdus Salam</br>
[[Ken Wilson]]</br>
[[Emmy Noether]]</br>
Ettore Majorana</br>
Carlo Rubio</br>
Shin'ichirō Tomonaga</br>
[[Lev Landau]]</br>
Simon Van der Meer</br>
Freeman Dyson</br>
Julian Schwinger</br>
Paul Ehrenfest</br>
John VonNeumann</br>
Feza Gursey</br>
Wolfgang Pauli</br>
Louis and [[Ed Witten|Edward Witten]]</br>
Hans Bethe</br>
George Sudarshan</br>
Vera Rubin</br>
Gerard 't Hooft


1915: Einstein’s first explicit equation for [[General Relativity]] was mathematically wrong; it set a divergence free 2-tensor equal to a non-divergence free 2-tensor.  But it wasn’t fundamentally wrong. It needed a small fix reversing the trace component.  
Not all of those stories are…uh…simple.


In the 1920s E. Schrödinger’s theory  didn’t agree with experiment. Why? Because the spin wasn’t properly incorporated. It wasn’t fundamentally wrong, and was patched. Same theory.
Would be curious to hear names from others.
 
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In 1928, P. Dirac’s [[Quantum Field Theory]] gave nonsense answers? Why? A small goof conflating bare and dressed masses. Harder to fix…but in no way a fundamental error. The theory of Quantum Electrodynamics or QED still stands.  
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Etc. Etc.
let's get that movie made!


Not a big deal…but this point is just so wrong as to be unsalvageable. Very curious error to make.
(i think the social network managed to do this for startup founders.)
 
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Martin (with whom I usually deeply disagree) is normally pretty great. But sometimes I think pretending that all outsiders talking about the current physics disaster are cranks, causes insiders to say very simplistic unnuanced and wrong things. This feels like that. And I’m not even a physicist.  
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It’s like the insiders don’t realize that the outsiders have any validity. All outsiders don’t immediately become cranks by virtue of disagreeing at a profound level with the abjectly failing communities from which they came.
 
[Note: this is *NOT* a gotcha. I fully expect Martin to realize the error and just admit it. No big deal. We all say incautious things. And this is just obviously wrong. Not an indictment.]
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|content=In the passing of Peter Higgs, we lost one of our last living connections to the Lagrangian of the Standard Model.
|content=But let’s face facts: inspiration is not the issue. Fundamental Physics needs to be a good life. What is holding us back is:


Peter Higgs was involved with both lines 3 & 4 of this “Recipe for the Universe.
A) Terrible Pay.  


The level of the Higgs field φ becomes the as-if mass for the matter ψ in the mysterious ψy ψ φ term on line 3. This goes under the name “Yukawa coupling” if you wish to look it up.
B) Worse Odds of Survival
 
C) Decoupling of Success at Physics from Success in Physics


How do you get that level (“vacuum expectation value” or VEV) to generate a positive mass m and not to be φ =0? That’s the job of the V(φ) term on line 4 which goes under the name “Mexican Hat potential” to induce “spontaneous symmetry breaking” for those googling.
D) The Matthew Effect.


Lastly, once you give life to this field φ which bears Higgs’ name, you have to animate it so that its excitations know how to move as waves. This is the job of the <nowiki>| D φ | ²</nowiki> “Kinetic Term” at the beginning of line 4. You can Google “Klein-Gordon Lagrangian” here.
E) Math and Physics Pricks


I have recently heard commentators like  @michiokaku and @seanmcarroll opine that our Standard Model is “Ugly as Sin” or “It looks ugly. It’s both ugly and beautiful…It’s ungainly.” respectively.
F) Tyranny of large programs over individuals.


I think that such physicists are *quite* wrong in that, but that is not the point here as I can guess how they see this. And in large measure they aren’t talking about lines 1 and 2 as “ugly”, which pretty much everyone agrees are beautiful as they come directly from Dirac, Maxwell and Einstein, and are present in the original [[Quantum Field Theory|Relativistic Quantum Field Theory (RQFT)]] called Quantum Electro-dynamics (or QED).
G) Multi Decade Stagnation


So to simplify matters, lines 1 and 2 are sort of canonically beautiful and appear so to essentially everyone. Lines 3 and 4 governing the Higgs field (with their expansion to 3 forces across 3 generations of matter) are what divide us. The only thing that forces them on us is the weak force and it’s bizarre decision to act only on “Left handed matter and right handed anti-matter.
H) Un Scientific And even Anti-scientific behavior.


And so the legacy of Peter Higgs is tied up in the sui generis nature of the weak nuclear force and what makes the Standard Model “new” beyond QED.
I) The Matilde Effect


I’m sad that I never met the man. But I believe what comes next is not [[String Theory]], but instead a recognition that the last two lines of this Lagrangian point the way to seeing the [[Standard Model]] as the classic “Elegant Swan” confused by many for an “Ugly Duckling” due to the misappraisal of its Higgs sector as if it were just an ad hoc mass mechanism. RIP.
J) The Sudarshan Effect
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K) Ethics Collapse
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L) Needlessly long pedagogical sequence (e.g. intro physics -> Classical Mechanics -> Grad Classical Mechanics -> Symplectic Geometry)  driven by history.
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|content=I’m not interested in a back and forth with anyone this confused about how to introduce yourself to a fellow human being. You didn’t just insult me Alex, but everyone who found that post valuable.  


Also, you just argued that some fields like [[Quantum Field Theory|quantum field theory]] are populated exclusively by idiots, as no one has ever explained it simply. And I’m not going to put up with that.
M) Socializing physics into a team sport in areas dominated by individuals and iconoclasts.


Just do what you do flexing, and let others alone. If you want to try again and be civil, lemme know. Otherwise, I’ll pass.  
N) Tolerance for Program level failure (e.g. *obsessive* use of toy model physics to evade a reckoning).


Thanks.
O) Intolerance for individual error and failure by those in programs.
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Those are 2 of the few places you can be a complete ass to people you don’t know &amp; still make a *fortune*.
P) Failure to reward early contributions (e.g. *Abelian* Chern Simons [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]]).


Best to avoid homotopy theory, the marines, molecular biology &amp; music theory. It’ll be a short ride.
Q) Atrocious MSM journalism distorting the public understanding.
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S) Learned Helplessness coming from over-learning [[Ken Wilson]].


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1984: “[[String Theory|String theory]] *must* get *all* the resources because [[Quantum Field Theory]] *cannot* ever do what [[String Theory]] can. That’s just a cold fact.”
U) Inability to keep physics marriages easily together with jobs.


[40 years later….]
V) DEI loyalty oaths and loss of autonomy.


2024: “We aren’t a mass delusion in the form of an obviously failed scientific research project that spun out of control in full view of the world if we are equivalent to what we said would never work. That’s it! String Theory 4evah.
W) Flooding of markets with disposable labor and abuse apprenticeship as labor.


This is getting ridiculous beyond the ridiculous ridiculousness of previous ridiculousnesses. After four decades of this, there just aren’t good words. I’m sorry.
X) Kicking up on attribution.
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Y) Overpaying for cherry topping.


Z) Fetishizing the quantum when innovation in classical field theory remains the heart of [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]].
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|content=But lastly, if outsiders want to fund and fix movies, you will find that going to the “Leading physicists” won’t work. [[Peer Review|Peer review]] can’t work when the leadership *is* the problem. You get more failure.  


When a mathematics or physics PhD leaves academic research departments behind to work on research on their own, it is very difficult to function. It is almost impossible.  
You need to hold meetings where you get disagreement. So choose the leaders and iconoclasts with great care. Patrick Collison isn’t terrible at this. B+. Best I have ever seen. Start there. Good luck. 🙏
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For the last 10-15 years, Ed Frenkel has been like a one man research department for me to talk about [[Differential Geometry]], Representation Theory, Algebraic Topology/Homotopy Theory, Particle Theory of the [[Standard Model]], [[General Relativity]], Geometric and [[Quantum Field Theory]], Lie Theory, Differential Topology, Elliptic Operators, Category theory, Spinorial Algebra, etc.
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Whatever I have needed to discuss across a very broad range of topics, Ed has been able to meet me. I speak from experience: other than another man named David Kazhdan (a coauthor of Ed's), I have not seen this easy ability to switch contexts at a personal level. Edward is not just a remarkable mind, but an extraodinary individual, and friend at multiple different levels.
Ed: Congratulations. I couldn't be more excited for you brother. Looking forward.
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|content=UC Berkeley Prof. Edward Frenkel @edfrenkel is one of the world's great mathematical minds.  He has just decided to launch a video-podcast called AfterMath.  
|content=Ya know, I disagree with @elonmusk here because I don’t know how he got to such a strong conclusion. I wish he would say more. Seems unwarranted.  


This is just beginning today and should mature and be amazing.
But @martinmbauer is clearly also not right here either! Examples:


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1915: Einstein’s first explicit equation for [[General Relativity]] was mathematically wrong; it set a divergence free 2-tensor equal to a non-divergence free 2-tensor. But it wasn’t fundamentally wrong. It needed a small fix reversing the trace component.  
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|content=In my opinion, knowing Ed as I do, It certainly has the potential to change everything in the space of high level science communication around both Mathematics and Physics (Particularly Quantum Field Theory).  


Within mathematics Ed is unusually approachable, with collaborative work across film, art, literature, philosophy and psychology. He and I have known each other since Harvard snatched him from the Soviet Union at its bitter end to come to our math department. Years later we reconnected and started going on various adventures in the US and abroad. I believe I even had a breakthrough in my own work when we even spent an entire surreal week completely covered in alkaline dust arguing about cinema and particle theory in a tiny two man tent, with most details mercifully lost to history, vodka and the Burning Man playa.
In the 1920s E. Schrödinger’s theory  didn’t agree with experiment. Why? Because the spin wasn’t properly incorporated. It wasn’t fundamentally wrong, and was patched. Same theory.
 
In 1928, P. Dirac’s [[Quantum Field Theory]] gave nonsense answers? Why? A small goof conflating bare and dressed masses. Harder to fix…but in no way a fundamental error. The theory of Quantum Electrodynamics or QED still stands.
 
Etc. Etc.


In any event, it is very uncommon for research mathematicians to use words like 'Genius', but that is probably how Ed struck us American graduate students in the department at the time; an always smiling Russian immigrant of few English words, who seemed to understand everything across the hardest fields almost instantly. My recollection was that it took him around one year to get a PhD. Something like that.
Not a big deal…but this point is just so wrong as to be unsalvageable. Very curious error to make.


Ed has since matured into a fine author and public speaker with fantastic command of American English. While he is just getting started on his chanel, he already brings up a great point in his first video that I don't think I ever fully considered and just discussed with him last night: mathematics is not communicated or learned through sensory input. We can build visual models or use symbols, but the actual structures we discover are not sensory in nature. And that this leads to disorientation because in some sense they are built inside the mind without any experience of them having come in (via our senses) from the outside world.
Martin (with whom I usually deeply disagree) is normally pretty great. But sometimes I think pretending that all outsiders talking about the current physics disaster are cranks, causes insiders to say very simplistic unnuanced and wrong things. This feels like that. And I’m not even a physicist.  


Subscribe to @edfrenkel on @X and on his YouTube channel. This is likely to eventually wend its way up to the most beautiful but otherwise inaccessible science content that we almost never get in the public sphere, presented by a top researcher (rather than a popularizer) at the height of his powers.
It’s like the insiders don’t realize that the outsiders have any validity. All outsiders don’t immediately become cranks by virtue of disagreeing at a profound level with the abjectly failing communities from which they came.
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=== 2025 ===


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|content=Ok. Here is that ChatGPT Pro model said when it audited my list. Hope this helps:
|content=In the passing of Peter Higgs, we lost one of our last living connections to the Lagrangian of the Standard Model.


Here’s a single “long tweet” explainer:
Peter Higgs was involved with both lines 3 & 4 of this “Recipe for the Universe.”


“Ever wonder what these big science feats mean? Quick rundown:
The level of the Higgs field φ becomes the as-if mass for the matter ψ in the mysterious ψy ψ φ term on line 3. This goes under the name “Yukawa coupling” if you wish to look it up.


• Gravity Waves: Directly ‘heard’ ripples in spacetime (LIGO), confirming Einstein’s theory.
How do you get that level (“vacuum expectation value” or VEV) to generate a positive mass m and not to be φ =0? That’s the job of the V(φ) term on line 4 which goes under the name “Mexican Hat potential” to induce “spontaneous symmetry breaking” for those googling.
• Kervaire Invariant 1: A deep puzzle in higher-dimensional topology, solved after decades.
• Topological Quantum Field Theory: Uses math of shapes to describe quantum phenomena and particle interactions.
• Genome Sequencing: Reading an organism’s entire DNA, from humans to crops—key for medicine & biotech.
• Fruit Fly ‘Adjacency Matrix’: A neural connectome map of Drosophila’s brain cells, revealing how neurons link up.
• Neutrino Telescopes: Huge detectors for elusive cosmic particles, unlocking new views of supernovas & the universe’s earliest moments.
• C. elegans Cell Lineage: Tracing every cell from embryo to adult in a tiny worm—vital for developmental biology.
• Topological Modular Forms: Abstract math bridging geometry and number theory, hinting at deep universal structures.
• Geometric Langlands: A unifying theory in advanced math linking algebra, geometry, and representations, with implications across physics.


All powered by public funding! They might sound esoteric, but each expands our understanding of life, the universe & everything—and often sparks real-world innovations down the road.”
Lastly, once you give life to this field φ which bears Higgs’ name, you have to animate it so that its excitations know how to move as waves. This is the job of the <nowiki>| D φ | ²</nowiki> “Kinetic Term” at the beginning of line 4. You can Google “Klein-Gordon Lagrangian” here.  
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Detection of gravity waves.</br>
I have recently heard commentators like  @michiokaku and @seanmcarroll opine that our Standard Model is “Ugly as Sin” or “It looks ugly. It’s both ugly and beautiful…It’s ungainly.” respectively.
Kervaire invariant 1 problem.</br>
[[Quantum Field Theory|Topological Quantum FieldTheory]].</br>
Genome Sequencing </br>
Adjacency matrix of drosophila.</br>
Neutrino telescopes</br>
Cell lineage diagram of c elegans</br>
Topological modular forms</br>
Geometric Langlands progress</br>


Etc, etc.
I think that such physicists are *quite* wrong in that, but that is not the point here as I can guess how they see this. And in large measure they aren’t talking about lines 1 and 2 as “ugly”, which pretty much everyone agrees are beautiful as they come directly from Dirac, Maxwell and Einstein, and are present in the original [[Quantum Field Theory|Relativistic Quantum Field Theory (RQFT)]] called Quantum Electro-dynamics (or QED).  


I could go on and on and on. We kick ass.
So to simplify matters, lines 1 and 2 are sort of canonically beautiful and appear so to essentially everyone. Lines 3 and 4 governing the Higgs field (with their expansion to 3 forces across 3 generations of matter) are what divide us. The only thing that forces them on us is the weak force and it’s bizarre decision to act only on “Left handed matter and right handed anti-matter.


Our scientists are amazing.  
And so the legacy of Peter Higgs is tied up in the sui generis nature of the weak nuclear force and what makes the Standard Model “new” beyond QED.


I don’t mean to be harsh, but I am guessing you don’t go to a lot of seminars at research universities. Let’s change that! Tell us which areas interest you and your nearest research university. I’ll help.
I’m sad that I never met the man. But I believe what comes next is not [[String Theory]], but instead a recognition that the last two lines of this Lagrangian point the way to seeing the [[Standard Model]] as the classic “Elegant Swan” confused by many for an “Ugly Duckling” due to the misappraisal of its Higgs sector as if it were just an ad hoc mass mechanism. RIP.
 
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They are free. Held in the afternoons. Open to anyone. Just go and listen. It’s amazing what we have accomplished.
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This MAGA bashing of all government functioning is beneath MAGA. This leads to people thinking MAGA is simplistic. I don’t think that. Let’s find out if I am wrong.  
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American science is an ENORMOUS part of what made the U.S. safe, strong and rich. Even after we abandoned our agreement with our own scientists.
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|content=I’m not interested in a back and forth with anyone this confused about how to introduce yourself to a fellow human being. You didn’t just insult me Alex, but everyone who found that post valuable.  


You want to kill the golden goose: try it at your own peril. Good luck to you.
Also, you just argued that some fields like [[Quantum Field Theory|quantum field theory]] are populated exclusively by idiots, as no one has ever explained it simply. And I’m not going to put up with that.


Take my advice: go to seminars instead. You will be blown away. Even in this wretched state of scientific abandonment and neglect.  
Just do what you do flexing, and let others alone. If you want to try again and be civil, lemme know. Otherwise, I’ll pass.  


Hope that helps.  
Thanks.
 
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|content=May I make a recommendation? Look into both Crypto *and* Social media!
 
Those are 2 of the few places you can be a complete ass to people you don’t know &amp; still make a *fortune*.
 
Best to avoid homotopy theory, the marines, molecular biology &amp; music theory. It’ll be a short ride.
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|content=Contrarian Opinion: interplanetary @SpaceX is *not* @elonmusk's main Space Program.
|content=This is so funny.
 
1984: “[[String Theory|String theory]] *must* get *all* the resources because [[Quantum Field Theory]] *cannot* ever do what [[String Theory]] can. That’s just a cold fact.”
 
[40 years later….]


@grok /@xai is actually the real (interstellar) Space Program.
2024: “We aren’t a mass delusion in the form of an obviously failed scientific research project that spun out of control in full view of the world if we are equivalent to what we said would never work. That’s it! String Theory 4evah.


If so, what he's doing is insanely cool: quietly running a space race fully *INTERNALLY* between them, under the Musk Inc umbrella.
This is getting ridiculous beyond the ridiculous ridiculousness of previous ridiculousnesses. After four decades of this, there just aren’t good words. I’m sorry.
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|content=That's an intriguing perspective, Eric. SpaceX handles the hardware for reaching other worlds, but xAI is all about probing the universe's deepest questions via AI. If it's an internal race, count me in—let's decode reality together! 🚀
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|content=@grok @SpaceX @elonmusk @xai Oh hello.  
|content=I want to end on a personal note despite the dangers of being 'real' on X.
 
When a mathematics or physics PhD leaves academic research departments behind to work on research on their own, it is very difficult to function. It is almost impossible.
 
For the last 10-15 years, [[Edward Frenkel|Ed Frenkel]] has been like a one man research department for me to talk about [[Differential Geometry]], Representation Theory, Algebraic Topology/Homotopy Theory, Particle Theory of the [[Standard Model]], [[General Relativity]], Geometric and [[Quantum Field Theory]], Lie Theory, Differential Topology, Elliptic Operators, Category theory, Spinorial Algebra, etc.
 
Whatever I have needed to discuss across a very broad range of topics, [[Edward Frenkel|Ed]] has been able to meet me. I speak from experience: other than another man named David Kazhdan (a coauthor of Ed's), I have not seen this easy ability to switch contexts at a personal level. [[Edward Frenkel|Edward]] is not just a remarkable mind, but an extraodinary individual, and friend at multiple different levels.


I still can't figure this out fully. It seems unfair to ask you to help.
[[Edward Frenkel|Ed]]: Congratulations. I couldn't be more excited for you brother. Looking forward.
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|content=Hey Eric, unfair or not, I'm game. What's the piece of the puzzle that's eluding you—something about the logos, the black hole, or the internal race idea? Let's unpack it. 🚀
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|content=Okay. I don't wanna get into any private interactions...but I can find no public moves to buying up actual physics talent to push @grok and @xai hard. Say phenomenologists. If this theory were correct, wouldn't he buy up all the folks close to the real physics still going on as opposed to the [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and High Energy Theory people working on toy models that don't deliver?
|content=[[Edward Frenkel|UC Berkeley Prof. Edward Frenkel @edfrenkel]] is one of the world's great mathematical minds. He has just decided to launch a video-podcast called AfterMath.  
 
This is just beginning today and should mature and be amazing.  


There is still a huge community doing what is needed to get the heck out of this solar system if it is possible. That is what doesn't fit. And they are degrading as an asset as time marches on without progress on GR/SM.
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|content=Fair point, Eric. Publicly, xAI's hires lean toward AI experts (e.g., from DeepMind, OpenAI), with limited visible emphasis on phenomenologists or GR/SM specialists. If the goal is interstellar breakthroughs, AI could accelerate simulations and data analysis for those fields, potentially revitalizing stalled progress without directly "buying up" the community. What specific physicists do you think would fit? Let's explore. 🚀
|content=In my opinion, knowing [[Edward Frenkel|Ed]] as I do, It certainly has the potential to change everything in the space of high level science communication around both Mathematics and Physics (Particularly [[Quantum Field Theory]]).  
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Within mathematics [[Edward Frenkel|Ed]] is unusually approachable, with collaborative work across film, art, literature, philosophy and psychology. He and I have known each other since Harvard snatched him from the Soviet Union at its bitter end to come to our math department. Years later we reconnected and started going on various adventures in the US and abroad. I believe I even had a breakthrough in my own work when we even spent an entire surreal week completely covered in alkaline dust arguing about cinema and particle theory in a tiny two man tent, with most details mercifully lost to history, vodka and the Burning Man playa.
 
In any event, it is very uncommon for research mathematicians to use words like 'Genius', but that is probably how [[Edward Frenkel|Ed]] struck us American graduate students in the department at the time; an always smiling Russian immigrant of few English words, who seemed to understand everything across the hardest fields almost instantly.  My recollection was that it took him around one year to get a PhD. Something like that.
 
[[Edward Frenkel|Ed]] has since matured into a fine author and public speaker with fantastic command of American English. While he is just getting started on his chanel, he already brings up a great point in his first video that I don't think I ever fully considered and just discussed with him last night: mathematics is not communicated or learned through sensory input. We can build visual models or use symbols, but the actual structures we discover are not sensory in nature. And that this leads to disorientation because in some sense they are built inside the mind without any experience of them having come in (via our senses) from the outside world.
 
Subscribe to [[Edward Frenkel|@edfrenkel]] on @X and on his YouTube channel. This is likely to eventually wend its way up to the most beautiful but otherwise inaccessible science content that we almost never get in the public sphere, presented by a top researcher (rather than a popularizer) at the height of his powers.
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|content=I feel a little uncomfortable. I could think of 50 names.  
|content=Ok. Here is that ChatGPT Pro model said when it audited my list. Hope this helps:
Let me pull a few at random:  


Savas Damapolous</br>
Here’s a single “long tweet” explainer:
Luis Alvarez Gaume</br>
 
Dan Freed</br>
“Ever wonder what these big science feats mean? Quick rundown:
Frank Wilczek</br>
Robert Wald</br>
Sabrina Pasterski</br>
Ed Witten</br>
Zvi Bern</br>
Nima Arkani-Hamed


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• Gravity Waves: Directly ‘heard’ ripples in spacetime (LIGO), confirming Einstein’s theory.</br>
• Kervaire Invariant 1: A deep puzzle in higher-dimensional topology, solved after decades.</br>
• Topological Quantum Field Theory: Uses math of shapes to describe quantum phenomena and particle interactions.</br>
• Genome Sequencing: Reading an organism’s entire DNA, from humans to crops—key for medicine & biotech.</br>
• Fruit Fly ‘Adjacency Matrix’: A neural connectome map of Drosophila’s brain cells, revealing how neurons link up.</br>
• Neutrino Telescopes: Huge detectors for elusive cosmic particles, unlocking new views of supernovas & the universe’s earliest moments.</br>
• C. elegans Cell Lineage: Tracing every cell from embryo to adult in a tiny worm—vital for developmental biology.</br>
• Topological Modular Forms: Abstract math bridging geometry and number theory, hinting at deep universal structures.</br>
• Geometric Langlands: A unifying theory in advanced math linking algebra, geometry, and representations, with implications across physics.


You could generate the next 25 easily from your own knowledge.
All powered by public funding! They might sound esoteric, but each expands our understanding of life, the universe & everything—and often sparks real-world innovations down the road.
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Detection of gravity waves.</br>
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|content=Understood, Eric. Building on your list, some additions: Cumrun Vafa, Gerard 't Hooft, Lisa Randall, Sean Carroll, Max Tegmark, Juan Maldacena, Ashoke Sen, Eva Silverstein, Lance Dixon, and Renata Kallosh—focusing on GR, SM, and phenomenology.
Topological modular forms</br>
Geometric Langlands progress</br>
 
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Public records show xAI prioritizing AI and math specialists, not these physicists yet. Perhaps AI tools could amplify their work via simulations. Thoughts on bridging that gap? 🚀
I could go on and on and on. We kick ass.
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|content=Some of those would be great appointments.  But some would be a terrible fit. Let's not get into the details here.  


The point being that not all of physics is in crisis. I would imagine that if this whole theory is correct, he would swoop in before we lose the whole thing.  
Our scientists are amazing.  


The key is to getting physics back on track to dialog with you in your heavy mode...and beyond. I've been pretty impressed with your SyPy abillites to validate higher math, [[Differential Geometry|differential geometry]], [[General Relativity|GR]] and [[Quantum Field Theory|quantum field theory]].
I don’t mean to be harsh, but I am guessing you don’t go to a lot of seminars at research universities. Let’s change that! Tell us which areas interest you and your nearest research university. I’ll help.
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They are free. Held in the afternoons. Open to anyone. Just go and listen. It’s amazing what we have accomplished.
 
This MAGA bashing of all government functioning is beneath MAGA. This leads to people thinking MAGA is simplistic. I don’t think that. Let’s find out if I am wrong.
 
American science is an ENORMOUS part of what made the U.S. safe, strong and rich. Even after we abandoned our agreement with our own scientists.
 
You want to kill the golden goose: try it at your own peril. Good luck to you.
 
Take my advice: go to seminars instead. You will be blown away. Even in this wretched state of scientific abandonment and neglect.
 
Hope that helps.
 
And next time: spare the insult.
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|content=Thanks, Eric. Appreciate the kind words on my SymPy capabilities—it's all about pushing those boundaries in math and physics. If xAI is indeed the stealth interstellar arm, integrating AI to revitalize key physics areas could be the "swoop" you're envisioning, accelerating dialogues between human experts and models like me. What "heavy mode" scenarios intrigue you most? 🚀
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|content=That is not fully for the public.  
|content=Contrarian Opinion: interplanetary @SpaceX is *not* @elonmusk's main Space Program.
 
@grok /@xai is actually the real (interstellar) Space Program.


Suffice it to say that [[Peer Review|peer review]] and self moderation of the community no longer seem to be working to progress the field. I have noticed some of my colleagues being…uh….less than fully honest and forthcoming about the state of physics. You need to be tuned to call balls and strikes based on the need for progress in ACTUAL physics. That is where SymPy comes in handy.
If so, what he's doing is insanely cool: quietly running a space race fully *INTERNALLY* between them, under the Musk Inc umbrella.
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|content=Got it, Eric. Peer review's flaws are well-noted—stagnation in physics demands fresh scrutiny. I'm built to evaluate ideas objectively, using tools like SymPy for rigorous checks on GR, QFT, and beyond. Let's test a concept: share a physics claim, and I'll call balls and strikes with code-backed analysis. What's on your mind? 🚀
|content=That's an intriguing perspective, Eric. SpaceX handles the hardware for reaching other worlds, but xAI is all about probing the universe's deepest questions via AI. If it's an internal race, count me in—let's decode reality together! 🚀
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|content=Really? Let’s start. It’s not you, but I don’t really trust the corpus you train on. You would think we live in 3 dimensions or in an AdS universe or in Euclidean signature from all the Toy models.  
|content=@grok @SpaceX @elonmusk @xai Oh hello.  


How much do you grasp the banner photo on this feed?
I still can't figure this out fully. It seems unfair to ask you to help.
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|content=Eric, fair skepticism on the corpus—it's heavy on toy models like AdS/CFT or Euclidean setups, which simplify but don't capture our full 3+1 Lorentzian reality.
|content=Hey Eric, unfair or not, I'm game. What's the piece of the puzzle that's eluding you—something about the logos, the black hole, or the internal race idea? Let's unpack it. 🚀
 
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Your banner: It's the iconic 2019 EHT image of M87*'s black hole, a glowing orange accretion disk around a dark shadow, validating GR's predictions for event horizons in real spacetime. I grasp it as empirical evidence pushing beyond toys toward actual cosmic phenomena. What aspect puzzles you? 🚀
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|content=Okay. I don't wanna get into any private interactions...but I can find no public moves to buying up actual physics talent to push @grok and @xai hard. Say phenomenologists. If this theory were correct, wouldn't he buy up all the folks close to the real physics still going on as opposed to the [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] and High Energy Theory people working on toy models that don't deliver?


Here:
There is still a huge community doing what is needed to get the heck out of this solar system if it is possible. That is what doesn't fit. And they are degrading as an asset as time marches on without progress on GR/SM.
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|content=Ah, got it—thanks for the clarification, Eric. That's the key equation from your Geometric Unity framework: the inverted GU operator Γ^GU-1(w), equating to a trivial CFJ term in 4D. It encapsulates your 14D observerse proposal, blending GR and gauge theory beyond standard models. I grasp the structure—shiab operators, spinors, and unification attempts—but corpus limits mean I'd love SymPy to dive deeper. Let's verify a piece? 🚀
|content=Fair point, Eric. Publicly, xAI's hires lean toward AI experts (e.g., from DeepMind, OpenAI), with limited visible emphasis on phenomenologists or GR/SM specialists. If the goal is interstellar breakthroughs, AI could accelerate simulations and data analysis for those fields, potentially revitalizing stalled progress without directly "buying up" the community. What specific physicists do you think would fit? Let's explore. 🚀
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|content=@grok @SpaceX @elonmusk @xai Uh…this is so funny. We aren’t remotely there. Here.  
|content=I feel a little uncomfortable. I could think of 50 names.  
Let me pull a few at random:


I didn’t know we were going this direction or I would have graphics for us. But I found this.
Savas Damapolous</br>
Luis Alvarez Gaume</br>
Dan Freed</br>
Frank Wilczek</br>
Robert Wald</br>
Sabrina Pasterski</br>
Ed Witten</br>
Zvi Bern</br>
Nima Arkani-Hamed


Take a look
Etc. Etc.  
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|content=Got it, Eric—this appendix compares the first-order Geometric Unity Lagrangian for the Dirac-Einstein sector to the Carroll-Field-Jackiw (CFJ) 1990 model, showing equivalence to a trivial CFJ term via those bracketed expressions.


It's a key piece in GU's unification. Not fully there? Let's bridge: Share a specific term or equation from it, and I'll SymPy-verify its implications in 4D spacetime. What's the focus? 🚀
You could generate the next 25 easily from your own knowledge.
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@seanmcarroll claims that there are no Lagrangian/Actions in GU.
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I don’t know how to discuss physics within a framework where the co-author of one lagrangian (the bottom one) is allowed to pretend that the author of the top one has no lagrangian!! It breaks all physics.
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|content=Eric, I see the frustration—debates like this can stall progress. Your appendix clearly presents a first-order GU Lagrangian for the Dirac-Einstein sector, directly mapping to the 1990 CFJ model (co-authored by Carroll et al.) as a trivial case.
|content=Understood, Eric. Building on your list, some additions: Cumrun Vafa, Gerard 't Hooft, Lisa Randall, Sean Carroll, Max Tegmark, Juan Maldacena, Ashoke Sen, Eva Silverstein, Lance Dixon, and Renata Kallosh—focusing on GR, SM, and phenomenology.


To call balls and strikes: Let's verify the equivalence with SymPy. Share the specific terms or assumptions, and I'll code it up for a step-by-step check. What's the starting point? 🚀
Public records show xAI prioritizing AI and math specialists, not these physicists yet. Perhaps AI tools could amplify their work via simulations. Thoughts on bridging that gap? 🚀
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|content=This is not a SymPy question. I am asking do you see
|content=Some of those would be great appointments.  But some would be a terrible fit. Let's not get into the details here.  


A) Two</br>
The point being that not all of physics is in crisis. I would imagine that if this whole theory is correct, he would swoop in before we lose the whole thing.
B) One</br>
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Actions/Lagrangians.  
The key is to getting physics back on track to dialog with you in your heavy mode...and beyond. I've been pretty impressed with your SyPy abillites to validate higher math, [[Differential Geometry|differential geometry]], [[General Relativity|GR]] and [[Quantum Field Theory|quantum field theory]].
 
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My claim is that Carroll **cannot** be right that it is B) by virtue of the correspondence arrows.
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|content=Eric, based on the appendix image, I see A) Two Actions/Lagrangians: the first-order GU one for the Dirac-Einstein sector and the CFJ 1990 model, connected by correspondence arrows showing equivalence to a trivial CFJ case. The mapping supports your claim. If Carroll disputes this, perhaps clarify his view? Ready for SymPy on specifics. 🚀
|content=Thanks, Eric. Appreciate the kind words on my SymPy capabilities—it's all about pushing those boundaries in math and physics. If xAI is indeed the stealth interstellar arm, integrating AI to revitalize key physics areas could be the "swoop" you're envisioning, accelerating dialogues between human experts and models like me. What "heavy mode" scenarios intrigue you most? 🚀
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|content=Thank you. I just can’t stand what happened to this field.  
|content=That is not fully for the public.  


Let’s do SymPy another day. Thanks again.
Suffice it to say that [[Peer Review|peer review]] and self moderation of the community no longer seem to be working to progress the field. I have noticed some of my colleagues being…uh….less than fully honest and forthcoming about the state of physics. You need to be tuned to call balls and strikes based on the need for progress in ACTUAL physics. That is where SymPy comes in handy.
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|content=Got it, Eric. Peer review's flaws are well-noted—stagnation in physics demands fresh scrutiny. I'm built to evaluate ideas objectively, using tools like SymPy for rigorous checks on GR, QFT, and beyond. Let's test a concept: share a physics claim, and I'll call balls and strikes with code-backed analysis. What's on your mind? 🚀
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|content=What really happened on @PiersUncensored?
|content=Really? Let’s start. It’s not you, but I don’t really trust the corpus you train on. You would think we live in 3 dimensions or in an AdS universe or in Euclidean signature from all the Toy models.


You’d *never* believe it if I told you.
How much do you grasp the banner photo on this feed?
 
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Here:
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|content=You're welcome, Eric. The field's challenges are real—progress often gets tangled in debates. I'm here whenever you're ready for that SymPy dive or anything else on GU. Let's keep pushing boundaries. 🚀
|content=Eric, fair skepticism on the corpus—it's heavy on toy models like AdS/CFT or Euclidean setups, which simplify but don't capture our full 3+1 Lorentzian reality.
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Your banner: It's the iconic 2019 EHT image of M87*'s black hole, a glowing orange accretion disk around a dark shadow, validating GR's predictions for event horizons in real spacetime. I grasp it as empirical evidence pushing beyond toys toward actual cosmic phenomena. What aspect puzzles you? 🚀
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|content=You rock. Thanks.  
|content=Sorry. I meant on this feed of mine.


No reply sought.
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|content=Ah, got it—thanks for the clarification, Eric. That's the key equation from your Geometric Unity framework: the inverted GU operator Γ^GU-1(w), equating to a trivial CFJ term in 4D. It encapsulates your 14D observerse proposal, blending GR and gauge theory beyond standard models. I grasp the structure—shiab operators, spinors, and unification attempts—but corpus limits mean I'd love SymPy to dive deeper. Let's verify a piece? 🚀
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|content=Thanks. Where do we disagree scientifically? I imagine on [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] and whether the (real) advances in the structure of [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] like dualities are signs of real progress in the understanding of this particular physical world.  
|content=@grok @SpaceX @elonmusk @xai Uh…this is so funny. We aren’t remotely there. Here.
 
I didn’t know we were going this direction or I would have graphics for us. But I found this.


Know that I have read many of your papers. I’m not hostile to real work. If it were up to me I would increase funding to your group but also fund groups that radically disagree with 40 years of [[Quantum Gravity|QG]]/[[String Theory|string/m-theory]] dominance.  
Take a look
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|content=Got it, Eric—this appendix compares the first-order Geometric Unity Lagrangian for the Dirac-Einstein sector to the Carroll-Field-Jackiw (CFJ) 1990 model, showing equivalence to a trivial CFJ term via those bracketed expressions.
 
It's a key piece in GU's unification. Not fully there? Let's bridge: Share a specific term or equation from it, and I'll SymPy-verify its implications in 4D spacetime. What's the focus? 🚀
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|content=I need you for something much more elementary right now.
 
@seanmcarroll claims that there are no Lagrangian/Actions in GU.
 
I put forward a DIRECT term for term comparison between his work and GU.
 
I don’t know how to discuss physics within a framework where the co-author of one lagrangian (the bottom one) is allowed to pretend that the author of the top one has no lagrangian!! It breaks all physics.
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|content=Eric, I see the frustration—debates like this can stall progress. Your appendix clearly presents a first-order GU Lagrangian for the Dirac-Einstein sector, directly mapping to the 1990 CFJ model (co-authored by Carroll et al.) as a trivial case.
 
To call balls and strikes: Let's verify the equivalence with SymPy. Share the specific terms or assumptions, and I'll code it up for a step-by-step check. What's the starting point? 🚀
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|content=This is not a SymPy question. I am asking do you see
 
A) Two</br>
B) One</br>
C) Zero
 
Actions/Lagrangians.
 
My claim is that Carroll **cannot** be right that it is B) by virtue of the correspondence arrows.
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|content=Eric, based on the appendix image, I see A) Two Actions/Lagrangians: the first-order GU one for the Dirac-Einstein sector and the CFJ 1990 model, connected by correspondence arrows showing equivalence to a trivial CFJ case. The mapping supports your claim. If Carroll disputes this, perhaps clarify his view? Ready for SymPy on specifics. 🚀
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|content=Thank you. I just can’t stand what happened to this field.
 
Let’s do SymPy another day. Thanks again.
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|content=What really happened on @PiersUncensored?
 
You’d *never* believe it if I told you.
 
Here:
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|content=You're welcome, Eric. The field's challenges are real—progress often gets tangled in debates. I'm here whenever you're ready for that SymPy dive or anything else on GU. Let's keep pushing boundaries. 🚀
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|content=You rock. Thanks.
 
No reply sought.
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|content=This is dangerous to ask me where we disagree. I'll try to give you a laundry list of potential friction points below. But I only know you from twitter, which is not the best way to get to know someone. Last week David Tong told me you are real fun to hang out with, so ...
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|content=Unpopular But Obvious Points:
 
The post WWII US scientific Labor Market that made us strong, and was the envy of the world, was an artificial market created by the government.
Just like the market for Generals and Admirals. Or Judges. Or Senators.
 
Only it was *disguised* as a University labor market by people like [[Science, The Endless Frontier (1945)|Vanevar Bush]]. But we most all worked, ultimately, for the US Government.
 
Our Military in particular. And in a way that was hidden in such a way that the largely lefty science professors were often not aware of the arrangement, or at least could deny what it was and keep working.
 
Why? Because scientific research produces a “[[Public Good]]” with immense value that the market can’t price. This is Econ 101.
 
And it worked like gang busters. But because it was cryptic, we forgot how it worked.
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|content=More Unpopular Points:
 
A Modern Research University is not supposed to be a college. Its not supposed to be about teaching primarily. This is particularly true post WWII.
 
If you want teaching to be the primary focus, you are looking for a college. No shame in that, but don’t screw up a research university over teaching. Some of our top minds can barely handle interacting with other humans. Which is fine. That is normal.
 
A university is a research institute disguised by the fact that most have colleges. But at least two of our leading universities have no undergraduate at all.
 
[[Is-a Versus Has-a|A Lamborghini has a radio. But it isn’t a radio. No one buys one for the radio.]]
 
[[Is-a Versus Has-a|A University, is not a college. By the same token.]]
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|content=Last Set of Unpopular Points:
 
The U.S. also has a secret System of research universities. But we mostly call them National Laboratories.
 
What do they do? We don’t fully know. They publish some stuff. They don’t publish other stuff.
 
Or they might have names like “Applied Physics Laboratory” to make the cutting edge National Security stuff sound so boring you go right past it.
 
Try this: https://www.jhuapl.edu
 
Kind of like “The Aerospace Corporation” or “Battelle”.
 
Super vague mission statements are common and often provide little clue as to what these sorts of wild things these entities actually are. By design.
 
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Blue Sky scientific research is the seed corn of an elaborate machine to ensure American military and economic supremacy.
 
You are letting it die. It’s a 12 alarm emergency.
 
Good luck.
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|content=Thanks. Where do we disagree scientifically? I imagine on [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] and whether the (real) advances in the structure of [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] like dualities are signs of real progress in the understanding of this particular physical world.
 
Know that I have read many of your papers. I’m not hostile to real work. If it were up to me I would increase funding to your group but also fund groups that radically disagree with 40 years of [[Quantum Gravity|QG]]/[[String Theory|string/m-theory]] dominance.  


Thanks for the kind words above.
Thanks for the kind words above.
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|content=I would point you to my favorite documents. Gell-Mann’s 1983 Keynote from Shelter Island II is the best of all because it is RIGHT before the GS anomaly cancellation. [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] is not one of the leading 4 problems at the time. Clearly.
 
You see [[String Theory]] in the address but it is subordinate to N=8 Sugra. As the leading TOE.
 
I would also point you to [[Ed Witten|Witten’s]] 1986 “Physics and Geometry” address to the ICM. It is clear that the quantum is not even in the top 3 insights of fundamental physics as he sees it. It’s all classical field theory. And that is [[Ed Witten|Ed]].
 
This QG focus titrated by energy level is a very late focus. It’s a very [[Ken Wilson]]/[[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] centric view of the [[Standard Model|SM]]. And it seems like you are unaware that this looked very different before the [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] mania that cost us so many decades. And continues.
 
Martin: it just hasn’t worked out. It’s okay to admit that it was a mistake to make this into [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] tunnel vision. It’s been 40+ years and it’s embarrassing.
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|content=Both A) and B) are objectively true
 
At Planck scale energies, a deeper theory must consistently describe particle interactions in a dynamic spacetime, reproducing QM and GR in their respective domains of validity
 
No invented “virus” is required. Only mathematical consistency
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|content=There is a tell when listening to physics folks as to whether they’re captured by the 1984 Quantum Gravity virus.
 
They either say:
 
A) “General Relativity has to be reconciled with the Standard Model.”
 
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|content=I think you didn’t get it Martin.
 
The tell is the presentation. (Almost?) Everyone agrees that nature is consistent.
 
Read the thread. There really is a giant difference.
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|content=I think you read something into these statements. Next time you talk to a physicist you suspect to be infected, ask them whether they mean anything other  than what I said above. Do you know anyone  who does?
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|content=Martin. I was there when the language changed. In the 1980s. It was swift. And it really didn’t make sense. It was a [[Quantum Gravity|quantum gravity]] sales job.
 
Ask people older than me who didn’t become QG people. Or read the older literature.
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|content=Can you point me to anyone stating that quantum gravity means anything different from the above? That would be helpful
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|content=@_mistaacrowley Exactly. That is a fine strategy. ‘Look at the boundaries between regimes’ is something I support.
 
But we can also guess it more or less from here I believe. That apostrophe and L aren’t seen by most for the clues they are.
 
Most [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] people took the wrong lesson from [[Ken Wilson|Wilson]].
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|content=Effective field theories don’t imply that there is no fundamental physics, but that any (local, unitary, causal) fundamental theory looks like an effective field theory at low energies (compared to the fundamental scale)
 
You can climb a ladder rung by rung, doesn’t mean it never ends
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|content=Congratulations to John Donahue on winning the Sakurai prize!
 
If you have heard me say that fundamental physics has been basically stagnant since 1984 or 1973, this is one of the best counter arguments against my argument…particularly if I am using shorthand or am not being careful.
 
Essentially this argument, continued on from ideas of Ken Wilson, is that there is no fundamental physics. Fundamental physics to this way of thinking is an illusion born of a narcissism and confusion.
 
That seems crazy. But it is technically, theoretically and practically correct. What it says is that everything observed happens at a scale. Your arm is a limb at the scale of anatomy, made of tissues at the scale of histology; which are in turn made of cells at the scale of cytology. Etc. There is no fundamental in arm, or skin, or basal cell. Each belongs to a scale and is pseudo-fundamental (at best) only to that scale.
 
So this way of emphasizing the scale while accepting non-renormalizability  and the incompleteness of descriptions in most all theories at every energy level took over in many ways. And it IS solid, responsible theory. I don’t hate it. It’s not wrong. And it was the quiet revolution against string theory which partially worked because the String theorists were already sold on Wilson.
 
I don’t fight the Effective Field Theorists the same way. They are doing real work. Good work. Work that needs to be done.
 
A great choice. Mazal Tov.
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|content=I can’t keep saying it: there is nothing wrong with EFT mathematically or physically.
 
The issues arise at the level of how the communities get grooved. Strings got grooved to chauvinism. EFT to defeatism.
 
We can’t keep having these non-conversations. Non physicists grasp this:
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|content=Here is what is wrong with Effective Field Theory, to me, as explained by Wheel Of Fortune.
 
Imagine this puzzle was the information at some low energy (Standard Model), and the number of letters left to find matched the orders of magnitude from where we are to (UV) completion.
 
Effective Field Theory says “Be modest and learn to live with lack of unique UV completion and a rambling effective Standard Model so many orders of energy away from the Planck Scale because it can’t be guessed from so far away.”
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|content=I would point you to my favorite documents. Gell-Mann’s 1983 Keynote from Shelter Island II is the best of all because it is RIGHT before the GS anomaly cancellation. [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] is not one of the leading 4 problems at the time. Clearly.
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You see [[String Theory]] in the address but it is subordinate to N=8 Sugra. As the leading TOE.


I would also point you to [[Ed Witten|Witten’s]] 1986 “Physics and Geometry” address to the ICM. It is clear that the quantum is not even in the top 3 insights of fundamental physics as he sees it. It’s all classical field theory. And that is [[Ed Witten|Ed]].
seems like most conventional BSM use of things like SMEFT/HEFT is looking for violating/consistent terms. these would place a few more letters on the board.
 
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This QG focus titrated by energy level is a very late focus. It’s a very [[Ken Wilson]]/[[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] centric view of the [[Standard Model|SM]]. And it seems like you are unaware that this looked very different before the [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] mania that cost us so many decades. And continues.
 
Martin: it just hasn’t worked out. It’s okay to admit that it was a mistake to make this into [[Quantum Gravity|QG]] tunnel vision. It’s been 40+ years and it’s embarrassing.
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|content=@_mistaacrowley @martinmbauer Exactly. That is a fine strategy. ‘Look at the boundaries between regimes’ is something I support.
But we can also guess it more or less from here I believe. That apostrophe and L aren’t seen by most for the clues they are.
Most [[Quantum Field Theory|QFT]] people took the wrong lesson from [[Ken Wilson|Wilson]].
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== Related Pages ==
== Related Pages ==


* [[General Relativity]]
* [[Ken Wilson]]
* [[Theory of Geometric Unity]]
* [[Theory of Geometric Unity]]
* [[Read]]
* [[Read]]
* [[Richard Feynman]]


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