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|content=I would take a look at [https://www.nobelprize.org/uploads/2018/06/samuelson-lecture.pdf '''Paul Samuelson'''’s Nobel lecture]. He goes into depth on revealed preference and preference field non-integrability. I think we have lost track of the fact that integrability of tastes was never actually settled except by fiat. Will talk on this.
|content=I would take a look at [https://www.nobelprize.org/uploads/2018/06/samuelson-lecture.pdf '''Paul Samuelson'''’s Nobel lecture]. He goes into depth on [[Revealed Preference|revealed preference]] and preference field non-integrability. I think we have lost track of the fact that integrability of tastes was never actually settled except by fiat. Will talk on this.
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|content=I am not sure. But the first question I have is do we believe ordinal preference maps are constructable from revealed preference.
|content=I am not sure. But the first question I have is do we believe ordinal preference maps are constructable from [[Revealed Preference|revealed preference]].
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|content=I was lucky enough as a younger man to get to know Ken Arrow and '''Paul Samuelson''' slightly. They didn’t have this trait. Talking to Arrow or '''Samuelson''' was like talking to a research mathematician, biologist or physicist at the time. It wasn’t switching between reality & propoganda.
|content=I was lucky enough as a younger man to get to know [[Ken Arrow]] and [[Paul Samuelson]] slightly. They didn’t have this trait. Talking to [[Ken Arrow|Arrow]] or [[Paul Samuelson|Samuelson]] was like talking to a research mathematician, biologist or physicist at the time. It wasn’t switching between reality & propoganda.
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|content=He was very supportive of me. If I had to make a single choice it might be him or '''Samuelson'''.
|content=He was very supportive of me. If I had to make a single choice it might be him or [[Paul Samuelson|Samuelson]].
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|content=[[François Divisia]] or [[Ken Arrow]] or '''Paul Samuelson''' or Satoshi or [[Ronald Coase]] etc.... would be easy to defend.  
|content=[[François Divisia]] or [[Ken Arrow]] or [[Paul Samuelson]] or Satoshi or [[Ronald Coase]] etc.... would be easy to defend.  


But Graciela Chichilnisky or Bert Balk would be more interesting offbeat choices I could defend. I don't think they got their due for what is coming in mathematical econ.
But Graciela Chichilnisky or Bert Balk would be more interesting offbeat choices I could defend. I don't think they got their due for what is coming in mathematical econ.
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|content=[[Ken Arrow|Arrow]], Frisch, '''Samuelson''', VonNeumann, Nash, Friedman, Smith, Mill, [[François Divisia|Divisia]], '''Coase''', Marshall, Fisher, Debreu, Tinbergen, etc.  
|content=[[Ken Arrow|Arrow]], Frisch, [[Paul Samuelson|Samuelson]], VonNeumann, Nash, Friedman, Smith, Mill, [[François Divisia|Divisia]], [[Ronald Coase|Coase]], Marshall, Fisher, Debreu, Tinbergen, etc.  


I have deep issues with economics. But I don’t think I understand your point.
I have deep issues with economics. But I don’t think I understand your point.
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=== 2025 ===
=== 2025 ===


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|content=It’s as if we, the U.S., hate being the worlds premier homegrown scientific community. All it takes is reversing self inflicted damage. That’s it. That’s all.
We seem to hate our own scientists.
It makes no sense. At least to me.
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|content=Yes. I’m saying that the [[Jim Simons]], [[Richard Feynman]], [[Jim Watson]], [[Steven Weinberg]], [[Sidney Coleman]], [[Ken Arrow]], [[Linus Pauling]], [[Isadore Singer]], [[Joshua Lederberg]], [[Steve Smale]], [[Paul Samuelson]], [[Mark Ptashne]], [[John Milnor]], model of homegrown American scientific genius is being destroyed.
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|content=Is anyone concerned about this? It sure doesn’t seem it.
Science needs [[Academic Freedom|academic freedom]]. It needs resources. It needs independence.
Fauci and Collins would have been impossible if we were healthy.
It is not safe to make scientists into mere employees.
It’s way too dangerous.
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|content=Gary wasn’t stupid. He was just on a failed dead end mission of intellectual suicide. He was shrewd, creative and wildly wrong about human beings at levels that are difficult to convey.
And so it fell to him to tell the ultimate academic lie on behalf of his profession of economics: all humans have stable unchanging tastes.
So dumb. So unethical. Such an intellectually pathetic move. But then he was refereeing the same game within which he was flagrantly cheating.
He was easy to beat in any argument not judged by ideologues. But in Chicago and elsewhere they pretended this was genius rather than a flagrant attempt at patching the vulnerabilities that will sink Neo Classixal economic imperialism.
He lived, and died, in a protected world, not unlike an academic Hermit Kingdom. An intellectual North Korea where people were always bowing before him if they wanted to survive and needed his favor.
But the vulnerability is real. And believe me, he and I both knew it. It was tense as hell dealing with him for a reason:
The fiction of Stable Tastes is THE analog of rhe exhaust vent on the Death Star of NeoClassical Economjc Imperialism. His life’s work.
I look forward to showing you just how that little exhaust vent works.
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|content=Unlike [[Paul Samuelson]] & [[Ken Arrow]],
[[Gary Becker]] was cut from different cloth. He reminded me of my dealings w/ [[Lenny Susskind]], Larry Summers, Brad Delong, Jagdish Bhagwati, [[Ed Witten]], Mildred Dresselhaus & others, so possessed by ideology that academic reason could just vanish.
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|content=In my recent interview of @EricRWeinstein, he referred to "stable preferences" as Achilles' heel of neoclassical econ. Exhibit A is this famous quote from Becker. At face value, Becker is saying a model w/dynamic preferences wouldn't even be economics anymore. Do others agree?
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