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|content=Yet your âPhysicsâ thesis is 153 pages. | |||
Take care, slugger. https://t.co/LMn2in0Bzf | |||
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|content=Fascinating exchange gentlemenâŠso odd. | |||
Why donât you also bring up the metaplectic correction and point out that I donât mention that? | |||
Or ordering considerations of classical operators? | |||
That would allow you both to cast even more (unsupported) aspersions. | |||
In truth you are not making a deep point. You are making the quantum supremacy point that we should take classical limits of quantum systems. Not naively quantize classical theoriesâŠlike we used to do when we were succeeding. | |||
Yet the Standard Model stubbornly remains a classical field theory that got quantized. Mysteriously dodging near certain death on all sides. What are the odds!! | |||
Well, there might be deep classical reasons for that improbable outcome that escape the quantum supremacists. I meanâŠitâs just possible. | |||
[[Morals|MORAL]]: Not everyone is an ignorant idiot just because they think your community is 40+ years stalled groupthinking this exact way. I donât think you are ignorant or stupid. I donât think you are pseudoscientists. Or grifters. Or any of that. I just think you are wrong in your total approach. Thatâs just science. The quantum gravity crowd has demanded a victory parade for 40+ years over all other approaches while it fails to launch year after year after year. That is not science. Iâm sorry. I donât make that rule. | |||
[[Morals|MORAL II]]: You might want to bring up polarization independence and the difficulty of proving (projective) flatness in the polarization discussion, if you want to be even more condescending. You might also laugh to yourselves that the classical hadron and lepton sectors donât even separately quantize! I donât know why this doesnât occur to you. And finally, you might want to assert that I am ignorant of Groenewoldâvan Hove and have a chuckle about that too. Just a suggestion. | |||
Have fun. And good day, gentlemen. Keep up the high standards and good work. | |||
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|content=Buddy, we're not doing "quantum supremacy". But if you wanna quantise a classical theory you must work for it. You don't get to yell "self-quantising" and call it a day | |||
You must check topological conditions & choose/prove independence of polarisation & the prequantum line bundle | |||
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|content=Which is both INCREDIBLE and difficult as it stands. Yes? No? I mean I think I get this. | |||
Like itâs almost a miracle that it works at all: | |||
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|content=Now you're getting it! :) | |||
And not only difficult but often simply false. Many classical phase spaces dont admit prequantum line bundles. Others don't have a unique one | |||
And the choice of polarisation can be the difference between a finite- and infinite-dimensional Hilbert space! | |||
|timestamp=3:43 PM · Sep 6, 2025 | |||
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|content=âBuddyâ | |||
âNow you're getting it! :)â | |||
You guys are just so full of yourselves. What are youâŠin your 20s? Born around AdS/CFT? Am I your problem student finally coming along to âget itâ? | |||
You think I canât understand you! Right? Like you are my teacher or something. Adorable. | |||
I forget what this community is like. You do realize you are still playing with toy models working a million miles away from actual laboratory physics? | |||
Take a look out your window Tim: No quarks. No neutrinos. No generations. You are on the train to '''NERPH (Not Even Remotely Physics)'''. You just donât know it. Before long you will leave for a job so you can buy a house or retire without ever having made contact with physical reality. As a physics person. Wake up. | |||
Youâre not even in spacetime Tim. You are likely playing with Riemann surfaces. Your âHiggs Fieldsâ are often valued in the adjoint bundles. Your metrics are often Euclidean signature. Your SUSY is likely unsupported by any LHC superpartners. Etc. Etc. | |||
You actually think I donât get it because if I did âget itâ I would certainly agree with you. | |||
Like I canât read what you wrote here or I wouldnât be saying these things: | |||
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|content=If those two little interjections are enough to set you off like this, you really need to get your temper in check lmao | |||
Remember, champ: brevity is the soul of wit | |||
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Fascinating exchange gentlemenâŠso odd.
Why donât you also bring up the metaplectic correction and point out that I donât mention that?
Or ordering considerations of classical operators?
That would allow you both to cast even more (unsupported) aspersions.
In truth you are not making a deep point. You are making the quantum supremacy point that we should take classical limits of quantum systems. Not naively quantize classical theoriesâŠlike we used to do when we were succeeding.
Yet the Standard Model stubbornly remains a classical field theory that got quantized. Mysteriously dodging near certain death on all sides. What are the odds!!
Well, there might be deep classical reasons for that improbable outcome that escape the quantum supremacists. I meanâŠitâs just possible.
MORAL: Not everyone is an ignorant idiot just because they think your community is 40+ years stalled groupthinking this exact way. I donât think you are ignorant or stupid. I donât think you are pseudoscientists. Or grifters. Or any of that. I just think you are wrong in your total approach. Thatâs just science. The quantum gravity crowd has demanded a victory parade for 40+ years over all other approaches while it fails to launch year after year after year. That is not science. Iâm sorry. I donât make that rule.
MORAL II: You might want to bring up polarization independence and the difficulty of proving (projective) flatness in the polarization discussion, if you want to be even more condescending. You might also laugh to yourselves that the classical hadron and lepton sectors donât even separately quantize! I donât know why this doesnât occur to you. And finally, you might want to assert that I am ignorant of Groenewoldâvan Hove and have a chuckle about that too. Just a suggestion.
Have fun. And good day, gentlemen. Keep up the high standards and good work.
Buddy, we're not doing "quantum supremacy". But if you wanna quantise a classical theory you must work for it. You don't get to yell "self-quantising" and call it a day
You must check topological conditions & choose/prove independence of polarisation & the prequantum line bundle
Which is both INCREDIBLE and difficult as it stands. Yes? No? I mean I think I get this.
Like itâs almost a miracle that it works at all:
Now you're getting it! :)
And not only difficult but often simply false. Many classical phase spaces dont admit prequantum line bundles. Others don't have a unique one
And the choice of polarisation can be the difference between a finite- and infinite-dimensional Hilbert space!
âBuddyâ
âNow you're getting it! :)â
You guys are just so full of yourselves. What are youâŠin your 20s? Born around AdS/CFT? Am I your problem student finally coming along to âget itâ?
You think I canât understand you! Right? Like you are my teacher or something. Adorable.
I forget what this community is like. You do realize you are still playing with toy models working a million miles away from actual laboratory physics?
Take a look out your window Tim: No quarks. No neutrinos. No generations. You are on the train to NERPH (Not Even Remotely Physics). You just donât know it. Before long you will leave for a job so you can buy a house or retire without ever having made contact with physical reality. As a physics person. Wake up.
Youâre not even in spacetime Tim. You are likely playing with Riemann surfaces. Your âHiggs Fieldsâ are often valued in the adjoint bundles. Your metrics are often Euclidean signature. Your SUSY is likely unsupported by any LHC superpartners. Etc. Etc.
You actually think I donât get it because if I did âget itâ I would certainly agree with you.
Like I canât read what you wrote here or I wouldnât be saying these things:
If those two little interjections are enough to set you off like this, you really need to get your temper in check lmao
Remember, champ: brevity is the soul of wit
Yet your âPhysicsâ thesis is 153 pages.
Take care, slugger. https://t.co/LMn2in0Bzf
