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	OBVIOUSLY.		OBVIOUSLY.

	As I have said before, "When we do something secret and cool, we generally pair it with something fake." This is standard operating proceedure (e.g. Operation Overlord was D-Day/Operation Fortitude was a Faked Norway Invasion). This is what 'Covert' means. Covert means 'Deniable'. Not secret, but deniable.		As I have said before, [[Whenever We Do Something Secret and Cool, We Pair It With Something Fake\|"When we do something secret and cool, we generally pair it with something fake."]] This is standard operating proceedure (e.g. Operation Overlord was D-Day/Operation Fortitude was a Faked Norway Invasion). This is what 'Covert' means. Covert means 'Deniable'. Not secret, but deniable.

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	\|content=They then instituted the standards of Collegiality laced by abuse, insult, insinuation, inuendo, and humiliation that you and your crowd now exhibit because your elders taught you to abuse those who won’t go along with the ever changing [Quantum Gravity\|QG]] [[String Theory]] narrative. Total violation of science ethics.		\|content=They then instituted the standards of Collegiality laced by abuse, insult, insinuation, inuendo, and humiliation that you and your crowd now exhibit because your elders taught you to abuse those who won’t go along with the ever changing [[Quantum Gravity\|QG]] [[String Theory]] narrative. Total violation of science ethics.

	I think you are wrong. But not 100% wrong. You’re just following Lubos Motl currying favors with elders by doing the dirty work. You won’t be the last.		I think you are wrong. But not 100% wrong. You’re just following Lubos Motl currying favors with elders by doing the dirty work. You won’t be the last.

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			\|name=Eric Weinstein
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			\|content=They then instituted the standards of Collegiality laced by abuse, insult, insinuation, inuendo, and humiliation that you and your crowd now exhibit because your elders taught you to abuse those who won’t go along with the ever changing QG String Theory narrative. Total violation of science ethics.

			I think you are wrong. But not 100% wrong. You’re just following Lubos Motl currying favors with elders by doing the dirty work. You won’t be the last.

			Think about it “Superconformal Hassan”: does it seem odd to you that your heroes are old and grey and are still claiming that this is STILL [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)\|TOGIT (the only game in town)]]? Even Sheldon Cooper checked out a decade or more ago.

			It’s over. It failed. I’m sorry. Face it.

			You protest too much methinks.

			Hassan: You have no idea what frontier physics even is as a successful field. It was killed off before you even entered. It’s a giant “too big to fail bubble” that never worked.

			And it just turned 42 years old.

			Good luck Hassan.

			Be well.

			P.S. And if you are going to be super nasty and lie, tag me next time.
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			\|content=“There is no substance in the point that you are referring to.”

			Wow. In 2026 I’m not putting up with this.

			Zero substance? None. Really? Ok.

			What are the odds of that? That I would be 100% wrong? Essentially zero.

			You are simply delusional, @Hassaan_PHY.

			The field of [[Quantum Gravity\|QuantumGravity]] is, for the most part, a mass delusion as physics. It’s a mitigated disaster.
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			\|content=I am sorry but there is no substance in the point that you are refering to. It is a false narrative which is perpetuated by cherry picking some anecdotes and ignoring the significant body of counter-arguments that anyone brings against this narrative.
			Moreover, it is you sir who needs to wrestle with all the counter-arguments that people have put forward. Every erroneous point that you have made during some podcast appearance (or your paper) has been answered by someone on the internet. I will even find those answers for you if you ask. When it comes to wrestling with arguments, the ball is in your court. Wrestle with these cruticisms of your narrative instead of saying "Who is Theo?" whenever someone brings up these criticisms.
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			\|content=Let’s say it simply. 42Yrs ago, Ed Witten, Lenny Susskind, David Gross, Etc. drove fundamental physics off a cliff into a crevasse called Quantum Gravity. Because this was obviously a disaster, they set themselves up as the referees of frontier physics in which they are not self-critical.

			And you don’t have the guts to say it. So you look for a scapegoat.
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			\|content=They created [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)\|TOGIT: The Only Game In Town]]. And they ended the careers of people competing with them by insinuation that only they were succeeding.

			They abused their authority Hassan. They abused the High Trust of academe. And you are following them.
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	D) There is a history of fakery in warfare and national security that could explain this.		D) There is a history of fakery in warfare and national security that could explain this.

	E) High level physicists like John Wheeler, Bryce DeWitt, Louis Witten, Pascal Jordan, Herman Bondi, etc were previously part of some bizarre secret anti-gravity efforts related to UFO programs that birthed our common era of [[Quantum Gravity]].		E) High level physicists like John Wheeler, Bryce DeWitt, Louis Witten, [[Pascual Jordan\|Pascal Jordan]], Herman Bondi, etc were previously part of some bizarre secret anti-gravity efforts related to UFO programs that birthed our common era of [[Quantum Gravity]].

	F) [[Quantum Gravity]], at least publicly, does not appear to work by historical standards in its 71 year history.		F) [[Quantum Gravity]], at least publicly, does not appear to work by historical standards in its 71 year history.

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	\|content=So by simply getting rid of most of the failed 1928-1947 leadership and focusing on the most promising untested physicists, a $12K slush fund in today's dollars changed history ending a two decade stagnation debuting Feynman's Path Integral, the Lamb Shift & the two Meson theory.		\|content=So by simply getting rid of most of the failed 1928-1947 leadership and focusing on the most promising untested physicists, a $12K slush fund in today's dollars changed history ending a two decade stagnation debuting [[Richard Feynman\|Feynman's]] Path Integral, the Lamb Shift & the two Meson theory.
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	\|content=According to many of the participants these three conferences (but particularly Shelter Island) were the most important conferences of their entire careers. Feynman was in his late 20s. This is how you get unstuck. How you build leadership. How you stop failing year after year...		\|content=According to many of the participants these three conferences (but particularly [[Shelter Island Conference (1947)\|Shelter Island]]) were the most important conferences of their entire careers. [[Richard Feynman\|Feynman]] was in his late 20s. This is how you get unstuck. How you build leadership. How you stop failing year after year...
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	\|content=I don’t think that’s the issue Joseph. At all.		\|content=I don’t think that’s the issue Joseph. At all.

	Feynman, Glashow, Wilczek never found them objectively or absolutely compelling.		[[Richard Feynman\|Feynman]], Glashow, Wilczek never found them objectively or absolutely compelling.

	[[String Theory\|String theorists]] like Friedan have written harshly of the Failures.		[[String Theory\|String theorists]] like Friedan have written harshly of the Failures.

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	Everyone who said “Wait: why are we changing the core mission to [[Quantum Gravity\|‘Quantizing Gravity’]]?? Weren’t we supposed to explain the observed particle spectrum? And the weirdness of the Higgs sector as Deus Ex Machina? And the origin of chirality? Etc etc.”		Everyone who said “Wait: why are we changing the core mission to [[Quantum Gravity\|‘Quantizing Gravity’]]?? Weren’t we supposed to explain the observed particle spectrum? And the weirdness of the Higgs sector as Deus Ex Machina? And the origin of chirality? Etc etc.”

	Feynman/Glashow/Perl/Etc.		[[Richard Feynman\|Feynman]]/Glashow/Perl/Etc.

	It was a total switcheroo.		It was a total switcheroo.
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	\|content=Sorry. By whom? Do I expect to be taken seriously by the many [[String Theory\|String Theorists]] who called their colleagues morons, frauds and “not serious” behind their backs? No. I don’t.		\|content=Sorry. By whom? Do I expect to be taken seriously by the many [[String Theory\|String Theorists]] who called their colleagues morons, frauds and “not serious” behind their backs? No. I don’t.

	I expect them to leave the field. Then we can get back to doing physics. The subset of reasonable [[String Theory\|string theorists]] who know this problem well and are still doing science? Well….They know ST/QG has a problem and they hate it too. And I do care about them.		I expect them to leave the field. Then we can get back to doing physics. The subset of reasonable [[String Theory\|string theorists]] who know this problem well and are still doing science? Well….They know [[String Theory\|ST]]/[[Quantum Gravity\|QG]] has a problem and they hate it too. And I do care about them.

	That isn’t a mind virus. The mind virus is specifically the tortured defense of [[String Theory\|string theory]] and [[Quantum Gravity\|quantum gravity]] by attacking colleagues without admitting its massive failure. And that is a mind virus. I stand by that. It’s atrocious.		That isn’t a mind virus. The mind virus is specifically the tortured defense of [[String Theory\|string theory]] and [[Quantum Gravity\|quantum gravity]] by attacking colleagues without admitting its massive failure. And that is a mind virus. I stand by that. It’s atrocious.

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	\|content=They then instituted the standards of Collegiality laced by abuse, insult, insinuation, inuendo, and humiliation that you and your crowd now exhibit because your elders taught you to abuse those who won’t go along with the ever changing QG String Theory narrative. Total violation of science ethics.		\|content=They then instituted the standards of Collegiality laced by abuse, insult, insinuation, inuendo, and humiliation that you and your crowd now exhibit because your elders taught you to abuse those who won’t go along with the ever changing [Quantum Gravity\|QG]] [[String Theory]] narrative. Total violation of science ethics.

	I think you are wrong. But not 100% wrong. You’re just following Lubos Motl currying favors with elders by doing the dirty work. You won’t be the last.		I think you are wrong. But not 100% wrong. You’re just following Lubos Motl currying favors with elders by doing the dirty work. You won’t be the last.
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	\|content=Let’s say it simply. 42Yrs ago, Ed Witten, Lenny Susskind, David Gross, Etc. drove fundamental physics off a cliff into a crevasse called Quantum Gravity. Because this was obviously a disaster, they set themselves up as the referees of frontier physics in which they are not self-critical.		\|content=Let’s say it simply. 42Yrs ago, [[Ed Witten]], [[Lenny Susskind]], David Gross, Etc. drove fundamental physics off a cliff into a crevasse called [[Quantum Gravity]]. Because this was obviously a disaster, they set themselves up as the referees of frontier physics in which they are not self-critical.

	And you don’t have the guts to say it. So you look for a scapegoat.		And you don’t have the guts to say it. So you look for a scapegoat.
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	I think we have had answers for 40 years. And I want none of the [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)\|TOGIT]] cult evaluating them.		I think we have had answers for 40 years. And I want none of the [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)\|TOGIT]] cult evaluating them.

	My claim is that we don’t know if [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)\|TOGIT]] is holding back progress outside string theory until we stop listening to their anti-science claims.		My claim is that we don’t know if [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)\|TOGIT]] is holding back progress outside [[String Theory\|string theory]] until we stop listening to their anti-science claims.

	I claim that [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)\|TOGIT]] is not our leading theory and has NEVER been for 40 years. It’s fake. It doesn’t work. There is no explanation in all of science that permits [[Ed Witten\|Ed]] and [[Lenny Susskind\|Lenny]] and Andy and company to exclude unexplored ideas and people that may well have succeed where they in particular have failed.		I claim that [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)\|TOGIT]] is not our leading theory and has NEVER been for 40 years. It’s fake. It doesn’t work. There is no explanation in all of science that permits [[Ed Witten\|Ed]] and [[Lenny Susskind\|Lenny]] and Andy and company to exclude unexplored ideas and people that may well have succeed where they in particular have failed.
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	The problem is only one group is allowed to present ideas about the origins of the [[Standard Model\|SM]] and [[General Relativity\|GR]] without derision, deliberate misinterpretation, theft, character assassination, inteuendo. This is [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)\|“The Only Game In Town”]] or [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)\|TOGIT]] cult. Some of us have tried to challenge this group scientifically for more than 40 years.		The problem is only one group is allowed to present ideas about the origins of the [[Standard Model\|SM]] and [[General Relativity\|GR]] without derision, deliberate misinterpretation, theft, character assassination, inteuendo. This is [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)\|“The Only Game In Town”]] or [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)\|TOGIT]] cult. Some of us have tried to challenge this group scientifically for more than 40 years.

	The trouble is when you say “Let’s hear from all the people with ideas that directly contradict the String Theory leaders.”		The trouble is when you say “Let’s hear from all the people with ideas that directly contradict the [[String Theory]] leaders.”

	The problem is that this is what holds back progress. What is holding back progress is senior physicists who wont allow dissidents in good standing who think [[Lenny Susskind\|Susskind]] and [[Ed Witten\|Witten]] and Gross just oversaw the most spectacular catastrophe in modern physics.		The problem is that this is what holds back progress. What is holding back progress is senior physicists who wont allow dissidents in good standing who think [[Lenny Susskind\|Susskind]] and [[Ed Witten\|Witten]] and Gross just oversaw the most spectacular catastrophe in modern physics.
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	\|content=If you want to complain about QG, please go ahead. It's nowhere on my list. However, even the reframing that QG is well-defined as an effective theory is a novel development (also not clear in the 60s-70s). But part of the problem is your reframing QG = all fundamental physics.		\|content=If you want to complain about [Quantum Gravity\|QG]], please go ahead. It's nowhere on my list. However, even the reframing that [Quantum Gravity\|QG]] is well-defined as an effective theory is a novel development (also not clear in the 60s-70s). But part of the problem is your reframing [Quantum Gravity\|QG]] = all fundamental physics.
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	“But part of the problem is your reframing QG = all fundamental physics.”		“But part of the problem is your reframing [Quantum Gravity\|QG]] = all fundamental physics.”

	I’m saying the opposite. I’m saying that the QG people made all of fundamental physics about their view of quantizing gravity. I’m saying that was the catastrophe.		I’m saying the opposite. I’m saying that the [Quantum Gravity\|QG]] people made all of fundamental physics about their view of quantizing gravity. I’m saying that was the catastrophe.
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	No one smart wants to complain. They want to do work, have it evaluated and get credit for their ideas so they can do more work and have a good life.		No one smart wants to complain. They want to do work, have it evaluated and get credit for their ideas so they can do more work and have a good life.

	The complainers are those trying to say “No one gets to give seminars about the origin of chirality or 3 generations unless it comes out of The Only Game In Town:		The complainers are those trying to say “No one gets to give seminars about the origin of chirality or 3 generations unless it comes out of [[The Only Game in Town (TOGIT)\|The Only Game In Town]]:
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