Editing Free Speech (section)

=== 2019 ===

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|content=Also, in Motte and Bailey, the Bailey is being maintained. It’s not an attacking position. The lord is not questing to conquer the lands of others. I don’t know whether people make that distinction. Eager to learn more.
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|content=1/ I’ve been noticing a ubiquitous technique recently upon which I have seen little commented. “Punchable face”, #killallmen, “Open Borders”, “Tax is Theft”, “Believe Women”, “Free markets”, “Free Speech” and uptalking are examples. I want to explain here what I see linking them.
|timestamp=4:22 PM · Jan 28, 2019
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|content=2/ The technique involves bundling an attacking position and a retreating position where the retreat is low cost and reasonable while the attack is wildly simplistic, irresponsible and generally too expensive to maintain. The attack is frequently literal &amp; the retreat figurative.
|timestamp=4:22 PM · Jan 28, 2019
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|content=3/ As @ezraklein pointed out for the attack position #KillAllMen dripping with sexism &amp; misandry, the retreat position is “it would be nice if the world sucked less for women”. Likewise “Open Borders” can collapse all the way down to “I don’t want to see immigrants scapegoated”.
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|content=4/ Uptalking seems to be a speech pattern that has, among other benefits, figured out how to make an aggressive statement which would normally be costly in the underlying text for the price of just kinda maybe sorta asking a much less expensive (leading) question with one’s tone.
|timestamp=4:22 PM · Jan 28, 2019
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|content=5/ “Tax is theft” is a broad clean insane attack on nationhood, but if you bring up the problem of military protection as a well known public good &amp; market defect, you get told that “Tax is Teft” is just a plea for smaller more prudent government. Okay. So why are we doing this?
|timestamp=4:22 PM · Jan 28, 2019
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|content=6/ In the previous examples, the literal position has been the aggressive one, but that’s not even always true. Sometime I hear “Feminism is simply the proposition that women are equal.” which would be the retreat position with which only a loon would be tempted to argue.
|timestamp=4:22 PM · Jan 28, 2019
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|content=7/ Let’s call amalgams of attack and retreat Split-Level Arguments. We need to stop allowing these gambits to go unnoticed. They are like Navy SEALS dressed up as adorable toddlers. If you‘re advancing “Free Markets”, pay the price for the simplicity you just bought when pressed.
|timestamp=4:22 PM · Jan 28, 2019
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|content=End/ Let’s come up with language to make it very expensive to repeatedly push for something simple, clear &amp; wrong as if we were just saying something reasonable &amp; nuanced. 

If you’ve noticed this trend, send me examples or anyone else’s name for it. Thx! 🙏

<nowiki>#</nowiki>SplitLevelArguments
|timestamp=4:22 PM · Jan 28, 2019
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|content=POST/ Deepity and Motte &amp; Bailey are definitely examples of this kind of phenomena as people are pointing out. Question: do they cover the “Uptalking” example to your satisfaction? I’m looking for one universal label that covers them all. Thanks.
|timestamp=4:35 PM · Jan 28, 2019
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|timestamp=4:38 PM · Jan 28, 2019
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|content=@rjheathfield Kiddie porn, military secrets, fighting words, etc...
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|content=The one that interests me is Free Speech, which (after your intro) you didn't mention again in your main thread. Because I am in favour of free speech, I'm curious to know in what way you think it can be considered aggressive. (No sarcasm here - genuinely curious!)
|timestamp=4:29 PM · Jan 28, 2019
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|timestamp=4:39 PM · Jan 28, 2019
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|content=Huh? She’s great as a human. Don’t know her work much. Why? Very generous with her time and insightful on free speech and business harassment involving web commerce.
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|content=Riley Reid Really?
|timestamp=5:36 AM · Feb 01, 2019
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|timestamp=5:36 AM · Feb 01, 2019
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|content=What about cryptic public funding of private institutions through “overhead”?

The use of “post-docs” and “TAs” as cryptic labor posing as training?

Student unions?

The explosion of tuition/administrators?

Research Gerontocracy?

Free speech vs safe speech?

Let us know? 🙏!
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|content=.@SamHarrisOrg & I are coming to Cambridge/Boston as arguably the most important academic metropolis in the world. What is it that must be, yet can’t be, discussed w/ the Mass Ave. Institutions?

Asian quotas?</br>
Undischargable student debt?</br>
Activist studies?</br>
https://bochcenter.org/samharris
|timestamp=5:56 PM · Feb 26, 2019
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|timestamp=5:56 PM · Feb 26, 2019
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|content=Things important to me in a true progressive agenda:

Free Speech</br>
Normalization of Intersex</br>
Median Family Formation/Security</br>
Economic Recognition of Kin Work</br>
Neuro Diversity/Inclusion in Schools</br>
Ending Labor Subsidy for Employers</br>
Ending Race Based Incarceration</br>
Stakeholder Value
|timestamp=6:49 PM · Mar 14, 2019
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|content=No. 🛑.

Gay Marriage & rights. Workplace safety. Breaking Appalachian slavery of the coal Barons. Interracial marriage. Civil rights issues. Free speech movement. Cannabis acceptance. Vietnam War protests. Etc...

The history of the Left has no shortage of high points @prageru.
|timestamp=5:40 PM · Mar 27, 2019
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|content=Where is any real payoff coming from taking social justice and making it bigoted, anti-science, anti-free Speech, radically relativistic, non constructive, blood thirsty, authoritarian, intolerant and utopian?

Where does the benefit of the ‘upgrade’ to cultlike behavior reside?
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|content=Assume I already get that some gender fluidity is highly conserved and that some of gender is socially constructed. Assume I got that a million years ago. What is the function of pretending that all gender and sex in a k-selected species is abiological and socially constructed?
|timestamp=7:33 PM · Apr 28, 2019
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|timestamp=7:38 PM · Apr 28, 2019
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|content=P.S. In honor of FB's zero tolerance, I joined a pro-violence hate group on FaceBook.  It has an ideology of supporting violence by Kurdish Women against ISIS, its hated target. Come join me and dare FaceBook to shut us down. We are called "Kurdish Freedom Fighters Against ISIS" https://t.co/5cHOZ0NzhV
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|content=When we ban people from spreading conspiracy theories we can no longer discuss conspiracies.

In 2017, I spread a conspiracy story.

Q: Should I be deplatformed for alleging that the US has a proven ability to destroy lawful US citizens by planting fake news in mainstream media? 
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|content=1/ US Deep-State use of "Fake News" in Main Stream Media to Destroy Inconvenient US Citizens: A tweetstorm in honor of Black America &amp; MLK. https://x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/27071821434064897
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|timestamp=7:08 AM · May 03, 2019
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|content=Think about this: the US has had a proven history of conspiring repeatedly against its own citizens and destroying lives. Our check against that tyranny is FREE SPEECH/PRESS including the freedom to discuss & test wild hypotheses that begin as...wait for it...conspiracy theories.
|timestamp=7:08 AM · May 03, 2019
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|content=Right now, EVERY major platform (@Google, @Apple, @facebook &amp; @Twitter) both spreads and profits from hate, violence, misinformation and offensive speech. I will defend them in the same terms I defend all those they deplatformed pretending that they have a zero tolerance policy.
|timestamp=7:08 AM · May 3, 2019
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|content=Furthermore I will again spread my own researched conspiracy theory: the H-1b &amp; the Immigration Act of 1990 were created from a conspiracy inside the @theNASciences &amp; @nsf complex to target and betray our own STEM professionals on behalf of STEM employers: https://www.ineteconomics.org/uploads/papers/Weinstein-GUI_NSF_SG_Complete_INET.pdf
|timestamp=7:08 AM · May 3, 2019
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|content=Ending conspiracy theories means ending investigative journalism: no My Lai. It means banning Howard Zinn. Not discussing the McCollum memo. Not talking about the Dulles brothers / Kermit Roosevelt. Forgetting the untreated syphilis victims of Tuskegee.

Me to FB: Drop dead.
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|timestamp=7:08 AM · May 3, 2019
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|timestamp=7:17 AM · May 3, 2019
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|content=To be clear: I'm not a free speech absolutist. Nor is the US absolutist. Companies are not the govt...etc..

What I oppose here is *simple* statements from Tech Utopians about how they are against *all* Hate, Violence &amp; Misinformation while *selectively* enforcing &amp; profiteering.
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|content=As Goldwater (should have) said: Extremism in defense of liberty is no friend of liberty. I know no other country where irresponsible speech is as protected as in the US. Grownups know that every freedom has limits. @michaelbd @BrianLehrer @JonahNRO @nytdavidbrooks @RubinReport
|timestamp=7:51 AM · May 3, 2019
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|timestamp=7:56 AM · May 3, 2019
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|content=I am not a free speech absolutist.

I also introduced the IDW term. Get it right.
|timestamp=3:49 PM · May 08, 2019
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|content=Well this is cool. @CIGS_INET is starting off a YouTube channel with a bang: @SamHarrisOrg interviews @NAChristakis on the evolutionary pressure on free speech after the digital revolution. Subscribe on YT to get them to continue making more great content!
https://youtu.be/2oNLoPAf1hg
|timestamp=12:35 AM · Jul 02, 2019
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|content=Can you also direct me to your sources of fact? It doesn’t sound like you became familiar with my stance on free speech in the course of writing your book unfortunately. You are beginning by making incorrect assumptions and inferences it would seem.
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|content=No, I’m saying that the IDW, having declared themselves fearless free speech warriors, are actively involved in policing the limits of debate.
|timestamp=2:20 PM · Sep 20, 2019
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|content=So I’m not welcome in front of your audience on your upcoming dates to discuss this or show some solidarity and any coming together? 
|timestamp=2:32 PM · Sep 20, 2019
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|timestamp=2:39 PM · Sep 20, 2019
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|content=And it would be an honor to shake yours. Thanks for standing up for the voiceless during the dark times. Even if we disagree.
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|content=[My audience isn’t exactly clamoring for me to interview Billy Bragg. It was supposed to be a reciprocal show of solidarity in the face of four more years of Trump on the horizon if we don’t come together. You‘re not wrong whoever you are. Nothing to do w/ “gladiatorial combat”.]
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|content=[And thank you for trying @BluesClown. After hearing about being a “free speech warrior” (false), trying for gladiatorial confrontation (false) and having heard that I’m an “investment banker” (false), the  public mischaracterization feels infinite. He can always find me in DM.]
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|content=Stop whispering Eric, we can all hear you. If the ‘challenge’ of debating me on your podcast is withdrawn, then maybe you should change the name of your club to the Intentionally Dark Web, and stop getting upset when people say you won’t debate them.
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|content=Cut it out. I wasn’t looking to debate you on your stage. Just play two songs that came out of two adjacent counties in Appalachian Kentucky we lost to Trump in 2016 in solidarity w workers & boost your book tour on a podcast after your show. Then you said “no thank you”.  So Ok!
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|content=It was about solidarity w decent people getting screwed over by both political parties & the Left not eating itself, but actually doing something to come together. But you weren’t interested and I accepted that. Okay. Move on. But Pete Seeger would have shaken my hand. As he did.
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|content=I’m happy to shake your hand. I just don’t understand why you’ve withdrawn your initial invite to debate the issue on your podcast? Was it conditional?
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|content=Yes and no. I wasn’t looking to debate you. You wanted that. I’m not a free speech warrior. You said that, not me. I’m not an investment banker. I heard you think I am. 

That sounded fishy. But you have been a person of integrity for a long time. 1/2.
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|content=Music to me is like breaking bread. I won’t have a man to my house who won’t have me to his. I wouldn’t invite a man playing the Saul Alinksy ridicule game. My audience isn’t going to like the Internationale. But I would have stood up for you. DM if you like for a call. Peace 2/2
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|content=I will be honest in saying that I don’t see a way to solve this problem within the simplistic “good ideas beat bad ideas” view held by various of my friends.
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|content=“Free” has multiple meanings. The strategy of using one’s own free speech for the simple pleasure of driving the costs of free speech of others (here by a claimed order of magnitude in security costs) is a very serious parasitizing of the simplistic free speech position.

Damn.
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|content=It appears that my event with @MaximeBernier on September 29th has been cancelled due to threats from Antifa and this insane piece in the local paper. The school is now demanding 10 times the original security costs and could demand more before showtime: https://www.thespec.com/opinion/contributors/mohawk-college-should-have-declined-to-rent-space-to-maxime-bernier/article_5d148f52-de95-5d2d-b117-33d100679574.html
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|content=There‘s a sizable number of white supremacists who latch onto legitimate '''free speech''', meritocracy, islamofascism & immigration issues like free-riding remoras. If these are issues you discuss you *must* piss these folks off regularly as if rubbing against a reef to dislodge them.
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