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<p><em>00:56:51</em><br>Now, do I know this to be true? Absolutely not. Am I infallible? Far from it. I wouldn’t have shared with you that I was wrong about Bernie Madoff, in fact, if all of these conspiracy theories turned out to be exactly true. Some of them still remain to be proven. But what I’ve tried to do is to talk to you about the idea that I don’t think the story is being fully explored. I’m extremely dismayed that over a very brief period of time, we went from suggesting that Jeffrey Epstein was allegedly dead by his own hand, to believing the medical examiner’s report as if this was conclusive. In fact, the charge that he might’ve been murdered, with an understanding of the powers that be [which] controlled the correctional facility in which he was housed, <em>includes</em> the charge that the medical examiner’s report would likely have been doctored. That’s not an additional charge; you wouldn’t murder somebody if the report would conclusively show murder, unless you actually knew that you had enough control over the system to control it all. Furthermore, there has to be a facility that keeps local law enforcement, local medical officers from stumbling over something of high value. You couldn’t responsibly run the intelligence community, which has to be able to carry out covert operations, operations that are disturbing, operations that are effective, without constantly fearing that low-level law enforcement and low-level medical examiners could blow the whole thing sky high. </p>
<p><em>00:56:51</em><br>Now, do I know this to be true? Absolutely not. Am I infallible? Far from it. I wouldn’t have shared with you that I was wrong about Bernie Madoff, in fact, if all of these conspiracy theories turned out to be exactly true. Some of them still remain to be proven. But what I’ve tried to do is to talk to you about the idea that I don’t think the story is being fully explored. I’m extremely dismayed that over a very brief period of time, we went from suggesting that Jeffrey Epstein was allegedly dead by his own hand, to believing the medical examiner’s report as if this was conclusive. In fact, the charge that he might’ve been murdered, with an understanding of the powers that be [which] controlled the correctional facility in which he was housed, <em>includes</em> the charge that the medical examiner’s report would likely have been doctored. That’s not an additional charge; you wouldn’t murder somebody if the report would conclusively show murder, unless you actually knew that you had enough control over the system to control it all. Furthermore, there has to be a facility that keeps local law enforcement, local medical officers, from stumbling over something of high value. You couldn’t responsibly run the intelligence community, which has to be able to carry out covert operations-operations that are disturbing, operations that are effective-without constantly fearing that low-level law enforcement and low-level medical examiners could blow the whole thing sky high. </p>
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<p><em>00:58:51</em><br>It is time to return to investigative journalism we can trust. It is time to return to committees of the House and Senate that have the power to investigate these things, and it is long past due that the intelligence services be revisited. If they, in fact, have very little to hide, then this shouldn’t really be a big problem. But at the moment, the American people have lost full confidence in our ability to get to the bottom of truths, as to whether foreign countries are meddling in our national elections, as to whether foreign countries are using their ability to send graduate students into the STEM pipeline to spy on us, as to whether foreign countries are using our tech platforms in order to help them with their military advantage over the United States. </p>
<p><em>00:58:51</em><br>It is time to return to investigative journalism we can trust. It is time to return to committees of the House and Senate that have the power to investigate these things; and it is long past due that the intelligence services be revisited. If they, in fact, have very little to hide, then this shouldn’t really be a big problem. But at the moment, the American people have lost full confidence in our ability to get to the bottom of truths: as to whether foreign countries are meddling in our national elections; as to whether foreign countries are using their ability to send graduate students into the STEM pipeline to spy on us; as to whether foreign countries are using our tech platforms in order to help them with their military advantage over the United States. </p>
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<p><em>00:59:36</em><br>Now, I really don’t want to come back to the Jeffrey Epstein story, so what I’m saying to you is, it’s quite possible that Jeffrey Epstein is simply dead by his own hand, that he was a pervy billionaire or near billionaire who had an interest in science, and also, an interest in young women that ranged from women of perhaps age 23 down either to 18, 15, 12, what have you; maybe the official story is true. </p>
<p><em>00:59:36</em><br>Now, I really don’t want to come back to the Jeffrey Epstein story, so what I’m saying to you is: “It’s quite possible that Jeffrey Epstein is simply dead by his own hand, that he was a pervy billionaire or near-billionaire who had an interest in science, and also an interest in young women that ranged from [the age] of perhaps 23 down either to 18, 15, 12, what have you-maybe the official story is true.” </p>
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<p><em>01:00:08</em><br>All I’m trying to suggest is that for some reason, I picked this one person to tell a 15-year story about that I believed he was an intelligence construct of probably another country operating in the center of the United States elite, and I believe that that is an additional piece of information because there’s no one else that I’ve been telling the story about. I’ve never met another person like this. This is a completely suis generis exception to my general understanding of the world, and I think if I am correct that there was something very much amiss, that it was obviously amiss, obvious to anybody who wished to see it, just as the world clearly closed their eyes to Jeffrey Epstein’s problems when it was found that he was asking for massages from underage girls in Florida, somebody was turning a blind eye towards the story almost certainly, because it was too salacious not to be interesting. It’s the kind of a story that would move newspapers, it would sell advertising spots. It’s far too juicy for people to take this little of an interest in. </p>
<p><em>01:00:08</em><br>All I’m trying to suggest is that for some reason, I picked this one person to tell a 15-year story about: that I believed he was an intelligence construct of probably another country operating in the center of the United States elite, and [that] I believe [this to be] an additional piece of information, because there’s no one else that I’ve been telling the story about. I’ve never met another person like this;  this is a completely <em>suis generis</em> exception to my general understanding of the world; and I think if I am correct that there was something very much amiss, that it was obviously amiss-obvious to anybody who wished to see it-just as the world clearly closed their eyes to Jeffrey Epstein’s problems when it was found that he was asking for massages from underage girls in Florida. Somebody was turning a blind eye towards the story almost certainly, because it was too salacious not to be interesting. It’s the kind of a story that would move newspapers, it would sell advertising spots; it’s far too juicy for people to take this little of an interest in. </p>
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<p><em>01:01:16</em><br>And I want to say one last thing about this. Jeffrey Epstein was enmeshed with a guy named John Brockman, who was a guy who in some sense gave me my first break on a larger stage. It is commonly believed at the moment by certain members of the media that John Brockman was complicit in the underage behavior, underage interest that Jeff Epstein showed in young girls. The one thing I can add is, is that I met John Brockman and his wife, Katinka Mattson, at Stuart Brand’s Interval Bar sometime in the last, I don’t know, one to three years. And when John and I sat down, I can tell you with certainty that John warned me that he’d had an interaction with Jeffrey that he had found very disturbing, and that John had been forced to walk out of his house, realizing that Jeffrey Epstein had had a problem. And John has not come forward, and I don’t know that there’s anybody else in a position to tell this story, but I can say with some certainty that John was not happy about this, and that if John was, in fact, a tolerant of a Hugh Hefner style person, the person I met had no reason to say this to me, was certainly not okay with Jeffrey Epstein, [and] was in fact warning me away from him, and I had no interest in seeing Jeffrey at that point. </p>
<p><em>01:01:16</em><br>And I want to say one last thing about this. Jeffrey Epstein was enmeshed with a guy named John Brockman, who was a guy who in some sense gave me my first break on a larger stage. It is commonly believed at the moment by certain members of the media that John Brockman was complicit in the underage behavior, underage interest, that Jeff Epstein showed in young girls. The one thing I can add is, that I met John Brockman and his wife, Katinka Mattson, at Stuart Brand’s Interval Bar sometime in the last-I don’t know, one-to-three years. And when John and I sat down, I can tell you with certainty that John warned me that he’d had an interaction with Jeffrey that he had found very disturbing, and that John had been forced to walk out of his house, realizing that Jeffrey Epstein had had a problem. And John has not come forward, and I don’t know that there’s anybody else in a position to tell this story, but I can say with some certainty that John was not happy about this, and that if John was, in fact, tolerant of a Hugh Hefner style person, the person I met had no reason to say this to me, [and] was certainly not okay with Jeffrey Epstein-was in fact warning me away from him-and I had no interest in seeing Jeffrey at that point. </p>
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<p><em>01:02:44</em><br>So, I do wish to say that I think that the conspiracy theorizing that I’m seeing is of a lower quality and a lower level. Of course, if you want, I could find out that the entire Edge network is somehow at risk and implicated, but I can say as somebody on the very periphery—I wrote no books for John, I didn’t go to the billionaires’ dinners, I never went to this island and never flew in the plane—I met him once and I had a phone call with him afterwards. I can tell you that I don’t personally believe that John Brockman was caught up in this at the level that is now being alleged by certain members of the press, who I feel, are perhaps not as responsible as they might be. </p>
<p><em>01:02:44</em><br>So, I do wish to say that I think that the conspiracy theorizing that I’m seeing is of a lower quality and a lower level. Of course, I could find out that the entire Edge network is somehow at risk and implicated, but I can say as somebody on the very periphery—I wrote no books for John, I didn’t go to the billionaires’ dinners, I never went to this island, I never flew on the plane; I met him once, and I had a phone call with him afterwards. I can tell you that I don’t personally believe that John Brockman was caught up in this at the level that is now being alleged by certain members of the press, who I think are perhaps not as [being as] responsible as they might be. </p>
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<p><em>01:03:27</em><br>Anyway, that’s more or less what I have to say on the subject, and with this, I intend to, to the extent possible exit the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy business. </p>
<p><em>01:03:27</em><br>Anyway, that’s more or less what I have to say on the subject, and with this, I intend, to the extent possible, exit the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy business. </p>
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